SHOGUN CRITICISED BY HISTORIAN IN JAPAN

Doesn't film Osaka castle's hall properly, lacking even the roof.
Having vassals and samurai openly commit drawing sword and even seppuku inside a lord's castle
Important meetings happen in some frickwit fishing village
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f26388797d88f6c15c2e3c18e4b281ccdc647933

Shogun is exposed!!!! Just a piece of history by foreigners.

Sanada should be ashamed. Hollywood is evil and is still trying to make japanese look like uncivilized barbarians.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based Cinemaphilechad, it's a universal impulse for historians to shit on Hollywood

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just another example of jap "nobody understands me" resentment

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically this. But sadly modern Japs don't even understand themselves which is why they can't produce a proper historical drama on their own without resorting into anime and tokusatsu tropes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Westerners think too highly of themselves, even an anime is more accurate than some Hollywood bullshit (Angolmois manga vs. Ghost of Tsushima).

        None of GoT is fricking real.

        But Edo was a frickwit fishing village before Tokugawa.

        That's true moron, Edo was a city.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Edo was a city.
          Not before Tokugawa took it over. Odawara and Kamakura were the proper cities then.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Angolmois manga

          Still subject to anime/manga tropes.

          The last time Japs made a good historical drama was Heaven and Earth. Hojo Tokimune TV show would've been half decent if they didn't use tokusatsu tropes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anime/manga trope literally comes from history.

            Anyway, they make historical shit every times, in fact, they made the Kubi movie last year about Nobunaga.

            Heaven & Earth is good but it's old.

            It's really shameful that westoids think bullshit like GoT is in any way "historical".

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Who said GoT is historical? Because I sure did not say anything about GoT.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OK, that's good. I see a lot of gays claiming GoT is historical when motherfricking Sekiro is more historical than it.

                And do you know Princess Mononoke is not even fantasy Japan but is actually historical fiction?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I see a lot of gays claiming GoT is historical

                Show me. Because this is the first time I've heard of this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean Ghost of Tsushima here.

                Just create a thread on Cinemaphile, they will clown in and say GoT is "historical".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You disappoint me. I know you are having fun. But that was disappointing. I thought you are better than that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't understand, fren? What did I do?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > What is Seven Samurai

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but whats his take on the last samurai?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are there really people who think this show is even remotely historically accurate?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly there are more people stunned by the level of accuracy they committed to, from dialects to body movements. It’s very much improved and japified over the novel and previous tv show.
      >muh show isn’t a documentary
      And it never will be.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      100% accurate? No. I did watch it thinking it had at least some accuracy, maybe 15%, specifically in regards to the fragile nation state and just general hierarchy of a young Taiko and lords vying for power and also as I know nothing at all about 1600s Japan I also at least assumed the place was being used heavily by Portugal at that time. Just the basics, everything each character says and does, I assume is either factually wrong or edited for artistic liberty.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >are there really people who think this show is even remotely historically accurate?
      I had at least a dozen normalgays tell me black women got us on the moon, and I live in eastern europe where nobody even likes nogs

      Normalgays 100% believe anything they see on Cinemaphile

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is the dangerous part about movies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >chuds call this propaganda
        >perma virgin leftoids say nuh uh
        >hear 10+ people at work talk about how they never knew 3 black women LITERALLY landed on the moon by themselves before watching this movie
        Not a good feeling, thankfully i cant feel much anymore.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Every single person who has ever actually met a black woman in real life knows it’s absolute fiction. Yes even the troons .

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All the fanboys in the Shogun general think this series is historically accurate lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You use it? Why are you seething about them here instead of taking it up with them?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What are you so defensive about? You asked if anybody thinks this show is historically accurate.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not the guy who made first post, idgaf about it being accurate or not.
            You were just acting like a little b***h.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >responding to a post is "acting like a b***h'

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Naw I called you a b***h for throwing a b***hfit over a general you frequent.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I calmly answered a question. You are throwing a b***hfit right now. You are obviously defensive because you are a poster there lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are a poster there though, your original post confessed to that. Anything you accuse me of now applies to you except you're also too intimidated to talk shit there.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not the guy who made first post, idgaf about it being accurate or not.
          You were just acting like a little b***h.

          Naw I called you a b***h for throwing a b***hfit over a general you frequent.

          Generals posters really get offended when you attack their subreddit. Do you also meet on Discord with your favorite general friends?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >are there really people who think this show is even remotely historically accurate?

      Cool it with the racism.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was Tokugawa Iyeasu's tax policy THOUGH

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokudaka

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thank you

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not historically accurate
    that's because it's japan's future being portrayed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Biggu whaitu radish???

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japans future is Armenians fricking Jap women? You gays actually watch this cucked shit?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i thought the Armenians were wiped out by the Turks?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's still a work in progress.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This work of historical fiction is inaccurate
    You don't say

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese here.
    This drama is certainly a mess when viewed from the perspective of historical accuracy.
    However, compared to bullshit like The Last Samurai produced by Americans about twenty years ago, it has been greatly improved.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It still has the whole whitey fricking japanese widow bullshit.

      I'm surprised no japanese seems to take offense to that, it's completely cuckold shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They tend to separate fiction from reality, so don't get seethed about that.
        That's why they find it strange that Wests are debating the race of anime characters.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is literally humiliation ritual, it really is.

          The show straight out talks about how big the whitoid dick is, it completely takes me out of the whole thing, no "historical fiction" talks about big dick.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tbf, There is no value beyond symbolism in having a big dick.
            The notion that women are more pleased the larger it is is nothing more than porn fantasy.
            In reality, petite women may experience discomfort and dislike sexual intercourse with big dick.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no such scene in the show.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japan is an entire nation of cucks though, just contentedly sucking American daddies wiener. Lost the war, got bombed, surrendered to America, became occupied, is filled with American military bases, can’t have own army because America says so. How. Embarrassing. Imagine losing this much to the white man. Lol.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Last Samurai is more historically accurate than Shogun thoughever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, Last Samurai has sengoku-era armor samurai fighting against Meiji trained troops, it's 100% fiction.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like I said more accurate than Shogun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's fiction
          No one evr claimed it wasn't.
          Shogun, Last Samurai and whatever else you wanna cite. These things are entertainment slop and virgin historians always feeling the need to weigh in about historiccal accuracy misses that point completely. If I wanted 100% historical accuracy i'd pick up a book on the matter.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I laughed at loud when they fought against modern imperial army with bows and arrows.
        Yes, very accurate.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's based on the novel. Do they even know this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He knows, and he correctly says it's a show made for foreigners.

      Westerners aren't interested in asian history.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But Edo was a frickwit fishing village before Tokugawa.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You gotta imagine Japan was worse than most of Europe in 1600 so really everywhere should look like a backwater

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't Japan called Zipang at this point?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's called Nippon.

      You gotta imagine Japan was worse than most of Europe in 1600 so really everywhere should look like a backwater

      Japan is much cleaner than medieval European city.

      Like actually watch japanese taiga dramas for christ sake.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Japan is much cleaner than medieval European city.
        1600 isn't medieval but also people believe this simply because it's a trope, Japan was filthier than usually shown and Europe was less filthy realistically

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Edo period is literally peak cleaniness since it's peace time.

          Unless you are in some frickwit village, you shouldn't see much dirt or stain at all.

          Japanese, like all asian, love cleaniless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Japanese used human shit for fertiliser and that stank up every place as fields were everywhere.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's literally human standards.

              Some chinese still use human shite.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >human
                Bugmen you mean.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Japanese, like all asian, love cleaniless.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Westernized Korea, clean.
              >Asian Korea, unclean.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >human
              Bugmen you mean.

              Please visit London and Paris.

              Please.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this does not include littered waste
                Bro read it next time

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Does this chart include the western countries who dump all their shit in the asian oceans?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                New cope has arrived

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But it's true. Forcing regulations on citizens and then dumping it on the other side of the planet while never shutting up about how "green" we are.
                I hate our governments for this bullshit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                China alone produces more pollution than anyone else in the world.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's true and I didn't say they didn't. You know multiple things can be true at the same time. It's not always just black and white.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >japans
      >zipang
      might just be western phonetic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japan, Zipangu is based on how the chinese called Japan - liben.

        As a Japanese I have to say Shogun is at a considerably better standard compared to typical fantasy Japan created by Hollywood.

        Stop defending this WMAF shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Stop defending this WMAF shit
          So is your issue with the show "historical inaccuracy" or are you just upset about wmaf being portrayed in media?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't expect historical accuracy from israeliteruwood but the WMAF is so blatant it pisses me off.

            Look, I agree that Shogun is a fantasy made by foreigners and I get why this makes them upset.
            But culturally speaking, I consider it them getting their just deserts.
            Japanese people fricking LOVE making fantasies about western culture where they deliberately frick with our histories and myths, so it's totally fair game when we do the same shit to them.
            >King Arthur is actually a girl who gets piped by a Japanese teenager!
            Okay, fair, do what you want. But now you don't have the right to complain when we do the same crap to your mythological/historical figures.
            Frick off.

            When Japanese makes shows involving western elements, they are always done with respect in mind.

            No such thing is given to the japanese.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >When Japanese makes shows involving western elements, they are always done with respect in mind.
              >No such thing is given to the japanese.
              bloody 'ell m8

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Quit being a fricking weeb, you know it's all the same. If your argument was that cultural appropriation for the consumption of foreigners was always bad and/or harmful to the original culture, I would at least respect your opinion. Not agree with it, but I could respect it.
              This shit though?
              You KNOW you're full of crap. You're alright with it when they do it, you're not alright with it when we do it. You're a hypocrite and your argument may as well just boil down to "I ideologically resent western media but worship anime, and will say whatever the frick it takes to grind my axe even if the argument doesn't make sense."
              Frick off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound mad, but no, WMAF is literally humiliation ritual, I will not stand for that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >King Arthur is actually a girl who gets piped by a Japanese teenager!
                It's utterly nonsensical to equate big-budget dramas produced by the West and released worldwide mainstream with porn games enjoyed secretly by a very small minority of Japanese nerds underground.
                The same goes for anime and manga; Japanese never ask the West to "watch this"
                It's just that foreigners discovered what they enjoyed domestically and spread it worldwide

                https://www.reddit.com/r/AsianMasculinity/
                Perhaps you'll find people who share your opinions here? Godspeed!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those LARPers worship whitoid women which I find puzzling.
                >

                >When Japanese makes shows involving western elements, they are always done with respect in mind.


                When Japanese try to use western elements it always misses the mark, the difference is people in the west celebrate the synthesis of whatever novel creation comes out while the Japanese just get butthurt.
                To be fair, most western shit fricking sucks, but when Jap shit is bad we don't get our panties in a bunch, and when western shit is good they still can't take it.
                They should learn to loosen up.
                >When Japanese try to use western elements it always misses the mark, the difference is people in the west celebrate the synthesis of whatever novel creation comes out while the Japanese just get butthurt.
                Yeah, like Dark Souls, am I right?

                The shit is better than actual westoid shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah, like Dark Souls, am I right?
                That came to mind right after I wrote that as something that almost passes for western. Still, the designs in the game are something no westerner would come up with, which is why it's good.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dark Souls is japanese in soul, and no one will mistake it for a western game.

                The westoids have lost their soul for centuries now.

                There is no argument, I'm insulting in you and you will take it and come back for more like an asian trophy wife.

                You are a disgusting slop of a man, black soul.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The westoids have lost their soul for centuries now.
                For most respects, yes. We still had some great music in the last century.

              • 3 weeks ago
                my mom

                noone in Japan has any soul tho.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >When Japanese makes shows involving western elements, they are always done with respect in mind.
              When Japanese try to use western elements it always misses the mark, the difference is people in the west celebrate the synthesis of whatever novel creation comes out while the Japanese just get butthurt.
              To be fair, most western shit fricking sucks, but when Jap shit is bad we don't get our panties in a bunch, and when western shit is good they still can't take it.
              They should learn to loosen up.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You sound mad, but no, WMAF is literally humiliation ritual, I will not stand for that.

              Japan, Zipangu is based on how the chinese called Japan - liben.
              [...]
              Stop defending this WMAF shit.

              It also doesn't have disgusting WMAF shit too.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(pilot)
              It really happened, deal with it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              my mom

              you are not even frickin japaneese. real japs have no problem with Shogun. sensitive b***h ass redditor mutterfricker

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally shows otherwise.

                Cope b***h.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >16:39
                So which central Asian shithole are you from darkie?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm Vietman.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yooooooooo *gong* butu whatu aboutu da whitu manu
                Pitiful ching chong insects.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He is going to get raped?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russy is never going to be the same.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Go back to r/aznmasculinity cuckold.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a Japanese I have to say Shogun is at a considerably better standard compared to typical fantasy Japan created by Hollywood.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This show and the 3 Soi Problems really show much westoids want to colonize Asia, it's insane.

    I'm scared, bros.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gib dat yellow pussy riceboi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      8/10 of the episodes have Asian woman writers. People have started complaining how much the show is aimed at women. This is the work of your second greatest enemy, not us white boys.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Asian American b***hes I bet.

        These prostitutes shittalk whitoids all days but all want to frick them, Anna Sawai doesn't even have a kanji name.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol you're right I'm reading OP's article and they write her name like a foreigner's with katakana.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            More proof she's not japanese.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Although now that I read the article, that historian seems to be bullshitting.

            >However, records show that when the Liefde, on which Adams was modeled after Blackson, drifted ashore in present-day Usuki City, Oita Prefecture, the local people kindly cared for the ailing sailors, tending to their ailments and feeding them.

            Truth:
            >When the nine surviving crew members were strong enough to stand, they made landfall on 19 April off Bungo (present-day Usuki, Ōita Prefecture). They were met by Japanese locals and Portuguese Jesuit missionary priests claiming that Adams's ship was a pirate vessel and that the crew should be executed as pirates. The ship was seized and the sickly crew were imprisoned at Osaka Castle on orders by Tokugawa Ieyasu, the daimyō of Edo and future shōgun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s 澤井杏奈 you absolute moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, it isn't.

            Cope b***h.
            アンナ・サワイ

            アンナ・サワイ アンナ・サワイ アンナ・サワイ

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what an ugly looking language

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it's katakana.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                in english thanks, i dont speak bug

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It just says "Anna Sawai" many times
                ア=a ン=n ナ=na
                サ=sa ワ=wa イ=i

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s the language for foreigners and women.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hiragana was for women, the Genji monogatari was written by it. Women were generally not to use the more formal katakana

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He does seem to be right
              https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%BE%A4%E4%BA%95%E6%9D%8F%E5%A5%88

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This b***h isn't japanese.

                I'm kinda glad they chose this b***h for humiliation ritual tho, it fits perfectly into the whitoid's scheme.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're really desperately try to force this phrase aren't you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep.

                It's honestly a great representation of both cultures:

                > Japan adapts a story: is whimsical, unique, and original like the people adapting the story

                > US adapts something: everyone's literally a violent subhuman who speaks in vulgarity, gratuitous sex scenes that are often rape and obsessed with making every character say how great the white man is just like the people adapting the story

                Literally shown here:

                The japanese equivalence to Shogun is Isaac, and it's actually much more authentic to european history.

                Again, asians still respect white pipo when they don't get the same respect.

                We asians are too fricking nice.

                The whitoids just want to kill us or cuck us, it's weird as frick.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, we love you and want to have sex with you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody wants to frick viets.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I do. Viets and South Chinese. Built for me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Viet women are considered cheap and sexy. I5s why tons of Japanese perverts retire there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have terminal yellow fever. I'll frick any of them if we vibe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I will frick viets.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like all Asian girls they're so docile and tight

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You said:
              > Anna Sawai doesn't even have a kanji name.
              That is, of course, not true

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >anna Sawai doesn’t even have a kanji name

          Kek, how wrong you are.

          穴 騒い

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no one got my joke

            God I’m such a dork

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're really cute.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anyone who did like me wouldn't care to comment because we're too high class.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Misaka Mikoto!

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ironic, if Mitsunari beat Tokugawa Christianity may have survived in Japan since Mitsunari's side wanted to preserve the Toyotomi Shogunate which was weakly held by a child and his regents. Yet one reason they lost was from losing trust from Christian allies after Gracia died as his hostage.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hideyoshi was the guy who told all the christnigeru to get out of Japan.

      Only Oda is a christboo but I think he will rethink the whole Christ thing when he finds out Portugese trade japanese as slaves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hideyoshi had been dead for two years by the time Tokugawa and Mitsunari fought the battle of Sekigahara. The head of the Toyotomi clan was a 7 year old at the time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, and? Tokugawa was anti-Christ and Mitsunari was big on Mencius.

          Tbf, There is no value beyond symbolism in having a big dick.
          The notion that women are more pleased the larger it is is nothing more than porn fantasy.
          In reality, petite women may experience discomfort and dislike sexual intercourse with big dick.

          You are as vulgar as a nigeru.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Only Oda is a christboo but I think he will rethink the whole Christ thing when he finds out Portugese trade japanese as slaves
        You mean something that was banned by the Portuguese crown and actively fought against by the Jesuits?
        Christ, you're moronic. Oda literally waged war on the native religious order and used the bodies of pissed on Shinto monks to make gunpowder.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean Buddhist monks, there's no "Shinto monk", that part is controversial because Buddhist in Japan is very militant.

          Also, Portugese don't consider nipponjin human, hence they trade slaves anyway.

          Hideyoshi found out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol, it's hillarious that this is the complaint and not that it's onesided Dutch Protestant propaganda

            >Also, Portugese don't consider nipponjin human, hence they trade slaves anyway.
            you're literally making shit up, homosexual. Every historical record shows that the slave trade continued covertly by merchants with the support of native merchants as was opposed by both crown and religious authorities.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you're literally making shit up, homosexual. Every historical record shows that the slave trade continued covertly by merchants with the support of native merchants as was opposed by both crown and religious authorities.
              This is the same thing they said about da black pipo.

              But it didn't work with Japan, Hideyoshi told them to frick off, and Tokugawa continued his policy.

              They even tried to ape out in Shimahara and got destroyed.

              >not that it's onesided Dutch Protestant propaganda
              Like who gives a shit? This is Japan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is the same thing they said about da black pipo.
                You're an actual fricking moron. The African Slave trade was never condemned by either the monarchy or the Church. It was actively viewed as being a positive over the enslavement of the Native Americans, which was banned.

                >Like who gives a shit?
                because you dumb fricking ape it's fricking historically inaccurate
                >This is Japan
                and there were multiple European powers jockeying for trade connection with Japan and the show bases the interactions between them on Dutch propaganda you walnut-brained insectoid

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You're an actual fricking moron. The African Slave trade was never condemned by either the monarchy or the Church. It was actively viewed as being a positive over the enslavement of the Native Americans, which was banned.
                White pipo are their degrees and word play, I don't give a shit.
                >because you dumb fricking ape it's fricking historically inaccurate
                Both are gaijin and don't matter in the grand scheme of the plot.
                >and there were multiple European powers jockeying for trade connection with Japan and the show bases the interactions between them on Dutch propaganda you walnut-brained insectoid
                At this point in time, it's near the Tokugawa period, which means sakoku, these gaijin clowns are getting pushed out of Japan.

                As always, the westerners will make a show about Japan about them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobunaga wasn't christboo
        He just wanted trade with Spain for gun powder and metals for ammo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's true he was interested in Christianity because Buddhism wasn't edgy enough for him.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Religious doctrine was not important to Nobunaga, only whether it served his ambitions or not.
            That's the key point.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, I just think if he's alive, he will wise up real quick to the christnigeru schemes.

              While Oda is anti-Buddhism, he's open to Confucianism and Sun Tzu, and study the chinese classics, he knows a israeliteru if he sees one.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look, I agree that Shogun is a fantasy made by foreigners and I get why this makes them upset.
    But culturally speaking, I consider it them getting their just deserts.
    Japanese people fricking LOVE making fantasies about western culture where they deliberately frick with our histories and myths, so it's totally fair game when we do the same shit to them.
    >King Arthur is actually a girl who gets piped by a Japanese teenager!
    Okay, fair, do what you want. But now you don't have the right to complain when we do the same crap to your mythological/historical figures.
    Frick off.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we wuz knights and sheeit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >King Arthur is actually a girl who gets piped by a Japanese teenager!
      It's utterly nonsensical to equate big-budget dramas produced by the West and released worldwide mainstream with porn games enjoyed secretly by a very small minority of Japanese nerds underground.
      The same goes for anime and manga; Japanese never ask the West to "watch this"
      It's just that foreigners discovered what they enjoyed domestically and spread it worldwide

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's honestly a great representation of both cultures:

      > Japan adapts a story: is whimsical, unique, and original like the people adapting the story

      > US adapts something: everyone's literally a violent subhuman who speaks in vulgarity, gratuitous sex scenes that are often rape and obsessed with making every character say how great the white man is just like the people adapting the story

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wish we were whimsical about a lot more things anon.
        I wouldn't consider ~~*them*~~ our culture.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most isekai stories are the dudes going to other worlds to frick, kill and rule everything there.

        >just like the people adapting the story
        You mean the asian women?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not most isekai story and you know that.
          >You mean the asian women?
          It's old white men who are behind the screen.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should watch thermae roma

      Shit is hilarious.
      Also the Japanese centric view of everything is nihonjinron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seconding thermae romae, speaking as a whitoid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's more like an alternate universe where the role of king arthur was thrust upon a woman and her spirit was summoned and then piped by a japanese teenager

      >King Arthur is actually a girl who gets piped by a Japanese teenager!
      It's utterly nonsensical to equate big-budget dramas produced by the West and released worldwide mainstream with porn games enjoyed secretly by a very small minority of Japanese nerds underground.
      The same goes for anime and manga; Japanese never ask the West to "watch this"
      It's just that foreigners discovered what they enjoyed domestically and spread it worldwide

      fate is not a "porn game enjoyed secretly", it's the most popular visual novel ever made, even before gaijin distributed it everywhere
      and the porn is optional.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny that Jap historians b***h about this, but then go on to say the rape of Nanking and unit 731 did not exist.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do japs take issue with this but not their own media and anime that flanderize their culture and history to the world?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know one anime that tries to say it's historically accurate LOL.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When did Shogun try to say its historically accurate?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Muh authenticity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh that's referring to the WMAF.
            Otherwise it's historical fiction, a book someone wrote. You can understand that right bug?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, I can point how inaccurate and dumb the book and show is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >everything except the WMAF is inauthentic
                Based

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe they shot it in Vancouver and didn't get a single japanese writer.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? Jap dramas set in that period look like shit and have moronic overacting, even if it is ore accurate it's less entertaining
    Plus no one is pretending the plot actually happened- you know because it's FICTION (albeit based on a true story)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't know shit, homosexual.

      This movie alone shits on the whole western series.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are countless ''historians'' in Japan too. It's absolutely nothing surprising that some of them, especially Japanese ones, become attention prostitutes by being nitpicky since the show became kinda popular worldwide and highly rated everywhere.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy copium.

      Most japanese aren't even interested in this show, it's all westoids.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The article literally mentions it's also praised by a Japanese journo on the largest newspaper in Japan

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Japanese journos like all journos deserve their kubi cut.

          I do really enjoy how often they cut motherfrickers heads off and how totally nonchalant they all are about it.

          The first one with the praying Japanese peasant happens so fast I was legitimately shocked by it.

          You know it's completely inaccurate right?

          This is no different than the whole English kings eat babies thing in Braveheart.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't really care lol, it's awesome. Seriously heads roll I think every episode, it's nonstop.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I bet you love black slavery propaganda.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You know it's completely inaccurate right?
            What exactly is innacurate about it? Every type of media created about the period (even ones by the japanese themselves) show how quick the japanese would decide to kill each other, or take their own life.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              slant's just pissed samurai are being shown as the peasant control force they really were instead of brave honorabu warriors that japan told the rest of the world they were

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hapabros... I apologize my chin is attached to my chest begging for your mercy

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do really enjoy how often they cut motherfrickers heads off and how totally nonchalant they all are about it.

    The first one with the praying Japanese peasant happens so fast I was legitimately shocked by it.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is exactly why Johnny Somali needs to be granted diplomatic immunity to roam around Japan saying what he likes

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    true japanese used to be black around that time

    the yellow asiatics invaded from korea somewhere around 1970s

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The japanese kuristan were hated so much they used Satanism to resurrect warriors to usurp the power of the Tokugawa shogun.

    As depicted in Makai Tensho:

    Masterpiece.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit, Hiroyuki Sanada was in this movie too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was iconic action star in this era.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, I'm glad he's still working in movies.

          He needs to get back to Japan and makes more chad samurai movies, frick Hollywood.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sanada has always been a hack who takes token Japanese roles in Hollywood because all he cares about is money

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think he means well but he's played by the ~~*Hollywood*~~ producers.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me japanese friends, do japanese kids still know of Yagyu Juubei?

    Do they? ;_;

    Elden Ring's Ronin set is based on him.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shogun was actually much more respectful towards those historical figures than whatever crap like pic related that Japan made.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, no, just no, anime shows are for fun, they are not advertised as authentic.

      >everything except the WMAF is inauthentic
      Based

      More like everything including the WMAF.

      The real life Addams marries some merchant's daughter, not some princess.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lose weight weeb moron.
        No one is taking this as historically accurate, even japs their history with more humor than you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Except again, the show is advertised as muh authentic, it's not.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >authentic
            You keep repeating this as if you think people will suddenly start caring that its inaccurate. Just makes you look like a dork to be honest.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's when you lose the argument.
              I accept your concession.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no argument, I'm insulting in you and you will take it and come back for more like an asian trophy wife.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know shit about this show but I know that to the extent of and how it's inaccurate typically reveals what narratives ~~*they*~~ are pushing in whatever this new piece of prolific mass media is.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they are not advertised as authentic.
        bro, they literally used fake name for the characters in Shogun.
        Those anime series literally using the real person names and depicted them in humiliating and embarrassing moments.

        Show name?

        Oda Nobunaga no Yabou is the game series.

        Oda Nobuna no Yabou, basically all the historical figures were literal teenagers except Hideyoshi, who was killed and replaced by Isekai'd MC.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Those anime series literally using the real person names and depicted them in humiliating and embarrassing moments.
          And? The anime is not meant to be serious and does not advertise it as authentic.
          >Oda Nobuna no Yabou, basically all the historical figures were literal teenagers except Hideyoshi, who was killed and replaced by Isekai'd MC.
          Sound cool, watchan.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The anime is not meant to be serious and does not advertise it as authentic.
            Even if it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, wouldn't it be more disrespectful to make revered figures like Tokugawa, Nobunaga, etc. into overly sexualized underage girls?
            Rather than Shogun who just took inspiration from real historical accounts and still made sure everything depicted accurately like the dynamics between the Lords and retainers, womens' role, etc.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Even if it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, wouldn't it be more disrespectful to make revered figures like Tokugawa, Nobunaga, etc. into overly sexualized underage girls?
              Nope, shit's cool as frick.
              >Rather than Shogun who just took inspiration from real historical accounts and still made sure everything depicted accurately like the dynamics between the Lords and retainers, womens' role, etc.
              Shogun tries to pretend it's real when it's not, it doesn't even try to portrait the feeling accurately, it's literally whitoid fantasy about Japan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Shogun tries to pretend it's real when it's not
                All the people have different names exactly because it doesn't pretend to be real

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Again, they are clearly trying to advertise the show as muh authencity, muh real japanese culture.

                The show does NOT deliver.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Again, they are clearly trying to advertise the show as muh authencity, muh real japanese culture.
                Show proof.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://abc7ny.com/shogun-fx-japanese-culture-authentic-storytelling/14514783/

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't see any lies on that.
                Even if some of the events were modified and dramatized, it's still based on the social dynamics around that time.

                Shogun is historically accurate and any naysayers are below 5"0. Every episode directly alters the timeline in the way Shogun intended. Please support the official release.

                Those naysayers are jealous Korean American who're trying to bring down Shogun's popularity.
                They're seething since they have kino history like Japan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh social dynamics
                >japanese are crazy and they cut down their guts every times there's something wrong
                It's honestly baffling that Sanada allows this shit.

                Seppuku is last resort shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I’ll kill myself and makes me the winner
                Where have I heard this before?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The show does NOT deliver.
                The biggest criticism of historical accuracy of setting is that a roof was missing on a building lmao get a grip

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is literally Osaka castle, which is something that still exists.

                They literally don't film Japan LOL.

                its a fantasification of the sengoku period and the 'real' happenings. there is no historical value in this version, it even looks as fake as possible, costumes, color grading, lenses and the acting feel extremely fake. theres no reason to be upset about accuracy when its clearly not trying to be realistic at all. i remember a tidbit from the 80a version where people were laughing at how mifune was talking when he himself told them that it would be more time appropriate pronounciation and wording.

                In the 80s version, Mifune was told to speak English "Good morning, Anjin-san", he thought it was ridiculous so he speaks japanese instead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem with the castle was that it was actually based on the modern standing version, not the earlier, right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, it's literally a courtyard with no roof in the show.

                It's weird as frick because this show goes against japanese castle design.

                >The real life Addams marries some merchant's daughter, not some princess
                There is no princess in Shogun. Mariko is not a princess you moron.

                Noblewomen or whatever.
                Addams beds a merchant's daughter, get that through your brain.

                This show is no different than showing a white woman kissing a black. It was made to help racemixers cope and encourage mixing.
                When in reality if you have to resort to an asian it’s because you’re bottom barrel and nobody else wanted you

                Truer word cannot be said, I'm glad the japanese are wising up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is literally Osaka castle, which is something that still exists.
                >They literally don't film Japan LOL
                The Osaka castle shown in the show isn't the same one standing today. It was burned down IRL during a siege in 1615 by Tokugawa against the Toyotomi occupants. It was rebuilt following the siege.
                It's a different castle.
                >The original castle was unfortunately attacked again and finally destroyed by the forces of Tokugawa Ieyasu in 1615 during the second siege of Osaka Castle. This brought about the end of the powerful Toyotomi clan and led to the undisputed power of the Tokugawa Shogunate, which would rule Japan for the next 250 years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The Osaka castle shown in the show isn't the same one standing today. It was burned down IRL during a siege in 1615 by Tokugawa against the Toyotomi occupants. It was rebuilt following the siege.
                >It's a different castle.
                And? Show the part where pre-1615 Osaka's hall doesn't have a roof LOL.

                That goes against basic logic.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's about as disrespectful as Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.

              >Even if it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, wouldn't it be more disrespectful to make revered figures like Tokugawa, Nobunaga, etc. into overly sexualized underage girls?
              Nope, shit's cool as frick.
              >Rather than Shogun who just took inspiration from real historical accounts and still made sure everything depicted accurately like the dynamics between the Lords and retainers, womens' role, etc.
              Shogun tries to pretend it's real when it's not, it doesn't even try to portrait the feeling accurately, it's literally whitoid fantasy about Japan.

              >Nope, shit's could as frick.
              Exactly

              • 3 weeks ago
                my mom

                nobody took offense to alvh

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >humiliating and embarrassing moments.
          It's humanizing. Also it's done by the 11s themselves, not gajin scum

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It also doesn't have disgusting WMAF shit too.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >disgusting WMAF
              Kek look at this seething ricecel

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love Asian women but go frick yourself. Stop racemixing at an industrial fricking scale. Why can't people just stay in their own fricking country.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao seethe /misc/vel
                It's a globechad's world.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but the image is an old fake, the actual guy's Polish

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's at least comforting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ancestors are crying.
                Race traitor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The real life Addams marries some merchant's daughter, not some princess
        There is no princess in Shogun. Mariko is not a princess you moron.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Show name?

      Oda Nobunaga no Yabou is the game series.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The japanese equivalence to Shogun is Isaac, and it's actually much more authentic to european history.

    Again, asians still respect white pipo when they don't get the same respect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      From what I quickly looked at it, it's pretty ridiculous

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aside from the McGuffin tanegashima gun, it has more accurate siege warfare than anything in Hollywood slop.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair this manga isn't advertised world wide like Hollywood product Shogun.
      It's just Japan makes manga only for Japanese target.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point of comparison between a drama with a massive budget and advertising investment, currently the most viewed worldwide,
      and a small manga with low recognition even within manga fan base in Jap?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The point is the japanese always do it with respect, something the westoids never have for Japan.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We've been over this. You think you do it with respect because you don't have a western eye, either that or you're a dick riding weeb. In reality it misses the mark just as much. The difference is we don't care.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just saying facts, sorry.

            Japan is an entire nation of cucks though, just contentedly sucking American daddies wiener. Lost the war, got bombed, surrendered to America, became occupied, is filled with American military bases, can’t have own army because America says so. How. Embarrassing. Imagine losing this much to the white man. Lol.

            Nice demoralisation post, Mr. Cohen.

            Don't make me drop the third bomb by squeezing the mere atoms that make up your frame Takeshi-san.

            Do it homosexual, you don't have the guts.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Demoralizing to who?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > Nice demoralisation post, Mr. Cohen
              Point out the factual inaccuracies, I’ll wait.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just saying facts, sorry.
            [...]
            Nice demoralisation post, Mr. Cohen.
            [...]
            Do it homosexual, you don't have the guts.

            You aren't thinking about what I'm saying at all.
            You are taking a western show made for western audiences and judging it with Japanese standards, and comparing it to a Japanese manga made for Japanese audiences and again judging it with Japanese standards. Of course the Japanese manga wins. Of course you can't see what's wrong with the Japanese manga from a western perspective, anymore than westerners can see what's wrong with their show. No one is trying to insult your culture.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >There are only exchanges of racial insults rather than constructive discussions
              >Even though it's about Japan, true Japanese never participate.

              Why things go like this always?

              You guys are all shit no1 cares about enthusiasts tbh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This comment has no respect for the English language

              • 3 weeks ago
                my mom

                and that's a good thing

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One of the things I like about Shogun is that they use different names from the real life people, so it can be as fictional as they want, and they are making it clear that it is fiction despite being based on historical events. This is by far preferable to having real figures like Queen Cleopatra or Victoria being portrayed as black.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Foreigners like to create and film fantasies like this.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyway, thread is clearly over.

    The japanese have put it to the words, Hollywood has failed.

    I wish Hiroyuki Sanada luck in the next project.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you honoraburu Jap-san for showing us what no westerner could see before, that Hollywood is bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shogun is historically accurate and any naysayers are below 5"0. Every episode directly alters the timeline in the way Shogun intended. Please support the official release.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Every episode directly alters the timeline in the way Shogun intended.
        Sorry for ruining your WMAF fantasy, Mr. Cohen, but it's not happening.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't make me drop the third bomb by squeezing the mere atoms that make up your frame Takeshi-san.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/dDNPJZo.png

      Doesn't film Osaka castle's hall properly, lacking even the roof.
      Having vassals and samurai openly commit drawing sword and even seppuku inside a lord's castle
      Important meetings happen in some frickwit fishing village
      https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f26388797d88f6c15c2e3c18e4b281ccdc647933

      Shogun is exposed!!!! Just a piece of history by foreigners.

      Sanada should be ashamed. Hollywood is evil and is still trying to make japanese look like uncivilized barbarians.

      Just another example of jap "nobody understands me" resentment

      are there really people who think this show is even remotely historically accurate?

      If you read the Japanese comments on that article they generally all say "eh close enough"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some japanese comments are clearly phoned in CIA shit, true japanese are like this dude.

        >I’ll kill myself and makes me the winner
        Where have I heard this before?

        Not how it works in the Sengoku period.

        That's a western stereotype.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    remember everyone, truth is the most valuable commodity among the Japanese.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good thread.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And why do you post this picture in particular?

      I never get it until I realize this is heightism, european believe taller = superior.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Emperor Hirohito banned that picture because it infringed the divinity of the emperor via heightism, Macarther forced the Japanese government to distribute the pictures anyway. The Japanese do care about how height affects your image. You're clearly not upto date on authentic japanese history, gweilo moron.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shogun is based on a real life English man who became a Samurai named William Adams. He was in charge of Tokugawa's navy. Japanese people still celebrate him with shrines, museums and statues today.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if they didn't show white guy and asian girl sex scene, it would be true kino

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wdym that was hot as frick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Demoralizing to who?

        Why would I ever give modern western women even one second of my attention?

        Here is the modern real life shogun fans who sit in front of the tv saying based!!!!! Literally me!!! While their son cries about being a manlet incel in the background

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Silicone breasts and plastic face. Their entire culture is based around fakeness

          Keep going lol, I can almost hear you screeching through the screen

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are here on Cinemaphile posting that edited image with the same file name nearly every day according the archives

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are here on Cinemaphile posting that edited image with the same file name nearly every day according the archives

          They look happy, I wish I was as happy as them

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >happy couple with a child
          Better than my current prospects.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you don't need sex scene for the storytelling

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >series adapted from some sloppy fetishistic pseudo-historical novel written by an Aussie
    >adapted by the channel with aggressively mediocre tv shows
    >is historically inaccurate and mediocre
    Wattu surpriseru

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FX's biggest mistake is watering down their shows with endless seasons that go nowhere. They should do more of these limited series.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There are only exchanges of racial insults rather than constructive discussions
    >Even though it's about Japan, true Japanese never participate.

    Why things go like this always?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trve japanese are too shy to speak about this, I will speak for them.

      t. patriotic vietman

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stfu you just want the bwc to yourself.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pathetico.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ベトナムラングール

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f26388797d88f6c15c2e3c18e4b281ccdc647933

    Can't read the article.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here: https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c3f04de19077ad5b6e90def15e482ed37df671af

      [...]
      [...]
      [...]
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(pilot)
      It really happened, deal with it.

      Show the part where William Adams fricks his way through the Shogun's daughters.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's had sex with Mariko in dark and a prostitute offscreen.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's the fictional part, but now millions of the world see it and believe muh whitoid sex life in Japan.

          This is the devious idea behind this show.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            William Adams famously fricked his way through Japan. He could have married a noble but he married a non-noble woman for love.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, he didn't.

              Dear Asians of every variety: I will not apologize for my culture dominating yours

              He says while shitposting in a japanese-owned board.

              We give you this shit, and this is how you repay us?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We give you this shit, and this is how you repay us?
                Yes. You want me to repay you by apologizing for being awesome? How about frick you and die.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Karma will get you, b***h.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm white and I didn't have enough time for all the women I could have fricked while I was there. All relationship quality women too. I want to go back.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You’re actually gay if you’re attracted to that shit. Racemixers always like that they look male.
              Asian women don’t have small waists or big hips, they’re straight like a board. Flat chest, flat pan face.
              asiatic women tend to look child like or boyish because their bodies seemingly doesn't mature. Pedos and closeted gays are always with them

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                John Lennon was a satanic lil shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yoko had a hank hill ass.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol keep crying. The most voluptuous woman I fricked was from Japan

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                youve never even kissed a woman you permavirgin

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Silicone breasts and plastic face. Their entire culture is based around fakeness

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Japanese women are perfect looksmatched partners for chud looking dudes, is what I take away from this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's yoko ono, it's like grading all white women based on amy schumer

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This show is no different than showing a white woman kissing a black. It was made to help racemixers cope and encourage mixing.
            When in reality if you have to resort to an asian it’s because you’re bottom barrel and nobody else wanted you

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why would I ever give modern western women even one second of my attention?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I must say, between ~~*MindGeek*~~ and ~~*Match Group*~~, ~~*they*~~ have really done a number on whites' capacity to mate.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm only watching it for the beautiful women. The show is boring as frick otherwise. I just like to dream of the women I saw when I was in Japan.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MY EMPEROR

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have terminal yellow fever and this show is killing me.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its a fantasification of the sengoku period and the 'real' happenings. there is no historical value in this version, it even looks as fake as possible, costumes, color grading, lenses and the acting feel extremely fake. theres no reason to be upset about accuracy when its clearly not trying to be realistic at all. i remember a tidbit from the 80a version where people were laughing at how mifune was talking when he himself told them that it would be more time appropriate pronounciation and wording.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well they were.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is not historically accurate, why can't Eastern artists respect our culture like we do with theirs like in Kung Fu Panda 4?

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dear Asians of every variety: I will not apologize for my culture dominating yours

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't even watch blue eyed samurai because of the way they depicted Japanese society. It's just so obvious when the creator can't even imagine people having a different mindset to theirs.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weebs riled up that they learned a shitty language for nothing

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Toshi Kohara
    A fraud.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More real than you.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Either way, Shogun is the best tv show Hollywood has made in the last 10 years.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The nonstop WMAF is the most realistic part of the show lmao, asiatics all crave the BWC

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's the first time I've genuinely laughed in a very long time

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >toyota clan

    Try at least being original when you make up bullshit

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honest feel bad for them.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2024

    Whites are happy that they get to marry a used up bawdtiest asian prostitute

    you guys are like nice guys, funny to see

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      loose implies the japanese men are even fricking them. You need to coax them with bug pheromones to get them to do that.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Must've been great being Japanese since lots of people online would jump in any internet argument to defend Japan's honor.
    Just sit back and watch those incel morons throwing shit at each other, and laugh whenever China or Korea get shat on.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really like many Japanese things, but I'll never get why so many people do that. It's not a perfect country. It has pros and cons just like every other place. Most people there will probably find you a bit weird too if they saw somebody passionately defend a place that you've probably only been to for a week on a holiday.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a whole week
        Very generous. Most weebs would get stopped for cp, wait.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you've probably only been to for a week on a holiday.
          Worse, these morons romanticize a country they've never been to because they create their shitty anime. They really think that Japan is just like anime.

          The Japan they know is basically just Shibuya scramble, konbinis and Donki's snack section too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you've probably only been to for a week on a holiday.
        Worse, these morons romanticize a country they've never been to because they create their shitty anime. They really think that Japan is just like anime.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got a buddy that has massive yellow fever and I just don't get it, he goes crazy for busted up japanese girls that most would rate a flat 4/10

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All I know there are painfully good looking women like this in China and the Chinese consider them substandard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is one ugly b***h.

      Wtf, whitoid really do lust over the racist carricatures, do they?

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This must be the jap version of crackas kissing blm Black person shoes.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this ricecel seething because there's wmaf in the show
    >pretending like anyone thinks shogun is supposed to be historically accurate

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >uhh nooo weeaboo bad
    Weeaboo board, tourists please leave.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weebro can you point out the post that went too far?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, officer, this right here

        >you've probably only been to for a week on a holiday.
        Worse, these morons romanticize a country they've never been to because they create their shitty anime. They really think that Japan is just like anime.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But he's right

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, he isn't.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But he is though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >noooo preasy dontu diss japanese kultre

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weebs are fricking moronic. Anime isn't real you moron.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >aw ye how u rike my big brakku dik in yir wimin ryboi, u a bean ellased

    >noooooooooooo u canna show wmaf unna any culcumstancee

    you asian dudes are pathetic hypocrites, spamming this site with Black person dicks only to turn around and cry when it happens to your women

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >asian shilling cuckold porn
      I never did any of this.

      I literally dindu nuffin.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese still suffer from the propaganda blitz they got fed about honorable samurai during ww2

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nitpicky as frick. Now ask him to critique every tiny little thing on nhk dramas which make similar mistakes.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Japanes "honor" is just them getting pegged by their daddy America
    Who cares?

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew it. Even though they got the Japanese lady to say it was historically accurate in the trailer I was like: "There no fricking way."

    The book was probably written by a white guy, too

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up b***h

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shouldn't SEAgays be shitting up dota games right now instead of Cinemaphile?

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Uhm akshually their samurai preferred to be on top pegging little boys which the show failed to demonstrate. Please practice more historical authenticity.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What would an authentic japanese man do here? (According to historians)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ゼール グーレイト!

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's Plinivs.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post new bread before I sudoku myself

  72. 3 weeks ago
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  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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