>scorcese is why nobody is paying to see new MCU movies
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i thought it was uninteresting writing and character dynamics
Its this idea that if I'm not invested in the MCU, I'm not going to understand half the shit going on. Now it feels like I have 2 years of marvel movies to watch to catch up and a bunch of Disney+ crap.
This, 100%. The fact that half of the plots don't make an ounce of sense without having to watch the previous movies AND TV shows is fricking ridiculous. It amazes me that the MCU had the opportunity to clean up their properties and streamline their stories for better clarity of vision, but instead they fell victim to the exact same fricking problem that's killing their comics.
True. I missed out on Black Widow but watched HawkEye and with the face reveal of that woman who was Natascha's sister, I was totally flabbergasted as they clearly paused and looked all shocked at it, and I was just pic related:
I mean, what else IS there to watch, really?
>It amazes me that the MCU had the opportunity to clean up their properties and streamline their stories for better clarity of vision
I mean it is amazing the MCU even worked in the first place. Literally every other attempted at big cinematic universes failed. Sony wanted a Ghostbusters universe and an Amazing Spider-Man Universe. Universal tried to do the Dark Universe thing twice. And WB/DC has been failing.
The MCU has course corrected, changed tactics, changes actors all the time. It was never fully cohesive or planned out but managed to generally have a formula to keep coming people. To play devils advocate, phase 4 had a bunch of issues:
>COVID changes.
>Disney+ pressure.
>Palate cleanser post Endgame.
>Giving directors some creative vision.
>Bunch of origin stories.
I fully expect them to course correct and don't think this doom and gloom will stay around. Half the issue is quantity, especially with the series, adds nothing to the overall point. It just ends up feeling like filler.
But you throw out Spider-Man or some fan favourite shit and I am sure people will come back.
>fell victim to the exact same fricking problem that's killing their comics.
Feige and Perlmutter fighting is what balanced out the MCU somewhat because they were opposites in many ways. Without Perlmutter, Feige has gone full-on diversity with no real Perlmutter business sense balance. Feige also can't seem to deal with the higher-up pressures especially when it comes to Disney+ and needed that buffer more.
Normies unironically cannot speak up on their own until someone else does it for them first
Yes, it's clearly not the fault of the film creators. Heap all blame on one detractor.
Well let's look at what we're working with.
>Black Widow: Pointless, should've come out before the character fricking died, released during the pandemic
>Shang-Chi: Fine, but released during a pandemic
>Eternals: Fricking horrible and boring, so no wonder nobody saw it
>Spider-Man: Great movie, did great at the box office.
>Dr Strange 2: Good movie, did great at the box office
>Thor 4: Okay movie, meanders a lot at the beginning and middle, doing fine at the box office but not done with its theatrical run
Why are people acting like these movies are bombing?
Shill
Yes anon, disney literally pays me six figures a year to jerk off and post on 4chin.
The fact that they don't and you do this for free is all the more tragic.
Strange 2 was ruined by Waldron's shit writing and one of the dumbest villain ever seen in a Marvel movie. It all revolves around the stupid kids instead of Chthon, who unlike the fake kids is actually relevant to Strange.
you also forgot morbius, the greatest comic book movie ever made.
Hey man, don't joke about Morbius, it made 2 Morbillion dollars.
>Strange 2
>Good movie
>Thor 4
>Okay movie
Maybe if you incurred a recent head injury
Reminder that the pandemic MCU movies were still the top box office during Covid
1. Spider-Man: No Way Home $804,617,772
2. Shang-Chi $224,543,292
3. Venom: LTBC $213,550,366
4. Black Widow $183,651,655
5. F9: The Fast Saga $173,005,945
6. Eternals $164,870,264
999. The Irishman $0
Tho really Spidey was post-Coof.
Spider-Man NWH was always gonna do well.
you had the MCU fans, the Raimi/Tobey fans, the Webb/Garfield fans and hell even Daredevil fans getting a nod too. it had the hype and discussion and it delivered for what audiences wanted, the fact they never confirmed Tobey or Andrew even though we knew they were in it fueled the speculation. it came out just before christmas and when the masses were finally comfortable to back into theatres.
and i think if they had came out a bit later they might've done better. well maybe not Black Widow, i think doing her own solo film after killing her in endgame was moronic.
Had NWH released at Christmas the previous year, it would have made half. That would have still been great, but half.
Fortunately it opened at the beginning of NEXT year, when the theaters were fully open again.
I read that all as Avery.
>Spider-Man: Great movie
>Dr Strange 2: Good movie
>Thor 4: Okay movie
Lmao, could you be a more obviousl shill?
I think Taika should be given a drug test for his next movie because it's clear that he smoked that Maori Waui
>best one is the sony movie
good job, disney
They're not bombing, they're just bad, that's the problem.
>see a headline that makes me uncomfortable
>run to Cinemaphile to paste it so my bros make me feel better
>Movies make hundreds of millions in profit
>"Nobody is paying to see them!"
wut
Only thing Scorcese caused was a bunch of seething from braindead fanboys.
I told y'all be kneeling to Marty but nooooo y'all kept saying he was a dumb boomer
I love how Waititi and Raimi have completely ruined Thor and Scarlet Witch, turning both characters into morons.
What a pair of creative geniuses.
>Waititi and Waldron
ftfy
you alread post same thread on tv moron stop spamming it on Cinemaphile
>wahhhhh mama help me my funny books
>Feige releases four dogshit movies
>it's Scorcese's fault
Lmao
Kind of, this is where the trend of hating the MCU started
So what steered audiences away from Martin Scorcese?
anything he had to say in film he said already
Funny, seeing as how he won't shut up?
Also, I'm sure Netflix would've liked to have gotten that memo before dumping a fortune down the drain.
>why nobody is paying to see new MCU movies
Why did they choose to pull the gay agenda and at the same time all femininity will be destroyed, which parent will want to take their kids to see naked men, women wearing burkas and two men kissing?
Anon, both times I saw Deadpool 1 & 2, there were parents with young children sitting in front of me, and to either side of me.
now i think back to the early monologues about leaving your kids with the babysitter.
The woman in front was clearly the mother of the 4 boys, ages 6-12(?), who were getting quite an education at Deadpool 1's opening Saturday.
Truly it was their Asses of Fire.
>he goes to the cinema by himself
Could not get a babysitter, and the wife-unit was giving me "Ugh, Deadpool" vibes.
Shame as it was somewhat romantic a movie.
Where does the need for clicks end and being moronic begin I wonder
>Creatively bankrupt Old Man Shouts at Studios
>Scorcese: "So then the fella, who's left somber by his past crimes (played by DeNiro) says..."
>Studio Exec: "Wait, so which of your films are we re-making?"
>Scorcese: "No dammit! This is an original new script! And I'll need double production money to make everyone look young again!"
>Normies just follow peer pressure.
>People saying the bubble has burst and it is fatigue after every movie just wanted to be right some day.
>Even the execs used that excuse like when Bob Iger blamed Star Wars fatigue on Solo flopping and not TLJ shit/ all the behind the scenes issues with Solo.
>Phase 4 has been messy.
>People complaining more.
>People listen to Youtubers complaining
>People begin parroting those views.
>Anger sells.
>More articles about it.
>Here we are.
>Normies and critics who loved the shit out of the MCU now want to claim they hate it like rats jumping off a sinking ship trying to get ahead of the curb.
>See I was right!!! I HATED IT ALL LONG comments everywhere.
>thinks one celebrity is completely responsible for how society acts
I mean if your whole life was reading and writing about the lives of celebrities maybe you would actually think the world is like this
>an offhand comment from the Goodfellas director
That's like calling George Lucas the American Graffiti director. Also, if Scorsese's remarks are all it takes to sink the entire Marvel corporate empire, then it deserves to sink. Frick play it safe films with poor art direction and nonstop Whedon quips.
>Wow, that's a thing