Say what you will about the Jurassic Park sequels, but they still had a certain quality to them that made them feel "Jurassic."
The Jurassic World trilogy doesn't have that at all and I can't pinpoint what exactly it is.
What do you think?
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>but they still had a certain quality to them that made them feel "Jurassic."
there's nothing about this scene that feels "jurassic"
Frick.The.Lost.World
Yeah but that hanging trailer scene tho
Scene was great until Vince Vaugn ruined it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpxwR_9EhlY
I thought Malcolm ruined it with that shitty cheeseburger quip.
>one guy is doing nothing with a door
>other guy hits and kicks it and it, making a visible change
>lady is moving her hand to reach the edge
>you cannot see this from the top-down perspective and it looks like she's wiggly her hand over the glass, making it look like shitty acting or bad CGI
>guy is reaching out for no reason
>oh there's something that's going to fall?
>oh it's going to fall on the glass and kill her, what a backwards way to explain what a character is doing
>guy looks at a bag when trying to save a woman?
>stuffs it under her?
>she grabs it...? Because...?!
>glass fractures and falls away
>large intact glass panel dangling in next shot
Why is this scene so awfully directed?
Why do characters keep doing things in these films without telegraphing what they are seeing or why they are doing until AFTER it solves a problem?
funfact this was the very first time i learned about CGI, there was maybe a some news show segment that talked about the making of the movie and they said basically they "drew" on the cracking glass lines around her hands and body when she falls on the glass. So you are right in that its a weird scene and exists only for the sake of movie tension
RIP Toby from the West Wing
This is not even that bad. They establish her skill early in the movie and it's a reasonable skill for a an upper class girl to have.
This, and it's in the same vein as the feel good kid power of the hacker girl from the first. Perfectly Spielbergian.
That was contrived as well.
It's contrived, but not nearly as unbelievable. Also because people don't know what the frick a unix system is.
Not him, but bullshit.
We're on the subject of raptors basically being bullet proof, but you mean to tell me that a little < 90 lbs 12 year old can send a 100 pound Velociraptor flying out a window by playing on a monkey bar?
Wait, I just realized I was talking about bulletproof raptors in another thread, not this one.
Still.
>a little < 90 lbs 12 year old can send a 100 pound Velociraptor flying out a window by playing on a monkey bar?
well yes that's called physics
The amount of energy she can impart on the raptor increases the more she spins, and unlike a punch she's putting her entire body weight into the thing.
Okay, now explain why Malcom's daughter was black.
rent free
What do you want from me? This is the most bizarre casting I've ever seen.
Don't worry anon.
The problem is he's a character with an established actor.
If they could redo it today, they'd hire someone black in his place too.
Answer the question you filthy hook nosed israelite.
Cuckold
The theory I run with is that Spielberg was self inserting as Malcolm since he just had his Black person baby in 1996.
Malcolm comes from a black family that is afflicted with vitiligo. He fricked a black woman (just like me, except 14 of them btw), and she gave birth to their daughter who broke the Malcolm family curse
He fricked a black woman you idiot. Did you really think his dick would stop at white paleontologists?
She doesn't even look biracial, she just looks black.
If it was Malcom's kid she wouldn't be darker than Wesley Snipes. The only reason that character exists is because Spielberg had just adopted this mulatto goblina prior to filming
In the novel two kids accompany Malcom; a young black boy and a red-head white girl.
Well Spieldberg paid Michael Crichton to write the JP2 book, so it still falls in line with my "diversity" theory.
Oh yeah, wasn't she trying to break into porn?
Who the frick would pay to see that thing naked?
Vince Vaughn character and that guy who got split by T-Rex literally asked that question in the movie
Honestly, there's no real explanation.
I'm pretty sure he's not married in the movie, so it's not his wife's kid.
If he's the biological father, than she would be lighter skinned
If he adopted her, why is only with him occasionally
The only logical explanation is he's a cuckold, and a stupid one at that.
Bollocks. If this shitty scene was in the newer films people would shit on it relentlessly.
They sort of did it again with that Battle at Big Rock short film where the 8 year old black girl shoots and allosaurus with a crossbow like she's a video game character. IIRC they even pan the camera to make the small child feel badass
I haven't seen the new movie, but up until then it's literally the only time a human kills a dinosaur.
Yeah that scene is terrible but TLW still has way higher highs than any of the other sequels do
The trailer sequence alone mogs every other sequel scene. Only thing that even comes close is the Aviary from JP3
Remember when they climbed down a tree to avoid getting smashed by a car?
Swinging from branches/ swinging from bars.
Tell me it's not "jurassic"
Also, THE FRICKING MUSIC
>this is equivalent to a 100lb girl sending pic related flying through a wall with a kick
I thought israelites were supposed to be smart?
That would be what we esteemed posters here at Cinemaphile's /television & film/ board refer to as...
"Soul."
The human characters were well written, meaning their interactions were grounded enough that they felt like actual people. In Jurassic World, the characters are all action movie archetypes - from the suave, sarcastic Chris Pratt to the bland, ultimately damsel-in-distress redhead chick to the annoying kids, etc. You don't really give a shit about them because you've seen these kind of characters a million times before in other blockbusters. There's nothing about them that's memorable.
You need a little humanity or your monster movie will always fall flat.
A fellow freckleschad
never watched the second trilogy, but I'm assuming it's the dinosaur equivalent of capeshit
Pretty much.
Imagine the T. rex from the first showing up to do the pose frim the end of the first film like 10 times for no reason.
After teaming up to defeat the Indominus Rex, The raptor and T-Rex nod at each other in approval and go their separate ways. They don't even feel like real living creatures like in the first trilogy.
I really fricking hate Trevorrow for thinking dinosaurs need to be superheroes.
it's what the Jurassic Park fanbase wanted. Remember how bad people cried when Spino killed a T-Rex lmao
God, I hate rexgays. It's not what I wanted at all.
Say what you will about Trevorrow, but at least he tries to put in more Crichton stuff than Spielberg ever did
jesus..
The thin of it is this is exactly how my toy fantasies played out as a kid
Kids would adore this shit, my friends kid is a Dino gay because of these movies, just as I was
I forgot how HUGE they made the T-Rex's eyes in order to let the audience know that its a pixar mascot now and therefore a good guy.
It was the same quality that made late Berman-era Trek still feel "Star Trek", or the prequels still feel "Star Wars". The social-mediatization that began in 2007 and reached fruition around 2014 was a cultural apocalypse, and by and large everything made since then has been a hollowed-out, zombified, skin-suited mockery of itself.
>that made late Berman-era Trek still feel "Star Trek", or the prequels still feel "Star Wars".
Nothing?
Jurassic Park >>>>> Jurassic World > JP3 > The Lost World >>>>> Dominion > Fallen Kingdom
What?
Practical effects
The new one had buttloads.
I didn't see it I might have to now
It's not worth it. The animatronics aren't up to par with Stan Winston.
He's sorely missed.
Which parts used them?
Jurassic Park 1's sequels aren't great, but they remain committed to making the dinosaurs practical effects unless they absolutely could not do it. Even Jurassic Park III has some amazing animatronic work, The Spino fricking up the airplane, the T-Rex feasting, the raptor redesign is questionable but the the animatronics themselves are of stellar quality. The special effects team was devoted to making the dinosaurs look like they actually existed within our world.
in the Jurassic World movies, 99% of the dinos are entirely CGI and they have a few scenes of animatronic dinosaurs just so they can tell people they haven't abandoned them entirely. I think Jurassic World 1 actually has some of the best kills of the franchise, but they're not as scary when the dinosaurs always look like a video game
>I think Jurassic World 1 actually has some of the best kills of the franchise
Aren't they all censored and no-one gets dismembered?
Yeah, but they had potential to be so good which sucks. The first female death was insane though. Can't ignore that.
...what will Scorsese say about Jurassic World movies?
Jurassic World has super bright, completely flat sitcom lighting. It’s glaringly obvious that every background is done with a green screen, and there’s like 4 seconds of practical dinosaurs in the entire film.
The Lost World and JP3 weren’t amazing. But at least they looked like real movies. Dark grimey jungle, moody lighting. And Puppet velociraptors/Trex’s are superior in every way.
The Park trilogy largely takes place in wilderness, run down abandoned sites, and rural islands and shit. Makes it feel wild and allows the dinosaurs to be more animalistic, humans are often just trying to survive.
>JP: Pre-opening park that loses power and allows dinosaurs to escape, most of the movie takes place in jungle and park habitats
>TLW: Takes place on island where dinosaurs are roaming free, the most criticized part of movie is what takes place in urban San Diego
>JP3: All takes place on abandoned island with run down labs and enclosures
Compared to World, which largely tries to place in urban environments and feels like human characters are often directly competing with dinosaurs.
>JW: Takes place in an actively running theme park with a supervillain dinosaur
>FK: Best parts of movie take place in wild and abandoned JW island, completely shits the bed when it shifts to mansion/estate/auction house
>Dominion: Whole movie revolves around dinosaurs being in the world and interacting with cities and urban environments. Best parts of movie takes place in forest/cave habitats where dinosaurs act more "naturally".
Did you clap when the t-rex recreated the logo in Dominion?
Jp3 was such direct to video trash that universal literally retconned its logo
The recent zoomer love for this movie is legitimately moronic, just goes to show they'll suck off anything if they grew up with it
Anyone who defends killing the T-Rex in that movie can't complain about modern media "subverting expectations"
JP3 is just kind of bland. It's okay but not a movie I've ever felt like re watching. Though if I had to re watch it I wouldn't freak out either. It's okay.
>NOOOOO THE GIANT FROG MONSTER KILLED THE OTHER GIANT FROG MONSTER WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?!?!
It's been over 2 decades, get over it.
>expectations subverted
Kino. Just like you Nu Wars, Predator 2018, Godzilla, and JP3 are my favorite movies. Donate to BLM today
There's nothing wrong with liking Godzilla 98 or JPIII. There is however, something very wrong with you to put them in the same category as fricking Disney Wars.
They are the same
Soulless shit made by people who didn't respect what came before and ripped off far superior movies
And there is something wrong with you for not addressing Predator 2018, as that is worse than all the other movies combined including Nu Wars. Unless you're a Shane Black cuck in which case everything is clear
Qrd?
It's because the original Jurassic Park trilogy still attempted to be good movies. There was some soul in them. Just like the SW prequels. The new Jurassic World movies didn't need to exist, they are sanitized and soulless, and only exist to make money.
>"Something Unexpected Has Evolved"
"Guys, we need something that's like 'Something Has Survived' but different."
JP > TLW >>>>>> FK > JPIII > JW > Dominion
Is the patrician thinking man's ranking
just watched dominion and holy shit that movie was all over the place. It felt like they just wrote down every shitty idea they had in a pitch meeting but then never went back and actually trimmed off all the nonsense
Good:
>65 million years ago prologue (and they took, it out for some reason!)
>The initial scene where Grant, Ian, and Laura Dern all meet each other actually felt like the characters being themselves but everything after that was stupid
>Dinosaurs weren't moronicly smart for once, at least compared to the other 2 JW movies.
>Heterosexual relationships and no blatant gay shit, though you could see an implied one at the very end. Very clearly meant to get through the Chinese censors.
>Once the characters meet up and they're going around in the forest and tunnels running from dinosaurs it actually felt like a JP movie
>Therinzinosaurus scene
>Dimetrodon scene
>Sam Neil has barely aged in the last 30 years
>Quetzalcoaltlus
>Dodgson death scene even if it was a shameless ripoff/callback
>Practical effects that didn't look stupidly out of place like in other "OMG PRACTICAL EFFECTS ARE BACK" movies (Star Wars TFA)
>Annoying Asian girl and comedy relief mutt sidekick were only in it for a few minutes
Last Good Part 2:
>Finally acknowledging Lost World/JP3/Sorna exist, even if it eliminates the premise of the last movie
>Malcolm having 5 kids presumably with different women and not seeing any of them felt in-character
Bad
>Dinosaur global apocalypse was dumb (basically premise #! of the movie)
>genetically modified Locust apocalypse was an interesting premise for another movie and actually felt like something right out of Crichton he would have explored in an alternate universe where he didn’t leave us so soon, but the writers and feel of the movie couldn't combine it successfully into the film
>Chris Pratt’s Jedi Force hand move constantly showing up and even being used by other characters on any dinosaur now. It BARELY works on the raptors he spent years training, stfu with that shit.
>Laura Dern looks like she’s having her soul sucked out of her
>Malcolm chaos rants were subpar especially compared to the books, the writers needed to do better
>Lack of gore. Modern PG-13 is bloodless for some reason.
>Malta Star Wars Cantina was stupid
>Treating Giganotosaurus like an evil dino like it was the Indomitus Rex, when it was just being a dino and did absolutely nothing wrong.
>Dr. Wu being all “SOWWY” and getting away with everything
>Dodgson and his mannerisms were just bizarre. Was he supposed to be parodying Tim Cook or something? Dodgson should have just been a sneaky academic thug like he was in the books
>Grumpy strong black lesbian woman who don't need no man with a heart of gold. It's so 2020 it took me right out of the movie every scene she was in
Bad part 2
>Clone Girl was annoying
>Malcolm and Laura Dern infiltrating a lab in Hazmats just felt wrong. It didn’t feel like the same characters as the original film, and they simply had jumped the shark by this point.
>The equally predictable black scientist man who was a goodguy. I knew he was betraying Tim Cook from the moment they showed him because you can't have bad black characters in modern hollywood movies
>Jeff Goldblum throwing a fire spear
>ANOTHER Rex and other big “good” dinosaur teamup like it’s a Toho kaiju movie.
>Clone girl being a product of her mother in 2007 was stupid and made her grandpas grief in the last movie feel less justified. She was a grown woman not a little kid you wouldn't just try to replace her. Needlessly convoluted inclusion.
Basically, they should have taken out the "techno thriller" element. I know Crichton was fond of that genre and the novel Lost World was part techno thriller, but the modern writers can't successfully combine it with dinosaur action. Speilberg knew his limits, which is why he made Lost World pure dinosaur stuff. Also remove clone girl and strong black lesbian woman. Reduce the runtime to an hour and a half. Make it the characters on an adventure in the bio-sanctuary with BioSyn poacher badguys in the periphery.
That being said, It was not as bad as critics were making it, especially compared to current year where you get bafflingly awful things like Lion King 2019, Halo TV series, Eternals, and Obi-Wan series. I’m not sure why critics are ripping it so bad. At least it wasn't a le subversion of expectations like FK was bordering on.
Also, this breaks the chain of JP movies being released in order of quality. JP > Lost World > JP 3 > Jurassic World > Dominion > Fallen Kingdom. Of course books > all and RIP Crichton
Asian girl
She's latinx
>parents ask if I want to go see the new one with them
>don't want to but feel bad saying no
ugh
They're top notch adventure. The first was a "movie," I'll give you that, but JW is like the old days when we had PoTC.
The greentexter is full of shit I don't feel like getting into it now but article writers seem like fricking morons most of the time because they have to write SOMETHING and I refuse to believe anyone can be that stupid.
Jurassic World was a solid start and blockbuster that simply asked
>what the frick do you do to entertain a populace that's addicted to entertainment 24/7?
and came up with a believable response to that question via Indominus. Had they just stuck with that idea, and not the clone/evil company/weaponized dinosaur plot I think the sequels would have fared better.
>I can't pinpoint what exactly it is.
It's the music.
The World Movies are action schlock. The original trilogy were family movies with horror elements.
>can't pinpoint what it is
It's the fact that hollywood refuses to make good movies. They don't give two fricks about the film they are trying to sell, they just throw recognizable names and actors/actresses in it and that's it. There is no more excitement or mystique in movies. It's the same shit played by the same actors, throw in a controversial one, so you get everyone talking about said movie with said actor, pretend to give a shit about "muh marginalBlack folk" and do it again a month later.
Cinema is dead, and nothing will ever bring it back. There will never be another great movie in the internet age,and as long as internet is shaping the lives of these moronic homosexual zoomers, everything will go to shit because they don't know how to do anything correctly.
The world is dead. And israelites are to blame for it.
Everything is now shot on that set they did the video game awards on. Huge green screen around a 20/30 foot circle. Every movie feels fake now because there is functionally no more on-location.
This series should have end after the lost world
It should have ended after the first movie.
Bro t Rex going rampage at the city is kino as frick
The Lost World is a fun adventure but it's not a necessary sequel at all. Even the book, while interesting, isn't necessary.
I try to enjoy the San Diego part but I can never get past the part where the T Rex eats the dog
there is only one good jurassic park movie and there will only ever be one good jurassic park movie.
Fallen Kingdom is my favorite one. Best Director too.
>tfw the only movie in the new trilogy I watch is the first one
Explain the plot other 2 Cinemaphile
World has better e-girl
What was the point of knife fingers?
I don't pay attention to Jurassic Park nor have I watched one of them all the way through except maybe the 1993 original? But I can tell just from these posters that the 2001 is hands down the worst.