Plague Dogs

Kino of the highest order. I didn't expect the greatest animated film of all time to be of western origin rather than anime but yet here it is.

Why does this film get no love on Cinemaphile?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For shame Cinemaphile

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There was an island

    You can't tell me there wasn't

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon...

      it's there in the credits

      I want to believe

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's doggie heaven.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Objective truth.

      anon...

      Silence.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was island in the book where snitter finds his old owneris still alive after the writer's agent or publisher told him not to make it too much of downer. This ending is what he actually wanted to happen.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        iirc "the island" turns out to be a boat that rescues the dogs

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Maker of Watership Down
    I havent seen this and it sounds traumatising but kino

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Plague dogs is way better than Watership Down

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it isn't. Watership Down has a better story and a better soundtrack

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you're painfully wrong

          watership down has too many supernatural aspects and the whole military elements of the rabbit society are a bit silly. it feels more like a fable than xenofiction
          the characters in plague dogs are better(probably since there's less of them there's more room to flesh them out and have time to get attached to them) and having the animal scenes intercut by the human drama at the facility adds a whole nother layer to the film

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >has too many supernatural aspects
            Not a bad thing at all, and literally necessary if you’re giving animals complex language and interior monologues.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Watership Down has a better story and a better soundtrack
          LOL

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          watership down had more going on thematically, apparently richard adams put a lot of motifs from his religious life in the book. it’s not simply about cruelty but finding a place of the world and a way to view it. plague dogs is a lot more shallow, it’s just about misery

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s LOTR compared to GOT. Some catholic chad writes a symbolically rich work and the most base aesthetic elements are lifted to produce edgy slop.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You do know they are by the same author right?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean specifically the animated adaptions. Plague dogs was 100%, as a film, trying to recreate watership down and didn’t understand why it worked

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think they should be watched back to back on a rainy sunday.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just started it about 2 minutes in and already 🙁

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon be sure you're watching the extended (103 minute) cut not the censored (86 minute) one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is the 103 cut

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gud boi

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ouch. He's okay though, right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's an extended cut?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yurop got the "extended" cut by default, it was edited down for amurricans. could be that you already watched the extended version

          the bluray has both version I believe

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shit I don't remember this shot. I must have watched the censored version

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nooo you can't test on animals nooo
    Frick you all morons. Nobody should care about random animals getting tested or tortured. I certainly don't give a shit. I do love my dog tho, since it is MINE.
    Nowhere near in top 10 animation

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      woah…

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nooo you can't test on animals nooo
      that's not the point of the film. the author himself as said it's not necessarily an anti animal research story

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the theme and I don't care past that cringe setup

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Humans bad animals good le film
          No thanks.

          It's kind of sad how brainlets can't grasp anything beyond surface level interpretations

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go cry like a b***h you are over dogs lmao

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This and princess mononoke gays are the worst. man the frick up NOBODY cares about your love towards lelnimals or nature.

              Go get fricked baby boys

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go frick a dog

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Shitskin

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This and princess mononoke gays are the worst. man the frick up NOBODY cares about your love towards lelnimals or nature.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Brown hand typed this. White people and japs are the only races that have brains developed enough to care about animals.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron hands typed this. look at the production of milo and otis. japanese people tortured kittens on the set of that film and plenty of animals died. stop trying to larp bugmen into being white - you’re talking about a country that serves LIVE octopus as a delicacy, imagine eating alive something with the intelligence of a toddler. japanese people will never be white

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I do love my dog tho, since it is MINE
      Well, I love mine and because it's MINE too
      But I don't know if a dog is yours or not
      You can't see past 1 feet of your nose
      Your scope for empathy should be bigger, and aim for everyone scope to be the same, so everyone is taking care off passively
      Literally heard inmmunity but for empathy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      brainlet

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    arcane already BTFO'd every anime there is

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Humans bad animals good le film
    No thanks.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why does this film get no love on Cinemaphile?
    Cause i cant fricking deal with it

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    recommend me more animated arthouse kino

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when the wind blows

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just watch Akira and be done with it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stuff from
      >Quay Brothers
      >Jan Švankmajer
      >Norman McLaren

    • 4 weeks ago
      Trooth Bombz "The Great Last" from /asp/

      Coonskin

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Illusionist 2010. Sylvain Chomet's work in general.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fantastic planet

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't feel no pain no more
    I don't feel no pain no more
    I've left this cruel world behind
    And I've found my peace of mind
    I don't feel no pain no more

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So...Tell me more about this "island"
    >laugh track

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >muh religious metaphors
    lmao the absolute state of christian larpers

    plague dogs is so beyond watership down it's not even funny. watership down was just some stories he would tell his children on long trips

    watership down is not lotr, it's the hobbit. the "sequel" overshadows the messy original

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >passive aggressive non reply
      they’re both books written by the same christian dude. watership down is a better book though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >one is all about finding a people, experiencing the different societal approaches to life and spiritual outlooks on it, being a stranger in a dangerous world and eventually finding yourself, a philosophy and founding a legacy and a family that is secure when you die
      >one is about… dogs being sad
      The state of millennial atheist redditors

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >His Christian faith influenced everything he wrote; he was a man who once said he didn’t imagine his characters questioning their values—he thought conflict should come from outside a character
      >In one interview that year, Adams talked about “those black chaps, who are basically very nice people, of course, but who do not regard the family as a basic social unit and so lead up to all kinds of social evils, economic, as well as moral, like unrecognised incest”.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >finds empathy for dogs and rabbits but can’t find it for Black folk
        uhhh based alert

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stop fricking trying to ruin authors I like. I don’t want to know about racist/ religious crap, it’s nothing to do with the books.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate animal films because they are always a tear jerker. it's so easy to make someone sad by having an animal suffer/die on screen. there's no craft to it.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Was he the MVP?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't stand his stupid accent

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who watched both relatively recently(as well as The Secret of NIMH), Watership Down lost me a bit as soon as the rabbit started having prophetic visions. It's such a shitty plot device.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Watership Down is better.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Watership Down is better if you're a child.

      Forgot to finish my sentence

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This film was needlessly cruel, to a greater extent than Watership Down. I think people of this generation were often fricked up with undiagnosed PTSD from WW2 and it's reflected in their art, similar to the earlier Thomas the Tank Engines.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This film was needlessly cruel
      not really, it all felt very appropriate

      would have been wrong if they had depicted life in the wilderness as this great paradise that's only ruined by le bad humans, which was not the case at all

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >blocks your path

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    largely stop-motion but also check out james and the giant peach if you're into depression core. also again, when the wind blows. it's about nuclear war and senior citizens.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh frick, I know we're hating on animes but for check out pom poko. has little bits of watership down in it and is also focused on a bunch of animals, but I don't want to overexplain it. pom poko, good movie.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not a good movie. it just has a few nice scenes

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        meh, I like. for me it's about the overall impact. but it's one of those you should watch too often.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      now THAT is a humans are le bad film

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kinda, but don't think it's as simple as that. is more like a metaphore for the human experience. if anything I'd say it's critical about modern society and progress, but also makes point of life going on. it's sentimental for the past.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the way the tanuki make that final illusion to show humans how much better japan used to be felt too on the nose, not mention right at the end a tanuki turns to the camera and directly addresses the audience a moral speech

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            good point.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only on rewatch did I notice how them going into the sea echoes rowf's swimming experiments at the start, at first he hesitates going into the water but its thanks to his training that he manages to hold on much better than snitter

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking hell this dog is a menace. Killed his master and then killed then nice man trying to help him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but Cinemaphile told me this movie is just about humans being le bad!

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I like something that's semi-obscure
    do you want a cookie, OP?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it "doesn't get love" because you're all post election transplants who have literally no idea what the trajectory of Cinemaphile has been like. we've already had Plague Dogs threads to death newbie

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just finished it. It was aight. Ending bit anticlimactic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ending bit anticlimactic
      what were you hoping for?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Total human extermination via the plague

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't watch it.
    One thing I can't stand is animals suffering.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not that bad anon. has its sad moments but it's a fun bittersweet adventure. it's not misery porn

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it took me a couple watches to fully understand what was going on with the lab. first time it just felt like people talking not really understand who's who and what's going on there

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      explain

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