>You will NOT see Batgirl. >You will NOT see The Batman 2. >You will NOT see Cyborg. >You will NOT see Blue Beetle. >You will NOT see Green Lantern. >You will NOT see Static Shock. >You will NOT see Peacemaker Season 2. >You will NOT see Arkham. >You will NOT see The Penguin. >You will NOT see Bat-Keaton return. >You will NOT see Battinson again. >You will NOT see Brendan Fraser's Redemption Arc. >You WILL enjoy Batfleck. >You WILL enjoy Leto Joker. >You WILL enjoy the Snyderverse. >You WILL stop seeing animated content. >You will NOT watch Close Enough. >You will NOT watch Infinity Train. >You will NOT see the Ghibli Films on HBO Max. >You will NOT watch The Criterion Collection HBO Max. >You will NOT watch Turner Classic Movies on HBO Max. >You will NOT watch the Warner Bros' Archive on HBO Max. >You WILL see Cartoon Network die. >You WILL see Toonami die. >You WILL see [adult swim] die. >You WILL see Cartoon Network die. >You WILL see Warner Animation Group die. >You WILL watch the Monsterverse die. >You WILL see DC die. >You WILL see AEW die. >You WILL see HBO Max die. >You WILL see your favorite shows and movies disappear from the face of the earth. >You WILL join the female skew. >You WILL watch Unscripted Shows. >You WILL welcome the home of Generedoms. >You WILL watch the 90 Day Fiance Universe. >You WILL watch Velma Quinn
>YOU WILL WATCH REALITY TV. >AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
The longer things started to go, the more I started to think Zaslav is less of a guy who tries to kill Cinemaphile content, but more of a guy who has to clean this stinking debt-hellhole of a crackhouse that is Warner Bros. before they can truly look for the future.
Well you are an idiot if you think that. Yes WB is buried deep in debt, but it seems all of Zaslav’s ideas are backfiring as the stock worth of WB continues to plummet.
Also, I imagine less and less people are going to want to work on WB knowing their finished films/shows could easily get canned
wait, I thought Cartoon Network Studios only did original stuff? IP adaptations are more WB Animation or Hanna-Barbera Europe's thing. unless it was a Bird & Squirrel / Bustletown situation where they're adapting some little known book
Cotugno will always be infuriating for being the biggest example of fantastic born into wealth and success privilege seen in the modern world, but will always endlessly cry over how she is always being so terribly persecuted by the evil privileged elites out there every single day.
She will easily be the first fricking person to complain about privileged people and getting their way or getting into positions they never earned, not like her who clearly worked her ass off for where she is.
She is the kind of person that has always made 6 figures, even in college, but will wine about some Target supervisor that makes $16 an hour being an overprivileged white male.
She is also LA born and raised, so it is very possible she was always wealthy. But LA is also weird where people there making that 6 figures are around people making 7 or 8 figs so they don't see themselves as wealthy.
>You will NOT see Batgirl. >You will NOT see The Batman 2. >You will NOT see Cyborg. >You will NOT see Blue Beetle. >You will NOT see Green Lantern. >You will NOT see Static Shock. >You will NOT see Peacemaker Season 2. >You will NOT see Arkham. >You will NOT see The Penguin. >You will NOT see Bat-Keaton return. >You will NOT see Battinson again. >You will NOT see Brendan Fraser's Redemption Arc. >You WILL enjoy Batfleck. >You WILL enjoy Leto Joker. >You WILL enjoy the Snyderverse. >You WILL stop seeing animated content. >You will NOT watch Close Enough. >You will NOT watch Infinity Train. >You will NOT see the Ghibli Films on HBO Max. >You will NOT watch The Criterion Collection HBO Max. >You will NOT watch Turner Classic Movies on HBO Max. >You will NOT watch the Warner Bros' Archive on HBO Max. >You WILL see Cartoon Network die. >You WILL see Toonami die. >You WILL see [adult swim] die. >You WILL see Cartoon Network die. >You WILL see Warner Animation Group die. >You WILL watch the Monsterverse die. >You WILL see DC die. >You WILL see AEW die. >You WILL see HBO Max die. >You WILL see your favorite shows and movies disappear from the face of the earth. >You WILL join the female skew. >You WILL watch Unscripted Shows. >You WILL welcome the home of Generedoms. >You WILL watch the 90 Day Fiance Universe. >You WILL watch Velma Quinn
>YOU WILL WATCH REALITY TV. >AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
Thankful. Every failure of a 2012 Tumblr person puts a bigger smile on my face. They should be frustrated to see everything they try to make fall through
" politics, canceling little guys, seeing everything you try to make get canceled!" Better than her cartooning
Hero shit until you added all the cringe. You will never be a beloved cartoon maker.
I've never felt bad for her. She's a good artist, but she's also annoying, racist, sexist, overly dramatic, a hypocrite, and a blatant liar as shown by her CartoonBrew article when she talked about her experience at CalArts.
All these "focused on diversity" artists really just can't admit that they just wanna see more cute girls and boys making out in cartoons like in anime. If they admitted that and stopped hiding behind the guise of, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN", I might respect them a bit more and feel bad when they get their 10th project cancelled.
she is simply an egomaniac desperate for attention, and part of it is constant self-victimization
any other transgressions committed stem directly from that
>All these "focused on diversity" artists really just can't admit that they just wanna see more cute girls and boys making out in cartoons like in anime. If they admitted that and stopped hiding behind the guise of, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN", I might respect them a bit more and feel bad when they get their 10th project cancelled.
This sums up my thoughts exactly. Especially since their ideas of “diversity” are almost identical. It’s all very surface-level, as if checking off a list. It’s not great when a show’s writing feels like a fanfic of itself.
the only diversity peddler i actually ever believed when they said 'it's for the children' was rebecca sugar. she actually went to child psychologists and sat through lectures about bullying and shit
i think most animators don't even like children. if they were allowed to make gay little shows for adults we might see less of this kind of shit
Yeah say what you want about Rebecca but she was one of the most professional of all these people
I can’t say I’m surprised since she did that anti-bullying special for CN. What is she up to now anyway. Feature films? I ask because she actually worked on Hotel Transylvania
A year ago Sugar and Ian JQ attended a Walt Disney Family Museum Panel for LGTBQ+ people but normally those panels showcase people who only work or worked at Disney, so probably they have something on development at DTVA after Steven Universe and OK KO! ended with Ian mentioning that Toby Fox helped on the music of his upcoming project.
>but normally those panels showcase people who only work or worked at Disney
She was in an episode of Amphibia, so chances are that's what that was for.
i thought she got burned out same as zach did, the last i saw from her was that she was learning to play the guitar.
tbf it doesn't seem like a great enviroment to create a new cartoon right now, even pitches from people like mccracken and faust are getting shitcanned left and right
>She ruined Star vs. the Forces of Evil
What did she do on that show? Have to say it's one of the worst endings I've seen for a story in a long time.
mostly she made the blonde chick lesbo with some self projecting and everyone got big mad about it. also drew a cringe trans marco fanart
>mostly she made the blonde chick lesbo with some self projecting and everyone got big mad about it. also drew a cringe trans marco fanart
People were mad at her LONG before that, you dishonest bastard. The second half of Star vs is such a massive shitshow the lesbian pandering doesn't even come up much in discussion.
1 year ago
Anonymous
oh, really? i didn't even watch the show, but i kept seeing endless threads of the blonde chick
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah, my apologies, I assumed you were just being disingenuous.
In any case, Jackie was the designated "waifu" character and a fan favorite since season 1. People REALLY liked her, partially because she felt like a subversion of the usual romantic tropes. She was the rival love interest, but was also a genuinely good person, so Star didn't actually have much ground to stand on. She even hooked up with Marco during season 2, and was a vital part of Marco's character growth.
At the start of season 3, Marco ended up acting supremely OOC just for them to break up for the sake of Starco endgame, and it was just the first warning of the whole show falling apart for the sake of shipping bullshit. The whole lesbian thing happened at the end of S4, by which case everyone was already too burned by the show to care.
1 year ago
Anonymous
that makes sense
every thread said to stop watching at the end of s3 or else
1 year ago
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I'd argue Battle for Mewni, which is the season 2 finale, is the perfect stopping point. There's almost nothing worth watching in Season 3 outside of maybe Queen Eclipsa, who's a top tier design and character concept utterly squandered by the show's writing.
>tbf it doesn't seem like a great enviroment to create a new cartoon right now, even pitches from people like mccracken and faust are getting shitcanned left and right
Depends where you’re at. I say that because it seems the only network/studio that still does original programming is Disney TVA as they have some new shows coming up. Which makes this
>What is she up to now anyway. Feature films?
A year ago Sugar and Ian JQ attended a Walt Disney Family Museum Panel for LGTBQ+ people but normally those panels showcase people who only work or worked at Disney, so probably they have something on development at DTVA after Steven Universe and OK KO! ended with Ian mentioning that Toby Fox helped on the music of his upcoming project.
make even more sense. Maybe Ian and Rebecca are trying to pitch on DTVA
Agreed. Steven Universe is the only kids cartoon I’ve seen in recent years that actually felt like it was made with queer themes built into its storytelling. For all of the show’s many flaws, you can tell Rebecca Sugar had a specific vision and a story she wanted to tell. She wasn’t just putting her shipping fanfic to animation.
Her greatest downfall is that she became too self conscious and was worried that the fandom wouldn’t understand her work. She tried too hard to be a voice for everyone, when that’s simply impossible. Hence, her show began to spiral out of control. But, regardless of the show’s execution, you can tell she’s 100% sincere about her art.
its funny I've taken a few classes in high school and college(i was even the only guy in one of the classes) and never once felt alienated in those classes.
My problem with Cotugno is mostly this one when they started to attack the Spongebob crew with indirects over the fish lady desing on the "My Leg" episode they lost their respect for me alongside their moronic takes like hating the Joker beacuse being problematic, hating Sylvie from Loki, hating Beastars beacuse it dosn't feature a LGTBQ+ character and many more.
The fact that pic related was passed by Disney just beacuse they refused to make the main character more likeable beacuse test audiences found the her unlikabe makes me think that all their other projects that have been passed by Netflix,Disney,CN have always insufferable leads.
I always saw Cotugno as the Anti-Luke Weber which have similar issues of failing to get their own shows.
just by looking at that image the setting of this idea makes no sense to me. the character's outfit says "medieval fantasy" but the environment says "urban sci-fi"
The medieval period was a Catholic time, so people like her don't actually enjoy depicting the setting properly. One reason why she is incapable of getting her cartoon creation going despite all her privilege and connections
>Hating Beastars beacuse it dosn't feature a LGTBQ+ character and many more.
But Louie has a very gay vibe with Legoshi specially on the second season finale of the Anime.
"Gay vibes" come from normal things like being a confused and lost youth, which are corrupted by gay culture
Wait hold up, six figures? Do we even know if Cotugno came from wealth?
The animation industry is full of spoiled kids, you're not getting to the top without being a more spoiled kid
Their webcomic gives you very red flags in why they handling a 7-11 serialized show won't fricking work in terms of narration and storytelling,they should stick to Directing and Storyboarding with some Graphic Novels if they want to have some projects of their own.
>they they they
There is no such thing. c**tugno is a female whether she likes it or not.
Kindly frick off back whence you came and then have a nice day.
My problem with Cotugno is mostly this one when they started to attack the Spongebob crew with indirects over the fish lady desing on the "My Leg" episode they lost their respect for me alongside their moronic takes like hating the Joker beacuse being problematic, hating Sylvie from Loki, hating Beastars beacuse it dosn't feature a LGTBQ+ character and many more.
The fact that pic related was passed by Disney just beacuse they refused to make the main character more likeable beacuse test audiences found the her unlikabe makes me think that all their other projects that have been passed by Netflix,Disney,CN have always insufferable leads.
I always saw Cotugno as the Anti-Luke Weber which have similar issues of failing to get their own shows.
Their webcomic gives you very red flags in why they handling a 7-11 serialized show won't fricking work in terms of narration and storytelling,they should stick to Directing and Storyboarding with some Graphic Novels if they want to have some projects of their own.
I read her webcomic The Glass Scientists and it wasted potential. You have a bunch of mad scientists in the Victorian Era and instead of focusing on weird gadgets or experiments, you're going to make the plot revolve around the interracial romance between the main lead and his broken buck.
I remember reading it back in its early pages. It seemed promising to me cause of the setting and its inspirations. Doesn't help that I had an itch for Victorian Era stories at the time so I followed it for a while. I don't know if it's changed nowadays, but I remember feeling the Jekyll and Hyde stuff felt too "safe" to me. Hyde seemed more like a party guy instead of an outlet for Jekylls violent urges.
I know its a webcomic adaption so I can't expect it to be a perfect adaption since other characters got changed like Frankenstein. I think the references just felt more subdued for a story about mad scientists, so it wasn't my thing.
I always thought her webcomic was a good example of why she would be good as a show runner, since she’s at least got a solid work ethic and consistency. Compare that to a guy like Hirsch.
>I always thought her webcomic was a good example of why she would be good as a show runner, since she’s at least got a solid work ethic and consistency.
Well if it was an indie-project beacuse excs would make many changes.
>she's also annoying, racist, sexist
Remember when those words had meaning? Your post didn't explain how she's any of those things, go back to Kiwi Farms with that shit
>thinking those words have no meaning
It is incredibly obvious what that post means with the usage of those worse, b***h is screaming for White/Colonizer dick. I'd be surprised if she had sexual experience with anything that can handle the sun for longer than an hour
>Your post didn't explain how she's any of those things
She's one of those people who often uses "white" and "male" (unless you're trans) in a derogatory way. I don't give a shit about the new, made-up definition of racism that involves power or whatever, she frequently hates on groups of people and that makes her prejudice.
>All these "focused on diversity" artists really just can't admit that they just wanna see more cute girls and only girls making out in cartoons like in anime.
ftfy, you'd think fujos would be way more keen on prettyboys being cute with each other but it's surprisingly void in cartoons
Only by virtue of getting rid of absolutely everything. That's like saying "Thank god the hurricane took destroy that one noisy neighbor's house." when obliterated the entire neighborhood.
>That's like saying "Thank god the hurricane took destroy that one noisy neighbor's house." when obliterated the entire neighborhood.
It's more like saying "Thank god the hurricane destroyed that one neighborhood that's like 80% shit."
most shows die in development, it's nothing to be sad about. it's very rare that anything actually gets greenlit in the animation industry. and if a show makes it to air it's only through sheer luck
Racism and Mewmans=bad subplot, retconning the monsters being evil, Eclipsa being uwu so innocent, Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy, no more Ludo, the ending
>Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy
That put so many things in the previous seasons in a much worse context, and proves she gave Marco a lot more trouble on purpose with her bullshit. It also makes that end of the year party stuff much more selfish too
>Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy
That put so many things in the previous seasons in a much worse context, and proves she gave Marco a lot more trouble on purpose with her bullshit. It also makes that end of the year party stuff much more selfish too
>Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy
I really hate that people took this line at face value when it's immediately followed up by Star being a ditz and not knowing it. This was just a case of Star being an unreliable narrator.
>I'm just pretending not to understand things! >Also, the walk signal is an actual person!
It's like readers can't understand things unless they make it 110% straightforward.
[...] >Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy
I really hate that people took this line at face value when it's immediately followed up by Star being a ditz and not knowing it. This was just a case of Star being an unreliable narrator.
>I'm just pretending not to understand things! >Also, the walk signal is an actual person!
It's like readers can't understand things unless they make it 110% straightforward.
Well that actually makes a lot more sense qnd fitsnin with Star's character. By the end of the show every sperg here took everything the show spat out in the worst possible way and assumed the worse so I'm not surprised shit like this flew over people's heads. Literal blind rage
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>qnd fitsnin
excuse me?
1 year ago
Anonymous
What part of 'qnd fitsnin' did you not understand? I was pretty clear about what i meant.
1 year ago
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It's hard not to take everything at its worst possible value when the end is a literal genocide
Pretty much EVERYTHING about seasons 3 and 4 can be directly pointed back at her. She wrote some of the worst episodes in the series, and directed the majority of season 4.
Twitter moron that was a director for Star vs. the Forces of Evil and The Owl House. Word around the studio is that she directed the later seasons of the former.
She's notorious for,
1) Posting on twitter how she remained a virgin until college, then her first boyfriend gave her crabs and then dumped her. This is the person in charge of directing a shipping show such as Star vs. seasons 3 and 4.
2) Prosecuting Seddm, a tumblr theorizer guy for Star vs., after he edited a screenshot from the show where Marco is pulling down the neck of his hoodie in frustration and Star is looking at him a bit lecherously. Seddm removed Marco's t-shirt in that screenshot, therefore Sabrina crusaded against him, calling him a pedophile and saying that her "lawyer boyfriend" would prosecute him.
Of course, Seddm never faced any charges, but lol imagine being such an unhinged c**t and getting the director's role for the shipping cartoon.
Season 1 and 2 were episodic comedies with wacky jokes and gags everywhere. Season 3 and 4 were season long story arcs that went full shipping drama and changed the whole monster part of the story to an analog of colonization and minorities being oppressed by Americans. And that whole story arc largely went nowhere because the storyboarders in charge of individual episodes were not on the same page and they kept spinning the narrative in different competing directions.
Season 2 started to introduce some dramatic elements and what seemed like long-form storytelling with Glossryk's book and Star's crush on Marco...and then these ideas were abandonned.
she is also known for forming up cliques among the Disney TVA staff and specifically excluding people she does not personally like, turning the place into a highschool.
At least it seems she's taking this with a measure of grace that comes with maturity and experience. Maybe. It's certainly reserved for someone with her reputation.
The hard times are coming, the first time for a lot of them. Perhaps it's what we need.
>The hard times are coming, the first time for a lot of them. Perhaps it's what we need.
I was expecting more of these types of cancelations to continue. I think a lot of people were waiting for something huge to happen for years now to the industry. To think it would be a merger that would send so many shows onto the chopping block.
>To think it would be a merger that would send so many shows onto the chopping block.
Not so surprising; the aftermath of a merger is often a review of practices and priorities and often results in changes.
It's not amazing at all. David went and deleted a bunch of their bad shows that nobody likes, which they used for easy money and to hang out with their friends. Therefore, they hate him, and they will easily hate you for doing less.
Funniest thing is that these people in the industry will make a complete failure, make $150,000 doing so, and will go on Twitter and cry about how little they make. So glad that they're going through this and look forward to more in the future
How many times has this b***h gone to different studios, gotten projects vaguely greenlit/deals vaguely signed, and then had it all shit the bed?
I really really doubt I'd like anything she'd make but its kinda sad how many times this keeps happening to her.Or maybe it keeps happening to her because she's impossible to work with or something
The story so far, she had a development deal with Disney after working in The Owl House (season 1) which resulted in nothing. Then she moved to Netflix and landed a development deal as well which resulted in nothing. And now she was working for CN which resulted in nothing.
She's either cursed or just not good at leading projects. I wonder she's gonna sell out and try to pitch something for Paramount+
P+ doesn't have an original animation division, everything still goes through either Nick or MTV/Comedy Central (which have essentially merged on the content development front)
Sabrina would have to be smoking crack to think she could get her kind of show made at Nick so I doubt that'll happen
>She's either cursed or just not good at leading projects. I wonder she's gonna sell out and try to pitch something for Paramount+
P+ doesn't have an original animation division, everything still goes through either Nick or MTV/Comedy Central (which have essentially merged on the content development front)
Sabrina would have to be smoking crack to think she could get her kind of show made at Nick so I doubt that'll happen
>Sabrina would have to be smoking crack to think she could get her kind of show made at Nick so I doubt that'll happen
I mean look at Nefcy's deal with Nickelodeon from 2020 who haven't gotten a greenlight after 3 years.
Still wonder why Nefcy didn't ink a deal with Disney despite Star Vs bringing tons of money like The Houghton Brothers did..
Alex Hirsch hasn't gotten a show off the ground in the 6 years since gravity falls ended despite inking deals with bith fox and netflix. And his show is still the most popular thing to comeout of Disney channel since P&F
Nefcy had a kid towards the end of the show and wanted to take time off to raise her kid. It wasn't a coincidence that Star was kind of baby crazy towards the end of season 4.
btw it was a reboot of something
>"it was an IP adaptation"
So... which IP just dodged a bullet? Take your best guess.
Captain Caveman
Jossie And The PussyCats
phew
>IP adaption
Okay which WB property she tried to make lesbian shipping show?
There can’t be that many untainted works left. It must’ve been something like Ben 10.
Then I'm REALLY glad it got cancelled. Last thing we need is another uncreative woke getting It's hands on a beloved established franchise.
Take a guess what she was going to reboot
Adventure Time but with dykeshit
Probably Captain Planet or Wacky Races
It was Secret Squirrel.
You cannot make a Secret Squirrel better then the 90s version
No, having Secret Squirrel make out with Morocco would not make it better
Didn't they reboot wacky races a year or two ago?
Oh no
I was wanted to see a goofball comedy about Silverhawks where everyone is a lesbian
You never know, anon. https://www.joblo.com/silverhawks-reboot-animated-series/
Oh, I thought I should be worried.
Still, I do think it's rather painful.
And nothing of value was lost
Maybe
No never mind
And nothing of value was list
>IP adaptation
Oh, thank God.
The longer things started to go, the more I started to think Zaslav is less of a guy who tries to kill Cinemaphile content, but more of a guy who has to clean this stinking debt-hellhole of a crackhouse that is Warner Bros. before they can truly look for the future.
Well you are an idiot if you think that. Yes WB is buried deep in debt, but it seems all of Zaslav’s ideas are backfiring as the stock worth of WB continues to plummet.
Also, I imagine less and less people are going to want to work on WB knowing their finished films/shows could easily get canned
Ah, so we were spared from receiving a lesbian adaption of an existing show. Thank frick.
wait, I thought Cartoon Network Studios only did original stuff? IP adaptations are more WB Animation or Hanna-Barbera Europe's thing. unless it was a Bird & Squirrel / Bustletown situation where they're adapting some little known book
Imb4 Sabrina pitched a Reboot of Mike Lu & Og
I bet it was a reboot of Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi
PRAISE ZASLAV
No more pozzed reboots in cartoons
>btw it was a reboot of something
Then I'm even more elated that it was cancelled. We've had way too may old things ruined by modern hacks.
no
i’m glad she’s never going to make a show even though she’s failed upwards stupidly far
Cotugno will always be infuriating for being the biggest example of fantastic born into wealth and success privilege seen in the modern world, but will always endlessly cry over how she is always being so terribly persecuted by the evil privileged elites out there every single day.
She will easily be the first fricking person to complain about privileged people and getting their way or getting into positions they never earned, not like her who clearly worked her ass off for where she is.
It's obnoxious how this describes 99% of the people working in the industry.
She is the kind of person that has always made 6 figures, even in college, but will wine about some Target supervisor that makes $16 an hour being an overprivileged white male.
Wait hold up, six figures? Do we even know if Cotugno came from wealth?
She is also LA born and raised, so it is very possible she was always wealthy. But LA is also weird where people there making that 6 figures are around people making 7 or 8 figs so they don't see themselves as wealthy.
>You will NOT see Batgirl.
>You will NOT see The Batman 2.
>You will NOT see Cyborg.
>You will NOT see Blue Beetle.
>You will NOT see Green Lantern.
>You will NOT see Static Shock.
>You will NOT see Peacemaker Season 2.
>You will NOT see Arkham.
>You will NOT see The Penguin.
>You will NOT see Bat-Keaton return.
>You will NOT see Battinson again.
>You will NOT see Brendan Fraser's Redemption Arc.
>You WILL enjoy Batfleck.
>You WILL enjoy Leto Joker.
>You WILL enjoy the Snyderverse.
>You WILL stop seeing animated content.
>You will NOT watch Close Enough.
>You will NOT watch Infinity Train.
>You will NOT see the Ghibli Films on HBO Max.
>You will NOT watch The Criterion Collection HBO Max.
>You will NOT watch Turner Classic Movies on HBO Max.
>You will NOT watch the Warner Bros' Archive on HBO Max.
>You WILL see Cartoon Network die.
>You WILL see Toonami die.
>You WILL see [adult swim] die.
>You WILL see Cartoon Network die.
>You WILL see Warner Animation Group die.
>You WILL watch the Monsterverse die.
>You WILL see DC die.
>You WILL see AEW die.
>You WILL see HBO Max die.
>You WILL see your favorite shows and movies disappear from the face of the earth.
>You WILL join the female skew.
>You WILL watch Unscripted Shows.
>You WILL welcome the home of Generedoms.
>You WILL watch the 90 Day Fiance Universe.
>You WILL watch Velma Quinn
>YOU WILL WATCH REALITY TV.
>AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
kanye should pay him a visit
he's a israelite, so no
>You will NOT see Peacemaker Season 2.
>You WILL see DC die
who's gonna tell him?
I'm not
>you WILL see AEW die.
E-GODS. ALWAYS. WIN.
>Peacemaker
Gunn is basically the head of DC now. Peacemaker is absolutely happening.
Jokes on you, Warner only DISTRIBUTES monsterverse films, legendary(and toho to an extent) are the producers
Thankful. Every failure of a 2012 Tumblr person puts a bigger smile on my face. They should be frustrated to see everything they try to make fall through
" politics, canceling little guys, seeing everything you try to make get canceled!" Better than her cartooning
Hero shit until you added all the cringe. You will never be a beloved cartoon maker.
You forgot Scoob Holiday Special
The toon slayer
The hardest sacrifices takes the strongest wills.
>Nu-CN
I've never felt bad for her. She's a good artist, but she's also annoying, racist, sexist, overly dramatic, a hypocrite, and a blatant liar as shown by her CartoonBrew article when she talked about her experience at CalArts.
All these "focused on diversity" artists really just can't admit that they just wanna see more cute girls and boys making out in cartoons like in anime. If they admitted that and stopped hiding behind the guise of, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN", I might respect them a bit more and feel bad when they get their 10th project cancelled.
she is simply an egomaniac desperate for attention, and part of it is constant self-victimization
any other transgressions committed stem directly from that
>All these "focused on diversity" artists really just can't admit that they just wanna see more cute girls and boys making out in cartoons like in anime. If they admitted that and stopped hiding behind the guise of, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN", I might respect them a bit more and feel bad when they get their 10th project cancelled.
This sums up my thoughts exactly. Especially since their ideas of “diversity” are almost identical. It’s all very surface-level, as if checking off a list. It’s not great when a show’s writing feels like a fanfic of itself.
the only diversity peddler i actually ever believed when they said 'it's for the children' was rebecca sugar. she actually went to child psychologists and sat through lectures about bullying and shit
i think most animators don't even like children. if they were allowed to make gay little shows for adults we might see less of this kind of shit
Yeah say what you want about Rebecca but she was one of the most professional of all these people
I can’t say I’m surprised since she did that anti-bullying special for CN. What is she up to now anyway. Feature films? I ask because she actually worked on Hotel Transylvania
>What is she up to now anyway. Feature films?
A year ago Sugar and Ian JQ attended a Walt Disney Family Museum Panel for LGTBQ+ people but normally those panels showcase people who only work or worked at Disney, so probably they have something on development at DTVA after Steven Universe and OK KO! ended with Ian mentioning that Toby Fox helped on the music of his upcoming project.
>but normally those panels showcase people who only work or worked at Disney
She was in an episode of Amphibia, so chances are that's what that was for.
i thought she got burned out same as zach did, the last i saw from her was that she was learning to play the guitar.
tbf it doesn't seem like a great enviroment to create a new cartoon right now, even pitches from people like mccracken and faust are getting shitcanned left and right
mostly she made the blonde chick lesbo with some self projecting and everyone got big mad about it. also drew a cringe trans marco fanart
>mostly she made the blonde chick lesbo with some self projecting and everyone got big mad about it. also drew a cringe trans marco fanart
People were mad at her LONG before that, you dishonest bastard. The second half of Star vs is such a massive shitshow the lesbian pandering doesn't even come up much in discussion.
oh, really? i didn't even watch the show, but i kept seeing endless threads of the blonde chick
Ah, my apologies, I assumed you were just being disingenuous.
In any case, Jackie was the designated "waifu" character and a fan favorite since season 1. People REALLY liked her, partially because she felt like a subversion of the usual romantic tropes. She was the rival love interest, but was also a genuinely good person, so Star didn't actually have much ground to stand on. She even hooked up with Marco during season 2, and was a vital part of Marco's character growth.
At the start of season 3, Marco ended up acting supremely OOC just for them to break up for the sake of Starco endgame, and it was just the first warning of the whole show falling apart for the sake of shipping bullshit. The whole lesbian thing happened at the end of S4, by which case everyone was already too burned by the show to care.
that makes sense
every thread said to stop watching at the end of s3 or else
I'd argue Battle for Mewni, which is the season 2 finale, is the perfect stopping point. There's almost nothing worth watching in Season 3 outside of maybe Queen Eclipsa, who's a top tier design and character concept utterly squandered by the show's writing.
>tbf it doesn't seem like a great enviroment to create a new cartoon right now, even pitches from people like mccracken and faust are getting shitcanned left and right
Depends where you’re at. I say that because it seems the only network/studio that still does original programming is Disney TVA as they have some new shows coming up. Which makes this
make even more sense. Maybe Ian and Rebecca are trying to pitch on DTVA
Agreed. Steven Universe is the only kids cartoon I’ve seen in recent years that actually felt like it was made with queer themes built into its storytelling. For all of the show’s many flaws, you can tell Rebecca Sugar had a specific vision and a story she wanted to tell. She wasn’t just putting her shipping fanfic to animation.
Her greatest downfall is that she became too self conscious and was worried that the fandom wouldn’t understand her work. She tried too hard to be a voice for everyone, when that’s simply impossible. Hence, her show began to spiral out of control. But, regardless of the show’s execution, you can tell she’s 100% sincere about her art.
I wholeheartedly agree. I don't feel an ounce of empathy for Sabrina and her canceled project.
>Unironically using the term "storybros"
just admit you hate men already, jesus christ
its funny I've taken a few classes in high school and college(i was even the only guy in one of the classes) and never once felt alienated in those classes.
My problem with Cotugno is mostly this one when they started to attack the Spongebob crew with indirects over the fish lady desing on the "My Leg" episode they lost their respect for me alongside their moronic takes like hating the Joker beacuse being problematic, hating Sylvie from Loki, hating Beastars beacuse it dosn't feature a LGTBQ+ character and many more.
The fact that pic related was passed by Disney just beacuse they refused to make the main character more likeable beacuse test audiences found the her unlikabe makes me think that all their other projects that have been passed by Netflix,Disney,CN have always insufferable leads.
I always saw Cotugno as the Anti-Luke Weber which have similar issues of failing to get their own shows.
just by looking at that image the setting of this idea makes no sense to me. the character's outfit says "medieval fantasy" but the environment says "urban sci-fi"
The medieval period was a Catholic time, so people like her don't actually enjoy depicting the setting properly. One reason why she is incapable of getting her cartoon creation going despite all her privilege and connections
"Gay vibes" come from normal things like being a confused and lost youth, which are corrupted by gay culture
The animation industry is full of spoiled kids, you're not getting to the top without being a more spoiled kid
>Hating Beastars beacuse it dosn't feature a LGTBQ+ character and many more.
But Louie has a very gay vibe with Legoshi specially on the second season finale of the Anime.
>they they they
There is no such thing. c**tugno is a female whether she likes it or not.
Kindly frick off back whence you came and then have a nice day.
Their webcomic gives you very red flags in why they handling a 7-11 serialized show won't fricking work in terms of narration and storytelling,they should stick to Directing and Storyboarding with some Graphic Novels if they want to have some projects of their own.
I read her webcomic The Glass Scientists and it wasted potential. You have a bunch of mad scientists in the Victorian Era and instead of focusing on weird gadgets or experiments, you're going to make the plot revolve around the interracial romance between the main lead and his broken buck.
I remember reading it back in its early pages. It seemed promising to me cause of the setting and its inspirations. Doesn't help that I had an itch for Victorian Era stories at the time so I followed it for a while. I don't know if it's changed nowadays, but I remember feeling the Jekyll and Hyde stuff felt too "safe" to me. Hyde seemed more like a party guy instead of an outlet for Jekylls violent urges.
I know its a webcomic adaption so I can't expect it to be a perfect adaption since other characters got changed like Frankenstein. I think the references just felt more subdued for a story about mad scientists, so it wasn't my thing.
I always thought her webcomic was a good example of why she would be good as a show runner, since she’s at least got a solid work ethic and consistency. Compare that to a guy like Hirsch.
>I always thought her webcomic was a good example of why she would be good as a show runner, since she’s at least got a solid work ethic and consistency.
Well if it was an indie-project beacuse excs would make many changes.
The last sentence from the article snippet really does just make her sound like someone who'd be miserable to be around.
>Sabrina Cotugno is a neurotic social drain to be around
wow who would've guessed
>she's also annoying, racist, sexist
Remember when those words had meaning? Your post didn't explain how she's any of those things, go back to Kiwi Farms with that shit
>ChristinaTasty
>thinking those words have no meaning
It is incredibly obvious what that post means with the usage of those worse, b***h is screaming for White/Colonizer dick. I'd be surprised if she had sexual experience with anything that can handle the sun for longer than an hour
>Your post didn't explain how she's any of those things
She's one of those people who often uses "white" and "male" (unless you're trans) in a derogatory way. I don't give a shit about the new, made-up definition of racism that involves power or whatever, she frequently hates on groups of people and that makes her prejudice.
>All these "focused on diversity" artists really just can't admit that they just wanna see more cute girls and only girls making out in cartoons like in anime.
ftfy, you'd think fujos would be way more keen on prettyboys being cute with each other but it's surprisingly void in cartoons
Oh thank God
Yes. I feel bad for everyone in the industry. Animation's getting shafted hard.
yeah, I'm not Sabrina's biggest fan but it's a shame to see original ideas continue to get thrown o—
>it was going to be a woke bastardization of a popular IP
never mind, good riddance
kek based zeslav is finally getting rid of the c*lart trash
Only by virtue of getting rid of absolutely everything. That's like saying "Thank god the hurricane took destroy that one noisy neighbor's house." when obliterated the entire neighborhood.
>That's like saying "Thank god the hurricane took destroy that one noisy neighbor's house." when obliterated the entire neighborhood.
It's more like saying "Thank god the hurricane destroyed that one neighborhood that's like 80% shit."
WB is not 80% shit.
Right, it's closer to 90% nowadays.
Oh no, Sabc**t's project got cancelled? Oh my gosh, that's so sad
What has she worked on before?
Star Vs and very early Owl House but she’s more known for being an embarrassment on social media than anything she’s done creatively
Isn't She hated in the animantion industry that even the most woke sjw animators hate her
most shows die in development, it's nothing to be sad about. it's very rare that anything actually gets greenlit in the animation industry. and if a show makes it to air it's only through sheer luck
This loser can get fricked. She ruined Star vs. the Forces of Evil, and I'm pretty certain she had plenty of a say in The Owl House.
Get her out of the industry. She's fricking cancer for cartoons.
>She ruined Star vs. the Forces of Evil
What did she do on that show? Have to say it's one of the worst endings I've seen for a story in a long time.
Racism and Mewmans=bad subplot, retconning the monsters being evil, Eclipsa being uwu so innocent, Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy, no more Ludo, the ending
>Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy
That put so many things in the previous seasons in a much worse context, and proves she gave Marco a lot more trouble on purpose with her bullshit. It also makes that end of the year party stuff much more selfish too
>Star was totally merely pretending to be ditzy
I really hate that people took this line at face value when it's immediately followed up by Star being a ditz and not knowing it. This was just a case of Star being an unreliable narrator.
>I'm just pretending not to understand things!
>Also, the walk signal is an actual person!
It's like readers can't understand things unless they make it 110% straightforward.
Well that actually makes a lot more sense qnd fitsnin with Star's character. By the end of the show every sperg here took everything the show spat out in the worst possible way and assumed the worse so I'm not surprised shit like this flew over people's heads. Literal blind rage
>qnd fitsnin
excuse me?
What part of 'qnd fitsnin' did you not understand? I was pretty clear about what i meant.
It's hard not to take everything at its worst possible value when the end is a literal genocide
Pretty much EVERYTHING about seasons 3 and 4 can be directly pointed back at her. She wrote some of the worst episodes in the series, and directed the majority of season 4.
Who is this again?
Twitter moron that was a director for Star vs. the Forces of Evil and The Owl House. Word around the studio is that she directed the later seasons of the former.
She's notorious for,
1) Posting on twitter how she remained a virgin until college, then her first boyfriend gave her crabs and then dumped her. This is the person in charge of directing a shipping show such as Star vs. seasons 3 and 4.
2) Prosecuting Seddm, a tumblr theorizer guy for Star vs., after he edited a screenshot from the show where Marco is pulling down the neck of his hoodie in frustration and Star is looking at him a bit lecherously. Seddm removed Marco's t-shirt in that screenshot, therefore Sabrina crusaded against him, calling him a pedophile and saying that her "lawyer boyfriend" would prosecute him.
Of course, Seddm never faced any charges, but lol imagine being such an unhinged c**t and getting the director's role for the shipping cartoon.
remind me again please
What’s the difference between S1+2 Star Vs and S3+4?
Season 1 and 2 were episodic comedies with wacky jokes and gags everywhere. Season 3 and 4 were season long story arcs that went full shipping drama and changed the whole monster part of the story to an analog of colonization and minorities being oppressed by Americans. And that whole story arc largely went nowhere because the storyboarders in charge of individual episodes were not on the same page and they kept spinning the narrative in different competing directions.
>Season 1 and 2 were episodic comedies with wacky jokes and gags everywhere
Which were also pretty unfunny so this show was a failure all around
Season 2 started to introduce some dramatic elements and what seemed like long-form storytelling with Glossryk's book and Star's crush on Marco...and then these ideas were abandonned.
>first boyfriend gave her crabs
I thought it was HPV?
she is also known for forming up cliques among the Disney TVA staff and specifically excluding people she does not personally like, turning the place into a highschool.
>them
Who's the other one?
I'm just waiting for Zaslav to put Cartoon Network out of it's misery
Rot.
How true is that her participation caused a decline in the show's history and characters or is just a thing of the threads?
At least it seems she's taking this with a measure of grace that comes with maturity and experience. Maybe. It's certainly reserved for someone with her reputation.
The hard times are coming, the first time for a lot of them. Perhaps it's what we need.
>The hard times are coming, the first time for a lot of them. Perhaps it's what we need.
I was expecting more of these types of cancelations to continue. I think a lot of people were waiting for something huge to happen for years now to the industry. To think it would be a merger that would send so many shows onto the chopping block.
>To think it would be a merger that would send so many shows onto the chopping block.
Not so surprising; the aftermath of a merger is often a review of practices and priorities and often results in changes.
What project, The Lesbian Show Starring Lesbians?
I think it was yet another Thundercats reboot
it's amazing how fast WB turned into the public enemy.
it's as good a time as any to actively boycott them.
>turned into the public enemy
You’re acting as if the average person gives a shit
It's not amazing at all. David went and deleted a bunch of their bad shows that nobody likes, which they used for easy money and to hang out with their friends. Therefore, they hate him, and they will easily hate you for doing less.
Funniest thing is that these people in the industry will make a complete failure, make $150,000 doing so, and will go on Twitter and cry about how little they make. So glad that they're going through this and look forward to more in the future
Based
shame. I always love to see old shit done better.
Good. Stupid b***h ruined Star Vs.
No, she ruined star vs. I hope she never lands a project
Hard for me to care about this when I don't know what it was even going to be about in the first place
Cartoons die God laughs
>Magical Girl Friendship Squad
Jesus christ, is that really the final title they went with? That's just a generic descriptor.
I didn't think it had a great premise either.
>What if Sailor Moon, but stoners?
Pic related is the creator so is anyone surprised?
Whatever, she ain't no Faust
That's a shame. It's been about 10 years since her student film. I look forward to her next (successful) project.
How's the woke purge going? Still in full swing as the media dinosaurs try to stem their money hemorrhage now that the money belt is tightening?
It's not a scorched earth purge. Velma survived it somehow even though it was rumored to be one of the first post-merger cancellations.
>them
>turns out Sabrina is going trans too
Not surprised
It's hilarious seeing man-hating feminists troon out.
Really lends credence to that whole "penis envy" thing.
>didnt even change obviously female name
trannies really need to gatekeep better.
Was this the person who was more-or-less the showrunner for SVTFOE's final season?
Like, it sucks that the show got Zaslaved, but still.
>nefcys cuck fetish extended to her directing role
wow
Nothing of value was lost.
Who and who?
>Sabrina Cotugno
Is she the one that made that frisky knight lesbian?
Yep. Apparently test audiences found the main character annoying when the pilot was made at DTVA.
How many times has this b***h gone to different studios, gotten projects vaguely greenlit/deals vaguely signed, and then had it all shit the bed?
I really really doubt I'd like anything she'd make but its kinda sad how many times this keeps happening to her.Or maybe it keeps happening to her because she's impossible to work with or something
The story so far, she had a development deal with Disney after working in The Owl House (season 1) which resulted in nothing. Then she moved to Netflix and landed a development deal as well which resulted in nothing. And now she was working for CN which resulted in nothing.
She's either cursed or just not good at leading projects. I wonder she's gonna sell out and try to pitch something for Paramount+
They tried Netflix 2 times and in both deals it went to nowhere lol.
P+ doesn't have an original animation division, everything still goes through either Nick or MTV/Comedy Central (which have essentially merged on the content development front)
Sabrina would have to be smoking crack to think she could get her kind of show made at Nick so I doubt that'll happen
>She's either cursed or just not good at leading projects. I wonder she's gonna sell out and try to pitch something for Paramount+
>Sabrina would have to be smoking crack to think she could get her kind of show made at Nick so I doubt that'll happen
I mean look at Nefcy's deal with Nickelodeon from 2020 who haven't gotten a greenlight after 3 years.
Still wonder why Nefcy didn't ink a deal with Disney despite Star Vs bringing tons of money like The Houghton Brothers did..
Alex Hirsch hasn't gotten a show off the ground in the 6 years since gravity falls ended despite inking deals with bith fox and netflix. And his show is still the most popular thing to comeout of Disney channel since P&F
Nefcy had a kid towards the end of the show and wanted to take time off to raise her kid. It wasn't a coincidence that Star was kind of baby crazy towards the end of season 4.
Nefcy was probably getting dicked down on the regular during the final season of SVTFOE
>feeling bad
>for Cotungo
Not in a million years.
Looks like she got the reboot too.
How many times has she gotten fricked over at this point?
Not nearly enough.