Seriously... what the FRICK was his problem
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He saw the Jedi from a different angle.
Not up high though
the ~~*jedi*~~ needed to be removed. We should learn a lot from this tru... i mean story
He had anger problems and let a woman distract from his training.
he unironically thought Obi was cucking him Hayden clearly portrays it that way
God damn I thought I was the only one who thought this lol
oh it really does come down to that fling she had as a 12 year old, damn.
yeah its much more implied in the novel
Wait really? I haven't seen the films in years, QRD?
I watched episode ii a few hours ago and episode i 3 days ago. Same as you, had not watched them in MANY years. I'm glad I'm seeing it again, I missed a lot the first time around.
Even as a kid I noticed Anakin thought Padme was falling in love with Obi Wan. Padme also was implting she liked him in Attack of the Clones. Then in RotS he gets sent over the edge when Kenobi shows up in her Ferrari with her asking him to talk in things out.
well obi-wan doing the power stance probably didn't help
Obi-Wan really did ruin everything just by showing up here, didn't he?
frick no, it's all in line with what Palpatine/Sidious wants to happen. Obi-Wan is exactly where he's supposed to be. It's not a good force or a bad force, it's just the force and shit happens.
>Sheev wanted the man to eventually succeed him get burned to crisp, mindbroken and having to be his therapist for decades as the said man refused to do anything about his situation instead crying about his Panda Bear or something.
Agreed, they work in pairs; Sheev/Sidious. I left out Sheev.
Led astray by a woman. Many such cases. Sad!
Hubris.
He was too old to start the training.
Apparently groomed by Palpatin since toddlers so never had a chance.
>be raised an autistic incel
>one hot girl pays attention to you
>lose your fricking mind
tale as old as time
Y-yeah...
That sure would s-suck...
What a l-loser... heh....
>literally biggest big dick Johny in town handpicked by fate itfricking self
>lil A could do shit in child age mfs had to go to space uni their whole life for
>gets some ROYAL onee sama pussy thrown his way
>literally on his mf grind all fricking day every fricking day when he aint dicking his b***h down on the side
>some jelly pussy mfs wanna literally end this dudes momentum and achievements hating ona mf indtead of being real homies and going all in with the mf
Man you dont know what you saying
>Real homie down for real
>pussy as mfs hatin ona bawler
>dont give strech forth a real homie hand and allow all that ambition and drive from a young and unexperienced cat to be corrupted and gaslit by some old ass groomer
Mf Jedi council played itself tbh. Should have been real homies when a mf needed them
kek, literally me
Heh
You will pay for this
can you morons stop overusing the terms autistic and incel all the time, anakin was a prodigy chad who impregnated a queen who is older than him.
ok I take it back a little bit because he did simp hard for her but still, he wasnt "autistic incel"
unironically this
don't forget Palpatine is in the background orchestrating all of this
don't forget, now
you won't forget that will you?
How was he an incel when he knocked up Padme?
The fear of loss can really frick people up
From his point of view (the low ground) the Jedi are the bad guys of the story
>born a slave
>literally kept as property by having a bomb in his head that will explode if he tries running away
>single mom
>taken from single mom and friends by space cultists who need to practice self-abnegation to avoid turning into cackling serial killers
>entire cult expects him to be a literal Chosen One
>mentor is a hardass with a stick up his rectum
>only apparent friend is actually Darth Evil who is secretly isolating him and stoking his ego
>has to fight on the front lines of the biggest, most morally dubious war the Republic has ever fought
>sees the future about the love of his life dying in the exact way he saw it happen once before
The impressive thing is it took him so long to snap; most people in that situation would be in a straitjacket or prison cell long before. Especially considering
>boy always getting called Annie
He was doomed from the start
Underrated post right here. The entire thing about the trilogy is how completely fricked he was treated by the Jedi and Lucas barely acknowledged it. If you ask George, the biggest disservice they did to him was not call him a master, even though he was and was treated like one in every other sense.
yeah but Jedi are meant to be like Buddhist monks. A true Jedi would have been humbled to have even been on the council. It was Anakin's arrogance that stopped him being a master.
>Arrogant student comes back evil to take revenge
I guess you're right, it does make it like the millionth story to be told that way. Still doesn't mean the motivation for it was sort of contrived and not fleshed out. I dunno, maybe it's such a tired cliche that I'll hate it no matter how they frame it.
Anakin's relationship with Palpatine is what prevented him from becoming a Master. Remember that Anakin only got placed on the Council because Sheev appointed him, and the Council were extremely suspicious of Sheev by that point.
>Lucas barely acknowledged it
Phantom Menace
Attack of The Clones
Revenge of The Sith
It was acknowledged by Lucas in 3 movies. Every interaction between Anakin and Obi Wan is youthful arrogance vs. wise authority (Obi Wan was a terrible mentor, Anakin was never meant to be a Jedi, it was all a setup).
>born slave
>no father: literally no father
>space papists free you, but not mother
>compelled to lead an entire army of slave bred out of vats
>mother dies before you can go back and buy/free her
>padawan doesn't stick around after botched investigation, probably the one grounding influence you might have had and shoulder to lean on about leaving the order behind
The Jedi baby snatching policy to deny Sith recruits only played into Rule of 2 dark side power concentration in the end. Jar Jar probably programmed his mind on the dl too, just for the lols
If at any time he sided with Dooku, Maul, even Obi Wan & Mace Windu ect. he stood a good chance of removing Palps.
>ANAKIN, SENATOR PALPATINE IS EVIL!
Vader after the turn is interesting because of this prisoner dilemma situation. He can't be pleased about having to tolerate Palpatine reintroducing slavery as official policy.
Even the prophecy was them trying to control the timeline, even if their ethics precluded doing things like mind tricks and memory wipes, or acting overtly politically.
autism
Jedi fricked him up. No, really. They were greedy just like Sith & wanted his power for themselves.
Palpatine at least treated him like a son.
The Jedi were in the wrong and basically became pseudo dark side practitioners the moment they engaged in state politics. They used the excuse of being peace keepers but whose peace are they keeping?
Argueably the Jedi should never take part in any conflicts unless they are being attacked directly or Dark Siders are seeking to conquer the galaxy.
To me it seems like the Jedi became arrogant over time and lost any sense of a true jedi philosophy beyond following dogma blindly. It reminds me of this idea that Gonzola Lira promoted I forgot what he called it but it was basically about poeple who were so obsessed with theory living in a bubble that they lost sight of practical application. The Jedi got fricking curb stomped by Sidious because he essentially used spiritual judo on them redirecting the efforts of the Jedi to serve the needs of the Dark Side while remaining hidden.
Essentially from a certain point of view Darth Sidious was the real master of the Jedi order as he was telling them all what to do under the guise of a meek politician.
Its mostly all brilliant except for the Jedi stupidity of allowing a clone army to be used without any sort of proper analysis on their part until it was too late. Do you think the Jedi wouldnt like say interogate/examine one clone to see if he has any flaws in his psyche or ability to be manipulated. Concerning the Jedi are warned of the dark side and the sith along with Darth Maul coming out wouldnt it be their first perogative to see what their army is truly made of or examine why Sifo Dyas was involved?
Basically the Jedi logic was like ok well we found Darth Maul, Dooku turned to the Dark side and is starting a war, we now convieniently have a secret massive army only Syfo Dyas knew about and hes dead and a bounty hunter trying to kill the queen of naboo is the basis of this army while also living with the Cloners. Lets just use this army without asking any questions.
>like a son
Anakin WAS Palpatine's son
More likely a clone with added midi-chlorions (see Episode ii for clone masters)
The Jedi wanted to kill his wife and overthrow the Republic, from a certain point of view.
>born into slavery on Tatooine
>has to leave his mother behind
>Qui-Gon dies so he ends up being stuck with Kenobi
>put in charge of the hot piece of ass senator he's been drooling over for 10 years and is still expected to hide his feelings
>mother ends up getting tortured to death by sand people
>gets arm cut off
>has to fight in an intergalactic war for three years as a teenage general when all he wants to do is pound Padme
>is treated with no respect from the jedi council despite being one of their best
>loses his padawan because Mace Dindu couldn't shut up
>told to let go of his feelings and emotions without actually being taught to
>groomed by a sith lord that tells him everything he wants to hear while Obi-Wan is deployed somewhere else
>knocks up padme and then starts having dreams of her dying in childbirth
>starts panicking because these dreams are just like the ones of his mother before she died
>goes to yoda for help, "lol just let go bro"
>goes to palpatine instead and finds out there's a way to save her but only with the dark side
>has to choose between potentially saving your wife and kid from death by saving the man who has been a father figure to you, or the jedi homosexual that has been treating you like shit and will end up condemning you for your forbidden relationship
Man, I wonder why Anakin destroyed the Jedi..
>when you realize the Jedi wants them young in order to completely brainwash them, whereas the Sith only recruits adults who can decide for themselves
Get fricked groomers! Anakin should've killed more.
This. I no longer mourn Star Wars now that I have awoken to the groomer menace. Let Disney destroy it. The Jedi were always evil.
anakin murdered children....
All I saw were children's who's souls were lost anyway & future groomers.
You know they fricked those poor kids to dehumanize them, right? Anakin was too old so didn't get the poundings, hence was able to see through their bullshit later on.
This is canon & you'll never be able to convince me otherwise. George "white slavers" Lucas knew all about Hollywood pedo israelites & that's why they hated his ass. Have fun with Disney Wars.
well your not wrong lmao
you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. Acceptable casualties
If he had stepped down from being a jedi instead of having a secret romantic relationship none of this would have happened.
Exactly. Frickin' Padme in particular should have known better.
Seduced, by the dark side he was.
>stepped down from being a jedi
is that even allowed? Nobody ever did that in any of the movies. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some jedi law about killing apostates.
>Nobody ever did that in any of the movies
Count Dooku is explicitly mentioned on several occasions as having been a Jedi who left the order.
Continually fricked over by the jedi council from when they stole him from his mother onward.
he was horny
>Palpatine is a dick but after we get you safe I'll just betray him and you and I can do real good for the galaxy, like you always talked about
>No Annie, u braek muh hart
>Obi-Wan, I have accomplished what I set out to do, we can still be homies if you don't frick my wife
>But muh republic that has functioned so well, I must draw on you first
Anakin's only mistake was how much of himself he gave to those two morons
He got into Emo
He was assaulted by sand
He had the low ground
Is this comic implying that Anakin and Padme had sex the first time they met when they were 10 and 13?
Pretty sure they only hooked up in the second movie when Anakin was 19 and she was 22.
its implying child molestation when it didnt actually happen
its a joke about pedophilia using culturally relevant figures. im sorry it was complicated for autists that take it literally.
Two kids having sex is pedophilia?
Yes. Even when you touched yourself the first time, you were a pedophile predator.
Shit. Throw me in jail officer.
god i wish that were me
>ANAKIN, SENATOR PALPATINE IS EVIL!
I like this line. It's the most obvious thing stated at the most ridiculous time. A less noble character would have added a "what are you moronic?" in there for good measure.
I believe that if Lucas never sold star wars episode 7 would be more about actual balance in the force, using both light and darkside and never falling to either. that one line of "we are losing our connection to the force" really stuck with me
Prequels are a reference to the gulf war, the republic is America and Anakin is a veteran, he realizes he was used his entire life by the government.
was Jar Jar a sith?
just another angry incel homosexual who thinks the world owes him so he shoot s up a school.
He was a narcissist. ME ME ME I I I I want MY CAKE AND EAT IT TOO THE RULES DON'T APPLY BECAUSE I'M SPECIAL.
Almost every male under 25 is a narcissist
He was an incel
Proof that pussy with ruin your life
Why was his turn done so poorly? I didn't want an edgelord turn, but holy frick was that the best they came up with? I
The only thing that was out of place was Mustafar, which is a shame because in a vacuum I really like that sequence. That was the only time he was edgy and lusted for power and authority. Even on Mustafar but before Padme showed up he had just done something terrible by accident and instinct and figured he had crossed a line he couldn't come home from and decided that was his life now even if he didn't want it. It really played into his characterization in the later movies, especially 6 where he was broken and trapped until Luke showed him it's never too late
>Mustafar
If you watch closely, he's crying while he's killing them all.
The original script had a line in that scene
>"But Lord Sidious said we would be handsomely rewarded!"
>"You don't think I'm handsome?"
>saberToTheFace.gif
Haha nice quip, bro. But it got (righteously) cut because it was completely inappropriate for the moment for Anakin to have any levity.
>literally takes 3 long movies to show how fricked up his life was to eventually sway him
>it was so sudden!
Why are morons like this? Can zoomers not absorb anything that isn't tik tok length now?
I don’t know why or if it’s specifically zoomers but Anakin was deeply deeply troubled as both a child and a “Good Guy,” that’s kind of the point of the prequels, so his fall was not that far. But I guess RLM told them he saved a clone so he’s a saint
>Goes from feeling remorse over getting Dindu killed to mercilessly killing children
hmm I wonder
>cause everyone's just one thing all the time w zero moral struggles
I'm convinced you're all robots. Even the OT w mecha Vader showed us he was still struggling w it all. His life was prob hell for all those years.
Go watch a movie like The Godfather where a good person convincingly becomes evil over time and you will realize how incompetently Anakin’s turn is handled. Even Greek fall from grace plays written thousands of years ago are more compelling.
Anakin is not actually evil (at first). He just throws his lot in with Palpatine and then has to go all the way
>michael is good boi
>dad gets shot
>michael bad boi now
>kills two homies and skiddadles
>is now edgy mean man
WHY WAS IT SO SUDDEN AND UNFORESEEN
Michael knew what his fate would be and was making all the necessary moves to move up as Don, even when he was being contrarian by joining the navy and dating Kay.
>godfather a good person
lmao, its not the same narrative, no even close
star wars has to much things going on to develop on anakin, so they fit what they can in the movie lenght
still, the fall of Anakin Skywalker and rise of Darth Vader is in concept and narrative is one of the greatest of modern times, just shit executed on movies
its like an idea that would be kino if writen by a guy like shakespeare and then filmed by akira kurosawa
Lucas said that the point of ROTS was to explore how far someone would go to save the person he loved. If a wizard told you that the only way to save your waifu and unborn child from dying was to kill your friends, would you do it?
I agree. I think it's passable up until the assault on the Jedi temple. He helps kill Windu in a moment of panic but then he jumps from that to total evil way too fast.
The Tuskin Raider massacre (all of them, raiders, women, children) in Attack of The Clones, not to mention his rapy stalker seduction of Amidalla
Disney vindicated George and the prequels in a way that I didn't think was possible. It is the epitome of soul vs soulless.
He got groomed.
he was groomed to be a transhumanist like a troony
The dark side is like a drug addiction. It's pure dopamine that gets released whenever you use it. It's why Palpatine was basically nutting when he used his unlimited power.
RotJ is literally just Luke helping his father with a drug addiction.
Yeah. Vader seems absolutely euphoric.
sand in his vegana
You underestimate his power
He didn't take a sip
Bad writing and CG that was only mildly impressive at the time and just looks like a soulless clusterfrick now.
Gay
>Dreams of his wife dying
>Asks the Jedi to save her
>Told no and also you're not going to be a master Jedi cause you won't break your attachment with the woman you love
>Offered a way to save his wife
>Becomes a murderer
A tale as old as time
Groomed by Sheev, and trained by the Jedi into being an emotionless, loveless robot despite having the strongest emotions of any Jedi in history. Literally all it took to btfo of the Jedi philosophy was for Anakin to get laid.
Padme
Even purely looking at just the movies, he was a product of the Jedi's own stupidity
>boy is too old
>he can't take to our lessons blah blah blah
>well frick it, we'll take in our messiah anyway
>but despite admitting he will have a hard time truly adopting our ways, if he even can, we're going to not change a single thing, and treat him like shit for his short comings and not acknowledge his strengths
>why yes, treating a former slave like this surely can't go wrong
Also, the pivotal moment where he had to choose could not have been more perfect for Sheev
>Anakin, choose me, the mentor and father figure, who can save your wife's life, or this dick bag who has been a dick bag to you from day one
It doesn't absolve Anakin of his bullshit, but the Jedi had it coming, one way or the other.
Also, let's not forget
>Ani, we can't be together. But not a few hours later I'm going to cram my body into a BSDM corset and talk with you in a dimly lit room by the fireplace
got gaslighted to hard by Palpy and burnt so many bridges, by the time it was clear palpy gaslighted him it was to late to go back
Unironically raised by a single mother.
>hey, it seems like you jedi guys are rolling in cash, just look at this bomb ass temple. can you spare some money to buy my MOTHER from SLAVERY?
>no, and you can't do anything to save your wife
Watto doesn't take republican credits. Their "cash" was worth nothing
I'm sure they had stacks of other monies for off-world trading and shit, they were basically Galaxy-Cops
I mean, Padme was a fricking queen and didn't bother helping her after either.
To be fair, I'm sure she had more bullshit to worry about like being a queen of a post-occupied planet and getting her first period, but for the champion of liberty she was supposed to be, she sure forgot about that that nice slave lady that helped her out pretty quickly.
PRIME DIRECTIVE
Unironically why didn’t they just kill Watto? The dude was objectively a terrible being who used slave labor and worked with the Hutts.
I feel like it would have been interesting to have Anakin’s mom freed in Phantom Menace with him but have AOTC involve bounty hunters trying to reclaim her and killing her in the process which angers Anakin.
Because the Republic is crippled by its principles while also thinking it's amazing and perfect, that's part of the message and why it failed
Like when Padme rolls up on Tatooine and says
>Wha??? But slavery is illegal so how can they do slavery :O
Tatooine is outer rim (good place to hide out) and the Republic has become too weak/beaurcratic to do much out on the fringes. Remember, Amidala is young, sheltered and idealistic.
What don't you understand about 'no attachments'?
>OOBA OOBA
what did he mean by this?
>OOBANE OOBANE
I love this shithole board sometimes.
He's a big boy.
HAHAHAHA
audibly keked
became a fakecel
he needed mental health care, but jedi insurance was shit
The Dark Side of the force prays on strong passions, and actually corrupts a mind towards evil if those passions aren't well tamed.
To address this, the Old Jedi Order takes the approach of muting all passions. Sever all attachments. No passion, no problem.
Kind of works, but only because they take Jedi as babies.
Anakin is passionate, has a rough childhood, and is especially attached to his mom.
Jedi completely unequipped to deal with this individual, but they're too set in their ways to even realize.
Palpatine sees this coming a mile away, sets himself up as the father figure that the Jedi would never provide.
Anakin loses his mother because he never saved her because he was too busy with Jedi stuff.
Anakin gets married in secret.
Yoda tells Anakin to:
>Let go of that which you are afraid to lose
Not a fricking option for Anakin Skywalker.
Jedi Order has literally no other approach to deal with this problem.
Palpatine steps in to fill the void.
>"Hey, come to the dark side, it'll help, I swear"
No-brainer for Anakin.
He watched Death Note until Ryuzaki died not until the end
he realized the jedi order were hypocrites trying to control everything. they enforced the balance of the force but it was literally unbalanced toward the light side.
you see, the dark and light side are just made up. only the force itself is legitimate, doesnt matter how its used.
the problem comes when abusing the force corrupts the soul which what happened to anakin. luke didnt want want to be addicted to what evil shit he could do with the force like his dad.
He was passed over for a promotion.
>Obi wan kills Maul
>this is the eventual catalyst for his Master status
>Anakin goes through the clone wars, is one of the best, defeats major threats multiple times
>get's passed over
>thinks his wife has a life threatening issue
>get's denied any help on it
It all makes sense. The prequels were a stealth Postal adaption
There was nothing stealthy about the prequels treatment of Anakin, he was mistreated and it was a setup orchestrated by Palpatine/Sidious. The only stealth in the prequels was the clone army and the droid army being produced by the same people and it's only stealthy if you weren't paying attention.
Across the Stars, Anakin and Padme's love theme, is the best star wars song. Prove me wrong.
Gungan marching band at the end of Phantom Menace (unless you hate marching bands, then it sucked).
>The way that Padme turns to that little boy and grins at him
She's a monster.
Poor Annie never stood a chance.
"Gungan Victory" by the U of O Mighty Ducks marching band.
no wait, this is the actual version from the soundtrack titled Naboo Parade Finale, not Gungan Victory.
Reminder he got reprimanded more for talking back to the Jedi Council than he ever did for committing ethnic cleansing on Tatooine (seriously why did Yoda and the council literally never discuss this).
What makes you think that Yoda and the council knew it happened?
Yoda did sense Anakin's pain during his revenge on Tatooine (Attack of The Clones). The start of the revenge rage scene and Yoda having feels scene. The bigger question is why was Padme still attracted after he raged at her "I killed them all, ALL of them, children, women..." Padme isn't any better than Anakin. Lucas got his point across, this is NOT about good vs evil.
Padme was turned on by it.
I think so too. Lucas isn't a fool.
Like mother, like daughter. Both have a thing for dangerous, exciting bad boys but with a vulnerable, childlike side so they can mother them. Both Padme/Anakin and Leia/Han have pronounced maternal undertones.
As an adult I can now see why people hated the prequels. There is a lot of stupid shit in them. But they are still infinitely better than the sequels. At least the prequels had decent action. Cool characters doing cool things. The sequels couldn't even manage that. I unironically think the hyperspace ship weapon was the best scene in all of the sequels, just because it was a cool visual effect.
According to the palpatine backstory he used the force to make his mom preggo
>this
or is it???
He was an incel and didn't have sex
Knew Leia and Luke were Obi Wans kids the whole time
Palpatine made him
What did you expect to happen?
Autistic and got groomed in every possible way by everyone around him