the whole movie is about self improvement. improving your confidence, fighting skills, social groups. creating new fight clubs, furthering your end goal, adding more cronies to your farm.
but i think that this meant isn't meant to be taken literal, because in society self improvement is usually self serving.
why do people want a nicer body? more sex, more instagram likes. bigger house? more room for all their amazon junk. a better career? more money to fund it all.
i think, that in fight club, what they're doing isn't to impress others, it's to help others. what good does a private jet do for humanity? seeing the latest marvel movie? i can see how wiping debt, and dismantling the oppressive financial systems would benefit our world
The full quote is >Self improvement is masturbation. Now self destruction is the answer
He saying that only real way to improve is to destroy yourself, and rid yourself of the agenda that advertisment has programmed into you. Either by psychically destroying yourself in fighting and thereby bringing back the primal urges of masculinity that long has been emasculated by feminism and confronting your own fear of death, or mentally distancing yourself from the consumer lifestyle and ikea home that the modern man has conformed to. That's why Tyler blows up his apartment in the beginning of the film.
Only by destroying ourselves can we find the greater spirit of ourselves. Hitting rock bottom is not a weekend retreat, and "losing all hope is freedom". Self improvement is masturbation because, as the book and the film states, you'll never be contempt and never be complete. Edward Norton's character was constantly trying to be complete in every way. Consume product and get excited for next product. You'll just keep wanting the next new thing over and over again...and that is suffering. All wanting is suffering. It's buddism 101.
except self destruction is not in any way opposed to modern consumerist culture and is one of its most commodified sectors. All contemporary big capitalists like are some type of buddhists like jack dorsey, who use the philosophy to better sell the ebb and flows of a volatile market. There's nothing subversive about what tyler is doing, he was fully embraced by the kind of people that turned all cubicle offices into open floor plans.
These days, edwards nortons cushy secure white collar job is the luxury most people strive for. Meanwhile precarious gig workers are celebrated as free from the rigid structures that the gen x'ers complained about in their movies. We live in the aftermath of a successful project mayhem and most people hate it here.
I would say that Tyler's ultimate goal with Project Mayhem was to turn the world into some anarcho-anarchist society as he states "In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life." It was to coach people beyond their own fears and show that even one man had the ability to change history.
>These days, edwards nortons cushy secure white collar job is the luxury most people strive for.
Well the point of the film is that you may think, you want that cushy secure white collar job, luxury car and an apartment filled with excessive consumer electronics but it doesn't make you more fulfilled. That has really changed since the 90's.
I think I get what you're saying, if I'm not misinterpretating it, that self destruction has become one of its most commodified sector. That Tyler's philosophy has now in this day and age essentially become a consumer product itself and lost it's true meaning along the way?
I wanted to breathe smoke
>just be urself bro
>Form patterns of self-destruction RIGHT NOW!! Do NOT take care of yourself. I repeat, damage your body if you want to be... LE COOL!!
>character in movie says [THING]
>that means I must do [THING]
why are npcs like this
Poor people and losers that consume lots of media are easily programmed and conditioned
>person says something
>people hear what they said
>OMG THAT IS SO NPC BRO!!
I love having my nipples and genitals ravaged by paper wasps. It stings so much. My winged pals stung my uncut wiener.
Swollen.
Abused.
My penis was attacked by insects. Pure artl
>imagine if tyler durden was a woman
There would be no female Tyler Durden. Women are conformists by default.
the whole movie is about self improvement. improving your confidence, fighting skills, social groups. creating new fight clubs, furthering your end goal, adding more cronies to your farm.
but i think that this meant isn't meant to be taken literal, because in society self improvement is usually self serving.
why do people want a nicer body? more sex, more instagram likes. bigger house? more room for all their amazon junk. a better career? more money to fund it all.
i think, that in fight club, what they're doing isn't to impress others, it's to help others. what good does a private jet do for humanity? seeing the latest marvel movie? i can see how wiping debt, and dismantling the oppressive financial systems would benefit our world
>our great war is a spiritual war
The full quote is
>Self improvement is masturbation. Now self destruction is the answer
He saying that only real way to improve is to destroy yourself, and rid yourself of the agenda that advertisment has programmed into you. Either by psychically destroying yourself in fighting and thereby bringing back the primal urges of masculinity that long has been emasculated by feminism and confronting your own fear of death, or mentally distancing yourself from the consumer lifestyle and ikea home that the modern man has conformed to. That's why Tyler blows up his apartment in the beginning of the film.
Only by destroying ourselves can we find the greater spirit of ourselves. Hitting rock bottom is not a weekend retreat, and "losing all hope is freedom". Self improvement is masturbation because, as the book and the film states, you'll never be contempt and never be complete. Edward Norton's character was constantly trying to be complete in every way. Consume product and get excited for next product. You'll just keep wanting the next new thing over and over again...and that is suffering. All wanting is suffering. It's buddism 101.
except self destruction is not in any way opposed to modern consumerist culture and is one of its most commodified sectors. All contemporary big capitalists like are some type of buddhists like jack dorsey, who use the philosophy to better sell the ebb and flows of a volatile market. There's nothing subversive about what tyler is doing, he was fully embraced by the kind of people that turned all cubicle offices into open floor plans.
These days, edwards nortons cushy secure white collar job is the luxury most people strive for. Meanwhile precarious gig workers are celebrated as free from the rigid structures that the gen x'ers complained about in their movies. We live in the aftermath of a successful project mayhem and most people hate it here.
I would say that Tyler's ultimate goal with Project Mayhem was to turn the world into some anarcho-anarchist society as he states "In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life." It was to coach people beyond their own fears and show that even one man had the ability to change history.
>These days, edwards nortons cushy secure white collar job is the luxury most people strive for.
Well the point of the film is that you may think, you want that cushy secure white collar job, luxury car and an apartment filled with excessive consumer electronics but it doesn't make you more fulfilled. That has really changed since the 90's.
I think I get what you're saying, if I'm not misinterpretating it, that self destruction has become one of its most commodified sector. That Tyler's philosophy has now in this day and age essentially become a consumer product itself and lost it's true meaning along the way?
*That hasnt really changed since the 90's.
Aah yes, the chinese government censoring the ending so the authorities win. How ironic
Masturbation is self destruction
Moderation is masturbation.
Is this image supposed to insinuate something? I don’t know this guy outside a couple of STP records
It's his first line from "Unglued"
Ah right forgot about that
>gen x boomers thought this was profound
Babys onramp to counter culture
Therefore masturbation is self improvement
but jerking off is healtfy
Masturbation is self improvement?
Self-improvement is impossible because the one who needs improvement is the one doing the improving
hence its a masturbation. Tyler isnt say self-acceptance.
>Self improvement is masturbation.
>literally next scene
I always found it funny
were black people not allowed in the fight club?
>The first rule of Fight Club... is no Black folk
Based Tyler
>have a club with the boys
>invite a Black person
why tho?