Seriously. Only an absolute homosexual would reject a strong hapa who can help with your farm, make swords and knives, protect your home, do all the housework, and is very much in love with you.
>She's an awful human being
How so? She's definitely not a good person, but most of her actions are justified, and she helps when it doesn't fuck with her mission.
1600s Japan wasn't really a nice place for nice people
>can blatantly get away with anti-white propaganda
That's every show, it's so insidious people no longer notice it and scoff at it when it's pointed out.
It shouldn't surprise you that Michael Green, the main writer for this show, belongs to a certain tribe.
genuinely looks like a man. even moreso than typical irl androgynous actresses. they just put a man head on a female body and its just the western version of japan's "draw a girl call it a guy". if you find her hot you're probably bi or gay.
She has delicate jaws, a small chin, a slender nose, small lips.......honestly the most masculine things about her are her high forehead and thick eyebrows.
>canthal tilt
I had to look up what the fuck this was, apparently it's unironic incel jargon, but even without "oof yikes sweaty" shit this is fucking stupid to obsess over
its just a universally positive thing to have regardless of sex. like a decent jawline, or a nose that isn't too big. negative canthal tilt makes you look depressed or dopey, i should know.
She has delicate jaws, a small chin, a slender nose, small lips.......honestly the most masculine things about her are her high forehead and thick eyebrows.
Sure she can pass for male to the layman but the giveaways are obvious.
It’s a female version of Jin from Samurai Champloo, which I guess is a similar anime to this considering they have a similar premise and similar start to each show with a restaurant scene that turns into a fight
Also is it worth the slog to finish it? I’ve gotten through two episodes so far and it’s just ok. You can always tell what shows are actually produced by Netflix, and with a fucking Irish man being the main villain even though an Irish person wouldn’t step foot in Japan for centuries, it just doesn’t look like it’s worth my time
>Also is it worth the slog to finish it? I’ve gotten through two episodes so far and it’s just ok.
I enjoyed it but I also skipped the first 2 or 3 episodes on my first viewing.
I don't think I missed much.
>It’s a female version of Jin from Samurai Champloo
The first thing I thought after seeing the trailer thumb was that Watanabe finally got the funds for a second season of Samurai Champloo. Sadly is just an OK series that felt too inspired in Samurai Champloo. I mean, at least Watanabe knows that Jin should be ridiculed in order to make him likeable, Mizu is an unlikeable bitch.
Samurai Champloo is a revenge story too, there is a line where a revenge story is a miserable story or a cool story. Champloo balances the miserable/cool story with different episodes, mixing goofy ones with serious ones. BES tried too hard to be serious and all the goofy stuff is just the fat retard doing retarded things. Mizu is the embodiment of misery and that don't feel like a compelling main character.
She is... awful. I can confidently say, having watched the entire first season, that I hate her and hope she dies. This is our protagonist? She is an actual piece of shit.
She would stab everyone in the room, sabotage herself and then go mope about it on her way to stab someone else.
In her sad little worldview, nothing is ever her fault and so everything she does is completely justified. I cannot stomach her.
Like Mizu said, she isn't a Samurai. She's out for revenge, and revenge is ugly business.
Her revenge is a joke and makes no sense. >I will kill a bunch of possibly unrelated white people on the off-chance that one of them is the one who banged my mom, which I am assuming was nonconsensual because white people are bad even though you'd think I wouldn't have such a narrow-minded perspective having been the victim of that exact thing myself but oh well, STAB STAB STAB STAB and of course this completely justifies me killing any and every person who gets in my way between here and there, but can't you guys see how I'm the good guy in all this?
Trash.
The funny thing is that the way you laid it out here makes her seem like an actual samurai.
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IRL Samurais were absolute dicks drunk on their own power.
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>IRL Samurais were absolute dicks drunk on their own power.
Nah, there was a middle point. Of course there was bad samurais and good samurais. The whole idea of samurais killing all the peasants would started a revolt, because in small communities, the same samurais would be neighbors of merchants and farmers. Any daimyo would punish retarded violence in order to keep the peace. Real feudal japan wasn't like movies/mangas.
>can't you guys see how I'm the good guy in all this?
She is figuratively and literally portrayed as being a fucking demon. And by demon I mean a white fucking devil from the hell that is The West.
The entire capital city burns to the ground because she could not contain her white privilege, Mizu is a Snyderverse character.
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Sure, the characters in-universe recognize that she's a psychotic piece of shit willing to let an entire city burn for the sake of her nonsensical revenge, but she's portrayed to the audience as sympathetic and like we should see her as being mistreated by these other people.
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>but she's portrayed to the audience as sympathetic
But she is sympathetic, being sympathetic doesn't make her into a good person, just makes people understand the struggle that made her into the monster we're seeing
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I personally cannot sympathize with her because I do not believe in her cause nor do I believe her actions are justified. I am sorry that you are a psychopath and can sympathize with your fellow lunatic.
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>Gets treated like a demon her entire life >Act shocked when she finally fights back
She ran into a lot of horrible people. Those people got what they earned.
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you argue like a hysterical catlady holy shit
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Her motivations are a bastard thing. To both hate the fact that you were born while trying to find some meaning in that birth. Her hunt for the 4 devils isn't just revenge. It's her "ember." The one thing steering someone who's alone in the world.
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This, Princess Akemi make a better protagonist since her motivations are more clear and have a defined arc along Taigen. Even the fat fuck have a clear motivation.
>The women advanced towards Mizu >"His blue eyes are fascinating. Let's see if the demon lives up to legend and has true fire." >Mizu smiled, ever so slightly.
Sorry to break it to your horny fantasy brain but Mizu isn't gay, she's living as a man because women are forbidden from carrying swords.
Translation: she belongs in an alternate timeline where she gets a lot of blissful mindblowing sex.
>she belongs in an alternate timeline where she gets a lot of blissful mindblowing sex.
That's literally part of her backstory but her husband is a coward frightened by her murder boner.
She would stab everyone in the room, sabotage herself and then go mope about it on her way to stab someone else.
In her sad little worldview, nothing is ever her fault and so everything she does is completely justified. I cannot stomach her.
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Her revenge is a joke and makes no sense. >I will kill a bunch of possibly unrelated white people on the off-chance that one of them is the one who banged my mom, which I am assuming was nonconsensual because white people are bad even though you'd think I wouldn't have such a narrow-minded perspective having been the victim of that exact thing myself but oh well, STAB STAB STAB STAB and of course this completely justifies me killing any and every person who gets in my way between here and there, but can't you guys see how I'm the good guy in all this?
Trash.
>In her sad little worldview, nothing is ever her fault and so everything she does is completely justified. I cannot stomach her.
Based anon. My thoughts exactly. She's enitrely unlikeable.
>The women advanced towards Mizu >"His blue eyes are fascinating. Let's see if the demon lives up to legend and has true fire." >Mizu smiled, ever so slightly.
is funny how she get a lot of serious injuries and no one haves a consequence. Make her invencible or make her realistic but this kind of convenient injuries for the sake of dramatism is a bit dumb.
It’s just the standard anime/cartoon trope of people healing from what would be debilitating injuries quickly.
Like look at Taigen, guy spent how long being tortured and had fingernails ripped out and such but he’s fine fighting a bit later.
I suspect her ideal woman is an older, maternal beauty with gigantic milk-loaded breasts. Feminine and obedient. I.e her direct opposite with a bit of a Mommy complex mixed in.
But she'd want someone with refinement, unlike her drug-addict mother. So that means a wealthy widow with an interest in the exceptionally rare flower (i.e a blue-eyed demon).
A year ago if you told me there would be a well-animated samurai show starring a reverse trap and I would absolutely hate it I would... probably have been willing to hear you out, because we've had a string of stinkers.
Still, it's a hell of a thing that they mixed a bunch of things I love and managed to produce a turdburger.
what exactly is it you hate about it? i didn´t love it, but didn´t hate it. i was really not into it in the first episode, but it grew on me. watched it because a coworker insisted it was good. the apprentice was annoying, the hole princess storyline was kinda laughable, taigen was generally unlikeable/comic relief and somehow is still desireable for mizu and there were a lot of stupid moments in the action sequences. but it was alright.
I found her attractive. Thought her husband was big gay for reacting to her combat giddiness the way he did.
She reminds me of that plain Jane Chinese model that got so much hate a few years ago. It's not that she has a man jaw. She just has high cheekbones. It makes a woman look severe, but I like it.
i dont know. it certainly portrayed feudal japan as pathetic. i warned you about candles bro
but the constant referring to white people as ugly, even by fowler himself, reads differently. also fowlers statement about mizu burning the entire city to the ground, so she must be white. stuff like that reads like its 2023 and we are still hating white people because we are told to.
i doubt an irishman in that era would refer to himself as white or even british as well, especially one that lived through the famine.
>is Mizu hot?
Depends, how gay are you?
She's strong and would give me good sons. Her ex-husband was gay as fuck.
Concur. Strong woman and strong man = strong offspring.
>Her ex-husband was gay as fuck.
as expected of a brony
>Discover woman who can defend house & family while you're away for errands & work
>Throw tantrum
What an idiot.
Seriously. Only an absolute homosexual would reject a strong hapa who can help with your farm, make swords and knives, protect your home, do all the housework, and is very much in love with you.
She was probably ultra-fertile too.
>skinny, injured several times, tits suppressed the whole life
I doubt it.
She just needed to be fed well.
Peaches…
Do we get to see her pumpkin?
She ain’t fat enough tho
Imagine if Mizu did become fat though. A Femdom Sumo.
I’m not into fat, I’ll leave the imagining to you
Be hot if that outed her as a chick.
>Tries to pass for Samurai
>Big boobs spill out of robe
Those small pumpkins still just as fun to slap as those huge field pumpkins.
It'd be funny if her corset hid deceptively massive melons.
My penis says yes
She's an awful human being, I kinda hate her. Her being straight just makes it worse.
>She's an awful human being
How so? She's definitely not a good person, but most of her actions are justified, and she helps when it doesn't fuck with her mission.
1600s Japan wasn't really a nice place for nice people
You just have to accept that racism is ok but being hurt by racism is inexcusable.
Yes
Internet's been slow drawing her in that way, to my annoyance.
Weirdly I found her more fuckable in her normal attire compared to when shes trying to be more feminine.
Agreed. When she tried to look feminine, it didn't suit her at all.
Bisexual.
She's pretty slender. Not enough body fat for feminine curves.
>I will never be her body pillow
That's rough, Ringo
From the way she pinned down her husband, she was definitely a Femdom.
it's funny how a show can blatantly get away with anti-white propaganda if you cover it with Japanese Aethestic
lets say its getting a little odd.
>anti white
>the only two white people in it are Gods walking among Asian mortals
theyre more like monsters but okay sure
>can blatantly get away with anti-white propaganda
That's every show, it's so insidious people no longer notice it and scoff at it when it's pointed out.
It shouldn't surprise you that Michael Green, the main writer for this show, belongs to a certain tribe.
>All this butthurt
They should have made this show about hot steamy lesbian sex.
Would have been better.
Don't give a fuck about yet another piece of media about le sexism, woman stronk and wypipo = spawn of yakub
Mizu and some maternal, big-breasted rich widow.
genuinely looks like a man. even moreso than typical irl androgynous actresses. they just put a man head on a female body and its just the western version of japan's "draw a girl call it a guy". if you find her hot you're probably bi or gay.
The eyes tilt upward at the ends, instead of downward. Give-away of gender.
huh? men can have positive canthal tilt. in fact its a universally attractive trait.
She has delicate jaws, a small chin, a slender nose, small lips.......honestly the most masculine things about her are her high forehead and thick eyebrows.
she has a giant head and forehead and a huge midface. maybe you have to be a dyke to get it i don't know.
Sure she can pass for male to the layman but the giveaways are obvious.
Dyke here, she is ugly as sin.
>canthal tilt
I had to look up what the fuck this was, apparently it's unironic incel jargon, but even without "oof yikes sweaty" shit this is fucking stupid to obsess over
its just a universally positive thing to have regardless of sex. like a decent jawline, or a nose that isn't too big. negative canthal tilt makes you look depressed or dopey, i should know.
Now that's a girl gourmand for ya.
i went into this show blind and instantly was like >why the fuck does everyone call this woman "he"
>YER BONES BREAK LIKE A WOMAN
Where's the Femdom stuff of her yet? Or heck, the lesbian stuff? It's canon she protects and associates with prostitutes.
It’s a female version of Jin from Samurai Champloo, which I guess is a similar anime to this considering they have a similar premise and similar start to each show with a restaurant scene that turns into a fight
Also is it worth the slog to finish it? I’ve gotten through two episodes so far and it’s just ok. You can always tell what shows are actually produced by Netflix, and with a fucking Irish man being the main villain even though an Irish person wouldn’t step foot in Japan for centuries, it just doesn’t look like it’s worth my time
Well I'm a handful of episodes in, and she's in danger of falling into a moral abyss. I'm hoping she can pull herself out of it.
>Also is it worth the slog to finish it? I’ve gotten through two episodes so far and it’s just ok.
I enjoyed it but I also skipped the first 2 or 3 episodes on my first viewing.
I don't think I missed much.
It gets darker as she gets more consumed by revenge.
Yeah, that's the good shit. The first 3 episodes are worthless.
She's already pissed off two of her allies. I'm worried she's going to ruin herself in her quest for revenge.
>I'm worried she's going to ruin herself in her quest for revenge.
It'd be a pretty shit quest if she didn't.
>It’s a female version of Jin from Samurai Champloo
The first thing I thought after seeing the trailer thumb was that Watanabe finally got the funds for a second season of Samurai Champloo. Sadly is just an OK series that felt too inspired in Samurai Champloo. I mean, at least Watanabe knows that Jin should be ridiculed in order to make him likeable, Mizu is an unlikeable bitch.
Like Mizu said, she isn't a Samurai. She's out for revenge, and revenge is ugly business.
Samurai Champloo is a revenge story too, there is a line where a revenge story is a miserable story or a cool story. Champloo balances the miserable/cool story with different episodes, mixing goofy ones with serious ones. BES tried too hard to be serious and all the goofy stuff is just the fat retard doing retarded things. Mizu is the embodiment of misery and that don't feel like a compelling main character.
Those glasses and those hair woth Maya Eskrine's voice makes me wish Maya Eskrine just get pigeonholed as a cool androgynous badass woman.
I do love her shades. Iconic on the character. Considering how much of her backstory we've seen so far, I imagine we'll see how she got them as well.
I want to see her play Katana now.
>Mizu canon goes to prostitute complex
The lesbianism writes itself. Gotta maintain the act.
>"To be a warrior one must know all arts. Tell me your desire."
>"I wish to learn the 12 and 20."
She's cool but Taigen is a piece of shit.
She just has to Femdom him.
It's true, he's into that shit.
Twice the pride, double the fall.
I would a Mizu, but I'd also be thinking of this guy the whole time, which makes it a little gay.
Focus on the chin to snap you out of it, lol. That guy has a huge chin compared to hers.
I'm surprised more women haven't hit on Mizu in canon. There must be some lesbians intrigued by her blue eyes, sleep with a demon.
>Black teeth chicks
Yay or nay, now that the show has introduced you to them?
If she does lesbian stuff, she spanks weaker and more feminine women.
Reverse traps are great, Cinemaphile works need more of them
She is... awful. I can confidently say, having watched the entire first season, that I hate her and hope she dies. This is our protagonist? She is an actual piece of shit.
What if she became a Femdom prostitute? Would she be happier as a hedonist?
She is incapable of being happy. She actively chooses misery every time.
She just needs lesbian orgies, every single day, for months on end.
She would stab everyone in the room, sabotage herself and then go mope about it on her way to stab someone else.
In her sad little worldview, nothing is ever her fault and so everything she does is completely justified. I cannot stomach her.
Her revenge is a joke and makes no sense.
>I will kill a bunch of possibly unrelated white people on the off-chance that one of them is the one who banged my mom, which I am assuming was nonconsensual because white people are bad even though you'd think I wouldn't have such a narrow-minded perspective having been the victim of that exact thing myself but oh well, STAB STAB STAB STAB and of course this completely justifies me killing any and every person who gets in my way between here and there, but can't you guys see how I'm the good guy in all this?
Trash.
Translation: she belongs in an alternate timeline where she gets a lot of blissful mindblowing sex.
She belongs in a manual trash compactor with everyone she has needlessly and ruthlessly victimized at the controls.
The funny thing is that the way you laid it out here makes her seem like an actual samurai.
IRL Samurais were absolute dicks drunk on their own power.
>IRL Samurais were absolute dicks drunk on their own power.
Nah, there was a middle point. Of course there was bad samurais and good samurais. The whole idea of samurais killing all the peasants would started a revolt, because in small communities, the same samurais would be neighbors of merchants and farmers. Any daimyo would punish retarded violence in order to keep the peace. Real feudal japan wasn't like movies/mangas.
>can't you guys see how I'm the good guy in all this?
She is figuratively and literally portrayed as being a fucking demon. And by demon I mean a white fucking devil from the hell that is The West.
The entire capital city burns to the ground because she could not contain her white privilege, Mizu is a Snyderverse character.
Sure, the characters in-universe recognize that she's a psychotic piece of shit willing to let an entire city burn for the sake of her nonsensical revenge, but she's portrayed to the audience as sympathetic and like we should see her as being mistreated by these other people.
>but she's portrayed to the audience as sympathetic
But she is sympathetic, being sympathetic doesn't make her into a good person, just makes people understand the struggle that made her into the monster we're seeing
I personally cannot sympathize with her because I do not believe in her cause nor do I believe her actions are justified. I am sorry that you are a psychopath and can sympathize with your fellow lunatic.
>Gets treated like a demon her entire life
>Act shocked when she finally fights back
She ran into a lot of horrible people. Those people got what they earned.
you argue like a hysterical catlady holy shit
Her motivations are a bastard thing. To both hate the fact that you were born while trying to find some meaning in that birth. Her hunt for the 4 devils isn't just revenge. It's her "ember." The one thing steering someone who's alone in the world.
This, Princess Akemi make a better protagonist since her motivations are more clear and have a defined arc along Taigen. Even the fat fuck have a clear motivation.
>nothing is ever her fault and so everything she does is completely justified.
That's how female characters are written 99% of the time nowadays.
Sorry to break it to your horny fantasy brain but Mizu isn't gay, she's living as a man because women are forbidden from carrying swords.
>she belongs in an alternate timeline where she gets a lot of blissful mindblowing sex.
That's literally part of her backstory but her husband is a coward frightened by her murder boner.
>Complaining about canon in an alternate timeline fantasy
I'd make her bisexual actually. Twice the fun.
Depends on if she became revenge-crazy before she became a hedonist.
>In her sad little worldview, nothing is ever her fault and so everything she does is completely justified. I cannot stomach her.
Based anon. My thoughts exactly. She's enitrely unlikeable.
In fairness, it's not like people could have treated her like a human being and not a demon to be hunted down & killed from BIRTH.
>Not one of the prostitutes had a blue-eyes fetish
I don't buy it.
>The women advanced towards Mizu
>"His blue eyes are fascinating. Let's see if the demon lives up to legend and has true fire."
>Mizu smiled, ever so slightly.
With her skills, she could have run a harem empire easily.
is funny how she get a lot of serious injuries and no one haves a consequence. Make her invencible or make her realistic but this kind of convenient injuries for the sake of dramatism is a bit dumb.
It’s just the standard anime/cartoon trope of people healing from what would be debilitating injuries quickly.
Like look at Taigen, guy spent how long being tortured and had fingernails ripped out and such but he’s fine fighting a bit later.
Passionate Mizu/Taigen sex in S2
>"Finally a guy who will not whine when I'm on top."
>female lead
And like that my interest is gone.
That's how I know the show is shit and kept alive by shills. Pity, I was going to give it a chance.
Technically she never goes, "MUH POWER GIRL". The one time she tries to act all feminine, it blows up in her face.
Lesbian ship time.
Who would be best for Mizu?
The brothel owner is the only one who could handle her, but they have no chemistry.
I suspect her ideal woman is an older, maternal beauty with gigantic milk-loaded breasts. Feminine and obedient. I.e her direct opposite with a bit of a Mommy complex mixed in.
But she'd want someone with refinement, unlike her drug-addict mother. So that means a wealthy widow with an interest in the exceptionally rare flower (i.e a blue-eyed demon).
So that in summary is the type of woman I think Mizu would sleep with.
First ugly reverse trap I have ever seen.
I think you just might be gay bro
No that looks like a gay man with aids.
I can't wait for Season 2, where she goes to London and falls in love with a black guy!
A year ago if you told me there would be a well-animated samurai show starring a reverse trap and I would absolutely hate it I would... probably have been willing to hear you out, because we've had a string of stinkers.
Still, it's a hell of a thing that they mixed a bunch of things I love and managed to produce a turdburger.
what exactly is it you hate about it? i didn´t love it, but didn´t hate it. i was really not into it in the first episode, but it grew on me. watched it because a coworker insisted it was good. the apprentice was annoying, the hole princess storyline was kinda laughable, taigen was generally unlikeable/comic relief and somehow is still desireable for mizu and there were a lot of stupid moments in the action sequences. but it was alright.
Mizu likes weaker men.
I found her attractive. Thought her husband was big gay for reacting to her combat giddiness the way he did.
She reminds me of that plain Jane Chinese model that got so much hate a few years ago. It's not that she has a man jaw. She just has high cheekbones. It makes a woman look severe, but I like it.
This show is a white-supremacist dogwhistle.
i dont know. it certainly portrayed feudal japan as pathetic. i warned you about candles bro
but the constant referring to white people as ugly, even by fowler himself, reads differently. also fowlers statement about mizu burning the entire city to the ground, so she must be white. stuff like that reads like its 2023 and we are still hating white people because we are told to.
i doubt an irishman in that era would refer to himself as white or even british as well, especially one that lived through the famine.
The idea that European imperialism is somehow worse and/or more evil than Japanese imperialism is laughably ahistorical.
Are you trolling? How could you possibly come to that conclusion?
hot as fuck, want her to suplex me into submission laughin and then have sek
She does need way more attention from the internet.