Pre 9/11 episodes of cartoons before the planes hit

This might be a weird topic but it's kind of a nostalgia thing for me but what episodes of cartoons do you think about when you think of pre 9/11? like around 2001 before September there was just a different vibe to cartoons

For example I always think of the Towelie episode of South Park it came out a month before 9/11 and it felt so comfy and laid back compared to later South Park I watch every now and then cause it kind of gives me a nostalgic feeling for the brief period after the 90s but before 9/11

You guys got any examples that come to mind?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it feels like nining leven didn't just create a political change in america, something happened around the same time to cause major cultural shifts as a whole, even outside of the country, and idk if the two are related but it certainly feels like it
    some kinda innocence was lost

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It un-leavened the bread in America, but he who eats of Christ's bread, leavens the bread in their soul. We need Jesus to fight Santa again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      24hr news channels started around that time and we all got to have iraq war coverage shoved down our throats 24/7. The slow process of oligarchs taking over all media outlets and social media dominating public discourse through ceaseless disinformation and unchecked spread of conspiracy theories fracturing reality has only exacerbated our downfall

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This happened with my mom too, she started watching the news constantly after 9/11.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Whenever I see 2000s nostalgia I always think to myself "Do you not remember coming home from school and the TV being on and it constantly being about war and terrorists?" Granted nowadays a lot of people don't but like, that was a defining feature of the 00s.

          Yeah it seems like most people forget about that and just focus on the positives of the 00s nowadays. The entire edgy culture itself was largely a result of the general atmosphere following 9/11. People were paranoid and depressed at first and then it gave way to mass anger against the Bush administration as the decade wore on.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >then it gave way to mass anger against the Bush administration as the decade wore on.
            It's funny how people forget, but Bush was REALLY demonized back then. Like there were mass protests burning effigies of the guy and posters depicting him as Satan due to the Iraq war.

            Reminder that Matt and Trey made an entirely different show on Comedy Central called "That's My Bush!" that came out from April 4 to May 23, 2001 of all times. So yeah the creators of South Park were delving into political topics pretty early on, even before 9/11. That's My Bush! is a complete product of it's time. Something like Team America: World Police was also a product of it's time made by the South Park creators but it's still more timeless because America is still basically the "World Police". This song is still catchy as frick:

            It's like Starship Troopers in a way. Intellectually you know all that war isn't justified, but it's easy to get caught up in the fun of it all.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I actually considered bringing that up, shit like American Idiot was huge precisely because it tapped into that anger and I remember near the end of his administration whole cities were getting shut down from mass protests. It was a turbulent and angry decade.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I remember that shit
              It was shit

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You're right about the Bush demonization (especially after Iraq, but he was already being compared to a chimp and made fun of from the start). But it's important to note that Matt and Trey planned to make that series regardless of who won, and planned it before 9/11.
              >Parker and Stone stated before the 2000 presidential election that they would create a satire about whoever won. According to their DVD commentary, they were "95% certain that Gore would win" and began developing the series under the title Everybody Loves Al. When the final election results were in limbo, production was delayed until the winner was determined. With Bush's election, the title became the entendre That's My Bush! The final episode involves Dick Cheney forcing Bush to step down, and featured an alternate title music called That's My Dick! which, later in the episode, changed to What a Dick!

              >The entire idea behind the series was to parody sitcoms. The premise developed into one of the U.S. President in office. Parker recalled the idea came about three months before the 2000 presidential election. The duo were "95 percent sure" that Democratic candidate Al Gore would win, and tentatively titled the show Everybody Loves Al.[2] It was, essentially, the same show: a lovable main character, the sassy maid, the wacky neighbor.[5] Parker said the producers did not want to make fun of politics, but instead lampoon sitcoms.[2] The duo watched a lot of Fawlty Towers in preparation.[5]
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_My_Bush!#Development

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >especially after Iraq, but he was already being compared to a chimp and made fun of from the start
                Though his approval ratings were the highest I remember for any president in the period right after 9/11. That lasted about a year or so, then his approval went to hell after Iraq.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bush's immediate handling of 9/11 was extremely presidential and maybe some of the best public leadership out of any US president since Eisenhower. It's fricking surreal looking back on how he conducted himself then versus how his overall administration played out. It's little wonder his approval rating surged the way it did, but what a long-term fumble.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                after reading this post and watching videos I want to derail the thread into 9/11 conspiracy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget the whole recount business in the 2000 election. A lot of democrats didn't accept Bush as legitimately elected.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Even that though wasn't anywhere near as vicious as politics gets nowadays. 2016 and 2020 elections were way worse of course.
                Without constantly being online with social media, people were usually a bit more laidback about things.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >they were "95% certain that Gore would win" and began developing the series under the title Everybody Loves Al
                They are so fricking bad at political predictions. Remember when they created an entire season of South Park predicated on the certainty that Hillary would win in 2016? But she didn't so they had to scramble like mad to redo the episode last minute and all the plot points they were building up towards made no sense?

                We also ended up with Garrison Trump because they originally thought he was a joke candidate that would leave the race quick. But Trump didn't so they were stuck with this dumb premise and had to go with it all the way to Trump/Garrison actually becoming President.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I actually considered bringing that up, shit like American Idiot was huge precisely because it tapped into that anger and I remember near the end of his administration whole cities were getting shut down from mass protests. It was a turbulent and angry decade.

            There are aspects I like of the 00s but I think that people who idealize them were likely either very young or too negative about the modern world. I don't like things now either but I'd definitely not want to relive the 00s, even if it did have a lot of fun video games and cartoons.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I actually miss it because amidst it's tirbulence and anger, the people of all walks of life were unified by their rage against the machine, and the powers that be clearly did not like it and managed in the 2010s to psyop division among the people to cannibalize each other, especially with some having this weird mantra of mandatory happiness and any dissident feeling being disencouraged. Thus the union of the people was done away with and now the powers that be, The Man, The Machine, however you wanna call it, know they just have to keep the circus on going, without even the need of bread, as the different peoples keep cannibalizing each other, living on in a strange state of conformism, which I notice growing stronger among the younger kids. Even their supposed acts of rebellion and dissident are fueled by a need of conformism based on their own bias against other peoples, not knowing their sights are being diverted.

              "Fight the Power" is dead.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Whenever I see 2000s nostalgia I always think to myself "Do you not remember coming home from school and the TV being on and it constantly being about war and terrorists?" Granted nowadays a lot of people don't but like, that was a defining feature of the 00s.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Most people probably forget about this but 9/11 prompted South Park to make a whole episode about Bin Laden. It was the same season as the Towlie episode mentioned in OP.

        Come to think of it, this might have prompted a tonal shift in South Park where they would delve more and more into topical news stories instead of just random funny stories. Early South Park was more random timeless type of stuff like a Hellen Keller musical or Fat Camp or whatnot. Modern South Park is just taking the news and turning it into an episode.
        >"Oh what is South Park's take on COVID going to be?"
        >"Will South Park comment on the war in Israel?"
        >"OnlyFans is a thing so I guess they got to make an episode about that now!"

        It's just not the same. We live in a culture where we are inundated with politics and news. Entertainment has stopped being an escape from the news and become just another source of politics.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yup, same episode that had this clip

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d6DqFfD1vQ
          This happened with my mom too, she started watching the news constantly after 9/11.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Modern South Park is just taking the news and turning it into an episode.
          it's even worse now because even when south park did topical stuff early on, it was pretty massive news stories back when not everyone had access to the web, and they could truly say they "did it first"
          now everything passes by so fast, every trendy topic is minor and annoying at best, and even big current stuff like scandals and wars and psyops pretty much get instantly memed on before they even get to make the episode so all the jokes have already been made for them
          it's the perfect example of a show being the product of it's time, a show like that just doesn't belong in our era of hyper information

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Entertainment has stopped being an escape from the news and become just another source of politics.
          Even when entertainment was about the news it was still a different take on it, now entertainment is just another manner to consume the news and the approved set of opinions and ideas via.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a wartime thing. For a long time anti-establishment cartoons that push the genre were a big thing, being fun and creative. Then, the culture had to shift, were you "had" to rely on the establishment to fight the terror. That makes a walking on egg shell society where you're not sure who you can and can't make fun of, except the government and the enemy country. So it puts a great divide that makes it hard to keep a smile and be comfortable.

      I remember SNL did a great parody of this with Spongebob uncomfortable about making propaganda. Even got Tom Kenny to voice it. He didn't want to and they put cp on his laptop

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Even got Tom Kenny to voice it. He didn't want to and they put cp on his laptop
        woah didn't hear about this bit

        let me sperg out for a moment
        It IS scary how nearly every institution is connected tho, isn't it?
        make problems for the government? i guess our- err... i mean.. the tooootally seperate information bureau will just have to... "find"... some info about you *wink wink* and then the media that has... nooothing to do with us... will publish the story. and somehow, for no reason whatsoever, we will get the, uh, i mean... the medical complex, compleeeetely of their own accord and to no benefit to us, will find and diagnose you will a sudden, practically overnight onset of a mental disease that makes you incapable of any rational thought, for which you never displayed symptoms.. just, yknow, randomly... and-
        and it just fricking keeps going, don't worry tho nothing is connected, don't say it is, because fifteen different non connected organizations, systems and complexes will all suddenly and randomly punish you... separately...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well, it is synergy. If they say you're crazy, they'll say you're crazy and you'll seem crazy and you'll get diagnosed as crazy because it's easier to do that than validate someone's opinions so eh. Doctor's will give you hormones to grow boobs if you're nice enough

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yup, and don't forget what a big catch 21 the whole "crazy" thing is
            >Disorder where you can't judge anything properly
            >Pin it on anyone
            >If they say they're not crazy, that's just proof of the disorder
            It's like the "you're a liar and if you say you're not then you're lying" paradox just in the form of systematic oppression

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Lazy doctors also seem to say "it's all in your head" a lot to problems they can't diagnose. Very frustrating. If you persist, telling them your symptoms are real, and you even have an injury or something that triggered it, they'll still say it's psychological and disagreeing is just a symptom of that. So you end up needing to see multiple doctors when your problem is something rare.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Unfortunately psychological warfare has become so common in society that some doctors don't even need to be in on the scheme anymore, they just honest to god believe in what they're blabbering about because they've been brainwashed no different than the rest of society
                Notice how the extremes of psychological hypermedicalization progress in a similar pattern as the amount of media propaganda we are exposed to, from the looney bins of the 50's, to the "every kid is on at least a few different drugs because they dared to want to play and be active" nightmare of the 90s, to know when psychological 'care' has been painted as being cool and trendy, telling people you have several mental disorders and are on a wienertail of pills is so #relatable and cute, and every normalgay knows all the psychobabble and manipulation tactics of the average shrink and can basically manipulate others by themselves without even needing to see a doctor

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >He didn't want to and they put cp on his laptop
          he was talking about spongebob in the context of the short, spongebob didn't want to do the propaganda cartoon so they put him in a cage and put porn on a laptop to frame him as some sort of enemy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I see
            Lol knowing the feds (press F to spit) I was fully willing to believe they'd go THAT petty just because I guy wouldn't do an act

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah lol, didn't think I neede to clarify that

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        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      simple explanation: USA people realized what Europeans and Arabs already knew: that there are conspiracies and innocence and trust will get them killed, they realized there is a constant war waged on them even when they don't realize, and they can't name the culprits or they get cancelled for hate-speech. the resulting stress is unconsciously or consciously projected into cartoons.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think you clearly remember the 00s because bashing Muslims as a consequence of 9/11 was incredibly common until like 2008. It basically wasn't seen as hate speech and was actively promoted by the media.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Burgers where so assblasted about getting their just desserts they wouldnt shut up about it. Honestly for the rest of us 9/11 was a major shitstorm sure, but ultimately another terrorist attack.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

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      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Our country's motto had always been retaliation with extreme prejudice, it's why the war of 1812 happened, it's why we fought in the barbary wars. For many the war in Afghanistan and Iraq was this as well but our leaders wanted to stay and play in the desert instead of getting in, killing everyone and then getting out

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  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This board is about childrens cartons with female characters that can be sexualized, if you post this trash again I'll have no other option but to report you to the proper authorities who will revoke your posting privileges and consider harsher action if this isn't the first time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this is still about children cartoons it just also happens to involve 9/11

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Band Geeks was the last Spongebob episode to premier before 9/11, originally airing on September 7th 2001. I've seen some people online mention this as an additional reason it might be so fondly remembered and I agree with them honestly. Besides the episode being great it's pretty much the last big cultural splash that happened before 9/11.

    Gorillaz' self-titled album and the MTV music videos/skits always stuck out to me as sort of a time capsule into that era too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Animation was better before 9/11 and I don't think it's ever recovered. Even the best stuff today and indie anims are all about anxiety, stress, escapism and struggle to find peice in whatever fantasy world they live in

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This and the end of yugoslavia wars marked the downfall of eastern european animation

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This board is truly out of ideas

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you still post here then?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When I think of pre 9/11 I always think of Recess: School's Out. I even think this was the last film I saw before 9/11

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was inside my dads balls pre 9/11 so unfortunately i wouldnt have a say lol

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Invader Zim since I had largely drifted from watching cartoons at the time but Jhonen Vasquez seemed acceptable in my edgy teenager brain.

    Was the first thing I ever to torrented and it was on dial-up.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neat

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember Adult Swim was only 2 weeks in when it started. They skipped the 6th episode of Cowboy Bebop after 9/11, but also for multiple reasons. The 8th and 22nd episodes were also skipped in the initial airing.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    “Wouldn’t it be funny if we made fun of the most vapid and manipulative corner of the media currently? You know, boy bands? And then threw in some commentary on the military-entertainment complex? That shouldn’t upset anybody now that the Cold War’s been over for a decade. What do you think, Mike?”

    “Perfect! All it needs is a building in New York City to be attacked at the end. I love me those outlandish endings.”

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Before 9/11 StickDeath.com was pretty generic run of the mill stick figure animations, after 9/11 it became cool

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Different webtoon, but you couldn’t make a character like Zeeky Boogy Doog in the months after September 01

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe not, but you could make a cartoon about gunning down muslims. In fact american kids did just that and sent them to soldiers deployed in the war

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