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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They moved onto the new kings of reddit. Bye bye goyan. The Daniels are here.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't surprise me if they also get offered a Star Wars movie that never happens.
      Seriously, what is going on at that studio that so many of the movies get cancelled before they even get off the ground? Have any of them ever even made it to pre-production? Have any of them even had a first draft of a script written?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        God I wanted to see gigantic so bad, but I know exactly why that was canceled they wanted to free up resources to shit frozen 2 out faster and then just blamed it on plot issues, there's no way they couldn't have made it work

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So what happened to all the money they gave him?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What money?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If he ever signed a contract to make them he'll get a nice payout for them backing out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Cool it with the anti semitism

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They didn't give him any money, he was working on spec. It's standard for Hollywood, nobody has money at risk, and they can reject with no legal complications. It's extremely common in Hollywood.
      He would have been paid when the scripts were green-lit and a budget attached.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Who did more harm to Nu Wars? JJ or Rian?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      JJ just set up a shit foundation. It could theoretically be salvaged by someone who really gave a damn.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >JJ just set up a shit foundation.
        He did but
        >It could theoretically be salvaged by someone who really gave a damn.
        this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        TFA was an annoying retread of ANH, but so was PM. Rian came in and took a big fat shit over everything almost as if he was trying to destroy the entire brand

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >It could theoretically be salvaged by someone who really gave a damn.

        Basically the Mandalorian

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The Mandalorian is going to shit because they're using it as a vessel to "fix" the sequel trilogy and set them up. There's no hope. This is a dead series.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The Mandoverse was legitimately fun for awhile.

          I legit liked Mayfield, Moff Gideon, Din Djarin, Fennec, Grogu, Luke being back. It had a nice little slice of the New Republic timeline and a decent core mythology and I enjoyed even the small stuck in a cave type episodes. But with S3 I’m not sure what I’m even watching anymore.

          It’s like they used the first 2 seasons to tell their story (and they were great). But then Iger or Kennedy called them in and demanded that now that the show is popular it NEEDS to be sacrificed at the alter of Rey Palpatine and the “Sequel” Trilogy. Every. Fricking. Time. Anything of value must serve the shitty Sequel Trilogy. Holy shit. Give it up, Disney.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Rogue Squadron was always pitched at Post RoS.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        His foundation was more mediocre rather than shit

        It became unsalvageable after episode 8

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It couldn’t be salvaged. The Force Awakens made the original trilogy obsolete by undoing all the progress made in those films and using the same premise as the first one again. No matter what they wanted to do with the sequels, you could never overcome the fact that your childhood heroes arbitrarily failed and Vader’s sacrifice was virtually pointless since the empire magically returned anyways. Star Wars fans need to grow up and stop blaming Rian Johnson for everything. The trilogy was worthless from the start.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That's fair. The trilogy was worthless from the start. It also gets worse as it goes. If the first movie shits on Vader's sacrifice then the last movie hits it with an Interstellar-style tidal wave of shit. The man that turned him from the honorable path, twisted his mind, caused him to kill his own wife, and then enslaved him for decades didn't actually die at his hand. No, he actually somehow survived and gets girl bossed by a chick whose neat trick is that she has two lightsabers and can plagiarize his last name.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >since the empire magically returned anyways. Star Wars fans need to grow up and stop blaming Rian Johnson for everything.

          Rian was the guy who made the empire magically return. The JJ-Kasdan concept for the First Order was "what if the Nazis hiding out in Argentina built an atomic bomb." They were supposed to be the rebels to the New Republic's galactic government. That's why it's Leia with a few squadrons of fighters in TFA, because the Republic didn't consider the FO a serious threat.

          but Rian couldn't think of a plot with that setting, so hey presto now suddenly 2 years later they're the Empire in control of the entire galaxy, and the Republic Navy is somehow 8 ships even though that makes no fricking sense at all

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            TLJ was only a week after TFA. The nu-Empire took over the galaxy in less then a week after they lost their Super Duper Death Star.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Jesus, it's even worse then.

              >a bunch of fanatics hiding out in the middle of nowhere built a superweapon and nuked the capital of the galaxy, what happens next?
              Rian:
              >oh wait they've also got like 10,000 ships and took over the entire galaxy apparently without a fight
              >because the government of the galaxy, who's been running everything for decades, somehow only had like 10 ships

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't even fully mesh with the "The New Republic demilitarized the shit out of their military in favor of having member worlds rely on local militias to defend themselves" handwave because that still suggests that every planet just rolled over for the First Order in spite of them losing the threat of the superweapon anyways.
                The "Nobody's answering our calls because they're too scared" shit could have easily been a "Frick off Leia, we got our hands full already".

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's completely moronic. It's a galaxy full of smugglers and bounty hunters and organized crime. If there wasn't a navy to enforce freedom of navigation, every trade route would be full of pirates just plundering the shit out of everybody

                Disney wants every single Star Wars project to be about resisting fascism, and it's hard to be a "Resistance" when you're backed by the government and your opponents are a fledgling group of terrorists.

                The absolute irony where corporate hack JJ Abrams had come up with a somewhat interesting universe concept and Rian "genius auteur" Johnson couldn't figure out how to tell a story in it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >JJ Abrams had come up with a somewhat interesting universe concept

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And if you think about it further, they lean into it even further in the last Mando episode by explaining just how much Imperial tech they're decommissioning, implying they did it with the surviving ships as well, instead of using it to bolster the navy. Nope, we're so committed to disarming ourselves so immediately after a 20 year galaxy-wide civil war for reasons unknown we're going to say no to a free fricking fleet. Makes no fricking sense.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Disney wants every single Star Wars project to be about resisting fascism, and it's hard to be a "Resistance" when you're backed by the government and your opponents are a fledgling group of terrorists.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The precise moment when I knew this movie was going to be shit.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >TLJ was only a week after TFA.
              Nope. It takes place immediately after TFA, like shortly after Rey tries to hand Luke his saber. TLJ takes place roughly over the course of 18 hours.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I guess you missed the part where the First Order destroyed the republic in TFA. They were already just Empire 2.0 in that movie and the only resistance for whatever fricking reason were a couple rebel armies in a civilization that supposedly has a trillion people

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >I guess you missed the part where the First Order destroyed the republic in TFA.

              They blew up 5 planets. The Republic is the entire galaxy. There would've been hundreds of Republic ships just policing trade routes

              >They were already just Empire 2.0 in that movie and the only resistance for whatever fricking reason were a couple rebel armies in a civilization that supposedly has a trillion people

              No, they weren't. They were the bad guys, but they were supposed to be a comparatively small group of fanatics who'd built a superweapon. Leia had a tiny army because the Republic didn't take the FO seriously as a threat, and just gave her some resources to shut her up.

              https://web.archive.org/web/20151018205158/http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=45203

              >Abrams gave some background on the state of the universe when The Force Awakens begins, including the origins of the First Order, who are not quite the Imperial remnant many had taken them to be.

              >“That all came out of conversations about what would have happened if the Nazis all went to Argentina but then started working together again?’” Abrams reveals. “What could be born of that? Could The First Order exist as a group that actually admired The Empire? Could the work of The Empire be seen as unfulfilled? And could Vader be a martyr? Could there be a need to see through what didn’t get done?”

              Rian couldn't figure that out though, so he just decided they were the Empire again and suddenly they have thousands of ships from somewhere and took over the entire galaxy in like 5 days somehow

              >the Republic Navy is somehow 8 ships even though that makes no fricking sense at all
              The was JJs doing in the first film. The scenes were cut but basically Mon Mothma demilitarised the new Republic lol
              It's expanded on in some Leia book that explained the tfa background that should have been in the film

              Yep they even mentioned something like the new republic starting to dismantle ships in the last mando episode, its so stupid

              I think that's desperate retconning to fix Rian breaking the universe

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I think that's desperate retconning to fix Rian breaking the universe
                I really don't care about Rian, it all predates his film anyway. SW under Disney is all shit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The 'former Empire becomes the resistance' angle would've been a much better spin for the nu trilogy.

                There are so many possible angles for it, even just the theme of "yesterday's young rebels are today's old establishment" with boomer heroes at the end of their lives, could've provided a great emotional core for a story.

                but no, Rian snaps his fingers and suddenly they're the Empire

                [...]
                >SW under Disney is all shit.

                How they managed to not screw up Andor, I will never know

                >They did nothing with any TLJ concept to be fair.

                That is because every TLJ concept was lame, gay, and staggeringly uninteresting. You have to be the most diehard copetastic Rianshill to think otherwise.

                The premise of a small group of imperial rebels destroying the capital of the republic with minimal resistance is fricking stupid. It doesn't matter that Rian Johnson made it even dumber. The conflict starting from TFA is fundamentally empire vs. rebels with a superweapon, thereby reversing all the consequences of the original trilogy.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              That’s like saying that the United States(military included) stopped existing just because you managed a one-off nuke on Washington.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the Republic Navy is somehow 8 ships even though that makes no fricking sense at all
            The was JJs doing in the first film. The scenes were cut but basically Mon Mothma demilitarised the new Republic lol
            It's expanded on in some Leia book that explained the tfa background that should have been in the film

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yep they even mentioned something like the new republic starting to dismantle ships in the last mando episode, its so stupid

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The JJ-Kasdan concept for the First Order was "what if the Nazis hiding out in Argentina built an atomic bomb."
            The 'former Empire becomes the resistance' angle would've been a much better spin for the nu trilogy. It could also tackle the idea of how the heroes from the original trilogy will address the issue and the morality of it now that they're the ones in charge and how they don't want to repeat the same mistake of what happened to the Jedi leadership in the prequels. Shame that many people just want the good guys to be the perpetual resistance these days.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry bro time for operation cinder 😉

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >The 'former Empire becomes the resistance' angle would've been a much better spin for the nu trilogy.

              There are so many possible angles for it, even just the theme of "yesterday's young rebels are today's old establishment" with boomer heroes at the end of their lives, could've provided a great emotional core for a story.

              but no, Rian snaps his fingers and suddenly they're the Empire

              >I think that's desperate retconning to fix Rian breaking the universe
              I really don't care about Rian, it all predates his film anyway. SW under Disney is all shit.

              >SW under Disney is all shit.

              How they managed to not screw up Andor, I will never know

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                We do know how they didn't screw up Andor. It's because they literally forgot about it and Tony Gilroy was basically doing the whole show without them checking in on him. He confirmed that himself.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                kind of the same way Picard season 3 has turned out so much better than the previous seasons

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >. It's because they literally forgot about it and Tony Gilroy was basically doing the whole show without them checking in on him. He confirmed that himself.

                lmao please tell me you have a link, that is so perfect

                Rian introduced the idea that both the resistance and First Order were basically just proxy armies fighting over nothing and receiving supplies and weapons from the same people. Then they did nothing with that concept.

                >Rian introduced the idea that both the resistance and First Order were basically just proxy armies fighting over nothing and receiving supplies and weapons from the same people. Then they did nothing with that concept.

                no he didn't, he had a line of dialogue where a character says "these guys are selling weapons to both sides :(" which was even more stupid and universe breaking

                the First Order was buying up a gigantic megafleet's worth of weapons, for years and years and years, and nobody noticed?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >the First Order was buying up a gigantic megafleet's worth of weapons, for years and years and years, and nobody noticed?
                The "Canon" says that the First Order compromised the Republic so badly that they made up one of the two political parties and then seceded. It's moronic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Leia noticed, hence she formed the resistance but no one took her seriously because they found out Vader was her daddy.
                She got some pity money to make a small group to compact a galactic threat kek

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Leia noticed, hence she formed the resistance
                Then this latest Mando episode made it so that she fights for a government that brainwashes people.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Based dinsey shitting on their young canon once again

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >a galactic threat

                nobody thought they were a galactic threat, that was the whole point. They were supposed to be the Nazis in Argentina

                >the First Order was buying up a gigantic megafleet's worth of weapons, for years and years and years, and nobody noticed?
                The "Canon" says that the First Order compromised the Republic so badly that they made up one of the two political parties and then seceded. It's moronic.

                >The "Canon" says that the First Order compromised the Republic so badly that they made up one of the two political parties and then seceded.

                oh god

                they could've just done the Thrawn trilogy, that would've been fine

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >they could've just done the Thrawn trilogy, that would've been fine
                They should've done that in the '90s.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >They were supposed to be the Nazis in Argentina
                But they were not. Maybe that's the intention of the film, but all expanded media showing the First Order shows otherwise, like BF2.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >but all expanded media showing the First Order shows otherwise,

                Rian, 2016:
                >nah i'm just going to make them the Empire
                Lucasfilm:
                >all you other guys, make that make sense somehow

                >Last Jedi released in 2017

                So is 6 years the minimum amount of time that is required to cancel something without it being too embarrassing? I imagine they know how badly Rian's trilogy would be received approximately a month after The Last Jedi was released but can't cut ties with Rian soon enough because that would be admitting their mistake.

                Probably because after 6 years of the message being "frick you, you're a Nazi if you don't like what we made, how dare you not buy tickets you fricking bigot scum" they're switching gears to "loyal and beloved fans, we have heard your voices and we want to make things you like"

                [...]
                [...]
                The premise of a small group of imperial rebels destroying the capital of the republic with minimal resistance is fricking stupid. It doesn't matter that Rian Johnson made it even dumber. The conflict starting from TFA is fundamentally empire vs. rebels with a superweapon, thereby reversing all the consequences of the original trilogy.

                >The premise of a small group of imperial rebels destroying the capital of the republic with minimal resistance is fricking stupid

                what, "terrorists with a nuke" has been a staple of thrillers for decades. What Rian did was start his movie the week after 9/11 and now Osama Bin Laden is President of the World

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >didn't read books or games that predate Johnson
                Jj shills are crazy mad

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >What Rian did was start his movie the week after 9/11 and now Osama Bin Laden is President of the World
                That movie was missing a sense of massive scale because everyone just gave up.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That is a great analogy.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >what, "terrorists with a nuke" has been a staple of thrillers for decades
                In the original trilogy the Death Star was the pinnacle of military technology and a huge expense for the entire empire. Starkiller base is even better than the death star, it's not like a suitcase nuke at all, it's closer to an entire nuclear arsenal which is not something a terrorist group could ever build themselves

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >In the original trilogy the Death Star was the pinnacle of military technology and a huge expense for the entire empire.
                It was also a story point that fit the galaxy.
                >REMEMBER ALDERAAN? YOU WILL SHUT UP AND OBEY THE EMPEROR.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Starkiller base is even better than the death star

                What, it's a giant gun cut into a planetoid. I mean we're arguing about imaginary space weapons, but the death star was an entire metal artificial moon built in empty space that could travel interstellar

                >they could've just done the Thrawn trilogy, that would've been fine

                That is still what they should do.

                >That is still what they should do.

                Well, it's what somebody else should do. Please not them

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >planetoid
                It's literally Ilum

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                YOU'RE literally Ilum

                Starkiller base can't move around iirc but it was able to destroy multiple planets simultaneously at a much greater distance than the Death Star, which arguably makes it more powerful

                true, that's a big ass gun

                The planet can travel. That's how the gun works.

                >The planet can travel. That's how the gun works.

                o rly, I thought it was the beam that went through hyperspace or whatever

                because otherwise Starkiller and Not Coruscant and the other Not Coruscants are all like right next to each other

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It has the big rockets to move but the gun is also op too. It consumes stars for energy

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Not Coruscant and the other Not Coruscants are all like right next to each other
                that's literally how it's shown in the movie, they are far closer than even interplanetary distance

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >>Not Coruscant and the other Not Coruscants are all like right next to each other

                J.J wanted to blow up Coruscant but Lucasfilm refused.

                J.J. has ONE hack trick that he uses to raise the stakes in every movie. Early in the every movie he will kill off a major character or blow up a major planet (Vulcan, Capt. Pike, Spock's mom) as a quick shortcut to raise the stakes without much creative effort.

                It takes some doing to be worse than J.J. who is a complete hack, but Rian manged to pull it off and was indeed worse.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >because otherwise Starkiller and Not Coruscant and the other Not Coruscants are all like right next to each other
                yeah the planets getting multi-lasered are so close together that they don't even make sense, and various people on other planets can see the laser and the explosion as if they're standing right there somehow.
                but I mean this was brought up by like everyone who reviewed the movie. even the *positive* reviews made fun of the "don't know how space works" shit in nu-trilogy. the old SW movies made a choice to handwave the physics; the new ones have never even heard the word. putting different planets in the same solar system a few thousand km apart isn't even on the top 50 list of stupidest things in these movies.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Starkiller base can't move around iirc but it was able to destroy multiple planets simultaneously at a much greater distance than the Death Star, which arguably makes it more powerful

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The planet can travel. That's how the gun works.

                Poopy poopy peepee

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The planet can travel. That's how the gun works.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Have gun, will travel.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The planet can travel.

                I am not in the J.J. is worse camp as Rian definitely worse. But that is not how Starkiller Base woks. The official explanation of it's operation is even lamer than you would think. The canon explanation is that the triple death rays fly through hyperspace. That is why they could blow up a set of planets in an entirely different solar system in a matter of minutes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                JJ literally, unironically has no idea how space, energy, light, and physics works. He did the exact same thing in Star Trek as

                >>Not Coruscant and the other Not Coruscants are all like right next to each other

                J.J wanted to blow up Coruscant but Lucasfilm refused.

                J.J. has ONE hack trick that he uses to raise the stakes in every movie. Early in the every movie he will kill off a major character or blow up a major planet (Vulcan, Capt. Pike, Spock's mom) as a quick shortcut to raise the stakes without much creative effort.

                It takes some doing to be worse than J.J. who is a complete hack, but Rian manged to pull it off and was indeed worse.

                mentioned. He likes to just randomly have planets be destroyed in the most ridiculously moronic manners possible, usually with some energy beam traveling at a million times the speed of light halfway across the galaxy to pinpoint hit a planet and start it imploding on itself, then people from hundreds of other planets, two hundred lightyears away all look up horrified as they observe the destruction of those planets in their own sky in real time

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You've been watching MauLer, haven't you?
                >Star Wars is a fantasy sci-fi.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No? I've just been utterly disgusted by JJ's treatment of some of my favorite franchises and yet people continue to eat it up for some reason and he gets to make yet more shit movies making them incredibly dumb compared to what came before. "Fantasy Sci-fi" doesn't mean it has to be completely idiotic. Original Star Wars and Star Trek were way smarter than JJ and audiences would have mocked him endlessly if his stupid movies had been made back then

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I've just been utterly disgusted by JJ's treatment of some of my favorite franchises and yet people continue to eat it up

                Not even shitposting I think the jig is up in Hollywood and it has become pretty obvious to everyone there that he is a hack. All of his latest deals have been falling through word is its because of the realization.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >"Fantasy Sci-fi" doesn't mean it has to be completely idiotic
                Yes it does
                >Original Star Wars was way smarter
                No it wasn't

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely correct.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >JJ literally, unironically has no idea how space, energy, light, and physics works.
                honestly for someone in the movie business not having at least some intuition for optics and newtonian physics is really criminal
                I guess it's not necessary anymore though because everything can be green screens and CGI

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                All he knows how to do is create lens flares but I highly suspect he adds them in post.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >JJ literally, unironically has no idea how space, energy, light, and physics works.
                honestly for someone in the movie business not having at least some intuition for optics and newtonian physics is really criminal
                I guess it's not necessary anymore though because everything can be green screens and CGI

                You do realize you're talking about Star Wars, right? The escapist fantasy that has never payed a single iota of attention to the concepts of physics or scientific accuracy at any point in its entire nearly fifty year existence?

                It's fine to complain about nu Trek making no sense but making the same complaints about nu Wars is like b***hing that fire is hot

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                show me something in the original trilogy that's as immersion breaking as the way Starkiller base is handled

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >show me something in the original trilogy that's as immersion breaking as the way Starkiller base is handled
                Le stormtrooper who bumped his noggin XD

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >crash into bridge of giant super star destroyer
                >this causes the giant ship to crash into the Death Star

                Looked cool but come on. If you blew up the bridge of an aircraft carrier it doesn't just sink.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The super star destroyer was plausible in that it was orbiting something with significant gravitational mass and when the A-wing crashed into its bridge, it wasn't able to re-establish control before it was drawn down into the surface.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Do stationary objects in space have any gravitational pull or would the Death Star need to be spinning for that to happen? Genuine brainlet question.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Did you miss the part where Ackbar tells everyone in the fleet to focus fire the SSD?
                >Y-Wings disabled shields
                >rebel capital ships are pummeling it
                >A-Wing pilot kills entire command crew in kamikaze attack
                >command tower belching flame and atmosphere as it falls into DSII

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How about instead you show me a single mention of the space mechanics and how literally any of them work in the original trilogy. Just one will do. Tell me, what do they use as fuel? How does their FTL work? How do their ships take off and land, since they clearly are seen doing so without the use of gravity or orbital mechanics? How do their ships and devices violate every single law of Newtonian physics? You can't break something that isn't there to begin with.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >$.003 has been deposited into your account

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                they are a space faring civilization, they have the technology to generate shitloads of energy and use it to levitate things around, and the audience will suspense their disbelief because that's how every space opera works and most don't know better anyway
                the problem with the starkiller base scene is that it violates not only the laws of physics, but common sense
                anyone who has looked at the sky before will know you can't see other planets in our solar system with the same clarity as our moon, much less planets orbiting other stars

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >they are a space faring civilization, they have the technology
                I asked for worldbuilding, not handwaving. You can't because it's not there.
                >anyone who has looked at the sky before will know you can't see other planets in our solar system with the same clarity as our moon, much less planets orbiting other stars
                or like when Leia, Tarkin and Vader watch Alderaan explode in real time?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >or like when Leia, Tarkin and Vader watch Alderaan explode in real time?
                When they're... in it's orbit?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                why is that planet so smug

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                if you invented big buts and rims you'd be smug too.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >or like when Leia, Tarkin and Vader watch Alderaan explode in real time?
                They didn't die from the recoil either.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >or like when Leia, Tarkin and Vader watch Alderaan explode in real time?
                they were on the death star, which was floating around Alderaan at the same distance as an orbiting moon

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They literally thought it was Alderaan's moon, one of the most famous quotes in movie history is based on that.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not that other Anon but let me try to clarify what he is trying to say. It's like in the final two seasons of GoT all of a sudden teleportation became a thing and all sens of travel went out the window because lazy writing. it's just easier to hadwaive and keep things moving than ding the hard dirty work of worrying about details.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                GOT is another great example of a fanbase turning on a show that wasn't very good to begin with.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >GoT was never good

                Don't cut yourself on that edge friendo.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not him, but I tried rewatching GoT last month and I couldn't even make it through the third season

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Serials aren't really made for rewatching. Standalone episodes are.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                fair

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >differing from popular consensus is automatically contrarian
                >you aren't allowed to form your own opinions, you have to be an NPC like me
                Don't look up in a rainstorm or you'll drown, newfriend.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >or like when Leia, Tarkin and Vader watch Alderaan explode in real time?
                This shit is the equivalent of the patrons of the Mos Eisley cantina running out and looking shocked when Alderaan gets destroyed.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Bingo.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >the audience will suspense their disbelief because that's how every space opera works and most don't know better anyway
                It's suspend, and that same excuse can be used for literally any movie ever

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Tell me, what do they use as fuel?
                Energy core with seemingly limitless power.
                >How does their FTL work?
                Plot a course and then go so fast the stars form a streak around you, you need a specific "Hyperspace Drive" to do this according to ESB.
                >How do their ships take off and land, since they clearly are seen doing so without the use of gravity or orbital mechanics?
                They have gravity mechanics as seen by the artificial gravity on the ships.
                > How do their ships and devices violate every single law of Newtonian physics?
                Super advanced.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Energy core with seemingly limitless power.
                How does it work? Who invented it? When?
                >Plot a course and then go so fast the stars form a streak around you
                That's a description of how it's used, not how it works.
                >They have gravity mechanics as seen by the artificial gravity on the ships.
                Ignoring for a moment that doesn't make any sense, how does said artificial gravity actually work? It's clearly not centrifugal force or any other known byproduct of physics. Is there even a single throwaway line in the entire trilogy devoted to any of this? No.
                >Super advanced.
                I asked for explanations, not shitty excuses. Or more specifically a single example of any of this being addressed in the original films even a single time by anyone. But you can't provide a single one because they don't bother, because Star Wars isn't science fiction.

                See in Star Trek there are entire episodes devoted to the warp drive, how it works, how it's powered, and there are even entire episodes of the series that revolve around how it operates and what happens when it encounters various malfunctions. Therefore, flushing all that down the toilet is a completely obscene and unforgivable sin that can be directly pointed at as a compelling reason why the Abrams Star Trek films are dogshit. Having whacky nonsense in a Star Wars movie is par for the course so it's moronic to complain about it, especially when there are plenty of other legitimate things to complain about.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >See in Star Trek there are entire episodes devoted to the warp drive, how it works, how it's powered, and there are even entire episodes of the series that revolve around how it operates and what happens when it encounters various malfunctions.
                And in the end it's just as handwavy as Star Wars because none of it is even close to being rooted in actual speculative science. Lucas knew to stick with the genre conventions the audience already understands and not bother explaining them more than absolutely necessary

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >none of it is even close to being rooted in actual speculative science
                Actually all of it is and you're completely wrong. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
                >Lucas knew to stick with the genre conventions the audience already understands and not bother explaining them more than absolutely necessary
                That's a needlessly convoluted way to say he pandered aggressively to mouth breathers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                explain to me the speculative science behind trilithium crystals and how star trek's warp drives don't violate causality
                or how someone can come out of the fricking holodeck
                or how they find enough energy to disassemble someone on a sub atomic level, take an amount of information that would be too large to be stored in the known universe, beam it somewhere else and then reassemble them

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >how star trek's warp drives don't violate causality
                >causality

                they're warp drives, which are theoretically possible today. All you need is a shitton of energy, say from a controlled matter/antimatter reaction. Star Trek has a fictional metal that bends space efficiently when you heat it up with hot plasma, but the physics behind it is 100% real.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

                >or how someone can come out of the fricking holodeck

                what

                >how they find enough energy to disassemble someone on a sub atomic level, take an amount of information that would be too large to be stored in the known universe

                this is silly. that amount of information exists trillions of times in the known universe, as for example you and I and every solid object

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Alcubierre briefly discusses some of these issues in a series of lecture slides posted online,[46] where he writes: "beware: in relativity, any method to travel faster than light can in principle be used to travel back in time (a time machine)". In the next slide, he brings up the chronology protection conjecture and writes: "The conjecture has not been proven (it wouldn't be a conjecture if it had), but there are good arguments in its favor based on quantum field theory. The conjecture does not prohibit faster-than-light travel. It just states that if a method to travel faster than light exists, and one tries to use it to build a time machine, something will go wrong: the energy accumulated will explode, or it will create a black hole."
                Even the guy who came up with the warp drive (which was inspired by Star Trek, not the other way around) has to resort to hand waving to deal with the causality issues of traveling faster than light

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Many worlds hypothesis already covers causality.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Many worlds hypothesis
                peak psuedo-physics

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It’s the leading contender for explaining how the double-slit experiment works.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >to deal with the causality issues of traveling faster than light
                Yeah. Under our current understanding of physics, FTL is effectively time travel.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >the science fiction show has technology that doesn't exist!!
                >how can you go faster than light? that's fiction!

                Alcubierre did a proof of a warp drive. Warp drive itself is older and is a direct answer to relativity. You bend space around a vessel, which therefore remains at rest in terms of local space, while the bubble itself travels faster than light. They invented a fictional metal which, when you heat it up, does this really well, which is what warp coils are made of. That's science fiction. However, the drives all work the same in every iteration and part of the universe.

                Same with the phasers, and transporters, and replicators, and the holodeck -- every aspect of them is explained and, while they rely on technology that doesn't exist yet, it's possible technology, and the way it works is consistent within the universe. Actually, how they work, or stop working, forms the plots of entire episodes.

                Star Wars is different. The technology is a dramatic device that just does what it needs to do for the purposes of the story. Hyperdrive makes you go to the next planet, the lightsaber cuts through people, the blasters are guns.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Actually all of it is and you're completely wrong. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
                Oh I'm sorry, I forgot "Graviton particles" that let you perfectly mimic gravity were a real thing.

                If only they had just used those instead of "Gravity stabilizers" used in Star Wars, it would've been so much more realistic!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >because none of it is even close to being rooted in actual speculative science

                Goddammit I TOLD YOU the full autismo thread is over there >>>>>>>>

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I can't be bothered to find it but there is an actual youtube video with a granular micro-detailed breakdown of every battle maneuver, tactic and fleet movement that was made at the battle of Wolf 359.

                That is the result of a universe with it's own internal consistency. Nerds care about stuff like that to varying degrees. But it is something that the likes of a J.J. Abra,s will never ever under stand or even care to understand why someone would care. It's the same with Nu Trek, which is run by a J.J. protoge'. To those types of people internal consistency is simply not a thing.

                With J.J. you get portable "trans warp transporters" built into your single seat skimmer ship that can instantly teleport you from Earth all the way to the Klingon Homeworld. (This actually happened in ST: Into Darkness)

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >(This actually happened in ST: Into Darkness)

                kek that was the best bit of JJ moronitude I'd ever seen. Why have spaceships?

                Of course then 80 minutes later they cured death with super blood

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Of course then 80 minutes later they cured death with super blood

                kek Holy hell I forgot about that one.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >How does it work? Who invented it? When?
                Someone, and I'm quoting ANH here, "Hundreds of years ago". I'm sticking to JUST the OT here, so no Prequel Shenanigans from me. Now, this establishes they've been space fairing for so long, they would no more be discussing who originally constructed it in casual conversation than you and I would who invented the boat, but how it works is portrayed onscreen. It doesn't require fuel, as nobody ever even questions refueling something like a small X-Wing sized starfighter despite it going in Hyperspace to a whole other system in Dagobah, so long as it has the "Hyperspace Drive" described in the movie, it seemingly can go forever, even after being submerged in a swamp or innards.
                >That's a description of how it's used, not how it works.
                How it works is simple acceleration, there's nothing more to describe than that.
                >Ignoring for a moment that doesn't make any sense
                Artificial gravity absolutely makes sense, we just don't know how Gravity itself functions on a macro scale or have the needed power to reduce it a micro scale yet.
                >how does said artificial gravity actually work?
                See the problem with this is, you're essentially doing what someone who doesn't understand a logic board asking how you fit a movie inside of a tiny box works, the characters can't describe a technology that is more advanced than what currently exists, but is theoretically possible. There is in fact a throwaway line about "Gravity stabilizers" in the original trilogy, how they function is not described.
                >how does said artificial gravity actually work?
                That was just being tongue in cheek, you whelp.
                > Or more specifically a single example of any of this being addressed in the original films
                They describe the logistics of hyperspace, they describe the mechanisms they use to achieve it, they describe other mechanisms used to replicate things like gravity and that they can be turned off. It's not realistic, but it has rules.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >that's as immersion breaking as the way Starkiller base is handled
                Starfighters would not work like planes or make sound in space.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Even fictional universes have their own rules. They don't have to match up with the real world. They simply have to be internally consistent. That is part of the fun.

                The problem is for someone like J.J. that shit is for nerds. Like "Frick that shit. We've got to keep things moving and I don't have time for that nerd shit."

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Star Wars never had any rules, is the point. What are they? When are they established or mentioned?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You are clearly in the wrong thread. This is the mild autism thread. The full blown autism thread is over there >>>>>>>>>

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The Force is in everything (Obi-Wan Ep IV: A New Hope, Yoda Ep V: The Empire Strikes Back, Qui Gon Jinn Ep I: The Phantom Menace)
                Hyperspace travel is precise and dangerous (Han Solo Ep IV: A New Hope)
                The Dark Side is an unnatural corruption of The Force (Obi-Wan Ep IV: A New Hope, Yoda Ep V: The Empire Strikes Back, Yoda Ep VI: Return of the Jedi)
                The Kessel Run cannot typically be completed in under 12 parsecs (Han Solo Ep IV: A New Hope)
                These technological terrors you construct are insignificant next to the power of the Force (Darth Vader Ep IV: A New Hope)
                It's wise to let wookiees win (Han Solo Ep IV: A New Hope)

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks. I was too lazy to reply to that Anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It’s fricking infuriating how dumb and lazy he really is.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                "It is very much — and it's acknowledged as such in the movie — apparently another Death Star. But what it's capable of, how it works, and what the threat is, is far greater than what the Death Star could have done. Starkiller Base is another step forward, technologically speaking, in terms of power."
                ―J.J. Abrams, on the similarities and differences between the Death Stars and Starkiller Base[src

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Not Coruscant and the other Not Coruscants are all like right next to each other
                that's literally how it's shown in the movie, they are far closer than even interplanetary distance

                It has the big rockets to move but the gun is also op too. It consumes stars for energy

                lord, I hate JJ Abrams. It's amazing that Rian managed to somehow be dumber

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >they could've just done the Thrawn trilogy, that would've been fine

                That is still what they should do.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I've had enough deepfake trash.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Who said anything about deepfake?

                Have Pixar do it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                An animated movie would be better, but they'd never do it that way. They'd try their damnest to maximize the memberberries.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2022/10/andor-tony-gilroy-says-lucasfilm-left-them-to-do-the-show-they-wanted.html

                This article takes the bits from a longer interview about it basically explaining how Lucasfilm pretty much left him alone.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nope.

                I would bet anything in the world that Andor Season 2 will be all about setting up LE SEQUELZ TRILOGY, just like Mando season 3. Kathleen Kennedy is a fanatic

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I would bet anything in the world that Andor Season 2 will be all about setting up LE SEQUELZ TRILOGY
                Gilroy already said that it was going to lead into Rogue One. That movie featured the lightspeed tracking in The Last Jedi.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Shame that many people just want the good guys to be the perpetual resistance these days.

              Yeah the “Permanent revolution”. Pure Marxist horseshit.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The JJ-Kasdan concept for the First Order was "what if the Nazis hiding out in Argentina built an atomic bomb." They were supposed to be the rebels to the New Republic's galactic government.
            and if that was the movie they'd made, maybe it would have been salvageable. but that's not what the FO is in TFA at all, when all was said and done, so what difference does it make?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >It could theoretically be salvaged by someone who really gave a damn.
        It really couldn't. There was no way to salvage it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not with the schedule they were working on. Second film had to start production as soon as the first one come out. To go back to the drawing board and figure shit out would take time.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      JJ killed star wars and star trek.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      JJ just set up a shit foundation. It could theoretically be salvaged by someone who really gave a damn.

      jj just did fan service and only brainlets want that. rian did shit service.
      but frick them anyway; nobody should milk old franchises; only the first movie is a 10/10.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        > first movie is the best
        So you're the other guy.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >nobody should milk old franchises
        I think some franchises that are presented as worlds more than individual stories are allowed to just go on forever as long as the creators don't reuse the same exact shit over and over.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      jj cant do shit with anything

      at least rian johnson took it upon himself to write his own script and offered something new instead of rehashed shit from 20+ years ago

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >and offered something new
        if you are a woke ass NPC anything 'new' you offer will be worthless. see all the trash he made after

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          rian killed off the new emperor and the new vader - cuz who needs that shit? lets go with something new here. i commend rian for doing this. straight up BRAVO

          but then jj reinstated them because of the homosexuals known as the "hardcore fans" started screaming and shouting while dilating their tiny wieners due to having their theories subverted

          seriously, FRICK the hardcore fans and FRICK the incompetent writers and directors who think they can take the helm of this ip and do nothing but backtrack to what george lucas did years ago

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Kek, you're such a fricking moron. And you're as bad as Rian with such unfounded arrogance thinking you're oh so smart. You two uberhomosexuals deserve each other.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They should have told Rian there was still a movie after TLJ. Both TFA and TLJ are made as if it was final. JJ made Rey beat the villain in rheir rirst fight. Rian killed the master villain and had the villain lose to
            Rey again...

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Rey is the black hole at the center of Disney Star Wars…everything of value vanishes in service of her, and nothing of value comes out the other side. It’s wild watching Disney spend a decade trying to make this a thing

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This. And for everyone who tries to lay it off on sexism, no. She’s just a terrible character.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This. And for everyone who tries to lay it off on sexism, no. She’s just a terrible character.

                Characters that can't lose are boring. Three movies she never got a scratch.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >and offered something new
        I too was stunned by the brand new storyline of a young would-be jedi going to a deserted planet in order to find an old master to train them but the old master isn't what they expected and didn't want to train them until convinced so by a blue transparent ghost from their past so the master has them do some vague exercises and then puts them in a spooky cave that shows a vision that might be connected to the plot but then the new jedi gives into their dark temptations in the spooky cave which upsets the master but then the jedi gets visions from across the galaxy and now knows their friends are in danger so they ignore the master's plea and heads off to confront the fallen darkside apprentice who serves a crikly old darkside master who sits on a throne surrounded by red guards and the jedi and fallen apprentice have a talk in an elevator as the fallen apprentice brings the jedi to their crinkly master and then the evil master shows the jedi their friends getting destroyed out in space and this sets off the jedi who is overwhelmed and it looks like the jedi is about to be killed but right before they can be the fallen darkside apprentice turns on his master and kills them.

        Oh and somewhere in the movie there's a battle on an all white planet where the rebels are holed up in a base under attack and have to use local vehicles to try to fight off the four legged walking giant tank things that start with AT and then escape just in the nick of time in the Millennium Falcon specifically.

        What a new, fresh, never before seen storyline!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you are NOT as massive homosexual Anon.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          this wouldnt have been the case if rian had first crack at it and thats the truth

          he had to work with sloppy story that went no where, just like LOST

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes, there was NO OTHER OPTION for the jedi master on the deserted planet BUT to be nothing like the plucky young jedi expected and also reluctant to train them unless someone with a specific blue coloration and a specific level of transparency convinced them and also no other choices for training but a spooky cave that shows a bunch of vague images.

            If only he hadn't been so cornholed by the plot of "Jedi master on a planet who LEFT A MAP TO HIS LOCATION AND IT'S THE WHOLE FRICKING PLOT OF THE FIRST MOVIE"

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              another emperor...

              another vader...

              another apprentice who has to learn how to use the force...

              who wants to see that shit?

              its fricking old shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              now, lets see a group of people try to handle a lightsaber who has no idea how to use it - itll be like a child trying to control an m16 while firing in his tiny little arms

              THAT is what a lightsaber does to a person who has no idea of how to effectively control it

              again, these hacks have nothing new to offer to the table, and these bigger homosexual fans have no idea what it is as to what they want

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not defending TLJ's particular choices, but I don't think a good explanation for Luke was possible.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >at least rian johnson took it upon himself to write his own script and offered something new instead of rehashed shit from 20+ years ago
        Dude, unironically you have to return to reddit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      JJ made goyslop.
      Rian made goy slop.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone who says Rian is a braindead Black person. JJ ruins everything he touches, and Star Wars was no different.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rian Johnson. JJ isn't smart enough to actually ruin Star Wars, but Rian created a piece of meta-slop that wasted everyone's time. Not only is it a terribly structured movie (setup/subversion ad nauseum, multiple endings, etc), but it's hardly even a Star Wars movie.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There is nothing seriously wrong with the Force Awakens. It's a mediocre rehash of a new hope, it's fine for what it was.
      TLJ literally made people quit being star wars fans, it was that fricking bad.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >There is nothing seriously wrong with the Force Awakens.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This. You can say TFA sucks for being a rehash but basically you’re just saying making no a sequel trilogy is dumb in general the movie itself isn’t offensively bad unless the rest of the trilogy sucks. Should they have planned out all three movies from the start or maybe simply not have done a direct sequel to the originals? Probably. But could a decent Star Wars trilogy exist with TFA as the first movie, definitely, had the answers to Al of TFA questions been really great and interesting the trilogy could have been acceptable.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Generic as shit soft reboot full of idiotic lore breaking autism

      vs

      >Literally one of the worst big budget movies ever made

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        let's be honest, they were both soft reboots of the first two movies. TLJ was almost beat for beat ESB but with a few scenes rearranged so they could claim it wasn't. It's literally why they have to explicitly say "it's salt!" so they can claim it's different from ESB while being exactly the same visually

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You’re doing autism a disservice. Autism is lore-preserving. Abrams is just a sociopathic conman trading on Spielberg’s image.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      JJ is the hackest fraud, sorry RLM

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Jar Jar killed it. Johnson dug it up, burned it, and pissed on its ashes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the ONLY film of the new trilogy worth watching is 8. if you've seen 4 you've seen 7 but better, and 9 is unsalvageable. 8 has issues but at least Rian did what he wanted.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Strong case for JJ since he was the one who threw out George’s plan for 7, 8, and 9 and decided a soft reboot would be better. Rian isn’t blameless though

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >he was the one who threw out George’s plan for 7, 8, and 9
        Is this the one where Han Solo's son gets corrupted by a hot Twilek sith seductress?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Idk i just know it was about the whills and microbiota and daisy Ridley would have played a different character, Luke’s daughter, and they were gonna go scuba diving together at some point

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, because the "Whills" would've been "so much better," right?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      As far as the sequels go tfw>tlj>ros
      TFA was as safe of a movie they could have done, which was pretty expected, could have done something a bit more interesting but maybe Disney had him by the balls. Also visually it wasn't all that impressive, somehow one of the most expensive movies ever made looks like a TV show at times.
      TLJ could have also done anything new but decided to not really do anything, part of that could be blamed with having to follow up tfa. I didn't mind some of the "subversions" like killing off nuemporer or rey being a nobody cause those were dumb to begin with, but overall it was pretty much a waste. I guess people praise the visuals but I don't really remember it looking all that great either
      RoS was probably the worst movie in the series, though they did have to juggle between the split fanbase and other issues like a geriatric cokehead surprisingly dying before production

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say JJ did
      Rian blew it up, but JJ supplied the dynamite by giving Rian absolutely no direction
      JJ was too fricking lazy to have even the barest of a plan

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The gaslighters will tell you J.J. did more harm even though it's just Rianshills stirrring the pot and muddying the waters. TFA was a giant meh but everybody was still excited to see what was inside his lame mystery box. It was Rian that put a milky turd in the box just for keks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      JJ somehow

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      JJ. Easy. Rian made a good movie with a terrible foundation.
      If you don't believe me, forget everything that happened in the first one and watch it in a vacuum or as a sequel to ep 6.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        TLJ had a bunch of laughable and ugly characters going on pointless side missions, and nothing was accomplished within the movie as a singular piece
        people who were already good guys reaffirm their good guy status through such means as "I won't murder anyone" and "I agree that slavery is bad"

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Rian made a good movie

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >If you don't believe me, forget everything that happened in the first one and watch it in a vacuum or as a sequel to ep 6.

        Alright, if it's a sequel to six

        >Still a terrible rehash of a movie I already saw done better in Empire and ROTJ, just genuinely awful.

        Or, completely on it's own.
        >The slowest chase in movie history is also made moot by the fact that they sneak off the ship. So not only is the chase not fun, not exciting, now it doesn't even make sense.
        >The entire Canto Bright subplot is fricking moronic and filled with so many contrivances to make it work it's baffling. Let's just put aside their entire side is currently being hunted down and could potentially be dying, and they decide to say "Frick it" and help out a bunch of animals, let's ignore them leaving SLAVE CHILDREN behind to put animals in a forest they were presumably taken from in the first place, it actually makes the whole thing extra pointless because they say it's bad because these people are war profiteers who "Sell to both sides" because war is good and then after that moronic subplot they go back to fighting with one of the two sides that is apparently making these people rich. What a great theme we forgot about.
        >If you hadn't seen the previous movie you would never know why Rey is so standoffish to Kylo, if you have it's fricking baffling why she's acting like this guy that just MURDERED HIS FATHER IN FRONT OF HER is getting snippy little comments like he pulled her hair one time, when she's not blushing over his, uh... "bod"?
        >Luke's entire buildup is to "Slightly stall them after most of them are dead, stopping nothing, accomplishing nothing, and leaving the First Order to go and kill again."
        >The Throne Room fight is one of the worst choreographed fights in history, provably just by the fact that you are challenged, outright, to find another one so badly directed they had to edit out a weapon mid-attack
        I don't even have room for Snoke, it's that bad.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You're forgetting one other thing.
          >If the First Order ran that decloaking scan constantly or looked out of the window, they win.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Luke's entire buildup is to "Slightly stall them after most of them are dead, stopping nothing, accomplishing nothing, and leaving the First Order to go and kill again."

          It’s hilarious how much Kathleen wouldn’t let Luke do ANYTHING in his own sequel trilogy. It was unnaturally cruel. Never forget this shit… when she’s gone soon and Lucasfilm is fumbling around trying to figure out a direction that Kennedy intentionally pulled her pants down and shit all over Luke. And she hired that little fricking circle-skulled pansy Rian to be her beta hit boy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      thats it ignore the elephants in the room

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hey it's those white slavers George told us about.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Probably JJ.
      People forget how insulting and damaging TFA was to the OT characters. TLJ was a lot more naked and obvious with it's iconoclasm but TFA was every bit as guilty.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's good that han died
        Get over it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I love how you disneybots jump to the most insane conclusions and immediately put words in anyone's mouth.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are people so stupid they forget the sentiments surrounding these movies as they were releasing? It wasn't that long ago
      >JJ TFA
      rehash and/or ripoff of ANH, nice to see practical effects and potentially interesting cast of characters, potential for some good stories involving them.
      BoX ooooo
      and bland foundation for trilogy established, could have gone lots of ways. Evil Rey and redeemed Kylo, maybe? Eh?
      overall but the door was wide open
      vs
      >Rian TLJ
      on Luke
      >>girl power purple hair
      RAMMING

      >>frick star wars fans
      >>kill the past
      >>salt planet
      >>META

      Rian Cuckson actively sought to run his dick all over star wars and he did so successfully. JJ might be a goddamn hack but at least his goal was not to literally get back at fat nerds that went to stat wars conventions because they said things he didn't like on the webz. He did the antithesis of fan service. Deliberately.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the door was wide open
        No it wasn't. It's been almost 10 years, you should know by now that this mindset was just hype at the time. The characters in the sequels were always shit aside from Kylo and had no potential for anything.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >aside from Kylo
          he was fricking gay as frick too, stop making equivocations for bullshit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >but at least his goal was not to literally get back at fat nerds that went to stat wars conventions
        JJ is well-meaning, but several of his choices in TFA left no options for Rian.
        >Luke had to show up during the forest fight in order for it to go well for him.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think Johnson was trying to be sinister or anything, either. Whether it hits the target or not, the overall message of the movie is trying to be uplifting. Luke included.

          You're right that TFA backed Luke in particular into a corner. There isn't an explanation for Luke's island vacation that would've made much sense.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't think Johnson was trying to be sinister or anything, either.
            That's why my real problem is with the chase. The First Order could have won outright if they weren't stupid.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              A lot of TLJ's worst parts are plot threads completely of its own making.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think that they're all concentrated in the chase and the lack of scale.
                >If the New Republic was engaged and could barely help, that'd be something.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >>I don't think Johnson was trying to be sinister or anything, either.

              This is because you are naive and have the intellectual capacity of a small child.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Small children imagine bogeymen, like you've turned Johnson into. He's a shitty writer, but it's not that hard to trace his intent. Even Luke is depicted as an inspirational icon even if it's nonsensical. It's just a bad movie.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't think Johnson was trying to be sinister or anything,

            TLJ was borne from a spark of SEETHING jealousy and hate by two people. There is nothing innocent or accidental about it. Rian was jealous G.L. and thought he could make a better Star Wars than the guy who created it. Absolute hubris in its truest form was R.J. Meanwhile K.K. was simply playing the long game the whole time until she got enough credibilty, freedom and power from the box office success of TFA. Once all the pieces fell into place the mask came off and she didn't have to hide the fact that she secretly hated G.L. and everything about Star Wars the whole time.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >There is nothing innocent or accidental about it.
              Most of it is or came about because of choices made in TFA.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                but TFA sets up, intentionally or otherwise, Rey turning evil and Kylo turning good, as well as Rey being Obi-wan's daughter or granddaughter, which Johnson ignored

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >as well as Rey being Obi-wan's daughter or granddaughter
                That would have been extraordinarily moronic, to be fair.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                that doesn't change the fact that TFA had an sound-alike voice of Obi-wan specifically talking to Rey, which went nowhere

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >That would have been extraordinarily moronic, to be fair.
                Not after TCW made Obi-Wan stud six copypasted "Mandolorian" b***hes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Don't worry, Obi Wan is gay now. He would never have a daughter.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Are you bigoted against the male alien womb havers?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Most of it is or came about because of choices made in TFA.

                You are either a flat out liar or flat out moronic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You are either a flat out liar or flat out moronic.
                Luke was trapped on that island because they didn't want him to show up during the Starkiller Base fight.

                No? I've just been utterly disgusted by JJ's treatment of some of my favorite franchises and yet people continue to eat it up for some reason and he gets to make yet more shit movies making them incredibly dumb compared to what came before. "Fantasy Sci-fi" doesn't mean it has to be completely idiotic. Original Star Wars and Star Trek were way smarter than JJ and audiences would have mocked him endlessly if his stupid movies had been made back then

                >Original Star Wars
                The firing of the Death Star's laser would have killed everyone onboard or at least made the whole thing spin around like crazy.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Inertial dampeners and artificial gravity are both staples of Star Wars. It’s easy for a watcher to imagine how the “science” works. A self-splitting, superluminal death ray whose destruction is instantaneously visible from light years away? Not so much. Under Lucas, Star Wars had rule-of-cool stuff heavily governed by longstanding sci-fi conventions. JarJar is so arrogant and stupid that he doesn’t even know what unspoken rules he’s breaking.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              If you genuinely believe any of that it's because you are a crazy person

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Muh gaslighting.

                Nice try Rianshill.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That's not what gaslighting is, schizo.

                Everyone was complaining that TFA was a carbon copy of ANH, so RJ and co tried to listen. Fans hated that too because they hate everything that isn't soulless pandering like Rogue One or Mando. Don't get me wrong, TLJ is by no means a good movie, but that has almost nothing to do with why the fans didn't accept it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                But TFA was soulless pandering that most of the fans, even the majority of the ones who would later shit on TLJ liked
                I didn't mind TFA because I was naïve enough to think it was a set up for something different
                TLJ wasn't something different, it was nothing, nothing happens in the movie. Even Luke dying doesn't matter because he wasn't in the last movie and he doesn't nothing in TLJ
                It's not complicated

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's not complicated which is why it's so frustrating that you constantly lie and misrepresent the truth to push a transparently false narrative. TFA was hated by a hefty portion of the fanbase and everyone knows it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Cinemaphile isn't a hefty portion of any fanbase
                you're thinking like a twitter-addict

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not even just the fanbase. "Haven't we seen this before but better?" was the thesis of a lot of reviews. "Glib facsimile" became a brief meme.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Your reply is the actual definition of gaslighting. Look it up.

                Besides
                >Everyone was complaining that TFA was a carbon copy of ANH, so RJ and co tried to listen. Fans hated that too because they hate everything that isn't soulless pandering like Rogue One or Mando. Don't get me wrong, TLJ is by no means a good movie, but that has almost nothing to do with why the fans didn't accept it.

                This is just cope for making a shitty movie.

                >BAWWW there is no pleasing the fans I simply gave them what they asked for!

                Absolute...fricking....cope.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Your reply is the actual definition of gaslighting. Look it up.
                No, it actually isn't.
                >This is just cope for making a shitty movie.
                But Star Wars fans love shitty movies. TLJ being shitty clearly was not the problem.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dave Filoni stabbed it in the heart the moment his lips touched George Lucas' unwaxed butthole. But JJ put the final nails in the coffin with TFA. Also them

      thats it ignore the elephants in the room

      but it wouldn't have been possible without the golem cowboy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Definitely Rian. JJ's movie was shit, but the idiot fans were still lapping it up. Rian crashed the franchise with no survivors.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Rian crashed the franchise with no survivors
        so you're telling me he's extremely based?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Abrams, no question. TFA was a big dead end. It was a zombie.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The current situation of the economy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Both honestly

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >JJ or Rian?
      Trick question.
      The real answer is Kathleen Kennedy & Bob Iger. Rian & JJ were the collective symptom of the former's idiotic decisions.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We got too wienery, subversionrbros.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This headline may be fake but the truth still stands

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Patty Jenkins and Taika's too apparently. Star Wars has become a purely Disney+ franchise.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not surprising. They need to build goodwill toward the franchise back up before they can expect asses in seats.
      Mandalorian was the one step forward, Booba and Obi-Wan were the two steps back.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the sequels were DOA, since the cycle was already complete with the originals and the terrible prequels

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, the circuit was complete as soon as Vader and Obi wan crossed blades on the death star. Everything after that moment has been masturbatory and redundant.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The prequels were brilliant.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Guarantee you that Taika Cohen one gets cancelled and I'm relatively sure the Lindelof one will too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        JJ just set up a shit foundation. It could theoretically be salvaged by someone who really gave a damn.

        The Lost mob has plenty of corpses from successful franchises

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        The Lost mob has plenty of corpses from successful franchises

        Lindelof said he doesn't know whether it's happening or not look it up

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Stop making Star Wars shit, please. Everything since 1983 has been awful. And outside of Gen X nostalgia and 70s kitchiness it wasn't really all that good to begin with.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything since 1983 has been awful

      Untrue, many great video games and novels came out.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    fantastic news
    dude couldn't direct a marching band down a straight road

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Oh really? I wonder when that happened!

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing about that in the Twitter account that you posted. Fake screenshot.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      FAKE

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        but enough about you

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          For being internet detectives, I expected better witticisms than "I know what you are but what I'm I?"

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    FAKE

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Next up the Eclipse game will get cancelled

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I thought Eclipse got shadow-cancelled a few weeks ago around when the Feige and non-existent Jenkins film were cancelled.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"Oh what's that? You don't get a trilogy? Call me when you have 2, Rian, or even a succesful franchise to speak of."
    >"Oh, what's that? They say you can't write? Rian, I fricking hate writing yet I did it all by hand and finished what I started instead of smashing my forehead into my Nintendo Switch. Half of its bullshit baby-babble anyway, Rian. People are STILL asking me what the "heyblibber Jar-Jar crashed into' was. Its frickin' simple!"
    >"Oh what's that? You have latent underlying daddy issues? So does Steven, but he manages to work them out creatively and thematically instead of you trying to work them out like working out a hemorrhoid with a pencil."
    >"Oh what's that? You had to cast an ugly Asian to commemerate and compensate for the ugly Asian who wouldn't frick your round-headed ass in high school just like that Asian actress you casted wouldn't frick you then? Bruh...I smashed Nat's pussy here harder than I smashed my first car up."
    >"Oh what's that? You had a multibillion dollar monster financing your movie and people hated it and forgot about it immediately like a bad smell while my first movie of that franchise was made with less money than a modern day Superbowl commercial?"
    >"Oh what's that? You actually have to have shills and Disney mom's defend your waste of digital memory card space movies online while you blatantly insult and demean fans instead of just making a good and enjoyable movie that stands on its own merit?"
    >"Oh what's that? You instead shat all over the floor instead of doing what JJ and Kathleen wanted which is to have Rey blacked onscreen so you decided to make Star Wars: The Autistic Meltdown" instead of being a man and walking away?"
    >"Oh what's that? Not even waste dumps want anymore piles of Finn action figure toys but everyone still wants N-1 Starfighter toys?"
    >"Oh what's that? You call me an idiot for selling it and leaving Kathleen in charge while you're the idiot who bought into her bullshit and took orders from her?"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't say that

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they couldve at least taken a king arthur's approach to the lightsaber where only those who can channel the light side of the force can wield it

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In a world that had any justice, he would have been gutted for The Last Jedi. I hope nothing but bad things happen to him. I hope he bites his lip the next time he's chewing on a piece of food. I hope there comes a time when he apologizes for his actions and the world collectively says frick you. I will savor his death when that day comes.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because of star wars' problems not rian's problems

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A chase scene where people leave the chase, go to a casino planet for a stupid fricking side romp of no actual consequence, to come back to the active chase scene has to be the dumbest bit of plotting to ever be put to film. Johnson should feel nothing but shame.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No shit it only took them 6 years to admit it's not actually happening.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Rian's trilogy was axed the minute TLJ followed up the biggest opening week for a sequel ever with the biggest second week drop for any film, ever

    aka a whole lot of asses hit seats to see what happened next after TFA, and almost all of them left TLJ and did not come back. Studio guys may not be geniuses, but the receipts don't lie.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not only didn't come back, but distinctly told everyone they knew that it was garbage and not to bother. Which also directly harmed any chance a third film had. Rian's colossal frickup has cost disney billions in potential as their prize franchise was made completely unmarketable for years. He should be paying them at this point

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Lord knows that's what I did. About halfway through TLJ I realized "this guy actually wants to make people suffer for liking the franchise he's doing an installment of"

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I distinctly remember having that sinking feeling in my stomach I get during bad movies. and getting the urge to walk out during the camel chase scene. But I stayed out of some weird sense of loyalty to the franchise. Like walking out of a Star Wars movie would be unthinkable.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            When the film kept on going after its ending when the lightsaber breaks that was the moment I checked out of thr franchise.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the camel chase scene.
            It felt like shit from AOTC. I don't know what Johnson was thinking.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >SEEETHING G.L hater blows up the biggest money making franchise of all time in one fell swoop.

    Gee I wonder why he didn't get that trilogy gais??

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There will be no SW films for a decade. It's a dead brand. Even new Mandalorian is DOA.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I literally made this thread earlier today and got no replies, I fricking hate you guys

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      sorry fren

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry I missed it, fren.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry Anon. I woulda shitposted in it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      sorry, I was too busy shitpost earlier :^(

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what we drinking tonight, Rianbros?

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Only the fanatics will be surprised.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like Disney Hates Real Kino

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >another shill tweet from discussingfilm
    It's crazy how Cinemaphile is exclusively their only revenue stream

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Coming as a shock to literally no one. Except maybe moron Johnson himself.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I always found it funny how he calls fans who don't like his shit star wars movies manbabbies when he literally looks like a man baby

    rip bozo

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think they'll double down. Cancelling Rian's project is to allocate more funding to their next big shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No I think they're honestly done.
      They have four projects they should just focus on. All films are canned, again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Disney Plus forever and the EA deal ends this year. Star Wars is going to go back to how it was before Disney but lower quality. Tons of cartoons and hopefully a bunch of videos games. They can't make a profit on the live action stuff.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The EA deal expired long ago

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It was a 10 year deal signed in 2013. The deal is technically still in place but Disney is trying to reopen Lucasarts and have them publish games like the old days but all those projects have fallen through. So far all the real Star Wars games since 2013 have all been EA. When the deal is totally over then Disney can use Lucasarts or just approach Activision, Microsoft, Sony etc to publish for Star Wars as they please.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What about the Ubisoft game?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It's published under nu Lucasarts. Ubisoft would be contracted as the developer. That's the loophole Disney very recently set up when they rebooted Lucasarts.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lol these shitdicks left GoT hanging to do Star Wars and ended up directing a Leslie Jones standup special instead.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Disney Star Wars is so bad its reach can even frick up an HBO show. Disney is seriously the worst company in entertainment.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was never real. Same as GOT's creators Star Wars, Lando prequel, lady ghosbuters etc. It's always a marketing ploy to signify "we love the last jedi so much, everyone loves it, it's making bank, we're already making new ones, come see what the buzz is about"

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    no shit they did
    they did years ago and were just too afraid to say it because they wanted to keep playing like everything was fine

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Rian Johnson SW trilogy got axed
    at last proof that TLJ was utter total shit.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Rian introduced the idea that both the resistance and First Order were basically just proxy armies fighting over nothing and receiving supplies and weapons from the same people. Then they did nothing with that concept.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They did nothing with any TLJ concept to be fair.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >They did nothing with any TLJ concept to be fair.

        That is because every TLJ concept was lame, gay, and staggeringly uninteresting. You have to be the most diehard copetastic Rianshill to think otherwise.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Please respond

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >muh force dyad
          >muh insert for girl I had a crush on in highschool gets blacked
          >muh sacred Jedi texts
          >muh little kid with a Rebel alliance ring using the force on a broom
          >muh rich casino planet that enslaves space horses
          >muh salt planet

          It really doesn't end with that movie does it?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Holy cow all those unanswered questions. I'm on the edge of my seat.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly. And all of that literal nothing is brought up in the middle of a fricking trilogy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Rian introduced the idea that both the resistance and First Order were basically just proxy armies fighting over nothing and receiving supplies and weapons from the same people.

      Yeah that concept would have made BILLIONS if done right Rian.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Remember Benico del toro and how important his character was in the 9th film?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Remember Benico del toro and how important his character was in the 9th film?

        The franchise literally memorynoled his character it was so bad. Like zero redeeming qualities about the character at all. 100% created by Rian.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rian also did nothing with the concept. His movie still frames the war as the be-all end-all fight for the future of the galaxy. A single scene that doesn't impact any character or story beat is hardly "introduced the idea." It was a vain attempt to add depth and nuance.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >sheev is the magical space Raytheon
      >Ray Palpatine

      It’s like poetry

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What’s amazing is that every one of these hyped producers is only there because their parents were Goldman Sachs execs and could afford to finance anything they wanted or to buy them a chair at a studio.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >“They looked at the stories, and they said, ‘We want to make something for the fans,’” Lucas said. “They decided they didn’t want to use those stories, they decided they were going to do their own thing. … They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway — but if I get in there, I’m just going to cause trouble, because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore, and all I would do is muck everything up,” he said. “And so I said, ‘OK, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way.’”
    >“I sold them to the white slavers that takes these things, and…”

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      George telling it like it is.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Last Jedi released in 2017

    So is 6 years the minimum amount of time that is required to cancel something without it being too embarrassing? I imagine they know how badly Rian's trilogy would be received approximately a month after The Last Jedi was released but can't cut ties with Rian soon enough because that would be admitting their mistake.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's enough time to say Johnson is too busy now due to Knives out or some shit. Basically his career is further along so they can shelve it

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >postponed immediately after announcement
    >vaguely referenced every two years, no pre-production
    what a shock, they (kennedy herself, if I had to guess) literally only pretended it was still coming to make TLJ haters seethe

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Do they just make announcements for the sake of May 4th?
    Evey film project now should be met with eye rolls.
    Isn't this the third trilogy to be canned?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The Lando series with Donald Glover willing to come back is totally still happening bro. Trust me.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      probably
      don't forget josh trank was supposed to do a boba fett origins movie, they were talking about doing a yoda origins movie, and the obi-wan show show was supposed to be a movie originally

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The Obi wan film was actually planned as a trilogy, but only the first was scripted and no actual details of the subsequent films were ever planned.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The Obi wan film was actually planned as a trilogy, but only the first was scripted and no actual details of the subsequent films were ever planned.

        The Obi Wan Patterson cut/edit was actually pretty good. It cut the series into a feature length film and dropped the shit parts

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh if he made a trilogy with original characters and in a different era then it could be great. But he shouldn’t have worked with the original characters

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Tbh if he made a trilogy with original characters and in a different era then it could be great. But he shouldn’t have worked with the original characters

      Dude have you NOT been paying ATTENTION. That is literally the troon playbook. Take something historic and long beloved and wipe your ass with it. It doesn't work if it's something original.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Well then the alternative is take existing characters and making everyone gay and trans and brown

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They can't do anything right.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the only media set during that period they ever made?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Battlefront 2 DLC takes place during TFA and you see Starkiller base's death ray from some random planet

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    wasn't there supposed to be a "high republic" show by now? it was going to effectively erase KotOR or whatever

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it was going to effectively erase KotOR or whatever
      Revan is supposedly canon, tho.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      HR is only like 200 years before the prequels. Has no bearing really on the non existence of kotor

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I thought that the KOTOR remake was supposed to make it can-oh

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They gave that remake to one of the most incompetent and low quality developers out there. They just made ports before that

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Uhhhhhhhhhhh............ Bros???????????!
    Does.... Does that not make this Lost Media?
    Does that not mean there is an entire heckini Star Wars Trilogy out there that's LOST MEDIA!??
    RELEASE THE RIAN JOHNSON CUT NOW

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    remember how TFA has that part where Poe and Finn crash in the desert and the TIE explodes and Poe disappears from the movie for like 50 minutes only to reappear randomly at the end?
    what the frick was that? amateur-hour writing

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      he was supposed to die

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    good

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Before this thread dies I have to ask: Was it a space opera?

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Frick Rian and everything about him.

    For me, its the A-Wing.
    >literal sled with rockets
    >fastest ship period, even TIE Interceptors lag
    >you literally have to be a braindead deathwishing maniac to pilot one

    Your move, Impgays.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >fastest ship period, even TIE Interceptors lag
      Droid Trifighters are faster.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Droid Tri-Fighters
        Not an issue by the Galactic Civil War and it ever being an issue ever again was quelled by the bombardment of Gizor Delso's droid factory.

        Frick outta here, separatist shits.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Tie-Strikers are faster, they go up to 1500 kph, while A-Wings go 1300.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick is a TIE Striker
        >canonshit
        Oh. And it's an atmospheric fighter, that shit doesn't count.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the a-wing is canon too you moron

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, OT Canon and not nuWars, numbnuts.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >atmospheric
        If we needed a fricking T-16 Skyhopper posted here, I would have done it.

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >twitterposting
    >no real proof found anywhere
    >anons fall for it. take thread to bump limit

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    God-tier bait.

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Your reply is the actual definition of gaslighting. Look it up.
    No, it actually isn't.
    >This is just cope for making a shitty movie.
    But Star Wars fans love shitty movies. TLJ being shitty clearly was not the problem.

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The "Resistance" is just so gay I can't even want them to win. They come off as spoiled Antifa brats and not the literal terrorists the Rebels were.

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bros I loved every bit of Star Wars growing up, but couldn't bother seeing any of the Disney slop outside of Force Awakens and Reddit One.

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    how the pinnacle of internet, manchild, chudcel got to take a hot diahrea dump all over gisnep's cash cow i'll never understand.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >jumpscares every one of disney's target demographics

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >trans warp transporters
    And this is why I hate Abrams’s lazy, moronic ass.

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We won bros

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who says JJ put Rian in a box is moronic. If you go by TFA, Luke had fricked off after his failure on some planet and literally left a map for people to find him. He could have been researching something and assumed the FO really wasn't a threat at all, but had some more pressing discovery to find about Kylo's fall, or was trying to figure out the Force Ghost thing Qui Gon did. Any explanation could work if you actually cared about the lore and spent ten seconds trying to make things fit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Hell, he could have been *stranded* on some backwater planet awaiting rescue.

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