I remember when it was released, every review stated that Arnie wasn't returning and it probably put people off making it sound substandard to the first one.
Danny Glover ruined what could have been a great sequel but people dont like to admit that because he was alright in the movie and seems like an inspired choice, but if Kurt Russel was the star it may have even overshadowed Predator 1. Instead we get bumbling Danny Glover and a movie nobody saw, a bit of a waste
I think I missed the connecting thread about the old gun. At the end of Predator 2, an alien gives Danny Glover an old gun as a prize. Used to belong to Billy The Kid or something.
This same gun(?) was seen in Prey. Why? What am I missing?
It might be Stonewall Jackson's, in one of the short stories they recently published in an omnibus there is a story of Jackson and a group of soldiers having a series of death fights with Predators, it's almost as dumb as you'd imagine (one of the soldiers uses the company colours as a lance and charges a predator with his shitty motorbike) and at the end stonewall beats his predator and is set free, he races back to friendly lines covered in predator blood only to get lit up by friendly fire. There was a point where they traded stuff but the story was fricking moronic.
Thanks. I found this: >"She then hands the pistol to the elder of the tribe. He looks at the engraving on it, which reads: "Raphael Adolini 1715." This is a callback to "Predator 2." At the end of that movie, which is set in 1997 Los Angeles, Danny Glover's LAPD Lieutenant Harrigan character is gifted that exact pistol from a Predator."
So how did the Predators get that gun back from the tribe? Can Predators time travel?
Who knows, maybe a week after she killed the predator in her time they all got smallpox and died, the predators keep track of winners, so theh could have gone back?
I don't want to make excuses for shoddy film making tho.
No I feel ya. Just an easter egg for the sake of having an easter egg.
But I tell ya what, if they make a Predator film/series following that gun through timelines, I'd be down for that. For the Predator race, it's obviously a prized possession. The man who first wielded it, musta been one badass motherfricker.
Watching it back to back with the original makes it come off as shitty and silly 90s schlock. People like that angle, especially with someone like Gary Busey hamming it up but it makes it age poorly, only highly regarded by weird contrarians who get off pretending to see the secret genius of trash films.
>shitty and silly 90s schlock
the older I get the more I love that kind of shit. More entertaining than any of the pretentious garbage and orchestrated snuff on Netflix for sure.
I was rewatching Galaxy Quest recently and realised what I've been missing from cinema for so long. A little bit of make believe and kitschy self-aware humour.
Simply because it had to be compared with the first Predator. In a world where Terminator 2 outdid its predecessor in every aspect, and Aliens is a successful Starship Troopers meet Alien spinoff, Predator 2 simply falls flat compared to 1st movie. Predator is an almost perfect sci-fi action flick. It avoids being corny, and unlike more recent Prometheus and Covenant, it does so without sniffing its own pretentious farts.
well, back in the day when competent people made movies a showing like this would not be considered particularly good, now obviously by today's standards Predator 2 is fricking unbeatable.
It has the look and feel of a comic book adaptation. There's a whiff of capeshit about the whole thing.
>There's a whiff of capeshit about the whole thing.
No there isn't, moron, try watching it before shitting out a moronic opinion.
90s capeshit was kino though even if it was cheesy as frick. I’d rather that over the literal AIDS that comes out today.
Because everyone assumes every sequel sucks so nobody gives it a chance
Danny Glover plays it like he wants to frick the predator. Watch it again dude is in heat.
Well it was pretty hot
Now I have to watch it again.
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Certified hood classic
It was ass
I remember when it was released, every review stated that Arnie wasn't returning and it probably put people off making it sound substandard to the first one.
I have no idea. I love it, always have.
last time when predator actually felt like it was an alien and not a human in costume.
I related more to the city setting than the jungle. It was kino, and the boss fight in the spaceship is sick.
Danny Glover ruined what could have been a great sequel but people dont like to admit that because he was alright in the movie and seems like an inspired choice, but if Kurt Russel was the star it may have even overshadowed Predator 1. Instead we get bumbling Danny Glover and a movie nobody saw, a bit of a waste
I enjoyed Danny as much as Arnie tbh. I love his dialogue and the banter between the police officers.
I think I missed the connecting thread about the old gun. At the end of Predator 2, an alien gives Danny Glover an old gun as a prize. Used to belong to Billy The Kid or something.
This same gun(?) was seen in Prey. Why? What am I missing?
It might be Stonewall Jackson's, in one of the short stories they recently published in an omnibus there is a story of Jackson and a group of soldiers having a series of death fights with Predators, it's almost as dumb as you'd imagine (one of the soldiers uses the company colours as a lance and charges a predator with his shitty motorbike) and at the end stonewall beats his predator and is set free, he races back to friendly lines covered in predator blood only to get lit up by friendly fire. There was a point where they traded stuff but the story was fricking moronic.
Thanks. I found this:
>"She then hands the pistol to the elder of the tribe. He looks at the engraving on it, which reads: "Raphael Adolini 1715." This is a callback to "Predator 2." At the end of that movie, which is set in 1997 Los Angeles, Danny Glover's LAPD Lieutenant Harrigan character is gifted that exact pistol from a Predator."
So how did the Predators get that gun back from the tribe? Can Predators time travel?
Who knows, maybe a week after she killed the predator in her time they all got smallpox and died, the predators keep track of winners, so theh could have gone back?
I don't want to make excuses for shoddy film making tho.
No I feel ya. Just an easter egg for the sake of having an easter egg.
But I tell ya what, if they make a Predator film/series following that gun through timelines, I'd be down for that. For the Predator race, it's obviously a prized possession. The man who first wielded it, musta been one badass motherfricker.
Watching it back to back with the original makes it come off as shitty and silly 90s schlock. People like that angle, especially with someone like Gary Busey hamming it up but it makes it age poorly, only highly regarded by weird contrarians who get off pretending to see the secret genius of trash films.
>shitty and silly 90s schlock
the older I get the more I love that kind of shit. More entertaining than any of the pretentious garbage and orchestrated snuff on Netflix for sure.
I was rewatching Galaxy Quest recently and realised what I've been missing from cinema for so long. A little bit of make believe and kitschy self-aware humour.
same
It wasn't so bad. Just don't have the same atmosphere as the first. It's a honest fun.
it had violent atmosphere, that what was missing in later films.
Simply because it had to be compared with the first Predator. In a world where Terminator 2 outdid its predecessor in every aspect, and Aliens is a successful Starship Troopers meet Alien spinoff, Predator 2 simply falls flat compared to 1st movie. Predator is an almost perfect sci-fi action flick. It avoids being corny, and unlike more recent Prometheus and Covenant, it does so without sniffing its own pretentious farts.
>everyone says it's good
>everyone always says it's underrated
Why is this?
21 Jump Street vs Predator
Do it!
In the first movie jungle looks very challenging. You are hunted no matter what.
LA looks like you will be alright if you just drop your gun.
I like it but the newscasters and tone of the movie make it feel like Robocop
My feel exactly. They want to make it like LA is a violent place even without the alien.
It is violent but you can't force it with a reporter character
>"Hey mon, I'm a jamaican drug lord in the slums of LA and dee Pradator took out me whole gang. Why all dee Black folk die first, mon?"
That tone is exactly what I liked about it. It has that comical Verhoeven Robocop/Recall vibe and I love those movies.
its dread mon, truly dread.
>BLM rioters attack a suburban area
Is that the one where he tears out a sink?
he doesnt tear out a sink. he tears out the medicine cabinet and uses it as a surface to set up his healing stuff. man i love that part.
I liked it.
its great. harrigan is so mad he tries to go toe to toe and once busey gets cut in half hes scared shitless and tries to run. i love this damn movie.
well, back in the day when competent people made movies a showing like this would not be considered particularly good, now obviously by today's standards Predator 2 is fricking unbeatable.
Danny Glover is very funny in the movie.