I went for a second imax screening eith my family, telling them it was one of the best films I’ve seen, and as always saw the flaws with the second watch. This scene came up and my brothers were laughing between themselves and I knew what was coming >so this is why you loved this movie right? Bunch of shirtless men
Goddamnit
Yes, in fact he forced the production to reshoot it again after everyone thought it was completed. The actors had been competitive to get in great shape for the scene and once done they went out and partied/ate fast food. Tom had a problem with the original shoot and they all had to go back to working out
hangman obviously.
I was also impressed that the misogynist Chad who voted for trump actually saved the day. usually the writers give into their monkey natures and use these characters as a punching bag
>Just like in the first film with Iceman where the "antagonist" was the objectively better pilot.
Not to mention maverick wasnt even number 1 in his unit and wouldnt have made it to top gun if cougar hadnt had a mental breakdown.
when the "best pilots in the world" started panicking about going below their 500m floor or whatever it was, I immediately laughed in the theatre as I thought of how I'd just seen footage of Ukrainian pilots bombing Snake Island from an altitude of like 30ft.
Hangman wouldn't stand a chance against peak Iceman. Iceman was about as good as Maverick, arguably better, and even as an old man, Maverick BTFO's all of the new pilots.
Rooster, he is the one that got the closest to beating maverick during training and there was the laserless bombing, Hangman just didnt have many feats on screen, he did save the day by the end but his kill was pretty much handed to him.
Hangman was easily the best pilot of them all he was the only pilot that made Maverick struggle but the fact that he didn't played in team and was known for abandoning his teammates screwed him from being chosen for a mission that required teamwork.
The worst part of the movie was the fact that we barely got to see the students fly and see more of their personalities. The bar scene was great and there should have been more scenes like it.
The original did it much better, with Maverick being restricted by Cruise as the main character stealing the show away from the students.
I understand your complaint but remember the movie is literally titled MAVERICK. Hopefully they continue and make more top gun movies focused on individual pilots
The original felt like pilots, I keep saying it but the only crew that felt like real character was 'bob'. He was the only genuine new character. Everyone else, Hangman, Rooster, Hispanic, Black. etc They all were college kiddies characters.
Orignial had none of this shit. Even Iceman wasnt a dick like Hangman to Maverick. Iceman's problem with Mav in the orignial was becasue Maverick was not a team player.
While Hangman was more like Maverick. Except he just a all around dick.
We dont get to see much navigatior talk either unlike in the original, Iceman.had his partner Slider.
In this movie Maverick didnt even have a co pilot? What happneed to Roosters co-pilot??? Did he not have one? What the fug? Didnt they all have 2 pilots in their planes?
There were 2 teams.
Rooster was in a single seat F-18.
Phoenix & Bob were in the double seater w/ duel engine.
The single seater is somewhat better for dogfighting and Rooster & Maverick were there to basically be offensive linemen to prevent any SAM / Enemy Plane from attacking the Duel Seaters that had a laser guided Weapons System on it.
HANGMAN was like Maverick in OG Top Gun in that he was a good pilot but bad in that he wasn't super capable of following directions in a mission.
Rooster was just as good of a dogfighter. The scene in the beginning where he and Maverick are spinning like a tornado is something that only exceptional pilots could pull off (even though it was stupid). Rooster is seen as not exceptional because he pauses to take the shots he needs to.
>Hangman was like Maverick
In some ways but hangman is way worse.
Hangman litteraly leaves his wingman so they can bait the enemy pilot so he can go in for the kill in the training.
While Maverick left his wing man to go hunt another enemy plane while his wingman was already behind the current enemy plane.
So Maverick left when he his team had the advantage and and Hangman straight up abandons his fellow teammate.
The new characters just suck besides Bob. The Hispanic girl was nothing in particular. Bob was more of the stand out than her. The black guy was a nobody and so was the Hispanic manlet. There were like the rest of the pilots who were litteraly who's. >NJP JR
Because Hangman is 'le bad guy'
Rooster is 'le trying to be like dad'.
Bob was the only character that was new and refreshing.
Every pilot sucked balls. If your so smart name the other pilots without looking it up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If Rooster was trying to be like Goose he'd be an WSO instead of a pilot. Rooster was his own man
2 years ago
Anonymous
FWIW, WSOs are also pilots. On a mission like this the WSO would probably be the best pilot of the bunch.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No they are not. WSOs are not trained to takeoff and land aircraft.They can perform maneuvers when handed over controls but they are not pilots by any true sense of the word
2 years ago
Anonymous
He wears the same mustache and clothes, plays the same instrument and works in the same profession..
2 years ago
Anonymous
He takes inspiration from Goose but he's not Goose. Rooster is obsessed with safety and teamwork, traits Goose did not have and Rooster is a pilot while Goose was an RIO
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bob stuck up for Phoenix in one scene.
The only other thing I remember about him is that he racked balls for Phoenix and they made a joke about him being a stealth guy because no one noticed him at all.
The only issue I had was that Rooster is kind of all over the place. I sort of wanted him to be a bit more like the character we saw when Maverick sees him in the Forrest. We probably needed more scenes where he talks to Phoenix than we needed scenes where Maverick talks to Penny.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rooster was the Iceman to Hangman's Maverick and he's honestly barely in the movie alone, the movie is about Maverick, as the title implies. Rooster exists as the focal point of Maverick's redemption for Goose's death
For better or worse the film is basically "What if Top Gun was through Viper's eyes?"
I feel like we could have used an extra 15-20 minutes of character development from the recruits.
Iceman, Maverick, Goose, and Slider are really fleshed out. I don't know if it would have been that hard to have scenes that highlighted the new class a bit more.
In all honesty the young bloods just exist as extra bodies so the mission wasn't just Maverick and Rooster in the film. They're their to show that Maverick is still an elite pilot despite his age and even new and young Too Gun graduates can't best him. Maverick had to actually become a teacher, something he said he couldn't do because his skill was just part of who he was like breathing and not something he felt he could pass down. As the movie goes on, he feels responsible for them and that's part of his development as a mentor for Rooster
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah. I thought the "pulled the papers" backstory was actually lame. It would've been better if the issue dealt with Maverick not wanting to teach Rooster in the past. Like just ghosting him while he went through the Academy because he didn't want to be at fault if the kid died.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well most people thought the source of conflict would be Mavericks responsibility for Goose's death and they wanted to subvert that. Plus it explains why Rooster is only an 0-3 when he should realistically be a Commander at his age
what are you talking about you homosexual?
You want them to have boobs? big pecs look terrible in real life, only gay bodybuilders appreciate that and most men do not have the pec insertions you find attractive because that look is not androgenic
Hangman will never be promoted because he's not a good leader or team mate. Rooster will become a CAG for his willingness to lead by example and pull everyone through
Being a pilot is a part time thing despite what Hollywood shows you. All naval pilots have be billeted in another role when they're not flying so when they're not in the sky they're doing power points on how to properly wipe your ass and other miscellaneous shit
>Rooster, have I ever told you about your father? He was the best jet fighter in the Empire and a cunning lover. We used to call him "spitshine Goose" he would rim your butthole to the point where you could reflect light of it. I understand you have become quite the cuckosexual yourself.
>Best friend dies because you were acting irresponsible >Teach your best friend's son to act irresponsibly >Fly impeccably while having a mental breakdown while refusing to accept from Jedi Master Iceman
Only Goose dying was actually Maverick following the rules. He got killed by following Iceman and Iceman's jetwash took them in a spin that made Goose release the ejection which was broken.
Also Rooster just took too much time to think. In the final dogfight (and training session) we saw Maverick have the same problem. He took too long to engage because Goose's death fricked him up. Cougar had the same issue in the opening scene of Top Gun. He was overthinking the situation at hand and couldn't land his plane. The whole thing is about overcoming anxiety from past traumas and focusing on the present.
Pretty sure the first thing they teach you in flight school is not to fly directly behind another aircraft. >You can pick any assignment you want, Mav. You're the best of the best who can't learn the simplest of the simplest.
I get the theme of the film, I just didn't get why there were never any consequences. Top Gun is a shit film but at least Maverick flying like a moron had consequences, even if they weren't 100% his fault. "Maverick" has nothing. It was like watching a Marvel movie with somehow less character.
>It was like watching a Marvel movie with somehow less character.
Have you never seen a Mission Impossible movie? Because that's literally what it was, not Marvel. Still shit though
individually hangman
as a team member rooster and that's why he was picked
Do you think Tom Cruise personally approved this scene?
I went for a second imax screening eith my family, telling them it was one of the best films I’ve seen, and as always saw the flaws with the second watch. This scene came up and my brothers were laughing between themselves and I knew what was coming
>so this is why you loved this movie right? Bunch of shirtless men
Goddamnit
Your brothers sound like morons
Effeminate men who don’t get brotherly banter lmao
sounds like never had friends either. how can you not 'get' calling each other gays for lols
Zoomer brain
haha youre gay
gross, should have told your brothers homophobia is not ok
Are your brothers 13?
Your brothers are soulless.
Your brothers have gay sex with eachother
Based younger brothers. You fricking gay
Never do this shit with friends and family.
Just enjoy the things you like for yourself.
Also you probably are gay.
>so gay he makes his family see a movie specifically so they can see the fit shirtless men scene
Yes, in fact he forced the production to reshoot it again after everyone thought it was completed. The actors had been competitive to get in great shape for the scene and once done they went out and partied/ate fast food. Tom had a problem with the original shoot and they all had to go back to working out
hangman obviously.
I was also impressed that the misogynist Chad who voted for trump actually saved the day. usually the writers give into their monkey natures and use these characters as a punching bag
How do you know Hangman voted for Trump?
Hangman. Just like in the first film with Iceman where the "antagonist" was the objectively better pilot.
>Just like in the first film with Iceman where the "antagonist" was the objectively better pilot.
Not to mention maverick wasnt even number 1 in his unit and wouldnt have made it to top gun if cougar hadnt had a mental breakdown.
Mav wasn't the number one choice because of his personality, not his piloting skills.
>citation needed
Try watching the movie, champ.
Post timestamp of that bit.
Both of them sucked tbh if they cant fly low and 'graduated' from top gun already. They were f-35 babies.
when the "best pilots in the world" started panicking about going below their 500m floor or whatever it was, I immediately laughed in the theatre as I thought of how I'd just seen footage of Ukrainian pilots bombing Snake Island from an altitude of like 30ft.
ukrainians are flying old rust bucket planes that fly slower than modern US fighters, so it's easier to fly low
They used Su-27s which can do mach 2 (2500 kph)
Meanwhile The F-35 tops at 1700 and the F-22 tops at 2400
What about the ghost of kiev!? He could single handidly wipe out the us airforce, what s fricking guy!
>homosexual got triggered by a mention of Ukrainian pilots
have a nice day
Stop screeching you fricking woman.
no matter how many hours they send miles teller to the gym, or make him wear snazzy floral shirts, he'll never be handsome or cool lmfao
Rooster, because he's cuter.
Rooster, he plays mean Piano too. Cuckman wasn't chosen for the mission.
why dont they cast some fit with nice breasts and legs while they're at it? oh wait...
For me, it’s Bob
>nobody notices him despite having been here a while
>wears a shirt at the beach but isn’t fat
>Latina pussy slayer
He’s just like me
Hangman, easily. But if it's a peak Iceman vs peak Hangman, then I'm gonna need a couple of minutes to think it over.
Hangman wouldn't stand a chance against peak Iceman. Iceman was about as good as Maverick, arguably better, and even as an old man, Maverick BTFO's all of the new pilots.
Rooster, he is the one that got the closest to beating maverick during training and there was the laserless bombing, Hangman just didnt have many feats on screen, he did save the day by the end but his kill was pretty much handed to him.
WHEN IS IT OUT ON DIGITAL AND WEBRIPS ?? I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE.
I watched it once in the cinema and I want to see it again.
it was only in my theatre for 2 weeks
you can practically hear the allahu ackbar and takbir in that webm.
Did Teller take roids?
Hangman was easily the best pilot of them all he was the only pilot that made Maverick struggle but the fact that he didn't played in team and was known for abandoning his teammates screwed him from being chosen for a mission that required teamwork.
The worst part of the movie was the fact that we barely got to see the students fly and see more of their personalities. The bar scene was great and there should have been more scenes like it.
The original did it much better, with Maverick being restricted by Cruise as the main character stealing the show away from the students.
I understand your complaint but remember the movie is literally titled MAVERICK. Hopefully they continue and make more top gun movies focused on individual pilots
The original felt like pilots, I keep saying it but the only crew that felt like real character was 'bob'. He was the only genuine new character. Everyone else, Hangman, Rooster, Hispanic, Black. etc They all were college kiddies characters.
Orignial had none of this shit. Even Iceman wasnt a dick like Hangman to Maverick. Iceman's problem with Mav in the orignial was becasue Maverick was not a team player.
While Hangman was more like Maverick. Except he just a all around dick.
We dont get to see much navigatior talk either unlike in the original, Iceman.had his partner Slider.
In this movie Maverick didnt even have a co pilot? What happneed to Roosters co-pilot??? Did he not have one? What the fug? Didnt they all have 2 pilots in their planes?
One single seat and one dual seat in each pair, I thought it was?
Yes
There were 2 teams.
Rooster was in a single seat F-18.
Phoenix & Bob were in the double seater w/ duel engine.
The single seater is somewhat better for dogfighting and Rooster & Maverick were there to basically be offensive linemen to prevent any SAM / Enemy Plane from attacking the Duel Seaters that had a laser guided Weapons System on it.
HANGMAN was like Maverick in OG Top Gun in that he was a good pilot but bad in that he wasn't super capable of following directions in a mission.
Rooster was just as good of a dogfighter. The scene in the beginning where he and Maverick are spinning like a tornado is something that only exceptional pilots could pull off (even though it was stupid). Rooster is seen as not exceptional because he pauses to take the shots he needs to.
>Hangman was like Maverick
In some ways but hangman is way worse.
Hangman litteraly leaves his wingman so they can bait the enemy pilot so he can go in for the kill in the training.
While Maverick left his wing man to go hunt another enemy plane while his wingman was already behind the current enemy plane.
So Maverick left when he his team had the advantage and and Hangman straight up abandons his fellow teammate.
The new characters just suck besides Bob. The Hispanic girl was nothing in particular. Bob was more of the stand out than her. The black guy was a nobody and so was the Hispanic manlet. There were like the rest of the pilots who were litteraly who's.
>NJP JR
why is everyone saying Bob? He is completely forgettable bar his intro scene. Is it because he has le funny name
Because Hangman is 'le bad guy'
Rooster is 'le trying to be like dad'.
Bob was the only character that was new and refreshing.
Every pilot sucked balls. If your so smart name the other pilots without looking it up.
If Rooster was trying to be like Goose he'd be an WSO instead of a pilot. Rooster was his own man
FWIW, WSOs are also pilots. On a mission like this the WSO would probably be the best pilot of the bunch.
No they are not. WSOs are not trained to takeoff and land aircraft.They can perform maneuvers when handed over controls but they are not pilots by any true sense of the word
He wears the same mustache and clothes, plays the same instrument and works in the same profession..
He takes inspiration from Goose but he's not Goose. Rooster is obsessed with safety and teamwork, traits Goose did not have and Rooster is a pilot while Goose was an RIO
Bob stuck up for Phoenix in one scene.
The only other thing I remember about him is that he racked balls for Phoenix and they made a joke about him being a stealth guy because no one noticed him at all.
The only issue I had was that Rooster is kind of all over the place. I sort of wanted him to be a bit more like the character we saw when Maverick sees him in the Forrest. We probably needed more scenes where he talks to Phoenix than we needed scenes where Maverick talks to Penny.
Rooster was the Iceman to Hangman's Maverick and he's honestly barely in the movie alone, the movie is about Maverick, as the title implies. Rooster exists as the focal point of Maverick's redemption for Goose's death
For better or worse the film is basically "What if Top Gun was through Viper's eyes?"
I feel like we could have used an extra 15-20 minutes of character development from the recruits.
Iceman, Maverick, Goose, and Slider are really fleshed out. I don't know if it would have been that hard to have scenes that highlighted the new class a bit more.
In all honesty the young bloods just exist as extra bodies so the mission wasn't just Maverick and Rooster in the film. They're their to show that Maverick is still an elite pilot despite his age and even new and young Too Gun graduates can't best him. Maverick had to actually become a teacher, something he said he couldn't do because his skill was just part of who he was like breathing and not something he felt he could pass down. As the movie goes on, he feels responsible for them and that's part of his development as a mentor for Rooster
Yeah. I thought the "pulled the papers" backstory was actually lame. It would've been better if the issue dealt with Maverick not wanting to teach Rooster in the past. Like just ghosting him while he went through the Academy because he didn't want to be at fault if the kid died.
Well most people thought the source of conflict would be Mavericks responsibility for Goose's death and they wanted to subvert that. Plus it explains why Rooster is only an 0-3 when he should realistically be a Commander at his age
RIO/WSO is a dying role and the current gen fighters are all single seaters
F/A-18E - single seat
F/A-18F - tandem seats
they both have horrible chest insertions
how
Post body.
what are you talking about you homosexual?
You want them to have boobs? big pecs look terrible in real life, only gay bodybuilders appreciate that and most men do not have the pec insertions you find attractive because that look is not androgenic
Hangman will never be promoted because he's not a good leader or team mate. Rooster will become a CAG for his willingness to lead by example and pull everyone through
Right is roided.
Why does a man need to roid for a film role as a pilot?
Phoenix
thats a nice skirt
Hangman. Rooster was too emotional
To be fair, Rooster has daddy issues.
Hangman is too wienery so it still balances out
>clean shaven, shirtless tanned macho white guy with sunglasses and medium-short cut hair
ugh does he give anyone else serious aryan brotherhood vibes? this film is incredibly problematic sweaties
>tricks a bunch of impressionable young adults into joining the airforce for upcoming military conflicts
holy freaking based!
literally me, put in application at 29 cause i dont feel like being a wagie
US wars have been failsafe for quite some time
It's a navy movie moron.
only the air force is allowed to have planes imbecile
Hilariously bad bait
they really wish they could thats for sure
Being a pilot is a part time thing despite what Hollywood shows you. All naval pilots have be billeted in another role when they're not flying so when they're not in the sky they're doing power points on how to properly wipe your ass and other miscellaneous shit
I'm studying electrical engineering so working on jets all day would be fricking sick
Cinemaphile is a Bob board
Bob should have been a pilot, it would have been so much more kino
I was genuinely shocked when I saw how jacked Hangman was.
Seeing Cruise's plump turkey body and then seeing a chad was bizarre.
So as someone that never comes on here I saw an ad for porn hub. And I’ll be coming elsewhere.
how can i achieve such body ?
>Rooster, have I ever told you about your father? He was the best jet fighter in the Empire and a cunning lover. We used to call him "spitshine Goose" he would rim your butthole to the point where you could reflect light of it. I understand you have become quite the cuckosexual yourself.
and he was a good friend
>Best friend dies because you were acting irresponsible
>Teach your best friend's son to act irresponsibly
>Fly impeccably while having a mental breakdown while refusing to accept from Jedi Master Iceman
Only Goose dying was actually Maverick following the rules. He got killed by following Iceman and Iceman's jetwash took them in a spin that made Goose release the ejection which was broken.
Also Rooster just took too much time to think. In the final dogfight (and training session) we saw Maverick have the same problem. He took too long to engage because Goose's death fricked him up. Cougar had the same issue in the opening scene of Top Gun. He was overthinking the situation at hand and couldn't land his plane. The whole thing is about overcoming anxiety from past traumas and focusing on the present.
Pretty sure the first thing they teach you in flight school is not to fly directly behind another aircraft.
>You can pick any assignment you want, Mav. You're the best of the best who can't learn the simplest of the simplest.
I get the theme of the film, I just didn't get why there were never any consequences. Top Gun is a shit film but at least Maverick flying like a moron had consequences, even if they weren't 100% his fault. "Maverick" has nothing. It was like watching a Marvel movie with somehow less character.
>It was like watching a Marvel movie with somehow less character.
Have you never seen a Mission Impossible movie? Because that's literally what it was, not Marvel. Still shit though
>hangman
>what's that gayman
How did they get away with this?
Tuesday 11:30am I can watch it again. Are these delicacies worth it?
Shit I can find them for 2.50 outside the kinoplex...
>Hey you! What's your call name?
>Femboy
What the frick where they thinking?!