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when you Wish upon a Weinstein
I'm hearing Hollywood wants him desperately back seeing how things are going
underrated
Many layers to this
Don't even make the connection, you'll conjure up THAT poster
fake, i muke durrenson made actual calculations and disney profited 10 million from the movie
every time Disney has another big bad bomb, we regain a portion of our dignity and testosterone
when the time comes, my people will be ready
You base your identity and self worth on -- a movie studio's finances? That's both sad and creepy.
You'll find out in 2 weeks with you back against a wall, 'comrade'
Disney lost over a billion dollars on their shit movies last year. Lord only knows how much they lost on their shit tier TV shows.
who the frick expected a haunted mansion remake to make money?
Disney is filled with people who blindly believe in brand. If it was a success before, it is a success now. They don't understand quality, only the brand matters.
The first Haunted Mansion movie bombed too though. Why they did the exact same thing again and expected different results is baffling.
Beyond that, every attempt to turn their theme park rides into movie franchises has failed except for Pirates. It's clearly never going to happen again but they just keep trying.
>pic related
These are the people working at ~~*Disney*~~ now.
>50% of characters to be LGBTQUIA and racial minorities
Did she mean "or" or are we talking literal gay Black folk
>some b***h has broken pussy with 100% defect rate and now we all need to be punished
If one of your children ends up with the gay mental illness you can consider it the fault of bad influences or media brainwashing, but if more than one succumbs you should be immediately investigated for child molestation.
wew lad
I noticed that so many mulattos identify as LGBT compared to others groups, it’s weird.
You have no cultural identity because neither the blacks nor the whites truly accept you, so you turn to the LGBT shit to fit in.
pretty much, religion is dying so if people want a place to fit in a lot of them find it in the lgbt circles that will accept them for who they are and promise them a better life after they transition.
the democratic political party has always been a religion (ie cult) for the nonreligious left. over time theyve developed smaller cults based on various identity, race, and gender politics and sometimes they fight amongst themselves.
>religion is dying
On the contrary I think that the new religion of Neoliberalism has more devoted and fanatical followers than any new religion for centuries.
I think it specifically targets zealots, bullies and mentally ill people by giving them power over society and their enemies to persecute them at their leisure for not bowing down to the new commandments and they have all the power of public and private institutions egging them on.
They have total faith in every new dictat that's handed down to them and they would openly murder their opposition if they were given the opportunity.
It’s very sad when mulattas cut their big booba off tho
Not really, brown nipples are gross
Half asians too. Google first man to give birth
Ru-fi-oooooo!
>we're nonbinary mom
>won't take hormones
100% just a gay fad like most zoomers, hopefully they'll grow out of it before doing anything permanent.
The future is going to be fricking weird when all these abused kids forcefed hormones by their attention seeking psycho mothers start turning on them.
Trans kids are the jnco jeans of this generation
The point is to prevent them from permanently harming themselves before they inevitably grow out of it
The term “pansexual child” is so satanic and evil its actually not even funny. I showed this to my mom and she said “whats wrong with that?” What the frick happened to boomers?
>child is pansexual
>illegal for me to frick the child
When will this oppression of the child's sexuality end?
>chuds think people are a sexual until they turn 18
yes you decide what people think
Your mother thinks of you as her child. If you were pansexual she would say she has a pansexual child.
When rufo dropped these leaks from Disney it was so absurd, I still almost can't believe that this is who they let run the company
Who the frick is her child being pansexual with?
The family dog
God. Imagine hitting middle school and realizing that you have a peepee instead of a vegana and that all your stuff is frilly girly stuff and all the other boys with peepees are completely different and that you still don't understand those doctors visits where your mom makes you say you're a girl so you get shots that make you feel funny and bad and you just go with it because it's all you've ever known.
>pansexual child
she has abused, or facilitated the abuse of those kids
Hitler
Was
Right
Unironically
The movie itself was fine and would have done better with an October release but the greatest geniuses of our time thought it would be a good idea to send a spoopy family-friendly adventure thing to theaters in fricking July. You can see the results of that for yourself
It was released in the summer so that it would hit Disney+ by October.
Disney apparently. They're dumb enough to put a Halloween themed movie in the middle of the summer for some fricking reason
a bunch of braindead elderly israelites (mostly female)
But Disney shills told me I was wrong and da lil nogmaid was a smashing success.
>da lil nogmaid was a smashing success.
Yea...not so much. ~~*Hollywood*~~ accounting is shady as frick, so the numbers on that chart aren't 100% accurate, but they're pretty close. The chart also deals solely with box office earnings, and not any of the merchandising, dvd sales, or licensing out to other sources. Regardless, box office earnings is the most important, as investors want their money back sooner, rather than later.
I don't think you're saying this, exactly, but no one is buy lil hoodmaid blurays and merch
DVD sales are basically non-existent, especially for newer movies. And has this movie even been licensed out anywhere or is it only on Disney plus? Also, merchandise, especially for an established IP like the little mermaid is irrelevant. Disney was already selling little mermaid merchandise before this movie, and I doubt this movie gave it large enough of a bump to make a profit overall.
Where the frick have you been all these years?? Streaming killed Physical media and movies barely make anything off them. If anything, classic movies that get remastered are now making mint with new physical media releases. And no one was gonna buy Nogmaid on home video anyway, regardless of era. And finally, Disney killed their own post-release money making deals when they launched Disney+. Earlier, Netflix was paying them a ton of cash for every brand new big budget release that came out of Disney Studio.
shit, they made another haunted mansion?
Marketing numbers are always bullshit
>it cost twice as much as the budget!
>it cost half as much as the budget!
>uhh because I said so !
And then these budget numbers don’t include the tie in marketing that children’s movies usually use to pay for the movie or tax write offs
Basically deboonked chudcels fudged doomer numbers
>says this
>woke movie suddenly doesnt do too bad
>HAHA SUCK IT CHUDS THE NUMBERS ARE TRUE
It's really weird to me how someone can decide to intentionally be a disgusting creature hated by all mankind and be proud of it
Maybe these creatures were abused as kids?
>Trooncel waits 30 years until his cartoon made arrested development millennials finally breaks even
Heh take that chuds *coughs and dies of the covid2 vax*
Depends on the movie and the studio. For bigger movies, the marketing budget is usually half of the production budget, whereas smaller-budget movies have marketing budgets equal to the product budget. For something like Blair Witch Project, the marketing budget was like 1000x its production budget.
For Wish, we know they went all out and the marketing budget may very well equal its production budget.
$100m is the bare minimum cost of marketing and distribution for a major motion picture these days.
Eh, it’s not so cut and dry like that. Not all marketing budgets are half the production budget. Especially for movies with large budgets. Most movies are within a 50-100m range, so I’d shave off at least 200m from that graph. Also the take home pay isn’t .5 of the worldwide box office, it’s 60% if the domestic box office and 40% of the internet box office, and those are rarely 50/50 splits, but I can’t be bothered to break down every movie on that list. Also, the reported budgets aren’t all paid for by Disney. They get tax credits, in the 10s of millions sometimes, depending on where they film. For example, Disney got a 55 million dollar subsidy from the UK government for the marvels. So saying they lost 1240, over a billion is pretty inaccurate, however they definitely lost hundreds of millions of dollars, definitely over half a billion.
>Eh, it’s not so cut and dry
Agree. Those are estimates based on averages. Some films marketing costs are as much as production costs or higher. Production costs are notoriously vague, as are total sales, bonuses, etc.... However, I stand by that chart and the process, as the results reflect many of the same things reported in the industry.
Disney has also been selling streaming rights for movies to themselves and listing these fake transactions as profit. Very shady!
South Park's satire of Kathleen Kennedy was the best thing they've done in years. I couldn't believe they had read on the online b***hing about her.
>Put a chick in it and make her gay and lame!
I can't remember any songs from Wish.
Maybe they learned their lesson for the Acolyte
Wasn't she his assistant?
>big wide head
>last name = Headland
>10 years ago marketing budget was openly accepted as being the same as production budget for hollywood movies
>now they convinced the public to believe it to be half of that so all their bombs don't look worse than they actually are
you gays actually fell for the hollywood ~~*accountants*~~ and it's embarrassing
journos and normalgays buying that lie is expected but this board repeats it too
the Barbie marketing budget was so astronomical that their billy wasn't even that impressive
>Lord only knows how much they lost on their shit tier TV shows.
Uhh yeah those aren't doing too hot either
Doesn't the US have 200m households? Those numbers are apocalyptic!
365m, actually
HOUSEholds
not peopleholds
Disney losing a billion is like you losing $100. It may feel bad, but in the long run it makes no difference.
Can add the next Star Wars to this list since it's directed by a radical feminist who said she likes to make men uncomfortable and is a continuation of Rey and the awful sequel trilogy. For KK taking a pause a few years ago with SW movies and israeliteger saying they need to be less divisive and admitting to making mistakes in the context of politics, they sure as frick haven't learned anything at all.
>they sure as frick haven't learned anything at all.
They have, they just don't care. They're using other peoples money to make garbage, not their own. It was recently released that the current board members of Disney own very, very, VERY little Disney stock, so they have no problem losing other peoples money.
Can’t believe some boomers allow their retirement plans to be invested into this shit
Biden made sure to tie in the 401k with the ESG shit, he gets to prop up gay Black person propaganda and defraud the millions of Americans that voted for him out of their retirement at the same time.
Truly based
Are you even allowed to choose when you invest in Vanguard or Blackrock? It's not like Vanguard or Blackrock cares since they can just tell the government that their losses is the government's problem and the government has to bail them out or else they got a lot of angry voter boomers on their hands.
>HOLY FRICK GUYS CHECK OUT THHIS YOUTUBER TOTALLY EXPOSE DISNEY LOL THEY ARE GOING BANKRUPT IN ONLY TWO SHORT WEEKS KATHLEEN KENNEDY FIRED SOON YIDSNEY SHILLS STAY LOSING LOLOLOLO
>disney stock up 27% on the year
Up 30% after dropping 60% at a 9 year low
Lmao leftoids are braindead
Make a left-winger deep throat a corporation faster than saying "go woke, go broke"
two more weeks, Niatoos
You're two weeks too late bootlicker
How many times have they made Haunted Mansion?
The TV shows are automatically entire at a loss since Disney+ works at a loss.
This are mostly the correct estimates. I'd lower the Marvels budget to 220 and maybe lower some of the marketing estimates but it's still 1.1 to 1.2 billion loss.
220 is including the tax breaks, but without the reshoots. It is far worse than what we know it is.
was the indiana jones that bad?
Incredibly bad
They literally tried to replace him with a female character straight up
>was the indiana jones that bad?
It was basically a straight up character assassination. Ford should be hanged by the neck until dead for agreeing to do what he did.
the little mermaid made 550 million which calls into question the credibility of this picture
The earnings is the cut Disney got from the box office, not the box office totals.
This entire post calls into question the credibility of your literacy
that indiana jones budget is a lie
the budget was 400
it was a bigger bomb than the marvels
>create shit that panders to less than 1% of your audience
>alienate the other 99%
>surprised when your company starts hemorrhaging money
Disney needs a full replacement of all it's corporate monkeys. Every single one of them.
*sigh* somehow frozen 3 entered production
Give us the war story that setting deserves
So its over then isn't it? Not many are buy the bluray or get a Disney sub to watch this. Ita jover
This is the audiences fault. Particularly straight white males.
do you really mean that senpai?
I hope those bastards are arrested for their crimes!
>Falling for your own propaganda
Chudcels NEED basic critical thinking skills.
Disney takes 65% of the domestic for their tentpole films.
Even at its most generous, Disney loses money on Wish. They'd somehow have to strongarm an 85% profit split from both domestic and international markets for this shit to not lose money from the box office, and we all know that that ain't happening.
Sure, I have no doubt they lost money. It's just dumb seeing people making up numbers with potential hundreds of millions of dollars in variance as if that's useful.
People from places like Disney and Sweet Baby say shit like this on a weekly basis so let's not pretend that it isn't happening.
Good to know that even Cinemaphile is moronic enough to just get mad at a headline without figuring out if it's real. Pic related, it's more articles from this website.
>you're dumb for thinking this particular liberal gobledyasiatic is implausible
everything liberals say is bullshit.
Let's review some greatest hits:
>flooding the country with Black folk and mexicans is good for the economy!
>acktchually there's no such thing as a woman
>goddess gaia is wrathful at white man. pay more taxes and repent!
None of this shit makes a lick of sense nor does it have any bearing on reality. They're just political postures phrased like term papers.
this is actually a clever insight
It's not just that black dolls are ugly, they have actually gained the connotation of schoolmarm scold over the years.
>you're dumb for thinking this particular liberal gobledyasiatic is implausible
Yes. Gonna ignore the rest of your cope. Seek help.
oh frick off back to r*ddit you no-life baiting homosexual
>man falls for rage bait
>gets told he fell for rage bait
>gets mad and instead of admitting he was wrong he doubles-down
Cope and seethe.
>man leaves r*ddit
>sees wrong thing
>spergs out
>a bit more
>more sperging
>meme comeback
what's next you stupid transparent hack? "I accept your concession"?
just go home to your hugbox
Let's not pretend ESG and DEI aren't a real thing. And it is a huge financial drain. It was so bad that Blackrock had to make a statement that they are backing away because investors were getting pissed. But we everyone knows DEI shit is still going on in all sectors.
The best part of your take away is you thinking people are mad when most people laugh at the headline
Lack of humor in a person is a good sign someone is just legitimately evil
The fact they're responding at all is fricking insane, especially when you look deeper into the website it's an entire troll farm that just wants reactions. The website larps as run by black liberals, but a simple "who is" shows that it was made in Iceland. It literally only exists to frick with peoples' minds. Just posting the headline here is enough for people to think it's real or real enough.
I don't care about the fake article. I do care about the parts that are true. Like ESG existing and the hiring practices they force.
>government backed agenda to give financial incentives to every industry for hiring everyone except straight white males (illegal hiring practices)
We didn't even have to do anything. You brought this on yourselves.
We're reaching levels of honk that shouldn't even be possible
>You're a terrorist if you don't pay to watch shit like magical Black folks
If it were a black Hogwarts in the hood, it would make fricking bank. Don't act like it won't.
>If thing was different thing, thing would have made money!
OMG, this changed my life. People don't hate me because I am annoying butthole. They are just plain old terrorists who terrorize me. It is my right to be beloved and they are terrorizing me.
>Anti-woke economic terrorist
Put that on my resume
tfw we’re terrorists
I purposefully avoid products that have "black owned business" on the label 🙂
That's just common sense, though. If the business can't sell you on its products or service, and has to resort to imply that you are racist if you don't support their business, then you know they probably suck.
You…you just eroded poor leshawne and jamal’s portfolios of color. Your discrimination against black geniuses is destroying this planet’s future. You are who Harry Potter and Spider-Man and Star Wars warned us about!
I did the same when buying coffee recently. One brand had trans flags and that signature globohomosexual people art all of the packaging. Pass.
Do you realise how many P2P-loan scams it will take to make up the damage you inflicted upon the bipoc community?
same and I doubt we're the only ones
overall I'd be willing to bet that the "black owned" label is more of a drag than a multiplier
Same
They're fine. They've got insurance. I've been assured of that.
It will be hard for Disney to build back their trust with consumers though. Assuming they even want to try
BISMILLAH
Aloha Snackbar
damn, we're so powerful that we can make huge movie projects fail really bad just by posting a few mean comments online. feels so good chudbros
Anons live rent free in the heads of Hollywood writers alike, they will clearly state "Cinemaphile trolls" by name in whatever slop they work on writing it into their canon
>Portfolios of color
That's a fake article, by the way.
https://afru.com/anti-woke-economic-terrorism/
That site is crazy
LOOOOOOL
>Economic thinkers like Hasan Piker suggest one short-term solution for revitalizing ESG
That's a satire article.
>reddit, the KKK and Cinemaphile are all on the same side
What a time to be alive
>WHAA WHAA ITS HATEFUL NOT TO WATCH OUR MOVIE SLOP WHAA WHAA
pathetic
Can we take a step back and admit this is masterful trolling? I wish I thought of economic terrorism.
>literally do nothing
>cost a bunch of shitskins five gorillion dollars
how do chuds have so much power? how can they be stopped?
i did the same thing in regards to the vaccine. i killed millions, including myself (apparently)
I cri evry tiem.
>call it what it is: terrorism
SIRS BHARAT NEED THE MONEY SIRS, BHARATS LIKE TO DANCE AND SMILE SIRS
>having to make fake article titles to feel like you're winning
that's sad
>*flop flop flop flop flop flop flop flop*
GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT GET BANKRUPT
heh
Die, Mouse. Die. Frick off back to making low-budget kidkino like The Apple Dumpling Gang.
Wasn't this supposed to be their big centennial celebration film? KWAB
It got out of theaters after first week of december it was supposed to stay throughout christmas and new year's eve
>Dan Murrell is a film critic, producer, writer, presenter, editor and was a key contributor to Screen Junkies from 2012 - 2020. He was a writer and producer on the four-time-Emmy nominated comedy series Honest Trailers.
Wow. What a source.
I only watched the trailer. How did the premise work? She wanted to grant everyone's wish all the time? How does that work? Don't some wish contradict each other, like if two people both wish to be President? Or what about wishes that harm others, such as I wish my dad would die? Or even wishes that directly harm others, such as "I wish I had a billion dollars" (which would cause inflation and hurt everyone not wishing for more money) or "I wish my daughter gets a kidney transplant soon", which could cause someone who was higher on the list to get skipped over?
ayo i wish dis homie shut up fr
It is not really addressed. The conflict wasn't about her wanting to grant all of the wishes but it was caused by the villain, king of the realm, who would make his subject forget about they dreams as they surrendered them to him, and he would grant one any now and then as long as it ensured his rule. When he is defeated all the inhabitants remember their dreams and aspiration and are told to work towards them. Protagonist is granted a magic wand that makes her the fairy godmother. How she will go about making wishes real is not addressed
>anyone who gives their wish to the King forgets what their wish was but still want it fulfilled
>if the wish is crushed, they suffer grief
>prot wants her 100 year old dad's wish fulfilled
>it aint
>she wants him to have the wish back
>she frees the wishes from the King
Its a bit contrived but the character is described as an "activist" as if thats a personality. I think it'd be better if it was simply
>king gets the wish
>king decides which wish gets granted
>turns out all the wishes he wants granted are those that benefit him
>wishes that are not granted will never come true
>prot has to steal that wish back for her father's sake
Still contrived
Reminder that The Marvels isn't called a bomb on Wikipedia because it upset the Marveldrones
>It is the lowest-grossing film in the MCU,[121] and underperformed at the box-office, falling short of its reported break-even point of $439.6 million, while reportedly needing to earn around $700 million to become profitable.[2][122] Some publications have labeled the film the first box-office bomb of the MCU franchise.[123] Despite this, it surpassed A Wrinkle in Time (2018) to become the highest-grossing film directed by a Black woman.[124]
>220m budget
lol
>mfw a massive flop that lost money hand over fist is the highest-grossing film directed by a Black woman
>>mfw a massive flop that lost money hand over fist is the highest-grossing film directed by a Black woman
Beep beep Richie
Even funnier is a wrinkle in time was also a huge bomb and lost disney over 100 million.
>The Marvels still not on the list of biggest box office bombs
>"reliable source" needs to report on it
>"reliable sources" kiss the ring of the mouse
>weasely Wikipedia editors will always find obscure rules about why anyone who reports on it isn't "reliable" enough
>history will effectively forget The Marvels bombed due to an axis of Disney loyalists on the internet in all the right places
The wonders of the modern world.
did white men enjoyed the movie? If no, then the movie is a success
It's over
Haven’t the libs regressed to a more pessimistic stance on race? That is you can only identify with your own race, which is why they’re pushing for more representation. So why are they surprised when white people don’t watch it? Isn’t the whole theory that POC don’t want to watch movies with white leads?
No you're way off. White people are to admire black culture, hence why Americans have bbc infatuation
They wanted white liberal women to take their white kids to see this and buy them ugly black dolls. Even those women wanted no part in it kek
>Sad News
Yeah I'm shattered; the souless multi billion dollar company is losing money. Oh, the horror!
>disney+ will pay an unprecedent $300 million dollars for streaming rights to Wish, believing that the 100th anniversary movie is extremely important
>wish is now in profitable territory
Chuds btfo'd.
>disney paid themselves 300m dollars for the streaming rights of their own movie
Chudbros… it’s over…
>disney+ will pay an unprecedent $300 million dollars for streaming rights to Wish
So, Disney paid Disney three hundred million dollars for the rights to stream a Disney movie on Disney's streaming platform? Do I have that right?
the reporting around disney flops has been so dishonest
it's amazing the truth ever comes out at all
I remember how they waited until no one was paying attention anymore and then tried to persuade everyone that south korea somehow made up the $150M shortfall elemental had
People care so little about this movie that there is barely anyone talking about how big of a bomb it is. People dunked on The Flash for months for it bombing, but every Disney bomb is just ignored for some reason.
Modern Disney has more shills, both paid and unpaid. Marvels, Wish and Indiana Jones 5 are all among the biggest flops of recent history but the industry trades are afraid to label them as such.
>Indiana Jones 5
I keep forgetting this exists
It's an interesting phenomenon. Decades later people still joke about Waterworld.
>It's an interesting phenomenon. Decades later people still joke about Waterworld.
Reminder that the Waterworld show at Universal Studios has been selling out every performance since 1995.
It's a legitimately fun show with water, stunts, and EXPLOSIONS. You really can't get that anywhere else.
One of the guys that plays the Deacon at Universal Hollywood has been in the show since opening day. Bet he never expected that job to turn into a nearly 30 year career.
Apathy is much worse than being hated
Disney shills unironically. When Indy 5 and The Marvels lost twice as much money as the flash (each) they stopped talking about flops completely. We barely have box office threads anymore if you noooootice
The toys are still fully stocked at my target, nobody bought any, even during the Christmas rush
It would’ve sold if they made the girl white. Nobody wants a black dreadlocked princess doll
Another stinker for the woketards
next time bxby
i clapped when it turned out the black girl is actually the fairy godmother from cinderella
what is this from
That shitty live-action Pinocchio that Disney put out that no one remembers because Del Toro's Pinocchio was better.
That weird Pinocchio movie from a couple years ago
Laughed all over again at the top right one, thanks anon.
What ever happened to this movie?
Did it come out yet?
I'm sure the new star wars feminist lesbian show will make that money back for them
I dont know what they call that art style but It looks like amateur blender renders with a shitty shader slapped on to me
>Go to theaters back in December
>People are only in line for Godzilla and the Heron
>Every Hollywood movies had empty screenings
It's never been so over
>anniversary movie is biggest bomb in studio's history
damn, that's rough
The Marvels won
Imagine an animated movie that is supposed to be your big, bombastic, legendary, go-down-in-history-tier celebration movie. It's your business's business to make such animated movies that damn near every single person can enjoy. Imagine doing everything you can to ensure it is instead a boring, slapped-together, low-effort, pile of shit that is forgettable and also loses you money.
Disney's worst nightmares have been realized. His dream ruined by the tribe, his company turned into a cringe, laughingstock of a money-pit, and his legacy in ruins.
At this point it would be more profitable to scuttle the company, sell off its assets, and have whoever picks up what's left change the name of the company. There really is no Disney anymore.
It's honestly hard to wrap my head around the current state that Disney is in. Back in the 80's and 90's they defined kids entertainment, every kid grew up watching Disney movies on VHS and a trip to Disney World was like the greatest thing possible. Seeing how increasingly irrelevant they're becoming and how they're destroying their own legacy IPs is astounding. There will be marketing textbooks about this era of companies imploding and Disney will be one of the prime examples.
>the ~~*(marketing texbooks*~~)) will oddly not mention it, and just blame the fans
>because Disney owns the textbook companies now
They'll like skip over 2019-2025 and just talk about the Marvel domination then skip ahead to whatever the next thing is.
>and then ai killed off Hollywood in 2028 after a 15 domination by superhero films. Nothing could be done to prevent this.
See
What makes you think it's not already dead?
All they have to do is stop making the characters black and gay
No, they can't write for shit no matter if there are gay Black folk or not.
If it has a pretty white princess with long silky hair, kids will want to see it even if the writing is shit
>Wish did as well as Princess and the Frog
Is this tard comparing the claimed raw box office total from a 2009 release and a 2023 release and pointing to "same number, so equal"?
Probably just saying that both did poorly and sold little merch and nobody was invested in them. Turning splash mountain into that is such a moronic decision from disney
>silly quack quack movie
I watch
>princess slop that from the cover looks like one I've seen before
I dont watch
Princess and the Frog was pretty good btw.
yes the moron there is
Agreed; it was a fun movie. I liked the scene with the frog hunters.
At least Tiana is somewhat liked that they use her in merchandising and even the Disney cruises use her as a motif for southern/cajun restaurants.
I don't see Wish, Strange World, or any of these modern Disney shit getting a place anywhere.
This. Wish has a generic-looking ugly freckled mutt with big lips as a protagonist. If I wanted to see that I would go to war-mart
>The simple truth is Migration had an animal lead and Wish had a minority lead. Wish did as well as Princess and the Frog which was to be expected.
>PATF made $271 million on a budget of $105 million
>Moana made $687.2 million on a budget of $175 million
>Coco made $814.3 million on a budget of $225 million
Why does this genre of moron refuse to check any of the random shit they make up? No one saw Wish because it looked like a boring piece of shit. Migration at least looks like it was made for children, not for maladapted manchildren like Wish was
It didn't just look boring, it also looks really bad. Like unfinished, unrendered 3D that they try to pass off as "muh watercolor aesthetics". They don't know what watercolor looks like if that's what they are coping it to be.
How long was this movie in production? Because it seems like they did a rush job because they realised the anniversary was coming in a few months.
We have fatigue. After George floyd
Moana and Coco aren't the same because blacks are objectively the least liked race globally. Princess and the Frog was a financial disappointment for Disney. When you factor in advertising budget, not just the production budget, it outright lost money according to The New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/business/media/at-disney-a-celebration-that-was-a-long-time-coming.html
Frog Princess had more problems than the lead being black, it came along when CG animation was the hot new thing and seemed "old fashioned" to audiences, plus they got Randy Newman for the soundtrack and it just didn't have any of those memorable sing-along songs like the Renaissance era movies. I don't remember any of the music except the chorus of the villain song.
Also for me at least Tiana spending most of the movie as a frog was a disappointing bait-and-switch, I never was a fan of talking animal movies. One of the main supporting characters is a fricking fly. I get that they did it to try to appeal more to boys, but their other princess movies did just fine without those tactics. The prince was also a complete idiot.
>If it has a pretty white princess with long silky hair, kids will want to see it even if the writing is shit
Nestchads eating good
Are they seriously still pumping those movies out to this day?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swan_Princess_(film_series)
the White Dragon has awakened
didnt black cauldron or one of the movies doing bad almost tank the animation studios completely? how are they able to absorb bomb after bomb nowadays?
they had a great run from the 90s to the mid 2010s but they're fricking up hard now
how long until the strip away all the classic rides and movies from disney parks and replace them all with "updated" versions with their more woke catalogue? theyre already turning/turned splash mountain from song of the south into princess and the frog i believe.
wont be long til they take out the johnny depp robot from pirates and put in a black woman
How does a poorly made cartoon with no real star power end up losing $230m???
Are they laundering money for the Mexican cartels?
There probably is money laundering. But the biggest cost comes from how Disney makes movies. Almost everything is done stateside in expensive locations with people making good money. They constantly try to reinvent technology. Their movies often spend years in development hell. This movie, in particular, was originally envisioned to have the star be a person. Tangled had a huge budget (for the time) because they straight up scrapped the movie at one point and started over.
Merch of this movie is rough as well. Maybe the star will sell and maybe the goat will sell, but I can't see any of the cast being high demand with how ugly they are.
None of it will move lol. Recent pic
Little girls want to wear elaborate pretty princess dresses. Look at that frumpy gown that they are selling. What little girl wants to wear that?
It’s not so much the dress, it’s the dark skin, dark eyes, dark cornrow hair. If they had simply given her blue eyes I bet it would’ve given it a slight boost.
Every race around the world prefers fair skinned dolls. And in the US kids know that black = not fun and instead preachy, lesson time about racism
Meanwhile frozen dolls still sell well
And it's totally not because of creepy guys buying Elsa to cum on.
I'm reminded of a theory for the reason blonde hair evolved is that animals like bright shiny colors. And light hair colors function as a purely sexual selection trait. E.g. peawiener feathers, but hair. Stick 10 women in a line and one has blonde hair, your eyes will lock on to the bright one.
is more easy. Kids have trouble to read complex info. a white face looks more plain with light and is easy to read expressions. Black face have more info and its difficult to read expressions. Also, since 70 and 80s black color is used for plastic shit like tv controls, so kids dont see it related to persons, which is funny.
Extremely strange take. Aurora was my favorite princess as a kid because she’s the most pretty. Cinderella is also pretty, Snow White is bland. Belle is ok and Ariel is really pretty (not as pretty as Aurora) Never had much interest in Pocahontas or Jasmine as characters (Mulan is based) even though I liked those movies. Moana is all right, Coco is all right. But they do not have the pretty princess/strong prince stereotype that children love. Anyway the biggest frick up of this movie wasn’t making the protag an anachronistic black, it was getting rid of the romantic subplot.
Of this whole here selection the only thing I can see being sold is the lil' goat plushie homie. I can't see kids ever wanting anything else that's on display here
I still see Eternals stuff sometimes
Imagine the environmental destruction to create, then dispose of, this unsold junk
That is always what I think when I see these shelves upon shelves of Chinese sweatshop plastic under bright industrial lights.
Wrong, I have it on good authority that the fat asian cripple dolls are selling like hotcakes.
There is a retail chain called Marc's in Ohio. They have had Lightyear toys in closeout since shortly after the movie came out. Still there. They keep marking them down.
only good movie theyve made since tangled has been coco. everything else has been shit
Which one is Wish?
I don't even know what this movie is. I've never heard about it in my life. I haven't even seen a trailer. I haven't even seen /misc/cels whinging about it on the Internet. If in the course of this thread I come to find that OP made it up I wouldn't even be surprised
One of the greatest thing that bothered me is the girl having half straight half cornrow hair
No one in iberia at the time would have that hair style even If she's one in a million sub Saharan blackamoor there
Pissed me off more than any other aspect of the movie
To Disney, anyone who is slightly dark is considered American black and thus are given the American black aesthetics.
The movie wasn't colorful and the characters were ugly and gross.
The music was great, though.
Holy frick what were they thinking
Will Disney live to see 2030?
Yes. Their movie division is just a small part of their total corporate structure.
I bet when they pitched wish, some deluded producer must have thought that, not only it would be their biggest hit ever, but that it would also win the oscar. A perfect 100th anniversary for them, and not only was a bomb, it didn't even get nominated after all
The pitches were pretty different, i think the main family was suppose to be like the soprano's. They pretty much got rid of that and then made the MC black for oscar bait/ESG bux.
Critics generally said it was too safe and predictable, should have gone a bit edgy with Disney's Sopranos.
My goodness, I hadn’t paid much attention to the movie and didn’t realize what everyone meant when they said “unfinished.” I’m not even picky and this looks so embarrassing, like a video game from 10 years ago.
You ever notice how Youtube is absolutely drenched with homosexuals soifacing and reacting to these things when they are announced like they are gazing upon the divine face of God himself, but then the numbers drop and you find out fricking nobody went to see it? At all? And then you notice how the exact same social media personalities previously fellating this shit either go dead silent about it or start making "rant" videos calling it garbage, completely contradicting themselves?
Why is it not illegal to pretend to be enthusiastic about something while being paid to advertise it?
>Why is it not illegal to pretend to be enthusiastic about something while being paid to advertise it?
It is. It’s already illegal to get paid to promote something without saying you’re getting paid, the law’s just ignored most of the time (eg, on this shithole)
oh please say it isnt so, disney wont be able to pay any taxes again this year.
Why is every single wokeshit production full of gays and blacks turn out to be lead by a white woman? It's not actual blacks or gays doing this, it's literally ALWAYS some histrionic middle aged social media addicted prostitute.
Good. They never should have canceled Motorcity and Tron: Uprising. All their losses are karma for those cancellations.
can a biz anon qrd me on the esg fiaco? is it the sweet baby shit from vydia?
Related, but SBI is a small player. The real problems were Vanguard and Blackrock, who pretty much control all funding and investments, and they implemented DEI and ESG measures that companies must adhere to if they want funding.
SBI is just a grifter that companies can hire to raise their ESG scores so Vanguard and Blackrock will continue to invest with them.
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This is one of the best Cinemaphile memes, please never stop.
the Cartels made over 13 billion last year off human trafficking across the southern border alone.
they gotta launder that money somewhere.
Nixe
I bet they wished that didn't happen
heh
>Disney movie set in ancient spain
Cool!
>MC is a Black person and her best friend is chinese
No
Did even worse
>he came from nothing
>shows nothing about his life before he was already a gunnery dear gang and his brother was already an influential politician
>he conquered everything
>shows a single battle where the viewer has any idea that he did anything relevant
This movie showed nothing of why he accomplished anything. It was pontless
This will never stop being funny to me.
Wasn't Wrinkle in Time also a box office bomb? So now they're telling us that the highest grossing films by black women are bombs and this is somehow a good look?
Exactly
>Some people say getting your hand cut off is bad, but... uh, this one guy went feet-first into a woodchopper
>Suddenly losing your hand isn't so bad, huh?
they keep trying to buy out everything. they just spent a million dollars investing into fortnite to make disney shit in it.
how about you MAKE GOOD CONTENT.
stop trying to buy your way out or make soulless remakes
nu-disney is soulless
Make a movie about the moors being mercilessly driven from Spain like the rats they are and I’d consider watching
Lol, I forgot that Barry Keoghan was in that streaming pile of shite.
Back in the day being in a massive flop was a career killer but there are so many of them now and the nepotism game is so strong that turnover would be impossible to keep up with.
Honestly? I think in part it's because Disney stopped adapting fairy tales and moved entirely onto their procedural slop. Frozen was inspired by one of Hans Christian Andersen's stories and it's had immense impact.
have no fears
we have stories for years
Good. DEI cancer can DIE.