Pretty much sums up ChatGPT.
did it really take you this long to figure that out? none of that shit is 'AI'
Isn't it? No one here is really qualified to say what AI is. It's still a really young field of science. But ChatGPT takes a bunch of data it has access to and uses it to form something coherent. On a basic level, that's what we do as well.
art is abstract, not a science
Well that's debatable. Art as we know it is a product of the human mind. The human mind isn't magical, it follows scientific principles.
Bullshit. Art is NOT an etherial, mysterious, abstract concept. It is deliberate. It is the simplified concept of the right and left side of the brain working in perfect balance. Gender-weird half-baked intellectuals who paid too much for a college “education” will never achieve this level of creativity. They can bitch and moan for “representation” or get the Guild to petition to pack six dozen of these useless creatures on a single writing team but they will never produce anything good.
meanwhile it's a billion dollar industry on trying to understand the female mind
You didn’t even read or think about it. I hope all writers starve to death. Leave this place.
I'm just saying, there's a lot more complexities to life than what can be literally described and the clearest proof is the female mind
what makes writing hard is combining the sexes
Your divide and conquer/slide tactics do not work here. You’re jot even reading what you are replying to. Modern Hollywood writers suck, they deserve to starve to death, and Hollywood needs to burn.
I ain't disagreeing with you, but AI isn't the solution
I don't even think the female mind is that complex. It's just the three simple facts that women want more than one thing, women change what they want regularly and what women actually want is not the same as what everyone (including themselves) WANTS them to want, if that makes sense. But yes, eventually once we understand neuroscience well enough, we will be able to simulate the human mind realistically, including the female mind.
that'll be a revolutionary day considering people have been trying to understand female nature for thousands of years
People have been trying to fly for thousands of years. Sadly they never succeeded. Oh wait.
literal science =/= abstract state of being
it's like social skills, guys drop out of even speaking to women because they can't grasp those abstract concepts
Psychology is still a science. The brain does stuff because biological and physical interactions in the brain makes it do stuff. Once again, there is nothing magical about your mind. Also stop thinking of women as these mysterious abstract creatures that's probably why the "guys" you talk about have trouble talking to them. They're just people like you and me.
there's a large disconnect from the state of man and woman considering the current trends, men are not developing social skills required to interact with women and that isn't explainable
Men don’t have money to go out and socialize anymore. They’re busting ass for scraps and sharing an apartment or living with mommy. Stop being such a fucking boomer.
you can date under those conditions, this is where you're using false data about female nature to justify a position-- girls don't care about your state of financials they care about your state of mind
How can you date under those circumstances? Go dutch at the Taco Bell then go hang out in the parking lot? have a nice day.
women are just as lonely as you, they just deal with it in productive ways vs further isolation, they need partners as much as the guy working at taco bell wants a partner
What is wrong with you? Women are living with their parents, calling their dogs their babies, and hanging out on the Internet, too. Stupid fucking boomer. Die in a fire along with your useless opinions.
women they deal with their loneliness in productive ways
men feel shame for themselves, and isolate themselves further and feel useless, women do the opposite they take what they can get, shamelessly
What do you mean by current trends?
the chronic isolation men are putting up with thanks to the internet: porn, anime and video games
So men are staying at home with vices and not learning social skills by talking to people. So they don't have the social skills to interact with women. What is there not to understand? How does any of that suggest that the female brain is somehow magical?
magical isn't the right word, abstract is far better... it's hard to explain in words, it's not literal, much like social skills can't be taught they can only be experienced
men are falling behind, and I don't really know why
Social skills are complicated. We learn them intuitively and subconsciously so we don't really know *why* we know what to do and what not to do, we just know. But just because they're too complicated for us to explain in words doesn't mean they can't be understood (by for example... an AI).
They’re just some stupid fucking boomer living 30 years in the past with no idea at all how younger women are withering in this economy as well.
if men are fucked, women are equally fucked; where did I state otherwise?
the difference is in the behavior, and the fact is men are from mars, women are from venus
I see overweight women adopting their pets as their children, drinking heavily, and complaining online about being lonely.
What productive ways? EVERYBODY is miserable, male and female, you stupid fucking boomer.
the first notion of the female brain is this: ego
no women admits to being lonely, not in a serious cry for help manner, but as a attention grab
women don't admit fault, it crushes their ego something they work tirelessly to protect
women are fine alone, because they have to be fine alone; men however crumble
the world would be better if we could solve this social divide and make the sexes interact productively again, but it's a very hard topic... like I said, abstract, difficult
>women are fine alone, because they have to be fine alone
ur takes suck dude. simple ass
you're just stuck in the perspective of a male, this is the entire point of the conversation: women are complex creatures
I'm not saying AI doesn't eventually reach the level of abstract thought, but somebody is going to have to be smart enough to teach it and nobody has been able to accurately write about women in history
It isn’t abstract. The problem is MONEY, you stupid fucking boomer. If you can’t support yourself you can’t support a marriage, male or female. We are WE. BEYOND the idea of two full time workers being able to afford to buy a home and raise children. Stupid fucking boomer.
women want warm bodies that they can relate and bond with, not cash registers
Who said women want cash registers? Stupid fucking boomer. Men can’t get out and socialize because they don’t have money. Women are in the same boat save for ladies nights at the bars. Everybody is BROKE, you stupid fucking boomer. There is nothing suddenly magically wrong with men. Or women. WHEN YOU CANNOT SUPPORT EVEN YOURSELF the fuck kind of impact do you think this has on the dating scene? I cannot wait until the day you die alone in a nursing home abused by minority women and wonder what went wrong.
you keep repeating yourself, I promise you that the problem is at a social level and not a financial level
if you can't get a gf broke, you're not going to do much better rich-- plenty of rich dudes are living a isolated lifestyle due to the very issue I'm talking about and they could support 10 families
>you're just stuck in the perspective of a male, this is the entire point of the conversation: women are complex creatures
no doubt, but the idea that young women would be the ones that would be alone is fucking retarded and makes no sense. They might be getting shitty attention and shitty partners and shitty feedback and no real options, but they are not the ones who are alone with no sexual partners at 25+
Oh, so you’re telling me the decent rich guys DESPISE the women in their social class, but stay at home because normal people cannot afford to socialize anymore.
>normal people cannot afford to socialize anymore
Im not the other anon, I agree the issue is social, it could be solved by guys just all of a sudden getting the mindset and social experience delivered to brains. But thats not how real life works. I think that america has become incredibly vapid and spoiled for a number off reasons, and the pridefullness and lack of need creates people with zero courage and zero need for it.
>nobody has been able to accurately write about women in history
I just don't agree with your take dude(?) I don't see anything ethereal about women. Their minds are not more complex than men's only more erratic and therefore harder to predict using observation alone. Just because it's easier to relate to what men say and do doesn't mean we know what they're thinking.
Underneath it all is still biology. That's how we'll eventually, realistically simulate a human mind. Not by someone writing about it in a way that makes sense to us (we will never be smart enough to understand ourselves) and then feeding it to ChatGPT, but by actual biologists and neuroscientists and computer scientists slowly piecing together how a brain works until they have the full picture.
It might be that at the end of all that, we have an artificial woman who STILL doesn't know what she wants to do on the weekend, but she will have a mind as real as any of us.
I'm not smart enough to know, I just know most men suck at abstract thought and are becoming more literal by the day while women seem naturally gifted in abstract thought & imagination
very neurotic creatures
I kind of get what you mean in the sense that men tend to be more cold and logical which doesn't seem like a good base for creativity or imagination. But it's always been like this and for what it's worth, I think men are great at abstract thought. There are so many amazing writers and artists who are men. Look at how many autistic nerds who couldn't hold a conversation to save their life absolutely love fantasy universes that require creativity to even comprehend. Abstraction is about more than just neuroticism.
>Isn't it? No one here is really qualified to say what AI is.
Says the mensch to the left of the bell curve.
That would make someone an untermensch but I'll forgive you for not being smart enough to know that.
>No one here is really qualified to say what AI is
Speak for yourself, plenty of qualified people lurk here to shitpost. But AI discussion online is mostly the same recycled arguments from misinformed people so it feels pointless to engage after a while. That and the internet is so polarised that communicating nuance is hard.
If the thread is still up in the morning, I'll effortpost.
I'd be happy to hear your opinion. Again, I don't think anyone is really qualified to say what AI is. It's a form of intelligence that's never been seen before. The point at which something stops being whatever ChatGPT is, and becomes a full AI is as much a philosophical question as a technical one. It requires us to answer the questions of what consciousness is and what it is to be sapient and any neuroscientist will happily tell you we are very far off from answering those questions.
ML is AI and virtually every industry already uses ML.
>ML is AI
Based on what?
How the words are used in industry and academia.
So just a convention then
Yeah, like every term.
I know you hate women (I do too), but she has a point. Society changes, so the particular problems confronting, for example, changes. But AI „experiences“ these new problems only by proxy of someone writing about them. But if no one writes about them, it cannot write about them. The dramatization of our experiences ceases.
That's assuming an AI can never learn how someone's childhood trauma feels without them writing a book about it, but by instead using other data points. A psychologist's job, for example, is to understand the thoughts and feelings of their patient who may not be great at communicating how they feel and will most likely not be a writer. They do this using information they get from the patient, information they get from other patients in similar situations and psychological theory in general. There's no reason an AI can't eventually create a complete simulation of a human mind that has experienced trauma.
The human mind is extended throughout the human body. If you want to postulate that an machine could exactly replicate the experience of being a human to the point of being insisting indistinguishable from being a human, I’d tell you you’re nuts and should have unprotected missionary sex with a real woman when she’s ovulating.
>The human mind is extended throughout the human body
No it isn't, it's just the central nervous system. I have no idea what you're talking about but learn proper English please.
You don't get it, they couldn't replicate the experience but they could say all the same things that person says. It's why people freak out about chatgpt being indistinguishable from humans
AI trained on AI is gonna be so fucking kino.
>I know you hate women (I do too), but she has a point. Society changes, so the particular problems confronting, for example, changes. But AI „experiences“ these new problems only by proxy of someone writing about them. But if no one writes about them, it cannot write about them. The dramatization of our experiences ceases.
Should have learned a trade.
Writing is a trade
Writing is NOT a trade. It’s so damned bad I branched out into education and then graphic design “with writing skills.” Nobody pays writers. Go learn something else. People will throw money at you when their toilet is flooding shit water everywhere but when they need writing done will do it themselves, shrug, then say, “Eh, it’s good enough” and then go take a blissful shit and go to sleep.
a subzero sum gain trade
It's true tho. I tried training an AI on every movie made in the last 3 years. I walked away for maybe a half an hour, and when I came back, I found my PC with a cheap chud LED light kit and a self inflicted gunshot wound
evil dead 2 shirt so id at least take her out to dinner, maybe fuck her if she wants
wtf you cant just ignore her sign to determine if she is fuckable or not.
It's cute that you think she bought that shirt.
Her idea of childhood trauma is probably the time she ruined the wedding when she was 15 because she made a scene over the fact her uncle put his hand on her hip while they were dancing.
Image has woman so I didn't read the text
What compelled you to make this thread? Were you simply delighted by thinking you were smart posting this?
I thought it smart, are you jealous?
Total writer death. Kill Hollywood. Drink its blood. We warned you, but it’s too late!
We should listen to her. She dresses herself like a poverty-stricken neglected child does to make the school bus while mommy sleeps her drunk off. I mean, honestly.
chatgpt is my tutor
Chatgtp diagnosed my rare disease when a bunch of doctors told me I was crazy
Discoverkng you have an ai generated foot furry porn fetish is not a "rare disease" , anon
wow it's a hyper-competent black woman who knows everything and is always the smartest person in the room I've never seen this character before
I've coomed 10 times in the last 8 hrs from making AI qts and chatting with AI bots. I can't wait for the future, I should've got on this earlier.
>thread about chatGPT
>morphs into talking about women
One dude keeps talking about how women's brains are too abstract for AI, that's all there is to it. Also women are the center of the world as we know.
good luck explaining female manipulation to a computer
>Pretty much sums up ChatGPT.
ChatGPT is literally smarter than 99% of the population.
If you are measuring intelligence by amount of knowledge, then yea no fucking shit a computer with hundreds of thousands of terabytes of information is "smarter".
>hundreds of thousands of terabytes of information
ChatGPT doesn't have that information though. Models don't contain their training data.
I don't really know enough about coding or the theories of ai to understand how it learns without training data. So I guess you win if you do know, since it is probably above my head even if you described it to me.
ChatGPT is literally smarter than 99% of the population.
99% of the "smart" people you see everyday are just good at memorizing what actually smart people said eons ago.
ChatGPT is not a Chinese Room though
fitting that that line is delivered by some mulatto monstrosity with most likely double digit IQ
Or any movie or tv show from the past 15 years
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