this shit any good?
i am seeing a lot of red flags
>woman front and center
>two jiggaboos and another woman
>one white guy and hes obviously the bad guy
Apple TV has some bangers tbqhwy.
For All Mankind
Mythic Quest isn't terrible, and the first season of Ted Lasso is really good. Which is funny because the next two seasons prove that was completely by accident and they have no idea what they're doing
For All Mankind is mainly soap opera slop with nuclear rockets as bait.
Severance was very good, hope they don't shit the bed next season.
>For All Mankind is mainly soap opera slop with nuclear rockets as bait.
It hits harder if you're a mid century/space history nerd. They really did their research, up until the third season where things get silly.
Ted Lasso is the real amazing thing for me. That first season, under all the "aw shucks" saccarine sweetness, is a really well written drama. All the characters have good through lines, they're each compelling in some way and they've all got huge problems and understandable goals, and it all threads together and resolves just about perfectly. And then the next two seasons are unwatchable slop for retards, just actually unwatchable if you've got more than two brain cells. I thought maybe the original writers had been kicked out and replaced with retards but it's all the same guys. They just either forgot how to write or the whole first season was completely by accident. I still think about it.
fuckin "jiggaboo"? lol who the fuck says "jiggaboo"
I say roodypoo
I call them “moon crickets”
its actually pretty good
The mystery seems very surface level and kind of lazy, however I am biased because I just finished the 9D-chess masterpiece that is Dark. However there is no other slop to watch so I am sticking with it. Also the most recent episode I pirated was purple-tinted for no reason and it looked kind of kino.
>However there is no other slop to watch
Same (low) budget, the world is low tech, actors are also good.
silo is not low budget, not at all
costumes, world, effects are all decent / good
I think that happens when you grab a 2160 and your system cant play it. Or some other thing like that. I've had it happen.
the solution is to stream it through plex or jellyfin onto a firestick
>The mystery seems very surface level and kind of lazy
The mystery being obvious is likely intentional and distracts you from the truth. I'm nearly positive this show is a double twist.
My issue with the mystery is less what is happening outside, but what is happening withing with the Judiciary. Because I don't see a scenario where they aren't just retarded villains being evil for evils sake.
>They wanna breed le sheeple by not letting the people who engage in JAQing reproduce
Retarded plan that is biologically bullshit.
>They want to take over because... because they just do okay?!
The first 3 episodes perfectly established how low stakes the entire Silo society is. Its basically a village. Judiciary already has more than enough control and while petty Eastern European 19th century novel petty bullshit like killing off your beloved mayor to stick in your dude as a sheriff is kind of a kino plot, its way too low stakes for the overarching mystery.
>They hide the green because outside is poisonous
This just makes them look like a wide array of retarded 2000's era movie villains who all have good intentions but are fucking idiotic about explaining them and end up doing evil because they can't communicate properly.
You are just making baseless assumptions though. You don't know what the plot is and are just assuming it is something you think is bad.
True, to an extent you are correct, however I try to base my guesses on my innate ability to predict what kind of twists and turns shows are going to throw at you (a career that I proudly started by predicting who will end up as king in GoT). The wast majority of times I am correct. And as it stands now, to me the Judiciary screams of a poorly implemented villain. The only way their plot can go is either them being a nothingburger villain that does a lot of petty shit because they are poorly written, or some mega-twist superpower that retcons the entire plot of earlier episodes. The later one is becoming increasingly more probable as by now we can presume that the flowers are intended to hide from 1984 type of panopticon observation through the mirror, and unless the Judiciary managed to keep it secret that they are running such a program for 140 years, my best guess would be that the Silo is monitored from afar as a social experiment, with the chief justice being experimenters inside (wo)man. The issue? That this is Mazerunner-tier of YA post-apocalypse bullshit story if it is true.
>proudly started by predicting who will end up as king in GoT
Are you old enough to be here?
>Judiciary already has more than enough control
I agree it isnt exactly good TV, this is perfectly fine for motivation.
The one thing about getting power is you want to keep it, and you want to expand it.
That's my assumption. Who ever runs judiciary (overall, across all potential silos, that door leads somewhere, most likely another facility) is happy playing overlord, but it's so thinly veiled evil that I just don't like it. Why be so blatant? Play it slower with the murders and getting your people in position. Will it be the fallout situation where large swaths of vault tech were instrumental in the apocalypse?
I have doubts that it's a toxin as well. If it was a toxin then it would have seeped in along the walls of the lower chamber already, and I'm assuming that's ground water down there, so it too should be toxic/irradiated etc. If it's an inside job sabotaging the suits then I wonder how they've maintained that control for 140 years, the way that every dies within sight-lines of the camera is suspicious (they also don't seem to rot or get moved by the wind/rain etc). They could all effectively have some kind of kill switch (like the "birth control") in them and after certain distance it goes off, e it automatic, leave designated zone, die. Or someone high up. This also causes an issue with the lower chamber, if it's automatic then it only triggers when Z axis is +1 or what ever is used to determine the surface.
They also revealed their cards in ep 2 a little to much? He thinks the display is fake, but once out there his display has a fake green overlay that doesn't just add in his wife's body, so to find it he has to take his helmet off.
Is that ground water a long way down? Is the top of the silo up a mountain?
Who knows. I don't think it's all that deep either. Even at a generous 10m per floor it would only be 1500m deep, that alone would still be ground water, but also kinda warm.
better question is why are there no elevators of some kind ?
and if not planned by the original builders - why has there not been an elevator built afterwards by the inhabitants ?
Energy, maintenance? These fucks didn't shut down for repairs in 140 years (honestly sounds bullshit, none of it rusted, fused, shattered or wore down in presumably 100% uptime?). I can't see them digging another hole, building (from scratch) an elevator and keeping it operable. Also the elevator would become a privilege thing, not everyone would get access. And as is the powers that be wouldn't want it because the stairs have a good defensive position for those upper and it's good for classism/control.
>better question is why are there no elevators of some kind ?
To prevent revolution? Without elevators people move slowly and don't mix easily.
Also floors are easier to defend.
I would guess Judicial could have something like an elevator.
> Is the top of the silo up a mountain?
>Who knows. I don't think it's all that deep either. Even at a generous 10m per floor it would only be 1500m deep, that alone would still be ground water, but also kinda warm.
I think they give the length of the silo in one episode and it is about 1.8 kilometres from top to bottom. The exit tunnel seems to be somewhere around 100 meters.
>9D-chess masterpiece that is Dark.
2deep4me I guess
>Also the most recent episode I pirated was purple-tinted for no reason and it looked kind of kino.
Was probably a HDR rip, if you don't have display that supports it, it looks like that.
>I just finished the 9D-chess masterpiece that is Dark
It's not a 9D-chess masterpiece. It's actually really fucking stupid. Every single episode except the last episode is just showing the ridiculous path the characters take through the time periods and alternative realities. Absolutely none of this is actually moving the story forward to a resolution. Then at the very last episode they resolve everything with a McGuffin that could have occurred at any time. Which it did occur at any time because time has no relevance as it is a loop. The whole show was pointless.
>Every single episode except the last episode is just showing the ridiculous path the characters take through the time periods and alternative realities.
You say that as if from moment one you knew how the entire loop looks like. That was the entire beauty of the show - seeing how everything is connected in one of the only examples of plothole-less timetravel. Literally the only issue was the ending mcguffin, which could have been written in better, but which still gave the show a great ending over all.
I screwed up by having an expectation of there being a purpose to the things that were happening. I didn't care about any of the characters so when it ended I felt like I had been ripped off. I hadn't learned anything interesting and it didn't seem like anything the characters did actually mattered.
But do things need to have a purpose to the overarching plot? In the end, the charm of the show, at least to me, was to see the lives of the characters, who actually were incredibly human in their behavior. To see their emotions, their goals, their shifting perspectives, what they value, love hate, how they see each other and themselves. Ultimately, the actions of every single character were of immense purpose, as it was those actions that each time shaped that horrific loop into existence without anyone's prior knowledge of it. In many ways it captures not just a fantastical time travel, but the history of humanity, how people, with only their best guesses, shaped the world in ways they would never have wanted it to be shaped, or the fundamental reality that we are all stuck in the grasp of the legacies inherited from dead generations.
>see the lives of the characters
It's just me personally. Characters are my least favorite part of any story. I don't give a fuck about characters, who they are and what they want. Humans are stupid and their motivations are dumb. I want to see some cool technology and / or science fiction stuff with as in-depth of an explanation of it as possible.
Okay then, here is my headcannon re-write of the last episode of Dark that gives a way way more scientifically satisfying answer as to how the loop was broken.
>Claudia always talks about changing a single grain of sand
>Its kind of implied to be a bullshit line designed to motivate Jonas forward
>In this rewrite, she is telling the truth
>Having killed the alt-Claudia, taken the blueprints and figuring out the reality of the loop, Claudia realizes she can change one small grain of sand
>She modifies the blueprints before passing them on to the clockmaker
>The modification is simple - each time the time machine is used during the Apocalypse, a single particle of dark matter is displaced
>As Adam explains it, the Apocalypse operation to murder alt-Unknown before he is born requires the energy of both worlds, that energy
>However, each cycle Claudia modifies the blueprints and annihilates a single particle, thus eventually making it so the operation can not succeed
>Thus, the loop is both unalterable, and predestined to be broken. Each time Claudia goes through her journey hoping it will be the last - that enough matter will be displaced to close it
>We see this in the final episode. We even see Adam succeed many a time in a pseudo-montage, until finally, during one attempt, the Apocalypse fails to happen and alt-Martha lives, the loop as it is known is broken forever
>Claudia appears and explains everything to shocked Adam, and the ending pretty much happens as it did in the actual show, with maybe the exception of Adam saving alt-Jonas because it would be more poetic if it were both alt-Jonas and alt-Martha (two cast-offs that only functioned as lambs for the slaughter during the original loop) saving the Tanhaus family.
>real things are boring
>give me made up fantasy with a techno-coating
It's a fair position to take.
>9D-chess masterpiece that is Dark
This isn't China, gramps. I won't get stoned for being a feminine man who sings Modern Major General and When I Was A Lad I Served A Term by heart.
Dark is dogshit brother
you watched the whole episode like that?
lol based retard. your display doesn't support that HDR mode.
Dark was checkers, not chess.
It happens because its HDR/DV, you should use a player that properly plays HDR/DV when using a SDR screen.
Use MPV with vo=gpu-next.
>purple-tinted for no reason
the reason is you downloaded a dolby vision release and your hardware / software can't render it properly
Worldbuilding seems really, really poor.
>You can't have any relics from the before time, absolutely no oral traditions were passed down at all in between communities or families.
>There's some conspiracy since the rebellion that happened 140 years ago, that was passed down though.
>The entire lifeblood of the silo depends on a fairly isolated and uncared for group of sweaty grease monkeys and the only human being in the entire silo capable of entering the hatch to fix the generator is an insufferable bitch who shows up two hours late to an emergency, punches the guy who was going to go in her stead because MUH RULES when she isn't even the lead of mechanical and then pouts like a child when told she's going to get punished when she doesn't even apologize to the poor dude
>that entire repair sequence
>that entire repair sequence
That was some funny shit.
>let us close this hatch so steam doesnt come through
>oh no, the hatch it getting red hot!
>let's blast it with water, that wont cause any steam on this side, no sir
>that entire repair sequence
the whole time i was thinking why don't they just unbolt the blade on the other side as well, that way the turbine is balanced, its not like you would lose much output there are hundreds of blades
>hammering a precision turbine blade with back into shape with fucking hammers and angle grinders
it is those tv shows that are better watched all at once, one episode per week this show can't stand is not good enough to keep interest and unfortunately all tv shows have to have gay romance
its good. try it.
Boring characters and plodding plot, plus her tits are never on display.
It's pretty engaging so far but it will all depend on how well the "mystery" aspect is put together and resolved.
I'm not a fan of the whole "cliffhanger every episode" shit though. Not every episode needs to end on one.
this fallout ripoff is ok for being produced by an empire in sharp decline. its watchable.
And I'm out
Retarded post in more ways than one.
In what world is Rashida Jones white?
her mom was hot in twin peaks
Rashida jones is white passing so it's all the same.
your post is retarded because you're dumb if you think the same thing is not going to happen to rebecca as well
why do you think that retard common is there?
Mummy is sweaty in silo. Baby needs to clean mummy.Baby thirsty for mummysweat.Baby wants to clean now.
i cant get over her accent changing every five seconds
Calm down rajesh.
Yeah that first scene where she was all sweaty was pretty good
mmm aspie engine girl
We need more scene like this in the show or I riot
It's good, but I started reading the book right after the first two episodes, and the book moves much faster. They're really stretching things out in the show. It seems the rest of the season is basically one chapter in the book.
It's something to watch during the writer's trike.
That's about all I can say for it.
I put it on for my exercise time.
So which is it
>world is actually toxic and the lush green world is the fake image
>world isn't toxic and is the lush green world, but the cleaners are poisoned before leaving the silo
>something's implanted in the residents that keeps them alive as long as they're near or inside the silo(possibly has something to do with the incubators)
>nothing's toxic but after living this long in the silo no one can breathe clean air that isn't someone's recycled farts
The world is toxic, but the suits they're given are built to fail quickly. And the helmet has a display that shows the cleaner a green paradise instead a toxic wasteland.
what do you mean book spoiler, i got this from watching two episodes like you're supposed to. please tell me you naggers figured this out and are not thinking this is some larger mystery.
wat a tweest
air very thin at top of silo
no poison but cleaners die of asphyxiation
land is desolate but black guy was hallucinating due to lack of air
it's all nano machines. There is swarm of nanos outside the silo that turn it into a desolate poisoned wasteland. The cleaners are fed a fake image. The interracial couple are actually dead. Outside the swarm of nanos though, is actually a lush green world.
The problem is that if you know this you lose interest istantly
And with that my desire to watch this show evaporates
So all someone needs to do is: tunnel a long ass way, which they're apparently doing since they have mines. Or build an EMP, zap the fucks and leave.
is actually toxic and the lush green world is the fake image
This is the one I'm like 99% sure. The visors inside the suits to go outside also have this fake view too at least until you take the helmet off. They likely set it up this way to help Silo people feel better about living underground. Then over time everyone forgot or weren't certain that the outside was actually dead. Thus causing whatever riot they talk about 180 years ago.
>Forcefully diverse cast
No thanks bro
The only black guy is the villain henchman. Unless the justice is revealed to be a strong independent black woman.
There are 2 black men in that image alone, anon…
Its decent, but far from being the best thing from Apple tv that I watched.
The first episode turned me off as it's a liberal's wet dream.
But I'm still watching.
Tim Robbins so far is being woefully underused.
Rebecca Ferguson is playing her Dune's Jessica -- emotionally unstable and mental.
Will Patton is the only good part of the show.
its decent. doesnt look super cheap like most other tv scifi shows
I tried slogging through this but ep4 was supremely boring
Cinemaphile complained about ep.3 being filler-ish, but for me it was 4. Like, plot-related things were still moving forward, just...not very much?
The three first episodes were pretty good
The fourth one was a little weaker
There's an american acultural feel to the show, like so many other american shows, but in this case it makes sense, since it's about a society that completely forgot about its past.
Plus, my wife, Rebecca Ferguson is in it, and she's a qt.
So, I'll continue watching it.
there's something so sexy about her bros, not in the traditional way just something about her look tells you she's a total freak in bed.
good show btw
I'd do the sex with her.
>frail woman doing heavy physical work instead of the muscular men who are very apparent on the poster
yeah this looks pozzed shit, avoiding
It's the usual MEN BAD WOMEN GOOD pozzedslop.
So of course they'll change the villain from a democratic senator to a republican one right?
Bookfags who drop spoilers every chance they get: fuck you
You are the reason we can't have good things here.
we're using spoiler tags, stop being a bitch about it
it'd be a better twist if they just put poison in the suits so even if the world is fine they'll still drop dead.
I mean, its not like in early human history the leaders of civilizations became god-kings, so what interest would the Judiciary have in bringing humanity forward?
Anyway, one schizo theory that I do have is that Judiciary secretly wants to open the doors as that would explain their meltdown over the Sheriff post - if they could get their man in the role, they could get access to guns and actually do whatever they want for the most part.
>if they could get their man in the role, they could get access to guns and actually do whatever they want for the most part.
don't they already kind of do that? I thought the judicial enforcers also had guns
Judicial is way too unexplained at this moment in time. Because I don't even get what is their purpose. The deputies are the police, they execute cleanings and they keep the peace. If the show was re-imagined as a sort of The Village 2004 setting, it would be like the deputies are your meemah and pep-pep local cops, but then there is also a super secretive MIB compound in the village for no reason who don't seem to do anything but be slightly threatening.
Judicial is CIA, do whatever they need to do to keep the peace. Deputies are just the run of the mill peace keepers, basic security, crowd control, etc.
I'm gonna assume it's the standard woke crap until I hear differently.
pozzed garbage, threads full of shills
if youre not some retard from /misc/ and value an interesting mystery / worldbuilding youll like it. starts off fast.
>starts off fast
and then slows to a crawl
>>they guy who wrote the book is a hack
>>the people who made this are hacks
that's why ridley scott bounced
are the books any good? because the show is just one trope after another and the outline of the books reads like a generic video game setting.
just play Fallout
>population is at least 60% black or black mixed
They wouldn't have lasted more than a couple of years. Immersion ruined.
> people who aren't used to living in non-cushy conditions die instantly
YUP YUP YUP
Ep 1 & 2 were good. 3 was terrible. 4 was okay. Just think they can't handle 'action'. Looked like they tried to spice up a happening and just completely fucked up.
The books are better. Especially book 2 (of 3) since it gives the background story to the silos, so season 2/3 should be better.
To follow up on this: the show is about 80% sticking to the books so far. They've made 'Judicial' a much bigger thing than in the books. The scary black guy character is kinda made up.
The reactor repair episode was basically 1 page in the book, so bit surprised they decided to vote that much screen time to it. I guess to build the main female character, which I can understand.
They are kinda slow-paced so far, so worried there will be an additional 2-3 filler episodes until the real stuff starts to happen.
Are there Juliet as a kid flashbacks in the books?
>based on a series of books
I guess that means I can never participate in threads for fear of spoilers. I liked it so far though, Ferguson is great as always, although you still notice her accent every couple of sentences.
I started reading the book series (called Wool, not Silo) ages ago and stopped after a short way because it was so boring.
I gave myself the head-cannon that they're secretly on Mars the whole time but don't want to let the cat out of the bag for some reason.
Yeah no thanks.
i don't even know what the show is about after 3 episodes.
WYPIPO BAD, same as every other show
Why do they keep making shows and casting them as they wish the world was instead of how it really is? Do the people who write these shows really thing there would be some female engineer who's fixing all the problems and blacks running the fucking complex society at the end of the fucking world?
>casting them as they wish the world was instead of how it really is
Leftism involves the rejection of reality in favor of an imagined, better, world.
This theme can be found in all strains of leftism all through the 20th century
>Show is set in a sci-fi dystopian future
>Show follows a fucking sheriff and is actually a procedural cop show with mysterbox bullshit
Why the fuck do they keep doing this
That's straight from the books. Look at the wiki page (it doesn't have any mystery spoilers). It's all interpersonal horseshit. They're hack novels written by a hack. A lot like Expanse.
I know right, fuck this.
Why can't we have a silo-set show that gives the same vibe as the future segments of 12 Monkeys
coz hollywood already did a show about 12 monkeys and it flopped.
read posts before answering you zoomer homosexual
>Show follows a fucking sheriff and is actually a procedural cop show
if that continues im out
Not to worry, there's a love interest for the main character lady, and that relationship takes up most of the rest of the book
main female character is biggest mary sue since rae. The only engineer that can do anything get shoehorned into being the head of police overnight. She can do no wrong
Literally from the book:
>Book 2 — Proper Gauge
>A new sheriff is needed to replace the recently-deceased Holston
>Mayor Jahns and Deputy Marnes embark on a trip to the Silo's lowest region to interview Juliette, their top candidate for sheriff.
>Juliette agrees to take the job on the condition that she is permitted to perform long-overdue mechanical maintenance which requires a power blackout
>Juliette completes the vital maintenance project on the Silo's primary generator
book or not its boss girl fantasy bullshit. Im beginning to believe this big mystery is something made everyone stupid but her
The author strikes me as a huge fag.
If you'd watched it they have reasons for why things are this way. She was meant to move from labor to overseer position anyway.
>She was meant to move from labor to overseer position anyway.
ie meant to do her job
>The only engineer that can do anything
All the others seem competent to me.
she can't seem to invent an elevator though
The 2 first episodes are absolute opium bait to lure you in and trap you into a boring show where nothing meaningful happens hoping that it will take off the next episode.
I just watched all the available episodes. Its good so far.
that picture is a little off-center
A few questions:
1. Why isn't there any additional bodies in site of the camera?
2. If the people who think the outside world is green and livable, why do they wear the spacesuit outside?
3. How does the silo have the resources to make and give these spacesuits to the people who leave for the outside?
4. If the world was really green and safe, wouldn't they have seen signs of animals through the video camera?
There were birds, weren't there?
Wasn't this idea stolen from a youtube short?
>Wasn't this idea stolen from a youtube short?
It was a popular idea during Cold War
There are two communist era works that are EXACTLY like Silo
Sex Mission a Polish SF comedy movie and City Above by Kir Bulychev
Sexmission even has the same gimmick of people being tricked that the surface area where they exit is a dead zone where they won't be able to survive
Do the nanites rule the above world, or are the nanites controlled by "IT", and they're just happy playing sim city(s) with multiple silos? Rather watch revolt 2.0 than the relationship drama, I'm interested in the product for the setting, not who will fuck who. And mystery pieces seem doled out slowly, two knew large pieces of the truth are dead in the first episode.
How old are you? I find it hard to believe anyone over the age of 16 can think humans living underground is an original idea.
this last episode sucked. im done. bookfags is this entire story just interpersonal stuff and the surface just a meme that goes nowhere?
Yes it's 90% interpersonal crap. As for the mystery of the surface, see pic related.
Common and his atrociously bad acting is the worst part of the show. all the naggers and whatnot hasn't really bothered me surprisingly. As racist as I am i can deal with a multicultural show if it makes sense within the structure of the plot. i just can't stand looking at ugly darkies in roles that it makes more sense for white to play
>dude snowpiercer and lost... but in a silo
>everyone is kind!
>everyone forgot all of history because people have no fucking concept of an oral history from.... 160 years ago??
i watched 2 episodes and gave up in the 2nd one
It's more likely they purged anyone with slight knowledge they didn't want.
Don't bother if you constantly see "red flags" everywhere.
They gassed two blacks in the first two episodes.
no, young adult tier surface level writing
bookfags spoil this shit for me please i cbf reading the books
The earth is fine, but dotted here and there with patches of Nanomachine Fog that eliminates all life. Each silo lies in the middle of one of these patches. Most of the books are about the interpersonal drama and romances of the sheriff lady
Why doesn't it seep down and kill the shit out of the silos?
They have sturdy wooden doors to keep out the gas
[/spoiler]does it ever go into why the silos are there and how/why the nanomachines came to be?[/spoiler]
I wish this show had more of an ensemble cast, gets a bit boring just following Juliette the entire time
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