This shit needs to die. If you have shoulders this big, you're roiding. They're not physically possible because delts are the hardest muscle group to get to grow. Even if you're fricking arboreal like a chimp you don't get shoulders that large, and I fricking guarantee you Chris Hemsworth doesn't live in a tree.
Bogged efron is so horrifying because it's very subtle but you can tell something is very not right.
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>it’s very subtle
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>subtle
Which specific feature has been bogged and in what way?
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The lips struck me immediately. Looks swollen being normal expectations.
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Yeah, but they're not like bogged swollen. Compare them to his original lips and there doesn't actually seem to be that great a difference, but yes, the lips do seem the most uncanny.
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I wasn't the one who said bogged, but anyone can see that the left to right transformation is not possible under normal circumstances.
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His lower face is glaringly bogged, but even his eyes show hints of it.
Jaw gets wider as you age for men. You also you have jaw muscles so when you work out a lot and take roids you have to eat a lot and it will grow those muscles too
Cavill might actually be natty, that's his peak form, probably with a giga pump and perfect Hollywood lightning, outside of it he does not look crazy, he's really fluffy, but he has a great frame which makes him look bigger than he actually is
Cavill is one of the very few I'm willing to believe because his progression has been consistent and isn't as ridiculous as one would think. Still would be easier for him to do it on roids so the assumption remains that he actually does what's necessary for his job, but he's the one who actually might be natural.
lol i got similar traps and delts after half a year of lifting. idk if its genetics or not but either way thats definitely natty and not out of the norm/impressive
>natty israelite
Won't work, you gaslighting trenisraelite. This is the physique of a normal, healthy man and your HRT troony actors like Hemsworth look like body dysmorphic freaks in comparison.
ellen page is on test and also steroids
btw posting topless women on Cinemaphile is not allowed
just because they call themelves a man doesn't make it so
Looks ridiculous with those baby arms. I'm going to guess it's one of those liposuctions to make fake abs. Literally makes no sense that only her abs look worked, while having those twig arms and legs.
before: >i need to make sure i lower the camera so that i don't look 5'2"
during: >damn i look like such a masculine bro pretending to walk like dad
after: >frick i still look like a moronic midget
Why, oh why, would you want to turn into a man? Like legit actual mental moronation? You can easily be a "manly" woman and not have a bunch of weird surgeries and still have a fine life. It's so bizarre that people put so much value on their identity...
He actually looks good there. The problem with him is he is trying to act though but he's 5 foot. If he was a bio male he would be mocked but he gets a pass because he's a t male
>report dicky pic >macbook loses connection to router >router goes offline
you fricking hacker buttholes. there are things worth more than underage pussy
How the frick do I make my biceps grow faster? My biceps progress/hypertrophy is considerably slower than the rest of my body.
What are your biceps routines?
Same as any other part of your body, train them harder and more often. If you aren't growing them at all, check your form on curls: place your hands on the "outside" edge of the bar handle, so you have to supinate your arm slightly all the time. Supination is part of the biceps' function. Learning to do that helped me the most. |||----mm||| <--- Like this for your right hand. Also don't bend your wrist "up" while curling, you can even let it hang down, wrist flexion brings the forearm more to a curl, which lessen the work of the bicep.
After that little fix, just do more reps per week/month. Forget your "program" for a while and just work out your biceps if they feel rested enough. And don't count your reps, as in don't just stop at 12 if you don't actually feel like you've done enough. Do sets to failure. You can try varying the angle of curls too, as in bring your arms more in or out.
not same person but i normally do a 4 day split, so chest/abs, shoulders/arms, legs/abs, back of 4x8 with heavy weight, and then after i rotate to my next split, i switch to 4x20. next split back to 4x8. you're ready to increase weight when you can finish your final rep, move up in 2.5-5 lb increments. t. 220lbs 9% bodyfat 5'9" manlet
>bro train to failure with baby weight I swear you’ll get so big >no mention of progressive overload
This only works if you pin, post arms you absolute moron.
>Also don't bend your wrist "up" while curling, you can even let it hang down, wrist flexion brings the forearm more to a curl, which lessen the work of the bicep.
How the frick does that make sense, the biceps is still the muscle that's moving the bar. Also why the frick would you not want your wrists to get a workout too?
Are gym coaches generally good?
Personal training session are pricey but I think I need them at the beginning to setup my technique and stuff.
Is there a chance of bumping into someone who will lead me down the wrong path?
Like that anon said read the entire sticky on Cinemaphile and all the links, after that close Cinemaphile forever
Keep the links in the sticky open on your laptop or your phone and read them regularly
They'll give you starter programs etc but do what you like and as long as the pain doesn't feel wrong, keep at it... If something feels wrong or off, make sure you're doing the exercise correctly through googling it and then do minor adjustments till it feels right... If it doesn't feel right at all, ask some bigger guy for advice "because i never did this exercise before" and they'll generally love to show you how so they can show off so it's a win win
That's all there is to it, the hardest part of the gym is going there
At least at the 24 hour I was going to be a trainer for, they were peddling a lot of bullshit to keep you in personal training instead of things that are both easier and more effective. You're better off without them.
It's good to have a coach in the sense that you can get advice from. Paying for one is not worth it though. My beginner advice would be to focus on form, and pay attention to whether or not the exercise is isolating the muscle(s) they are suppose to. I would hazard a guess that 90% of beginners try to go heavier than they should and just try to complete reps on a program. However, completing a rep while having bad form is counterproductive and can result in injury. Good luck.
I think the most irritating thing about ubiquitous steroid usage is not that roided actors and tiktok zoomers are out there mogging normal people, it's that normal people who don't lift are seemingly completely incapable of recognising who is and is not using gear.
I've come to believe that the only way a person can really, truly, appreciate when a person is on the tech or not is by lifting themselves and appreciating for themselves what is and is not possible. You'd have to take someone, put them on a solid diet of +200-400 calories above their TDEE, proper macros / gs of protein etc then have them do heavy compounds for at least a year, well past the noob gains, and have them assess where they're at after all that.
Only then would they understand that they're nowhere near looking like The Rock or Hugh Jackman or fricking ANY roided movie-star. Without actually having lifted, people instantly fall into the "some people just have great genetics" copium and other garbage.
Everyone has their hobbies you fat frick. You enjoy jerking it to super hero movies targeted for children and he enjoys going to the gym and lifting weights. You touch grass.
>You'd have to take someone, put them on a solid diet of +200-400 calories above their TDEE, proper macros / gs of protein etc then have them do heavy compounds for at least a year, well past the noob gains, and have them assess where they're at after all that.
Look at this fricking nerd incel talk. Normal people don't talk about this shit, they just go out there and have a normal social life without having to obsess over this shit. Have sex.
not him
Vascularity (veins popping)
Rapidity of transformation (was he skinny in a movie filmed a year ago?)
Certain body parts overpowering (typically traps due to high concentration of androgen receptors or whatever)
Unrealistic muscle mass for the actor's height (if he's 6'5, he's not getting huge natty)
Exceptionally lean despite muscle mass (generally natty = hard to be both big and lean)
General rules of thumb to look for
Believe it or not I don't think this is roids. This actor has been super fit for years, he probably just takes health and fitness very seriously and takes good care of his diet and workout routine.
It's a negative feedback loop. The judges always favored bigger guys because if two dudes are equally shredded the one with an extra 20 pounds of muscle and bigger arms and bigger legs and lats and everything else will just look more impressive. And back in the day it wasn't crazy to say someone like Arnold had a better physique than, say Frank Zane because even if Zane had perfect symmetry Arnold was pretty well-balanced, too and was just so much bigger he mogged Zane when they were posing side-by side.
So the next guys just got progressively bigger and bigger because that was how you got the edge. And as the roids and other drugs got better guys just got even bigger. And then it became a selection bias thing because you had to be willing to turn yourself into a freak just to have a chance, and the sport became an increasingly insular community where anybody who had a more traditional physique couldn't even be a pro anymore. And since the community was noting but superfreaks now they became increasingly more tolerant of the rampant drug use and tis side effects because when everyone has a distended abdomen it's not even a big deal.
So you reach the nadir things are at now where the guys with the "best" body in the world look like some strain of mutant cattle who happen to be pregnant, because according to their fellow mutant cattle people this is ideal. The entire sport essentially has dysmorphia
The v-shaped torso is usually a dead giveaway. If they have a fricked up looking gut too that usually means they're juicing. And then anything that looks disproportionally large is usually a sign of roiding, like huge shoulders, huge traps, huge biceps, but little mass anywhere else.
I know they're all on roids but genetic differences are massive also, to the point that people can't handle the truth
a silverback is 3x the mass of a female gorilla and they both eat grass and leaves, it's not mindset and self-improvement sperging
>some people just have great genetics
Some people do have great genetics tho, just not on the scale and level that roided hollywood stars want you to believe.
Dare you rebuke that?
>anon doesn't believe in wide shoulders, a good mesomorph frame and optimal metabolism
Lol.
Lmao even.
Glad you outed yourself as one of those skinny wristlets that lurk Cinemaphile
If steroids are bad then why is every hollywood actor on them?
I don't care if I was offered 10 million dollars for a contract, nothing is worth fricking up your health
Why do professional athletes use pain medication when their knees hurt and power through?
Why do CEOs sleep 4 hours a day for 2 years straight under immense stress?
Why do models starve themselves everyday for their entire career?
Why do boxers all accept that theyre getting permanent braindamage from every single fight?
Why do UFC fighters risk irreperable joint damage?
Why do coal miners work in coal mines and expose themselves to black lung?
Noob lifter here, if my lifts are going up then that means I'm making progress right? It just feels like my muscles aren't getting any bigger but I am getting stronger
you should stop immediately, if your lifts are getting bigger but your arms arent that means another part of you is. specifically the brain, your mind is tricking your body because mind over matter if you dont stop your cranium will begin to expand.
id say lifts going up is the definition of progress, buddy. Just dont forget to deload (especially if you're doing a bunch of compound stuff). Also, it might be time for a bulk.
>have access to the best doctors, nutritionists, hormone replacement specialists, instructors >implying that NONE of them give him access to perfectly legal performance enhancing drugs that just happen to be banned in professional sports
>has fricked 10x more prime pussy than any other actor in this thread
You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but muscles mean literally nothing and Leo has the peak Chad bod.
>dresses like shit >body looks like shit >has fricked more primo pussy than anybody posted in the thread
incredibly, unfathomably, and unstoppably based
There are plenty of "safe" juice. There is just always a risk involved. But so is it with every glass of alcohol you take, every joint you smoke, every SSRI they prescribe, every aspirine you take. The risk is really low, but anything can be toxic for you.
>plenty
Which are? Like the shit on tv?
Yes, there's safe miracle muscle pills, just like there are safe "lose 50 lbs pills". None of them have a physical price to them.
That's why everyone you know is sleek and muscular.
There are new pills that literally are miracle fat burners. I think one was meant as a cholesterol drug and the other is just a straight fat killer. They're new you should check them out. Also, I don't think I need to tell you this but your answer isn't what I was looking for. I await with overexcited anticipation at your next reply.
There are plenty of "safe" juice. There is just always a risk involved. But so is it with every glass of alcohol you take, every joint you smoke, every SSRI they prescribe, every aspirine you take. The risk is really low, but anything can be toxic for you.
Yes, there's safe miracle muscle pills, just like there are safe "lose 50 lbs pills". None of them have a physical price to them.
That's why everyone you know is sleek and muscular.
Not everyone wants to be sleek and muscular that badly. Second, just because miracle drugs exist, doesn't mean it's going to be marketed to the masses. Nuclear power isn't used despite it's obvious effectiveness.
I've been lifting for only 2 months and am already seeing serious gains, bros. My muscles are very tight now, I'd say I'm about 20-30% stronger than I was 2 months ago. Lifting is great. Hope I can stay consistent and see what I look like by next summer.
you start
He did, Chris hemsworth is a natural
Have you ever seen his workout program? It's amazing. He works out underwater so it's harder.
Does he breathe through a little snorkle while working out?
No, he holds his breath during each set so his body adapts to oxygen debt by making his muscles bigger.
>holds his breath during each set
That sounds very moronic, also the buoyancy of water compensates for a lot of gravity's force
the fact that they can sell the idea that chris's thor is natty really is telling on normy stupidity
you wouldn't believe how fricking stupid the average person is... and 50% of people are even more moronic
reddit tier comment
t. never had to work with people
embarrassing
go back
based NEET
Normies are fricking moronic zombies. Everybody who eats thanks to their image, even the smallest fitness "influencer", is on roids.
Half of those influencers probably think their natty because they're taking oral sarms and not pinning test or whatever. Rip livers.
Can someone show me a collage of natties and roiders so I can compare? I can't really tell whats stupidly yoked and what isn't.
No way, and does he also claim to sleep only 4 hours a night like other natural lifters like the rock or arnold schwarzenegger?
Arnie has never claimed to be natural though
>arnold
>natty
I'm pretty sure he was sarcastic but I'm a moronic autist so dunno
Try lifting for a year. You will probably never see results like OPs pic
no shit
you need 2 years to get somewhat "big"
You have never lifted a single weight in your life.
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>laughing fricking my ass off
>He works out underwater so it's harder.
Legit made me kek.
Your stupidity is actually dangerous for your community. Seek help.
He 100% used roids for Thor 1.
impressive
Bait
>He works out underwater so it's harder.
*Mwah* that's-a good bait
This shit needs to die. If you have shoulders this big, you're roiding. They're not physically possible because delts are the hardest muscle group to get to grow. Even if you're fricking arboreal like a chimp you don't get shoulders that large, and I fricking guarantee you Chris Hemsworth doesn't live in a tree.
>look at those shoulders – must be roids
so much onions boy cope in this thread
Looks like photoshop.
what workout for facial muscles?
You answer the call
frick, no calls from the giga league yet
Bogged efron is so horrifying because it's very subtle but you can tell something is very not right.
>it’s very subtle
Which specific feature has been bogged and in what way?
The lips struck me immediately. Looks swollen being normal expectations.
Yeah, but they're not like bogged swollen. Compare them to his original lips and there doesn't actually seem to be that great a difference, but yes, the lips do seem the most uncanny.
I wasn't the one who said bogged, but anyone can see that the left to right transformation is not possible under normal circumstances.
His lower face is glaringly bogged, but even his eyes show hints of it.
Is that nikocado?
>subtle
>Imagine being Zac Efron, one of the most handsome man in earth.
Proceed to ruin your face with botox because cant face youre getting old, even if you are in your 30, who is a good age of men.
No man or woman is immune to the body dysmorphia crisis the West is in.
Imagine being Zac and spitting in Gods face after he blessed you with such good looks
I don't think that's possible.
Jaw gets wider as you age for men. You also you have jaw muscles so when you work out a lot and take roids you have to eat a lot and it will grow those muscles too
He also takes steroids.
eat clean
tren hard
anavar give up
This. Is he the only actor to keep the BASED Chest hair look? Most are homosexuals who wax it off
Cavill might actually be natty, that's his peak form, probably with a giga pump and perfect Hollywood lightning, outside of it he does not look crazy, he's really fluffy, but he has a great frame which makes him look bigger than he actually is
cavill has weird stunted little babby arms
he can probably do chest and arms workouts twice a day with that sort of insane leverage
Post physique
>noooooo you can't critique babbywrist unless you're also gigachad
i know that feel bro
t. also a wristlet that doesn't even work out
>t. also a wristlet that doesn't even work out
Yeah that's what I figured. Peak crab bucket mentality.
im just shitposting bro i fully support all liftchads
Yeah I wasn't being ironic for the record (unlike OP probably)
Hi Derek
Cavill is one of the very few I'm willing to believe because his progression has been consistent and isn't as ridiculous as one would think. Still would be easier for him to do it on roids so the assumption remains that he actually does what's necessary for his job, but he's the one who actually might be natural.
>those delts traps and lat you can see from the front
not natty
t. shit genetics+moron who doesn't know what he's talking about
Shut the frick up, that's a normal shape for natty lifting
>Thinks you can't see delta, traps, and lats from the front without roids
lol i got similar traps and delts after half a year of lifting. idk if its genetics or not but either way thats definitely natty and not out of the norm/impressive
no you don't
you're a beginner who is delusional and blind
similar to how anorexic people see themselves as fat
>moving hands fast to prevent self mogging
How do you know if you have small hands? asking for a friend
Can you hold a basketball from the top (basketball facing the ground) in your palm with one hand? If not, your hands are small.
>only 8.5 inch finger span
it's over.
H-hayai!
Only capeshitter i trust to be natty
And for this reason Cavill's body is more impressive than Hemworths, roid bods look off and proportions dont look right
Easy for natty's to put on mass when they are manlets
Believable. His shoulders aren't gargantuan, but he is an actor so he probably does roid.
Peak form
He doesn't need steroids to cuck James Acaster
Zachary fell for the natty israelite
Better body than 99% of Cinemaphile, not just Cinemaphile.
>natty israelite
Won't work, you gaslighting trenisraelite. This is the physique of a normal, healthy man and your HRT troony actors like Hemsworth look like body dysmorphic freaks in comparison.
His real name is Zachary Levi Pugh, he isn't actually a israelite but he used his second name to pass as one.
Whoopi tactics
Zach-o Levi is /ourguy.
Haha sure buddy, zachary is also a israelite name.
Yeah, also David, Peter and John.
Pugh isn't a israeli last name.
That guy is 100% israelite. All this "Actually I'm welsh" bullshit is pure cope when everyone noticed.
Athletic is the patrician body type anyway
Pretty sure he's straight up Christian and posts Christian stuff occasionally too
I was going to say Elliot Page, but he's starting to look very ripped nowadays..
Elliot doesn't use steroids, she uses surgery.
ellen page is on test and also steroids
btw posting topless women on Cinemaphile is not allowed
just because they call themelves a man doesn't make it so
Why does he only work out abs tho
they are fake lol. same with her pecs.
just hit the gym for like a month.
JANNIES, THERE ARE FEMALE NIPPLES HERE
Looks ridiculous with those baby arms. I'm going to guess it's one of those liposuctions to make fake abs. Literally makes no sense that only her abs look worked, while having those twig arms and legs.
>her
chud
>baby arms
WHAT DID YOU SAY, MOTHERFRICKER?
I said baby arms.
lmao, my wife has bigger arms than this child
damn, 12 year old girls look like THAT??
>trying to pose mid-action in front of a brick wall
probably spent 40 minutes trying to get this shot
where's she walking from
From the wall she's hit.
Kekek
From behind the wall dumbass
Why couldn’t I save her bros?
What was in her mind when she decided to take this pic?
before:
>i need to make sure i lower the camera so that i don't look 5'2"
during:
>damn i look like such a masculine bro pretending to walk like dad
after:
>frick i still look like a moronic midget
he has the body of cloud from final fantasy, holy shit
>hit the wall
>turn around and you're a troony
Sad!
Damn she unironically mogs me
Why, oh why, would you want to turn into a man? Like legit actual mental moronation? You can easily be a "manly" woman and not have a bunch of weird surgeries and still have a fine life. It's so bizarre that people put so much value on their identity...
peer pressure from being in the LGBT community for 6 years
gdi somehow you can still tell that she is 5'1" by looking at this. how does she even cope
He actually looks good there. The problem with him is he is trying to act though but he's 5 foot. If he was a bio male he would be mocked but he gets a pass because he's a t male
Falmer vibes
yeah ripped by a scalpel
mewing goals tbh
>can literally get unlimited pharma grade testosterone scripts
>still not a single milligram of muscle
from tomboy to s.o.y.boy
E.T. looking motherfricker
>he
Stop calling mastectomy patients boys, it's sexist.
There ain't a god damned thing natural about that body.
>takes yid prescribed horse testosterone
>is natty
>this is her ("""his""") idea of what a male body should look like
lol
Elliot's using hormones alright
HRT technically snaps your natty card
>I was a fookin legend in gin alley
lol
lmao even
He has a normal build for an Australian male.
>Chloe Weights Moreplates
shes just fat.
You don't get those shoulders by getting fat.
Look at that weird speciment.
look at those wrists
Yeah, you cannot outtrain being a wristlet it hurts...
This. I feel your pain. No matter how much I train my forearms they’ll always look stringy.
What size is wristlet? Below 8.5 inches?
RIP
RIP
Is he doing 20kg dumbbell curls? With those arms?
Does he do sets of 60 or something wtf. I curl 18kg with arms half the size of his.
He does them with proper form
I can already imagine your uncontrolled swinging
Dude, 20 is plenty. Average gymbro should be curling 12s at most. It's not a deadlift where you just pile it on, curls are all about form
>20 is plenty
>doesne
why
I showed you my biceps, send bobs and vagene
Kumail's tren jaw at his peak form was hilarious
i hate this c**t so fricking much.
>fake jaw
Disqualified
HGH kicking in
bogged to no return. also he lost it directly after the movie came out
>report dicky pic
>macbook loses connection to router
>router goes offline
you fricking hacker buttholes. there are things worth more than underage pussy
like what
having a roof over your head
food
a good relationship to your parents
having a good job
Cringe. False dicky enjoyer detected. I bet you jerk it to oppai e-girl or something. kys
How the frick do I make my biceps grow faster? My biceps progress/hypertrophy is considerably slower than the rest of my body.
What are your biceps routines?
roids
Same as any other part of your body, train them harder and more often. If you aren't growing them at all, check your form on curls: place your hands on the "outside" edge of the bar handle, so you have to supinate your arm slightly all the time. Supination is part of the biceps' function. Learning to do that helped me the most. |||----mm||| <--- Like this for your right hand. Also don't bend your wrist "up" while curling, you can even let it hang down, wrist flexion brings the forearm more to a curl, which lessen the work of the bicep.
After that little fix, just do more reps per week/month. Forget your "program" for a while and just work out your biceps if they feel rested enough. And don't count your reps, as in don't just stop at 12 if you don't actually feel like you've done enough. Do sets to failure. You can try varying the angle of curls too, as in bring your arms more in or out.
How many sets do you rec? If you’re going to failure how do you know when to increase the weight?
not same person but i normally do a 4 day split, so chest/abs, shoulders/arms, legs/abs, back of 4x8 with heavy weight, and then after i rotate to my next split, i switch to 4x20. next split back to 4x8. you're ready to increase weight when you can finish your final rep, move up in 2.5-5 lb increments. t. 220lbs 9% bodyfat 5'9" manlet
Nice anon
>bro train to failure with baby weight I swear you’ll get so big
>no mention of progressive overload
This only works if you pin, post arms you absolute moron.
>Also don't bend your wrist "up" while curling, you can even let it hang down, wrist flexion brings the forearm more to a curl, which lessen the work of the bicep.
How the frick does that make sense, the biceps is still the muscle that's moving the bar. Also why the frick would you not want your wrists to get a workout too?
Are gym coaches generally good?
Personal training session are pricey but I think I need them at the beginning to setup my technique and stuff.
Is there a chance of bumping into someone who will lead me down the wrong path?
They’re generally an absolute disaster. The worst of the worst.
lmao, where do I find some live advice then?
Literally just read the sticky, you'll be fine.
Like that anon said read the entire sticky on Cinemaphile and all the links, after that close Cinemaphile forever
Keep the links in the sticky open on your laptop or your phone and read them regularly
They'll give you starter programs etc but do what you like and as long as the pain doesn't feel wrong, keep at it... If something feels wrong or off, make sure you're doing the exercise correctly through googling it and then do minor adjustments till it feels right... If it doesn't feel right at all, ask some bigger guy for advice "because i never did this exercise before" and they'll generally love to show you how so they can show off so it's a win win
That's all there is to it, the hardest part of the gym is going there
unironically just look up workouts and shit on youtube. Make sure you’re doing them correctly rather than just doing them heavily
At least at the 24 hour I was going to be a trainer for, they were peddling a lot of bullshit to keep you in personal training instead of things that are both easier and more effective. You're better off without them.
It's good to have a coach in the sense that you can get advice from. Paying for one is not worth it though. My beginner advice would be to focus on form, and pay attention to whether or not the exercise is isolating the muscle(s) they are suppose to. I would hazard a guess that 90% of beginners try to go heavier than they should and just try to complete reps on a program. However, completing a rep while having bad form is counterproductive and can result in injury. Good luck.
dumbest post on tv right now
Did Hugh Jackman?
100%
It was definitely a healthy cycle, though. He was cut, not gigaBlack person jacked.
Thor is pushing it and if he keeps it up he’s gonna get roidgut.
>It was definitely a healthy cycle
Maybe for the first X-Men.
Huge Jackedman isn't even a question
I’m 140lbs, can’t bench more than like 60lbs, I eat once a day.
I think the most irritating thing about ubiquitous steroid usage is not that roided actors and tiktok zoomers are out there mogging normal people, it's that normal people who don't lift are seemingly completely incapable of recognising who is and is not using gear.
I've come to believe that the only way a person can really, truly, appreciate when a person is on the tech or not is by lifting themselves and appreciating for themselves what is and is not possible. You'd have to take someone, put them on a solid diet of +200-400 calories above their TDEE, proper macros / gs of protein etc then have them do heavy compounds for at least a year, well past the noob gains, and have them assess where they're at after all that.
Only then would they understand that they're nowhere near looking like The Rock or Hugh Jackman or fricking ANY roided movie-star. Without actually having lifted, people instantly fall into the "some people just have great genetics" copium and other garbage.
99% of people don’t care about lifting, diets and all that dumb shit. Touch grass.
Everyone has their hobbies you fat frick. You enjoy jerking it to super hero movies targeted for children and he enjoys going to the gym and lifting weights. You touch grass.
I don’t enjoy anything and so do most people
You enjoy bringing other people down to your level of misery on the internet i assume, don't cut yourself short, you still have hobbies.
Bro u in apathy and you surround yourself with apathetic people
Go for therapy
>You'd have to take someone, put them on a solid diet of +200-400 calories above their TDEE, proper macros / gs of protein etc then have them do heavy compounds for at least a year, well past the noob gains, and have them assess where they're at after all that.
Look at this fricking nerd incel talk. Normal people don't talk about this shit, they just go out there and have a normal social life without having to obsess over this shit. Have sex.
And yet you are here too troon
Do you honestly not see the irony of you attacking anons here
what are the most obvious differences between roided and natty body?
Huge delts and traps
Is the northman natty?
Yes. There's a video from his trainer on YouTube.
not him
Vascularity (veins popping)
Rapidity of transformation (was he skinny in a movie filmed a year ago?)
Certain body parts overpowering (typically traps due to high concentration of androgen receptors or whatever)
Unrealistic muscle mass for the actor's height (if he's 6'5, he's not getting huge natty)
Exceptionally lean despite muscle mass (generally natty = hard to be both big and lean)
General rules of thumb to look for
Believe it or not I don't think this is roids. This actor has been super fit for years, he probably just takes health and fitness very seriously and takes good care of his diet and workout routine.
How long would you need to trait to get his physique?
3 years. The good thing is you won't ever really lose it in the sense if you stop training and start training again, you quickly go back to the form.
roid gut or large abs more specifically
Why did this become the standard for mr olympia and why does any judge even like it? Look how pregnant they are, 0 aesthetics.
It's awful isn't it?
When bodybuilding became about size and not about aesthetics
It's a negative feedback loop. The judges always favored bigger guys because if two dudes are equally shredded the one with an extra 20 pounds of muscle and bigger arms and bigger legs and lats and everything else will just look more impressive. And back in the day it wasn't crazy to say someone like Arnold had a better physique than, say Frank Zane because even if Zane had perfect symmetry Arnold was pretty well-balanced, too and was just so much bigger he mogged Zane when they were posing side-by side.
So the next guys just got progressively bigger and bigger because that was how you got the edge. And as the roids and other drugs got better guys just got even bigger. And then it became a selection bias thing because you had to be willing to turn yourself into a freak just to have a chance, and the sport became an increasingly insular community where anybody who had a more traditional physique couldn't even be a pro anymore. And since the community was noting but superfreaks now they became increasingly more tolerant of the rampant drug use and tis side effects because when everyone has a distended abdomen it's not even a big deal.
So you reach the nadir things are at now where the guys with the "best" body in the world look like some strain of mutant cattle who happen to be pregnant, because according to their fellow mutant cattle people this is ideal. The entire sport essentially has dysmorphia
It's just a race to their first MI at this point.
compare your pic to OP. This dude actually has normal proportions and looks more like an athlete than a bodybuilder
The v-shaped torso is usually a dead giveaway. If they have a fricked up looking gut too that usually means they're juicing. And then anything that looks disproportionally large is usually a sign of roiding, like huge shoulders, huge traps, huge biceps, but little mass anywhere else.
Big, shredded, natural.
You can pick only 2 out of 3.
>Big, shredded, natural.
whats the natty max for this?
1920 Olympic wrestlers.
There are only 3, moron
1913 wrestling champion in 75 kg weight category.
I know they're all on roids but genetic differences are massive also, to the point that people can't handle the truth
a silverback is 3x the mass of a female gorilla and they both eat grass and leaves, it's not mindset and self-improvement sperging
>tfw normies think i don't lift
it's over for nattycels...
Or.....you can just look at their shoulders. Big shoulders mean roids. Period.
Damn, hangman looked like an 80s stud
>some people just have great genetics
Some people do have great genetics tho, just not on the scale and level that roided hollywood stars want you to believe.
Dare you rebuke that?
Show me someone who you think has "great genetics" but who you also think is natty so everyone can see how much of a clown you are.
>anon doesn't believe in wide shoulders, a good mesomorph frame and optimal metabolism
Lol.
Lmao even.
Glad you outed yourself as one of those skinny wristlets that lurk Cinemaphile
As I said, feel free to post an example of someone who you think has "great genetics" but who you also think is natty.
>hemsworth
>natty
Why even have muscles this big, this isn't practical at this point
Why, so you can work the forges of the stars themselves of course.
All men should get on some type of exogenous hormone. Aging is a goddamn disaster for us.
If steroids are bad then why is every hollywood actor on them?
I don't care if I was offered 10 million dollars for a contract, nothing is worth fricking up your health
To get a desired physique in a small amount of time. Their cycles are ran by doctors.
>If steroids are bad
They aren't. Educate yourself
Derek thinks steroids are terrible moron
It doesn't matter what he thinks
>dates 5 women at once
They are terrible guys, be natty
bro just microdose roids. simple as.
>microdose
so what happens when you cycle-off, do you just deflate over a couple of months?
dont you turn into a fat golem
I would "relieve" her iykwim.
Why do professional athletes use pain medication when their knees hurt and power through?
Why do CEOs sleep 4 hours a day for 2 years straight under immense stress?
Why do models starve themselves everyday for their entire career?
Why do boxers all accept that theyre getting permanent braindamage from every single fight?
Why do UFC fighters risk irreperable joint damage?
Why do coal miners work in coal mines and expose themselves to black lung?
BECAUSE ITS THEIR JOB DUMMY
Millions of dollars are on the line, anyone would do it in that position.
I have orangutan arms. I can't get big arms.
Just do deadlifts
Noob lifter here, if my lifts are going up then that means I'm making progress right? It just feels like my muscles aren't getting any bigger but I am getting stronger
you should stop immediately, if your lifts are getting bigger but your arms arent that means another part of you is. specifically the brain, your mind is tricking your body because mind over matter if you dont stop your cranium will begin to expand.
id say lifts going up is the definition of progress, buddy. Just dont forget to deload (especially if you're doing a bunch of compound stuff). Also, it might be time for a bulk.
>have access to the best doctors, nutritionists, hormone replacement specialists, instructors
>implying that NONE of them give him access to perfectly legal performance enhancing drugs that just happen to be banned in professional sports
lel
dont care
unless they're roiding and pretending not to while trying to shill their shitty workout regimes
Most of it is CGI
>Brie believing her critics have or have ever had a girlfriend.
She's lost touch with reality.
This fake image is so perfectly curated to make me angry. High quality bait 10/10
Biel
Posting biel is unffair to women and actors who take steroids
was she taking roids?
No, but Ryan was
frankly speaking, posting biel is unfair to all human beings
Momoa never did sterons. Some actors are just genetically bless
Pic relative
why did he turn into Sam Hyde? do you not consider HGH steroids?
Damn momoa really let himself go lol
Damn, seems like HGH kicks in hard at 40
this is what being married to a part israeli black woman who cheats on you and takes your money does to a mf. The divorcepill wrecks most men
Honestly, divorce laws are proof that we live in a dystopia.
Not buying that shit for a second. Also, he's an ugly mutt.
are you following the thread?
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Natty
Tbh CR7 is genuinely predisposed for ottermode. But he's also a pro athlete...
This really isn't that impressive, he's just lean
The GOAT non roid actor.
>has fricked 10x more prime pussy than any other actor in this thread
You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but muscles mean literally nothing and Leo has the peak Chad bod.
>dresses like shit
>body looks like shit
>has fricked more primo pussy than anybody posted in the thread
incredibly, unfathomably, and unstoppably based
Was it steroids?
too lean
That's just low bodyfat and moderate musculature.
Why is it so hard to get a test script?
Juiced to the fricking gills
Cant believe nobody posted this guy yet
What makes you think he's on gear?
His squinty expression makes him look bad
It's the ultimate result of obsessing over not having prey eyes.
Wtf is Thad even building for? What's he been doing since BMS died aside from the Rooster Teeth movie?
He's the star of the new show Reacher.
Hate this guy. How the frick did an absolute charisma vacuum like this get so fricking much work in pedowood?
LOL omg I thought this was Sam Worthington. Why are there too of these clones?
>actors
>producers
>fitness influencers
All deserve the rope and you're irrational if you disagree with me.
Eugene Sandow is probably the natty limit so if you see anyone bigger than him it's safe to assume they are on steroids
This guy was DEFINITELY roiding.
>BUT THE PICTURE IS BLACK AND WHITE!!!
And?
Is there a safe "juice?"
Asking for everyone itt wondering. It doesn't have to be extremely great as long as it works and won't kill me.
tren but you gotta be careful
So microdose or... what?
>plenty
Which are? Like the shit on tv?
There are new pills that literally are miracle fat burners. I think one was meant as a cholesterol drug and the other is just a straight fat killer. They're new you should check them out. Also, I don't think I need to tell you this but your answer isn't what I was looking for. I await with overexcited anticipation at your next reply.
Real nice. Very funny. I hope you are very, very entertained.
There are plenty of "safe" juice. There is just always a risk involved. But so is it with every glass of alcohol you take, every joint you smoke, every SSRI they prescribe, every aspirine you take. The risk is really low, but anything can be toxic for you.
Yes, there's safe miracle muscle pills, just like there are safe "lose 50 lbs pills". None of them have a physical price to them.
That's why everyone you know is sleek and muscular.
Not everyone wants to be sleek and muscular that badly. Second, just because miracle drugs exist, doesn't mean it's going to be marketed to the masses. Nuclear power isn't used despite it's obvious effectiveness.
Just have a small army of doctors monitor you weekly like hemsworth bro
Yeah, the problem is people always get hooked on the big and escalate to unsafe dosages.
I'd settle for comic book Daredevil size. I like being able to wipe my own ass and scratch the top of my head.
Just remember, this is what superman used to look like before steroid use was common.
Before roid use was common
absolute legend
is that uncle Rico?
He doesn't use his legs either kek
I've been lifting for only 2 months and am already seeing serious gains, bros. My muscles are very tight now, I'd say I'm about 20-30% stronger than I was 2 months ago. Lifting is great. Hope I can stay consistent and see what I look like by next summer.
This isn't Cinemaphile homosexual, but good job anon, keep it up