Serialized is preferred if they can commit to it. Not like Disenchantment, where it is hybridized Serialized-Episodic every other episode and ending every season on an unsatisfactory cliffhanger.
My problem with a lot of serialized shows is that they get so focused on the season long story that nobody seems to have time to care about anything else.
This was really obvious in something like the Jessica Jones TV show. Jessica was a private detective in the comics so she could go out on cases, but instead of having her solve mysteries with the Purple Man story running through it and taking over near the end, they wasted the whole season on the Purple Man.
That's just bad writing wholesale. Would you have preferred if it was a Case of the Week but every other week it was the story you ended up not liking anyway?
These shows need to do the Doctor Who thing. Serialized at either end and twoish episodes in the mix but it is always running in the background.
>Ned Flanders is a fraud >Jebediah Springfield is a fraud >the Itchy and Scratchy guy is a fraud >Seymour Skinner is a fraud
I’m seeing a pattern here.
I wouldn't say the concept doesn't exist, but it seems like for various reasons it's easier to make a good serialized show than a good episodic show in today's TV ecosystem.
I noticed this more in live action shows, where a show will often start out doing more cases of the week and get more acclaimed as it focuses more on the myth arc. I can't think of a recent show like "The X-Files" where the standalone episodes were arguably superior to the ones that drove the plot forward.
It's a version of the "single camera comedies with no laugh track" vs. "studio audience with four cameras" format war. In theory they should be able to coexist, but in practice Hollywood has almost forgotten how to make a good traditional sitcom, so the single-camera ones are almost always better, even the bad ones.
Psych was a great episodic show that gradually moved things along with characters. It still had the "mystery of the week" thing, but life moved on outside of that
Shows that are episodic, but each episode is like 40 minutes long and there's some light continuity of character arcs sprinkled in the background are the prime format.
I think this opinion comes from fandom. A lot of people prefer serialized shows because they want to be able to speculate, discuss theories, discuss lore, something you can't do with episodic shows. They want a community.
And that's really all it is. Everyone is so lonely nowadays, and I think the demand for more serialized shows is a symptom of that.
This is the same reason most people are beginning to hate binging now. When you drop all of the episodes of a season at once, it kills discussion. And it kills any potential fanbase you could cultivate.
I just like it so characters actually learn lessons and change. I mean hearing Lisa b***h that Homer doesn’t take an interest or help her or seeing Bart go through the same shit of people realizing he needs attention and extra help only to abandon get both sad and infuriating.
Futurama is a million times better than The Simpons for this purpose. I'm not counting the Hulu revival shit, I haven't seen it, I'm talking about from episode 1 up until the time reset ending. The episodes were, for the most part, self contained, but the characters still progressed. Relationships grew, things changed. Not so much that it became a completely different show, but there was development. Keeping things static for eternity makes shit boring and makes it feel like nothing matters. Why the hell would I care about what happens in this episode when I know the slate will be wiped clean in 20 minutes?
OP pic made me think, why we don’t have serialized slice of life cartoons. All lore series is usually fantasy lesbian loreshit, and I never interested in those
Can a grounded series about ordinary people with ongoing storylines work?
I think this is all in your head.
It's not but it's only proposed by equally irrelevant and ineffectual people
Then why complain about it?
I’m bored
This thread won’t last till midnight anyways
Like the two of us? Talking about something that doesn't matter?
Serialized is preferred if they can commit to it. Not like Disenchantment, where it is hybridized Serialized-Episodic every other episode and ending every season on an unsatisfactory cliffhanger.
An unsatisfactory cliffhanger building towards a story I don't care about.
My problem with a lot of serialized shows is that they get so focused on the season long story that nobody seems to have time to care about anything else.
This was really obvious in something like the Jessica Jones TV show. Jessica was a private detective in the comics so she could go out on cases, but instead of having her solve mysteries with the Purple Man story running through it and taking over near the end, they wasted the whole season on the Purple Man.
That's just bad writing wholesale. Would you have preferred if it was a Case of the Week but every other week it was the story you ended up not liking anyway?
These shows need to do the Doctor Who thing. Serialized at either end and twoish episodes in the mix but it is always running in the background.
>Ned Flanders is a fraud
>Jebediah Springfield is a fraud
>the Itchy and Scratchy guy is a fraud
>Seymour Skinner is a fraud
I’m seeing a pattern here.
Fraud would imply Ned was aware he was not as good as he saya he is. He had forgotten that he was a monster of a child before that therapy.
I wouldn't say the concept doesn't exist, but it seems like for various reasons it's easier to make a good serialized show than a good episodic show in today's TV ecosystem.
I noticed this more in live action shows, where a show will often start out doing more cases of the week and get more acclaimed as it focuses more on the myth arc. I can't think of a recent show like "The X-Files" where the standalone episodes were arguably superior to the ones that drove the plot forward.
It's a version of the "single camera comedies with no laugh track" vs. "studio audience with four cameras" format war. In theory they should be able to coexist, but in practice Hollywood has almost forgotten how to make a good traditional sitcom, so the single-camera ones are almost always better, even the bad ones.
Psych was a great episodic show that gradually moved things along with characters. It still had the "mystery of the week" thing, but life moved on outside of that
Shows that are episodic, but each episode is like 40 minutes long and there's some light continuity of character arcs sprinkled in the background are the prime format.
>40 minutes long
No
I think this opinion comes from fandom. A lot of people prefer serialized shows because they want to be able to speculate, discuss theories, discuss lore, something you can't do with episodic shows. They want a community.
And that's really all it is. Everyone is so lonely nowadays, and I think the demand for more serialized shows is a symptom of that.
This is the same reason most people are beginning to hate binging now. When you drop all of the episodes of a season at once, it kills discussion. And it kills any potential fanbase you could cultivate.
I just like watching a longer story.
I just like it so characters actually learn lessons and change. I mean hearing Lisa b***h that Homer doesn’t take an interest or help her or seeing Bart go through the same shit of people realizing he needs attention and extra help only to abandon get both sad and infuriating.
Streaming services seem to think that serializing is how they get customers hooked. That's really all there is to it.
Futurama is a million times better than The Simpons for this purpose. I'm not counting the Hulu revival shit, I haven't seen it, I'm talking about from episode 1 up until the time reset ending. The episodes were, for the most part, self contained, but the characters still progressed. Relationships grew, things changed. Not so much that it became a completely different show, but there was development. Keeping things static for eternity makes shit boring and makes it feel like nothing matters. Why the hell would I care about what happens in this episode when I know the slate will be wiped clean in 20 minutes?
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Why?
wow
OP pic made me think, why we don’t have serialized slice of life cartoons. All lore series is usually fantasy lesbian loreshit, and I never interested in those
Can a grounded series about ordinary people with ongoing storylines work?
Cinemaphile didn't even talk much about cartoons until they became more serialized