Silence (2016)

>evropean catholics make it their life goal to spread the one true religion to the furthest reaches of the earth
>they crucify them and go back to worshipping statues of a fat guy
What reason did they have to do this?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Inferiority complex

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Europeans themselves did this to early christian priests. It takes a powerful local or neighboring ruler converting for christianity to take root.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh Japs in recent decades seem very positive about Christianity and like they truly understand how conducive it was to having a peaceful, virtuous life. Many Japs also joined Christianity (much bigger estimated number than what is known)

    It's israelites who censored all those religious symbols in all the retro games and who still seethe about Christianity today

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i figured the use of not-christianity in retro games in japan was them not wanting to piss off christians. Zelda: A link to the past, had a full on christian church with a cross that you see at the start of the game IIRC

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Miyamoto designed Link as explicitly Christian but the israelites in America made him change it. True story, actually.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          source? I'd like to read more.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://zelda-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Christianity

            https://morethanentertained.com/f/christian-origins-of-the-legends-of-zelda

            First two results with google but there are endless. The original concept art had Link praying in churches to figures of Jesus. Also, the Gorons were muslim before that was also censored. Not joking. They used muslim chants in their temple.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Jesus exists in fantasy Hyrule
          Honestly, Americans made the right call here, Christian Link would look moronic in a fictional world of magic and elves and shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i figured the use of not-christianity in retro games in japan was them not wanting to piss off christians.
        No it was them not wanting to piss off israelites, the people who actually control the media and clearly hate Christianity

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japan just sees Christianity as exotic like the west does with Greco-Roman mythology.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        I've played so many Japanese games & there's a reference to the Tower of Babel.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >exotic
        Not much exotic about a peaceful, comfy village having a church. It's just somthing that seems to go along nicely and Japs know

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're trying for a generally European-style village there. It means about as much as seeing a temple in God of War.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thats equivalent to European fiction about ancient peasants talking about the Spring Goddess and generic stuff like that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Introducing christianity to Japan will destroy it. Every new church over there emphasizes the hypergay "OMG LOVE AND TOLERANCE" stuff and does shit like japanese courses and services for (illegal) refugees. Literal subversives.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone dies for something. Most of us here will be for very small cheap petty things. So why not something more grand with strong institutional backing?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gadaffi was a kufir and a moron for thinking that you could united the most ethnically deverse, religiously diverse place on earth

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This movie makes Japanese look like monsters. It must be greatly exaggerated

    They also picked Liam Neeson for this role who has a face you can't mistrust. I doubt many Christians who tried to convert Japan looked like him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rape of Nanking anon, Japs are monsters

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The japanese saying is born shinto, marry as a christian, die as a buddhist. So the christians kinda won, japanese get married in churches, and can get burried in western christian styled cemetaries.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Christmas is big in Japan too.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Christmas is very different in Japan.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Christmas is their third and actual Valentine's Day.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's completely secular. It's not like you will find nativity scenes or any references to Jesus.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think that's only because they're suckers for Western Culture so much. XVII century Japan would never.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      16th century missionaries would likely take that as a victory and write to their superiors that their conversion efforts are finding great success

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >/rabian Mvslims make it their life goal to spread the one true religion to the furthest reaches of Evrope
    >they fight them and go back to worshipping statues of a israelite on a stick
    What reason did they have to do this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hello rabbi

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Could have something to do with the banditry, piracy, rape, enslavement, etc.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just like christians

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh if a jap was trying to convert people in Western Europe at that time he would probably get broken on the wheel. Also, Jesuits were known for doing a lot more than just converting, they always meddled with politics. Jesuits were even banned in catholic countries on Europe.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The jesuits were the real mvps of catholic history after the protestant reformation and got raped hard because of bad catholic rulers wanting profit over the proper spreading of the Faith

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Japanese kinda take a warts & all approach to Abrahamism.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They treat it like a magic system.
        That is why they love to play around with Gnosticism and Kabbalistic magic. Or why War Priests, Alexander Anderson or Wolfwood for example, are popular.
        Because they're interested in the cool aesthetics more than anything else.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They saw how Christianity was used as an entry point for colonialism in other countries like China and shut that shit down as fast as possible.

    And to be fair to them, it worked. In the early 20th century Japan were the only Asian country to have their shit together.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You’re an absolute Black person if you think Christianity was the thing keeping China from getting its shit together.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not what I said.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Faith. It's made pretty clear.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >evropean catholics make it their life goal to spread the one true religion to the furthest reaches of the earth
    1.they do it in a very crude and utterly moronic manner without consideration for the specific conditions of Japan, strangely so since they had already encountered Buddhists and other religions in other parts of the world as well as rulers and their reactions to Christianity.
    2.they end up creating enmity between the Japanese rulers and the Christians they created
    3. Instead of using their heads and being even more properly Christian, as in acting wisely, they ended up getting Japanese people killed and created a ban on Christianity. Those catholics that spread Christianity in Japan were the stupidest "representatives" of Christianity ever.
    4. Those low IQ "representatives" of Christianity managed to get Christianity banned and people killed (and going underground) instead of creating a foundation for Christianity that would have been substantial and beneficial for the Japanese spiritually and in other ways. It would have become integrated with Shinto and Buddhism etc traditions of Japan.
    >worshipping statues of a fat guy
    Buddhism, you know nothing of it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese Buddhism was very different from elsewhere.
      Japan under the Tokugawa was basically a Confucian North Korea with Buddhist and folk religion influences, instead of being anything sane. The Meiji Emperor put in a lot of effort to break that down, later.
      While the Jesuits were going to be familiar with Confucianism, the specific Japanese arrangement of everything was fairly unique.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >evropean catholics make it their life goal to spread the one true religion
    no, they used it as a vehicle for political and financial power. Few were honest, many were not.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Confess My Child~

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >crucifying your own countrymen because they have a different belief
    religion is moronic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, atheists would NEEEVERRRR do something like that!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the case of Japan, it was less the religious aspect and more the political problem. Christians were allies of the Portuguese, ergo non-Christian Daimyos had reason to see them as a dangerous rival faction which could act against them.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    catholics
    You mean the jesuits? The harbingers of doom and ruiners of civilization? Those guys?

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