>probably the best and most realistic show about military. >directed by an old woman

>probably the best and most realistic show about military
>directed by an old woman
Fricking how.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    everything else was so strong that she couldn't frick it up
    evidenced by white not making anything else remotely as good
    meanwhile simon & co are kino machines. simple as

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this is the first time ever someone has ever signed off with the "simple as" tagline without a pants shitting moronic take.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because the show was written by David Simon and Ed Burns. They did the Wire

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      david simon did 2 episodes of the wire in like season 4 come on

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Being this involved in the show undoubtedly means he had a key role in its success

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        are you confused? he was the creator/showrunner/head writer of the wire and it was based on a book written by Simon.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >super edgy show with nothing held back
    >a white character still doesn't say Black person with a hard R
    Many such cases. SAD!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      in the military you dont hear anyone say Black person
      during that time, when I was in, they pushed the everyone is the same color and we are all race blind: Army Green, etc.
      it was a better time

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I can't remember the show or movie but I remember a scene where a soldier was admonished for using the term "sand Black person" to refer to Iraqis as it offended the blacks. The soldier was ordered to restrict himself to "towel head" "camel jockey" and another one.

        Great scene. I wish I could remember the movie.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Might be Three Kings.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          in the military you dont hear anyone say Black person
          during that time, when I was in, they pushed the everyone is the same color and we are all race blind: Army Green, etc.
          it was a better time

          >super edgy show with nothing held back
          >a white character still doesn't say Black person with a hard R
          Many such cases. SAD!

          back in 2011 we had a guy get kicked out of country because we were taking contact and he was screaming
          >THERE'S Black folk IN THE TREES
          into the wrong radio that just so happened to be the battalion frequency on a day a 3 star general was visiting

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            but were the nigs in the trees? could be a useful callout

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Were there even trees?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                palms maybe. it could happen

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yeah but they're really anal with fricking around on the radio, honestly the dude got kind of lucky they didn't bust him down in rank

              Were there even trees?

              there are a lot of trees in some parts of afghanistan, we were in helmand where it's fairly green in the valleys.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >afghanistan
                I thought you were talking about Iraq. Trees seemed rare in the parts of Iraq I've seen.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yeah iraq is pretty arid all over there are oasis type areas but no alpine areas like afghan

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Palm forests must fricking suck ass. I wonder if they have like a palm version on Yosemite or some shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      did you even watch the show? it literally happens 5 minutes into the first episode

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Post it then

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not true, I just watched this a few weeks ago for the first time and a white dude says Black person in the last episode.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The redneck says it at least a couple times kek what

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Outside of Cinemaphile, Black person is rarely said. I can't remember the last time I really heard Black person instead of homie outside of here, including around very un-PC people.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Zero Dark Thirty was also directed by a woman.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      zero dark 30 isn't kino. bigelow hasn't made any
      but at least harron did american psycho and championed casting bale

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree. Certainly the part where they assault the compound is great military kino.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the raid is well done but that's like 2 hours into the movie and what precedes it isn't exceptional

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The raid is actually about a third of the runtime.
            And nah, I liked the stuff with the torture, Chastain and Jason Clarke's interactions where she refuses to girl out for even a second were pretty cool. The second act was a bit dull is all.

            The Hurt Locker was overrated crap tho. Just further proof that the Oscars are fricking moronic.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >The raid is actually about a third of the runtime
              no it isn't the movie is like 2 and a half hours long and it starts about 2 hours in. quarter max
              movie just meanders for so long without being engaging, and i get that's the factual plot but look at actual kino like zodiac for comparison

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Funniest part is the movie was almost "done" before the actual BIn Laden raid, then the raid happened so they had to add it to the movie
                Terrible movie

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Motherfricker you should wash your mouth before you speak about the woman who gave us The Loveless, Near Dark, Strange Days, Point Break and The Hurt Locker
        Frick off to bed and wait for tour mother to tug you on your pokemon sheets you underage moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Zero Dark Thirty was also a massive lie so it tracks a woman made it (and no, I'm not saying they didn't kill Bin Laden).

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >American military propaganda is not completely truthful
        GASP!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That movie with Adam driver, the report, was truthful

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >truthful
            >Any significant details = [REDACTED]

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Zero Dark Thirty
      establishment propaganda about how le strong CIA glowie woman saved the day

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The fake night scenes aren't great on rewatch, but strangely makes the night vision scenes look more realistic than anything else I've seen.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that they address how NVGs mostly suck is a great detail that is very realistic.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you mean american/western military?

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Women directors who enjoy the subject of men actually do amazing work when allowed to go all out. Something about the outside perspective mixed with genuine love creates to conditions for true kino.

    Bryce Dallas Howard directed the best episodes of Nu-Wars, in fact they're pretty much the only ones worth watching.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      there might be something to this. Point Break is directed by Bigelow and a testosterone charged action adventure classic.
      meanwhile David Lynch made Mulholland Drive, a completely female dominated movie and one of the best received movies of the 2000s. Girls love that movie

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm trying to remember a few other examples I noticed recently. But it's nearly bedtime and my brain is being uncooperative.
        And if you look up "shows for men with female directors" you'll get literally all the wrong answers.

        I might make a thread tomorrow.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          just leave and dont come back. homosexual.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unless the director is an auteur they have very little creative input, she's just the accountable person in charge of making sure everything comes together, she's not writing or editing anything

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      tempo tempo tempo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tempo tempo tempo, Godfather sir

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There are women actually good at art amongst all the hoes. Very few, but they do exist.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    behind every woman there is a man

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      moar liek
      >behind every woman is the entire male sex working so they can enjoy their "rights"

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >every man on earth who has ever lived
    >was created by a woman
    checkmate misogynists

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *incubated
      If I put a coin in a vending machine and a soda pops out, is the soda mine or the vending machine's? checkmate womyn

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We will never see something like this again. 11/10

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Whopper Junior! Whopper Junior!

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Makes the perfect war trilogy with HBO's other two shows
    >War is messy, but worth fighting for
    >Band of Brothers

    >War is hell
    >The Pacific

    >The frick is war?
    >Generation Kill

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >member war?
      >masters of the air

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        HBO dumped that series because it was too white.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >War is wasting japs and boring bullshit in Australia
      >The Pacific
      the weakest of the three by far

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You didn't connect with the characters like in BoB. The Sledgehammer arc was the best part but tbh for the war in the pacific they should have focused more on naval engagements. Still lightyears better than modern HBO trash.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Im killin japs

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >that scene were sledge cant even enjoy his ritual hunting trip with his father because he killed so many japs he couldn’t stand the sight of any more death

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              went so extreme it broke him
              same thing with lucky
              >walked out of some musical of ww2
              >"thats bullshit i have to tell the real story"

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        BoB is too much of a feelgood type show for me to take it seriously. It's essentially following the travels of a group of merry men as they walk across Europe whereas in the Pacific, the character who most resembles Dick Winters gets his brains blown out unceremoniously offscreen.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's cold.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          BoB is probably the best thing to ever be on TV.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not saying it's bad, the battle scenes are great and the cinematography is tops and I'd say better than the pacific. but the quippiness and the bants with the lads makes for a decidedly lighthearted tone. I mean the fricking show ends with a baseball game and some sappy narration, even.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yeqah it's a spielberg production he tends to end his movies like that.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              But they're real guys. I think that erases all that. I normally hate Spielberg sappiness too but the first time we watched it when I was a teenager, my old hardass dad and I had to just stare straight at the TV once the ending documentary scenes started trying not to cry. It's not sappy or light hearted, they're real people.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I really liked the end of the Pacific when sledge comes home and can't adjust. Really good stuff

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah the part where sledge goes hunting with his Dad and starts freaking the frick out as they're walking through the woods was really well done.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          it's a single source covering a relatively short period focusing on a single company in the more well known conventional theatre vs the complete opposite. whatever else less of challenge to hammer into a narrative.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I always get this confused with that old FX show Over There.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BELAYS THAT DEVIL DOG. YOUSSA SQUEALIN' LIKE A BUNCHA BUTTFRICKED VASSAR b***hES

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      GARZA
      GITCHUR STUPID ASS DOWN!
      THERE AIN'T EVEN ANYTHING FER YOU TA SHOOT AT

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        POW'LEECE THAT MOOOS'TACHE!!!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        POLICE THAT HARD DRIVE

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          THAT VIRGINITY WASN'T HERS TO LOSE

          kek

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          THAT VIRGINITY WASN'T HERS TO LOSE

          KEK

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Direction wasn't important in the film; it simply needed to be functional. The heart of it is the story which is based on a book. David Simon and company adapted it very well.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What film?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        meant the series. my bad.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Seems like an honest mistake, no harm done.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder there is an entire scene dedicated to telling you religion is bad

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      which scene

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        no there isn't. there's just one scene when ray sarcastically uses colbert's atheism as an excuse to not go pray. because he's a smartass.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I know, I wanted to see why you feel that scene is anti religion.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            not the offended anon. he's probably left the thread.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no there isn't. there's just one scene when ray sarcastically uses colbert's atheism as an excuse to not go pray. because he's a smartass.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >a scene featuring atheists means THE SHOW IS ANTIRELIGION REEEEEE

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Who gives a shit?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why do zoomies have panic attacks over seeing things they don't agree with?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You mean that scene with the homosexual who refuses to carry a gun?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      so what? lmfao you chuds really are the new snowflakes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the left are the real racists!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        shit bait

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          why would that be bait, it's just a statement of fact.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >fact

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              did i stutter?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    there are men in the trees

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you should read the book, there is a ton of stuff that happens in the book that isn't in the show.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I haven't read the book but I can confirm the original Rolling Stone article is fantastic. I miss good writing in magazines.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'll try to find a page about sixta it was so fricking funny. Give me a few.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        there's a bunch of them. he never actually names sixta in the book. he's just referred to as the coward of khadafi or something like that.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nate Fick's book is pretty good too, covers his officer bootcamp, SERE training and his deployment to Afghanistan.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Officers are morons, not gonna read that homosexual's book

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you took a break from eating crayons to post this trash?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >t. moronic officer

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Fick's book fills in a lot of backstory for the series and shows the kind of missions these guys really trianed for. It makes how pissed of they are at their role in invasion make way more sense to have that comparison.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          that's sentiment is stated by multiple characters throughout the show

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I know like the "ferraris in a demolition derby" line. but I didnt really know what that "real recon mission" theyre always talking about would have looked like until I read Fick's book

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Espera and Kocher both outright say they were trained for actual recon missions, and in Afghanistan they were doing actual recon missions. Like they dont hint at it or beat around the bush, they outright say it.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Fick is such a fricking good writer. Book was so engaging. Also love the part where a lady from the university he's applying to calls him for clarification on what he said in Generation Kill- "The good news is we get to kill people", and he just says no, I can't clarify it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          > the kind of missions these guys really trianed for
          Which was?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They were really meant to operate in very small teams down to 3 men usually on foot behind enemy lines with much more focus on stealth and intel gathering than anything they ever get to do in the show.

            Espera and Kocher both outright say they were trained for actual recon missions, and in Afghanistan they were doing actual recon missions. Like they dont hint at it or beat around the bush, they outright say it.

            Yeah they talk about recon missions a lot but they never describe what that is or just how different that would be from they are doing

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              autism. nahhh ESL. yep that's it. ESL.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Im just saying Ficks book gives some extra perspective on just how far the role they ended up playing in Iraq was from what they thought it would be

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'll try to find a page about sixta it was so fricking funny. Give me a few.

      there's a bunch of them. he never actually names sixta in the book. he's just referred to as the coward of khadafi or something like that.

      I fricking found it. This wasnt in the show.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Now I want to read the book, but I'm a poorgay, will have to pirate, I guess

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Support your local library or use their digital catalog

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Can't. Too many black people where I live and I don't have a library card.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks. I'll be okay, I look like a grizzled old veteran but they don't know that I was only in the Air Force and never killed anybody

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              download Libby

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        lmfao

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i wish i couldve took part in the invasion just to be a part of ray's vehicle

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          > just to be a part of ray's vehicle
          Let me guess, the seat?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            seat, trunk, horn, human armor for the vehicle
            anything just to hear those cracks

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    old women understand young men

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    THAT VIRGINITY WASN'T HERS TO LOSE

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    JAMES MATTIS WAS A b***h. HES A HACK AND A FRAUD, HES A GLORY SEEKING HOUND.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    can straight white men even say homosexual on HBO anymore?

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What are your best book recommendations? I want some comfy iraq reads please.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you want books on Iraq, the best two I know of are Generation Kill and One Bullet Away

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sexy Rudy

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    most kino ending of any show or film

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