Realistically can anyone even beat them?

Realistically can anyone even beat them?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean yeah, probably.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Didn’t star frick over an entire universe? What’s a bunch of tallmen gonna do?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The gem empire from Steven universe would best them pretty easily

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lmao, most gem weapons only work against other gems.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No? They quite clearly conquer planets and terraform them, Earth being the only one that didn't get finished thanks to CG resistance. If anything, gem weapons are slightly less effective against gems, which is why the Diamonds used Corrupting Light to deal with any remaining gem resistance.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bro if you get a giant drill shoved through your chest you’re dying too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You picked like, one of the only. cartoon sci-fi civilizations that the Irkens could curbstop easily, well done

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not at all
      Gems are very impressive technologically but they're big fish in a small pond. They had such little regard for organic life forms that fricking Lars of all people managed to become a thorn in their side because they didn't have security measures in place to deal with organic enemies.
      They could adapt and learn, sure, but they;re routinely shown to be completely puzzled when encountering new phenomena and are slow to understand and change their behavior from their pre-programmed duties.

      The Irkens meanwhile butt heads with other advanced alien races all the time, and while their technology's seems a little more crude and primitive than the gems, its still extremely effective. The flagship of their armada, The Massive, was able to fly straight through a star and come out in one piece, if a little roughed up.

      Theres no question they should be able to take the gems.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What do you mean the Diamonds are taller than us?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the gems still have a chance to defeat them by virtue of the fact they're not complete morons, but it would a be pretty difficult battle for them and odds don't seem favorable. They're no armed or experienced to deal with entities as their weapons are only suited to deal with gems and they apparently never really found any sapient life outside of humanity and gems. Plus, most gems, while still leagues ahead of Irkens or most people in the Invader Zim universe in terms of intelligence, they're still rather immature and lack much in the way of lateral thinking,

      not at all
      Gems are very impressive technologically but they're big fish in a small pond. They had such little regard for organic life forms that fricking Lars of all people managed to become a thorn in their side because they didn't have security measures in place to deal with organic enemies.
      They could adapt and learn, sure, but they;re routinely shown to be completely puzzled when encountering new phenomena and are slow to understand and change their behavior from their pre-programmed duties.

      The Irkens meanwhile butt heads with other advanced alien races all the time, and while their technology's seems a little more crude and primitive than the gems, its still extremely effective. The flagship of their armada, The Massive, was able to fly straight through a star and come out in one piece, if a little roughed up.

      Theres no question they should be able to take the gems.

      as this anon mentioned here, which the Irkens would definitely exploit. If the Irken Empire and the Gempire were people, the latter would be a domineering HR person while the former is like a sub eighty IQ crazed coke addict with a history of violence and.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The diamond hegemony has proved countless times that their empire is laughably weak and pathetic. The only reason they're empire even still exists is because they've never had to fight another species other than literal animals. Theie basic soldiers get tricked into a baseball game and sent on a wild goose chase to neptune. A general is outclassed by a teenager and a group of disabled off colors. Their elite soldier is mogged by a codependent lesbian and theie main dictators include a depressed chick, an idiot put down by a green autist, and finally one convinced to stop a conflict because she blushed. They fricking suck.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate SU, but I do like the idea of a galactic empire that only exists because it was first, not because it was any good

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's so crazy seeing how the fandom thought of Homeworld early on and how they turned out to be. Homeworld had this impression of being this domineering and incomprehensible vast that the sparse numbered Crystal Gems would have no real way of defeating and the Diamonds felt like these ageless alien gods that destroyed countless alien civilizations. Funny how things turned out

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What space empires could Homeworld actually stand a reasonably chance of defeating?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Invader Zim

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fate/Grand Order

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the uh Amphibia frog people could beat them with frog magic... or something

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In-universe? I dunno if we see any other aliens so maybe not. In fiction? Easily. The irkens have powerful and amazing technology but their leadership is dogshit cuz they literally just put the tallest guys in charge. If you have technology on par or even just have access to space travel but also actual strategy or competent learership in any way, you could end the Irken Emprie in like a week.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I dunno if we see any other aliens so maybe not.
      There are a bunch of other alien species we get to see, even outside of the Resisty. But most of them are pretty pathetic, and stupid.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IIRC didn't the creator reveal a bunch of lore from an earlier version of the show that was supposedly still kinda canon about how the Control Brains were the ones really running the show and the Tallest were just figureheads after they manipulated Zim into killing the last one and then turning into a traumatized insane moron.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    who?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There was the 'Star-Jackers' that had a treaty with them so maybe them

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Go after their snacks.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mortimer Mouse

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Left to their own devices they'll probably blow themselves up eventually.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i know someone...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not a creative bone in their bodies.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Xeelee

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would they even notice the Irkens?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They'll destroy themselves due to infighting

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zim could.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    me

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of these homies forget that Irkens can infiltrate societies easily. They have to be a threat in the first place in order to even build up their army. We just see the outlier frick ups of Zim and the Tallest.

    It also depends on the fighting conditions. If it's just Army vs Army then the Gem empire has a chance once they find out that water hurts Irkens. All 40k factions can easily wipe them out too. Daeleks are actually pretty much Irkens with nearly the same competence level, that would actually be a funny fight to see.

    If it's a situation where people figure out that the Irkens exist then I think the Green Lanterns, Skynet, Starship troopers, and like a dozen other space traveling militaristic civilizations could take out the Irkens.

    Shit the human race in the show could easily take out the Irken army if they actually gave a shit. Gaz was right in that Zim was not a threat.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zim is absolutely a fricking threat. You can see it every time he fights someone other than humans that he usually ends up completely obliterating them.
      >The Planet Jackers
      >Hobo 13
      >The Alien Babies
      And the in the comics, you have a frickton more of examples. Frick, in the Zimvoid comic, he ended up destroying literally every other universe with a Zim. He destroyed them.

      Zim is absolutely sandbagging against Dib, even if he doesn't realize it. Hell, in Dib's Wonderful Life of Doom he let him go. He had a giant laser thing pointed at him and just threw a bread. Zim could have taken over earth in episode 1 if he was at his "best" (aka when he's fighting other aliens)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        IIRC isn't the explanation that Zim went actually fricking insane after accidentally killing his Not!Mom or was that just some left over cruft from the early 2000s internet.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shit the human race in the show could easily take out the Irken army if they actually gave a sh
      And by human race, you mean Professor Membrane, right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        obviously

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are severely understimating the Irken's tech. In the Planet Jacker episode, Zim's shitty and outdated little ship uses it's lasers to carve the gigantic metal shell encasing earth in half, which was easily miles in thickness. It did it in like two minutes. It's not wonder the Massive's main cannons are able to volley fire and obliterate multiple planets in the movie.

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  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not live in the stupid line of their conquest.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not in universe as evident to all of the stupid beings that exist.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Invader Zim is a universe where there's like one in one hundred sane and rational beings among a sea of idiots

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't their fleet and the Tallest get stuck in the Florpus?

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It depends. The Imperium? No. Humans would defect on mass once they realize Irken slaves get to eat as much as they want and the Irken’s warp technology actually work. The imperium from Dune? No. Irkens would just blow up their source of spice and laugh as they perish. The empire from Star Wars? No. One Irken soldier can take over an entire planet. The Imperial doctrine is “cheap, fast, and easy”. Vader might give them a fight, but they’d just drown him in manpower. Bill Cypher? Yes. He’d probably be able to defeat them with trickery. Darkseid and Apokolips? Darkseid kills the tallest and becomes the tallest, but is in turn subdued and seduced by Irkin junkfood. He abandons his dreams for universal conquest and converts both Apokolips and the Irken empire into the greatest fast food franchise that could ever exist. “Darkseid is your restaurant of choice. You will love Darkseid with all your heart and give him your money so you may taste his glory“ The Skrull empire? Nope. The Shiar empire? Nada. Dementia five? No. Unicron? No chance. Galactus? He may be able to defeat them. Krypton? Depends on the era but in classic the Irken infiltrator is discovered once his legs snap from the gravity.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even most of the normal Irkens that arent a defect like Zim are moronic, especially the Tallest Red and Purple. Hell the entire IZ universe is full of morons with Membrane and Miyuki being the only exceptions (No wonder they fricked).

    Most of the popular Sci-Fi settings could beat them by virtue of not being snack obsessed idiots

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey, Red is somewhat reasonable

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alright i'll give him that, that one scene were the Massive is having a big problem actually shows his competence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJWlbzIkgDc

        Im pretty sure he does 99% of the work being the Emperor/Leader of the Irkens while Purple just acts like a snack obsessed moron

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah he was pretty moronic too. Being smarter than purple and Zim isn't saying much really.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Indeed they do

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No wonder they fricked
      Wait Membrane and Miyuki A: knew eachother and B: fricked? Is this real?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, but it's a common headcanon

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zim, Professor Membrane, and Gaz. Also themselves.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IZ and Halo would be a funny as frick crossover. I think most of the irkens are probably on par with an unggoy at best.
      Irkens might actually have better tech in some regards but I don't know the finer bits of Halo lore. I wonder what the covenant would think of them.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have pretty glaring weaknesses as a species
    >H20 is corrosive to their skin. Extremely abundant resource on our planet, at least.
    >Flagship that coordinates the entire armada has 2 massive weak points - We don't even have a single starship, so we're fricked there.
    >Most Irkens are incredibly arrogant - can be manipulated
    Humans couldn't defeat them, but other races would have a decent chance.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought the water hurt him because earth is a polluted shit hole. I haven't seen that episode in nearly two decades, though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, it's never implied to be more than just water cause he's an alien, see

        Same reason why actual meat melts his skin and he can only bear to be in contact with meat made out of napkins

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't their thing that they're incompetent?

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one but Zim.
    >Almost fricks up his entire planet on a giant robot because of his destructive nature catching him up
    >Nukes a vending machine because his candy couldn't fall (Causing tak to fail her exam and go to planet dirt to work as a janitor kek)
    >Caused a major blackout on an entire half of a planet because of noking the vending machine
    >went on a rampage on a frontline battlemech iv he "borrowed"
    >caused the destruction of a planet by literally scratching his butt
    >Caused the florpus, dookie loop, santa monster and tons of chaotic events
    >Fricking killed 4 tallests (collateral damage lol)
    Dude was fricking broken they had to exile him up somewhere lol

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Furons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, was about to mention them. They're literally lead by Zim but if he was competent and witty with words. I wanna see Orthopox roast the Tallest with Crypto.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zim beat them a few times on accident

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zim

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DAOT humanity

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jurai

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one man

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can't even handle Zim on his own that the alien had to make him delusional
      KEK, next joke pls.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lex Luthor can solo them. they're cripplingly reliant on their snack supply.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only any other Cinemaphile alien, yeah

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't come up often but even the most basic Irken pak is very powerful, it can generate an energy blast that carves through dozens of feet of Zim's base walls. He could one shot a space marine easily.

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