so is this actually a realistic depiction of the Mob?
Imagine killing people and doing all this shit just to live at best an upper middle class life, I mean for frick's sake tony is the BOSS and his biggest accomplishments are.....owning a boat and a house with a pool?
I thought these dudes were supposed to be rich, whats the point of being a criminal if you're not?
They're in it because they're antisocial douchebags, not because it's a legitimate career option.
so is this really what it's like? What's some other mobkino that shows the real life of a mobster
idk, i liked the goodfellas too
goodfellas feels a lot more Hollywood and fantastical than sopranos imo
i find goodfellas a lot more kino than the godfather. might be because i've seen the latter only when i was a kid but still.
>goodfellas feels a lot more hollywood and fantastical than sopranos imo
yeah i kinda feel the same
Breaking Bad 😀
Breaking Bad is a cartoonish crime thriller, not a black comedy like The Sopranos.
yeah six feet under is actually way closer to the sopranos than the wire or mad men. lots of family/relationship drama, dark comedy all the time
based breaking soprano bro, both shows are crime kino
You might like Gomorrah (about the mafia in Italy)
That is even more unrealistic
Romanzo Criminale
And they're lazy as frick
he is not THE BOSS, he is a general who has many other bosses.
the motivation is to keep them from being wages and retaining power.
anyone that fricks with them can be dead in a weeks time, that's more important than anything. slaves cant even comprehend what it is to have brotherhood like this.
>he is not THE BOSS
in jersey he is, which is his world
*goes through quarterly humiliation conga with the FBI spelunking through his house*
>brotherhood like this.
>surrounded by narcissistic sociopaths
>who will murder or rat you out in a second's notice
>probably ratting on you as you speak
>will stab you in the back to move up the chain
yeah nice brotherhood bro
its a fricking tv show moron not actual mafia history
>Owning a yacht and a house with a pool is middle class in the US
upper middle class for sure. He doesn't even own a yacht it's just a small boat, go to any lake in america and you will witness hundreds of them everywhere. hell he doesn't even own a lake house, he has to trailer his boat there like a schmuck, and probably doesn't even own it and is paying it off.
It's not a boat it has a bar and a living space. Also he lives in a mansion.
>Also he lives in a mansion.
lol, no he doesnt. it's a big house for sure but it sure as frick isn't a mansion
It's all about the long curved driveway
It's a McMansion.
He does own it
>hell he doesn't even own a lake house
he almost bought one
he's also constantly stashing away money in the offshore accounts
maybe the low profile was deliberate lot of people do that for optics
I don't think so because even Hesh in the end is very disparaging about the overall real amount of money tony has when he can't pay him back, Hesh estimates his entire operation at like 6 million(kek), consider that tony considered setting up Carmellas $600k house to be a huge financial burden, you gotta think this dude wasn't clearing more than like $500k MAX annually
sorry you had to find out this way europoor bro, even poor mother frickers here have boats, unironically
the most accurate depiction is them constantly trying to sound more intelligent than they are by using uncommon words or phrases and using them incorrectly every single time
To play devils advocate, they don't have to deal with office space culture. They get to be themselves.
The Sopranos is supposed to represent the decline of the mob. The government has spent decades making life difficult for mobsters and it's starting to really take a toll on them. They have to be legitimately employed on paper and pay taxes or else the government will swoop down on them and only mid size local businesses are willing to give them no snow/no work jobs. They have more money, they just can't spend it haphazardly.
>so is this actually a realistic depiction of the Mob?
More or less. I remember reading interviews from actual mobsters who watched the show, and they said the only unrealistic things were:
>Going to a therapist
>Letting your wife go on trips/do shit without you.
>The large amount of killings.
As for Tony's lifestyle, the modern mob isn't even a shadow of what it once was. So considering Tony lives in North Jersey, which is pretty damn expensive, his house and assets are probably as well as could be expected.
>I remember reading interviews from actual mobsters who watched the show, and they said the only unrealistic things were:
can you source me some?
>Going to a therapist
Mobsters go to therapy, they just don't want to admit it. Frank Costello, one of the most famous Mafia bosses ever had a psychiatrist. Michael Imperioli also mentioned on Talking Sopranos that he had a psychiatrist friend who told him she'd seen a few gangsters before.
>The large amount of killings
There are less killings now, but what's unrealistic on the show is how they're carried out. When the mob murders someone these days, it's almost exclusively done in private, like Tommy's death in GoodFellas. Killing people in the open hasn't been done regularly since the '80s (John Gotti and Nicky Scarfo both insisted on killing guys in public "to send a message" and both got life in prison for it).
that's a major theme of the show, the Italian American mob at the time of show mob pales in comparison to actual organised crimes families in Italy, it's like a mock, vulgar reflection.
you also have to be aware that the soprano group made up of like a dozen made guys and a couple more thugs and a few more legit partners, the mafia world views them as nothing more than a glorified crew, and they are on the mercy of the family in new york in the event of a war
The real mafia was israeli
This is a picture of Paul Castellano's house, but he was boss of bosses in NYC and his men resented him for being greedy, so much so they eventually killed him for it.
To contrast, this is Carlo Gambino's house. The true boss of bosses in NYC who served only 22 months in prison in his whole life and died peacefully at his home at the age of 74. Paul Castellano was his nephew who took over after his death. Gambino was and still is well-respected by the entire American Mafia. Sometimes low key is better.
Tony is portrayed as being at best quasi-educated, to the point where he misspells common words and can barely write a coherent letter to his therapist. despite this:
> almost limitless cash for entertainment, including hookers and illegal gambling
> family enjoys comfortable, upper middle/lower upper class life
> both kids can go to either expensive private school or university with little or no debt
> wife can vacation in Europe for weeks
> power of life and death over the people who work for you or owe you money
> spend most days hanging out with your buddies
> no set schedule outside of specific high priority jobs
> "work" isn't even an email job
it's not The Godfather or Scarface, but it's better than what someone who only just completed high school would be able to expect without great work ethic, which none of the members of the family are depicted as having.
this i too thought they were living much better than they deserved like every one of them had a nice house with kids doing well etc
only paulie seemed realistic of what a street criminals life would be like
>owning a boat and a house with a pool isn't upper class
Trust fund kiddie detected
it's upper middle, definitely not rich rich
>trust fund kiddie
sorry my my parents are just better than yours lol maybe get different parents
The "Don doesn't wear shorts" line was supposedly told to Gandolfini by an actual mobster in-between seasons, so they used it as a Carmine line.
They also said during the time of filming that the tapes the FBI would get on the actual mob would feature associates and capos talking about the show and how true-to-life it was.
Tony's crew was constantly pulling small time scores of truck heists and robberies. If it wasn't a secure thing like Ralph's real estate gigs or their gambling dens, they were just constant grifters.
That's the entire point of the show. How the middle class (including "affluent" mobsters) are pit against each other while the true posh rich pricks love in a different reality. Think of Tony and Carm's white friends that one episode on the gold course or AJ's rich girlfriend.
>true posh rich pricks love in a different reality.
like what?
>Think of Tony and Carm's white friends that one episode
weren't they middle class like them? they were neighbours
the doctor was himself italian tho right?
>AJ's rich girlfriend
what did her father do
>weren't they middle class like them? they were neighbours
the doctor was himself italian tho right?
They were country club golf + insider trading types. Maybe not Uber rich, but still more "high class" than Tony.
>what did her father do
I don't remember, but she lived in a real mansion with security details and rare art in their house. Was meant to show what a naive look AJ had when it came to being wealthy.
>They were country club golf + insider trading types. Maybe not Uber rich, but still more "high class" than Tony.
They were just upper middle class people that got there the conventional way. The only really super rich was AJ's GF.
>Mrs. Sopranos
Really Chase?