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See now, there you go, giving a frick when it ain't your turn to give a frick.

just finished the wire, it was amazing, any other detective shows you can recommend?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >any other detective shows you can recommend?
    The Shield, which is way better than The W*re.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >any other detective shows you can recommend?
      Homicide.

      pleb

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Pleb

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >The Shield, which feels like a cartoon compared to the wire

      fixed

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The Wire is more like a play and the Shield is more like a reality show. If you think what you said you should get out more.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the only way the shield is like a reality show is that it's trashy. seriously. the shield is more similar to a show like Weeds than it is to the wire

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the shield is more similar to a show like Weeds than it is to the wire
            Not really, but if so it's because the wire has no realistic dialogue and relies on quippy dickensian unrealistic interactions.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              what a ridiculous statement. CCH pounder's character alone quips more than anyone in the wire.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                One character, and maybe it's a fair one. But the wire is so 'dickensian' it's unreal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i like dickens. dickens isn't known for his realistic dialogue, he used exaggerated archetypes like thieves, down and out workers, street urchins, sadistic authority figures and callous lords to tell a story that reflected his reality strongly. The wire does the same, its a great collection of stories.
                The shield has a different approach, in that the characters and dialogue are more grounded and seem like you could encounter them in real life, but the story itself is more shakespearean. its all about the clash between vic's gang and the good but still somewhat comprimised cops. these two factions are built up very dramatically in a conflict filled with exciting twists and turns. the wire does much the opposite with its procedural stuff. I can understand why some prefer the shield for this reason. At the end of the day they are both fictional shows that use realistic elements in different ways.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Agreed. I like both.

                cool lester smooth

                >The job will not save you

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This is pretty accurate. Everyone in the wire is portrayed as a tragic figure and the hoodlums have these moments of introspection that real gangsters would never have

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      BAW WIT DA BAW DA BANG DA BANG DITTY WITTY

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      does the shield have any other purpose than to be overly edgy?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a good tale about the struggle between doing what needs to be done and what is acceptable in society, and how the relationship between police and violent crime drives them to sometimes work outside of what's acceptable to get the results needed, and how that can lead them astray, and at the same time the struggle between civic duty and family and how one can come at the cost of others. Other shit too but w/e

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >does the shield have any other purpose than to be overly edgy?
        It definitely falls into the trap of chasing shock value as a product of its time (anti hero cable boom) but it's dishonest to reduce it to that. It's not exactly a socio-economic insightful show but the edginess is fitting for its violent ethnic gang-infested setting and subject matter of cops turning into gangsters ruling the streets, it has a "moral heart" with Claudette being the antagonist to Vic's corruption so it's not entirely cynical, the homicide detective parts of the show focused on traditional investigative work and psychological interrogation duels (clearly inspired by Homicide) so story wise it's not entirely about chasing shock value, Vic is multi-layered without the show forcing a moral judgment on the viewer so it's not about glorifying his behavior but treating corruption within institutions and extreme social conditions as something complex with layers of grey. Department is under-funded, city's a shithole, crime is out of control and because of politics and need for results, people like Vic are tolerated because the end justifies the means, season 4 downplays the edginess by focusing more on political reform attempts and afterwards it's about Vic's web of corruption and crimes unraveling with tragic and twisted consequences for all involved. It's more plot than theme driven unlike The Wire but it's in no way the mindless caricature some here make it out to be.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nice trips. Is Shield really edgy or is it just LA cops? I'm not a burger but even I know LA cops have a violent reputation.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It was loosely based on the "rampart" scandal, a bunch of gang squad cops that basically turned into a gang, I'd say the most edgy boy shit is in the first episode, some edgy for edgys sake stuff but never too much that it becomes grating, pretty decent show

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      anyone who compares the shield to the wire is a genuine moron, they're not even the same genre

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Shield, but very different show. Also justified but also different. But very, very good kinos.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, The Wire is the best.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Homicide: life on the street is a good detective show also created by david simon. it is just a detective show however, it doesn't go into the various socio-economic backgrounds of all the criminals or anything, its just about the homicide detectives

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    nothing is really like the wire
    but I'll 2nd the recommendations that both the shield and justified are pretty good other cop shows that aren't really like other cop shows

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We own this city is pretty much the 6th season of the wire.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    SHEEIT

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    cool lester smooth

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WE OWN THIS CITY

    Made by the same guy but this time features a thick queen

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >MASK U SOMETHIN YO DAWG

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Annoying b***h

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We Own the City also written by Simon, feels like wire season 6 fren

    actual handles defund the police well. only lib take i've seen with nuance and two of the villains are black cops

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There is no non-heavy handed take on defund the police. Defunding is inherently moronic. If you don't like police actions seek police reform in the executive application and legislative policies, not just 'oh let's just get rid of it'

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >nuance
        simon isnt an uninformed moron. he worked closely with cops for many years and remained friends with them. His interpretation of the modern issue is more focused on how the police departments waste money chasing stats instead of actually doing their jobs.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't a nuanced take. You can't work in any bureaucracy without someone going 'but the stats'. Hell, the wire is half about that. People who whine about stats are wrong anyway. Every organisation needs strong KPI metrics. The real issue is overall ideological adherence to them or not. We're in a place now where people are backlashing so hard you see large companies removing all KPIs and having NFI what anyone is doing. The real issue has nothing to do with stats, it's the lack of subjective complimentary enquiry that is meant to come up and down the chain and liaised with third-parties for independent oversight. Any 'defund the police' metric is patently false and I'm not going to both trying to change your mind if you think that, but it's just idiotic and any real enquiry would reveal it is. I realize you're not necessarily saying that, but even tip toing into the issue in any way favourably is moronic.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yeah i agree. Simon isn't about defunding police though, he simply shows the issue playing out in his series.

            >" I understand that there have always been problems with the police. But we are one of the most violent cities in America. And all the talk about abolishing the police or defunding them – I’d be happy to stop the drug war. I’d be happy to change the mission, but I don’t want to break up the police money. Good policing is essential, or my city becomes unbearable. You’ve seen case work done correctly, you’ve seen case work done wrong, and that’s important."
            - David Simon, 2022

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Cool quote. How does that play into his new show?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the series is about the baltimore police department and the issues it faces, including funding and management.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                there's nothing about defunding the police in the new show, if anything there's criticism about bpd being underfunded just like in the last season of the wire
                there's an entire arc about the doj/civil rights lawyers fining the city if they dont implement civic/transparency practices like officers wearing bodycams but in the end the dnc mayor doesnt want to allocate extra budget to pay for the equipment
                but instead of being truly self critical and looking at reality, simon mouthpiece characters shift the blame to drumpf and republicans and how the war on drugs is the real issue
                he wants to decriminalize drugs and programs to help the junkies instead of making arrests in case you didnt get the memo in wire s3, that's his utopia, the heroin open market hellscapes of hamsterdam and reps are big meanies for being tough on drugs instead

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The civil rights shit really dragged the show down. It should have been all about the cops and the investigation.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                theres that scene in s3 where bubbles walks through hamsterdam at night and its a hellscape, I think that while the writers might like the idea i dont think they are naive about the problems localised pockets of lawlessness would bring. Bunny, like Mcnaulty and lester in the last season of the wire, got so jaded about the shitty state of crime and policing that they take an extreme measure in a "Frick it, try somthing new" approach. but sure, there a definte anti drug war /lighter on drugs view in the wire, and from the talk here, very such so in WOTC it appears.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >war on drugs is the real issue
                it is. All the man hours and power and money spent of bullshit for drug users when we know prohibition doesn't work could be put towards the thousands if not millions of unsolved crimes. Instead every cop just want to get an easy arrest or ticket.
                legalize and regulate. No open free market, tight regulation so people aren't getting fricking fentanyl when they order something else.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Written by middle-managment Black person fingers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >reform in the atheist democracy

        remind us when any major reform took place since let's say the bourgeois revolutions of 1688, 1776, 1789

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah surprisingly balanced except for final episode when fat b***h rants

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >here's your season 6 bro
    Try watching WOTC OP and then compare it to The Shield, since it's basically The Shield subject matter but with the style and setting of The Wire.

    Also
    >True Detective
    >Perry Mason HBO series
    >Tokyo Vice
    >The Night Of
    >Homicide but it's a 90's network case of the week procedural and quality quickly deteriorates

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    City On A Hill, skip whenever women are talking.
    Bosch has an awful first season, but it's pretty good.
    Homicide is pretty great for the first season or two, then I don't know what it tries to be.
    True Detective's first, maybe second season.
    Justified, even though it's a marshall show, not detective.
    Don't watch We Own This City, it's a das rite current year politics poeleece hurtin us dindu nuthin bix nood.
    Don't watch Shield, it is for Breaking Bad morons.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      redpill me on City On A Hill, showtime shows are always poorly written by cheap production values

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's neither poorly written or cheap looking. And it has Kevin Bacon.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't watch Shield
      Opinion disregarded

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't watch Shield, it is for Breaking Bad morons.
      Very Accurate

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't watch Shield, it is for Breaking Bad morons.
      fartsniffer

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Cracksmoker

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >when were laws passed regarding the police
    No you're right laws only ever change after giant revolutions....................................................................................... (how dumb are you, srs)?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      meant for this guy I guess

      >reform in the atheist democracy

      remind us when any major reform took place since let's say the bourgeois revolutions of 1688, 1776, 1789

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fargo, not really a detective show buy it's great and close enough

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Not detective kino, but if you haven't seen it, check out generation kill, its a miniseries, but its outstanding.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    bros....

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