So the Jurassic saga is over (for now).
How would you rank the six movies from the best to the worst?
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So the Jurassic saga is over (for now). How would you rank the six movies from the best to the worst?
JP>JW>LW>3>DOM>FK
Personally i'd put dom over 3 but not by much. This is a respectable list.
JP>TLW>JP3>>JWD>JW>>>JWFK
Haven't seen 6 yet, but dropping by to remind the thread that JPIII is better than TLW.
>much worse human characters
>Next to no plot aside shallow adventure in dangerous island
>The only cool sideplot (the mystery of the Spino and the other dinos not included in the official In-Gen lists wandering around) was just hinted a couple of times and never developed further
>That shitty non-ending
>ALAN
Just no. I think it's underapreciate and it's a decent adventure movie, but the Lost World it's better in pretty much any fields
Obvious troll is obvious.
Nah, 3 is bad but LW is worse.
Obvious troll remains obvious.
He's right though?
All the movie are better than TLW. God what a shit movie that was. Even Spielberg admits it's a bad movie. The plot is just all over the place, with hamfisted man vs nature shit, that absolutely moronic dock scene and way too on the nose allusions to Godzilla with the finale.
Of course it is, its kino by its own simplicity. Horror survival on a dinosaur a island, not some treehugger or nigglet bullshit in TLW
>Jurassic saga is over
No. There will be a third trilogy entitled “jurassic empire.” It will be directed by Trevorrow and take place in a the distant future, where an advanced race of velociraptors battle humans in a struggle for world domination.
Do... Do a female raptor and young, awkward human male learn they have more in common than they thought through relentlessly making love?
Next step in evolution! Life finds away!!!
I wish they would do a full reboot more faithfull to the horror style of the book source.
Who cares about the book
Would be cool, but never ever.
the lack of the carnage and tension of the first film is really the core issue with the new ones, disney is really a cancer that has just ruined all blockbusters
Yeah they've got plenty more of them in development, as if Michael Crichton's corpse hadn't already been raped enough.
Jurassic War
Dominion refused to actually do much with the "what if dinosaurs...in the real world?" concept because there will obviously be more Jurassic Park movies in the future (it's one of the last remaining bankable franchises when IP is king) and they want to keep some fuel in the tank for later
There isnt really anything else they could bring in the table, after using pretty much any relevant dinosaur and multiple mutated version of them
A smarters way would be to full reboot the series as faithfull to the books and turn them into a horror saga
There are few scenes here and there, maybe the extended version will add a few more, but there isn't much else to do with it. Dinosaurs aren't going away so there's no point in showing them as an environmental catastrophe. The characters got a send off, everything worked out. The problem is that this movie was by far the softest of the bunch afraid of killing anyone except the villains. That's why I'm probably not gonna put it above Jurassic World but still above III. Mediocre to ok and I'm glad it's over. If they make sequels they should be small and not connected to the previous ones. Now is the time to make something like JPIII - a small movie that feels like a side story with no connection to the larger universe.
A new side movie about this big homie and how the frick he is in the isle without being in the original In-Gen de-extinction species list would be kino
Illegal cloning that took place two years before JPIII. From what I found it seems like a few years after InGen was bought by Masrani they went back to Sorna to do a test run before a new park and Spinosaurus was one of the first hybrids together with the new raptors.
Yea, but that is just a fan theory based on a couple of hints from the movie and the following sequels. They really should had dwelve more into it in the actuall movie
>Jurassic World is pretty violent, actually has some of the most gruesome and mean-spirited kills in the franchise and pushes the PG-13 rating to its limit
>blue checkmarks are so fricking butthurt over the lady getting eaten by the mosasaur that the next two films are completetly spineless and only "bad" guys get killed
>dinosaurs are no longer forces of nature but instead superheroes only meting out righteous judgment to the deserving
I hate this shit. Eddie sure as frick didn't deserve it, but his heroism being rewarded with a brutal and terrible death is one of the only things that actually sticks with me from the Lost World
Dont forget that these blue checmarks gays are also the one still workshipping the first movie, a movie with human limbs being trown left and right
They are just butthurt because a woman got killed this time
We'll see if the extended version shows us some more but for now surprisingly the cartoon kills off more heroic and innocent characters. I don't know why they were so soft in Dominion I was sure that at least Wu is going to die but they made it so that he's needed alive.
>superheroes
LMAO. MCU living rent free in your head, you can’t even watch a Dino movie without thinking of us. We own this industry
>Now is the time to make something like JPIII - a small movie that feels like a side story with no connection to the larger universe.
The dinos on the mainland concept should easily allow for such a film. Like follow some sheriff's office animal control officer in rural Texas or something, who on top of the usual shit now also has to deal with there being fricking dinosaurs everywhere because apparently everyone and their mother had a cloning lab in their basement and decided to release their clones right after the clone girl went "hurr durr they are just like me" and released the captured InGen creatures.
JW is okay and everything after that is garbage.
Meant Jurassic Park is okay. Jurassic World is shit.
1. Jurassic Park
Based and kinopilled
JP>LW>JW>>>>JP3>Dom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FK
Haven't seen Dominon but otherwise this is pretty accurate. Should be more >>> between JP and LW but otherwise spot on.
I don't like ranking threads but if you ask.
JP > TLW > JW > JWD > JPIII > JWFK
Probably. I will rewatch them all in a few months when we have the extended cut of Dominion.
>6 movies
Crichton is rolling in his grave
Why? Because he didn't get more money out of it? He was a producer as well so he would.
I'm sure the owners of his estate don't give a shit but they've totally bastardized the original concept. No way he would've signed off on anything past III.
He was a pulp writer, a commercial author not some scientific, artsy genius. And he and Spielberg bonded over child-like love for dinosaurs. For some reason a lot of people think of Crichton as someone clinical who didn't care about that aspect and he just wanted to write something about bioethics.
I mean he was definitely scientific. Had an MD from Harvard and gave speeches to congress about climate change hoaxsters. If he was alive I imagine it would bore him to keep ravaging the same tired concept just for IP recognition bux.
>he was pulp writer, not scientific
clearly you never read chricton, he puts his hundreds of references in the back of his books. He did his research and doesn't just make up bullshit
College freshmen produce papers with loads of references in the back, that doesn't mean they've interpreted their sources correctly, or written anything of actual value. Crichton is a whole extra step removed - nobody is pretending that his work is supposed to be academic, and "he's twisting things a bit for the sake of the plot" is a consistent out.
Crichton was known for having a bit of an anti-science bend at times, it's pretty trivial to find the numerous critiques of this element of his work that has been written over the years. He's certainly not a "scientific" writer, he just liked to write about pop-science themes. But it's probably also not completely fair to call him "pulp". Pulpy pop-science is probably a fair middle ground.
Oh frick off.
Crichton’s major recurring theme that he remained true to his entire career was ‘Don’t get disrespectful and arrogant with science.’ It doesn’t matter if the science he presented was ‘pulpy’ or ‘soft sci fi’, the entire point of Jurassic Park, Sphere, Congo, Prey, and even the Richard Preston raped Micro was that the exploitation of science for personal gain or ego would always lead to disaster. Even dying of cancer he was rigid in this belief, and lost his entire reputation for accusing the climate science community of doing the exact thing he spent his career warning against.
And he was 100% correct.
Based Crichtonbro.
Let's not pretend his books weren't complete schlock too. Basic plots with one dimensional characters and finger deep explorations of scientific themes that always ended up being black and white for easy consumption.
The first movie was the only one that even tried to buck this trend by having Hammond be a sympathetic character. The rest of them had cigar chomping villains on one side and sanctimonious dullards who were always in the right on the other.
>finger deep
crichton's coverage of topics borders on autism sometimes, what are you talking about?
Lol, his 'science' was mostly bullshit designed to serve the plot. He was a writer of fiction so whatever, but the exploration of the themes those plots and concepts implied were always presented to readers under a very black and white narrative.
did Fear cause you that much asspain? kek im sure he'd be happy if he was alive to hear that
What? That he's a climate change denier? Not really. I think it just proves my point that his work is mostly shlock and he never really attempts to provide a holistic view on any particular theme.
Again, that's fine, but let's stop pretending he was some wise arbiter of morals and ethics in scientific topics and admit he was a writer of engaging airport novels with interesting but contrived settings and characters, just like the jp movies.
>interesting
exactly why people like his books, the just enough plausibility is fine
1 is great and all the rest are terrible and non canon and don’t count
What a boring, awful and wrong opinion.
He's also more correct than anyone else has ever been about anything ever.
just because you're a contrariangay doesn't make you impressive
This and only this. Although if we had to rate the others, it would have to be the ones with the greatest incidence of Bryce Dallas Howard's Big Brapper
the 1st is overrated, I'm willing to be everyone here thinking the first is great was not an adult when it was out.
it is literally tween bait.
Nice Bait
>implying most people here haven't seen JP more than once
As an adult it's litterally better becuase you take notice to the actuall better parts of the movie, IE humans talking about the ethical questions
As a kid you just wants to see the dinos smashing shit stuff 8and these are still good as adults anyway)
gay
Just from an adult perspective
JP3 because slasher kino > JP > JP2 > JW >>>>>>>>>>>> JW Fallen Kingdom
did not watch Dominion
1 > 2 > 3 >>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>>>> 5 > 6
1=3>rest
all else is contratian bull hockey and you know it
1>4>everything else.
2 could have actually been good if they stuck to the book which they told Crichton to write in the first fricking place, the others have too many issues to be salvageable.
>the book
isn't it about mobsters going to the island to steal dinosaurs or some moronic shit?
>mobsters
No, its the rival company. The same one who paid newman to steal the DNA in the original.
Oh. How is it different from the movie then?
Well its not the rival company in the movie, its just ingen. Also there's a frickton of different things that im too lazy to type out.
The book ends with all the dinosaurs dying from an incurable disease and actually attempts to have a message instead of throwing a trex in California.
JP > TLW:JP > JW > DOM > FK > 3
>Hating Spinokino movie
Found the redditor
rexgays deserve the rope but JP3 has pretty significant problems besides butthurt over Spino winning the dino fight
Three is Rushed, has annoyimg characters. A dumb story not connected to the rest of the series.
Spino is great
Alan is great
Raptor scenes are great
Does not push the world any further.
No overall theme about the animals and man wanting to interfere with nature
The sattelite phone inside the Spino is dumb as frick. How is the sound so loud through his body that they can hear that but not hear his footsteps coming.
The ending comes out of nowhere.
It feels less grand.
>The sattelite phone inside the Spino is dumb as frick. How is the sound so loud through his body that they can hear that but not hear his footsteps coming.
My favorite part is the next bit, where we see the Spino charge through a 30 foot tall steel fence and then he's immediately warded off by a wooden door with a few iron braces on it
Exactly, also he blasts through a fence specifically made to keep in A dinosaur but he can’t blast through a small door.
Three nist goes so fast from setpiece to setpiece that it lacks tension, it’s all fast paced action with music blasting through every scene. There is no build up to the Spino like the Rex had in JP1, The 2 Rexes had at JP2 and even the Indominus had in JW.
>Does not push the world any further.
Better than pushing it out of a cliff like the World saga did. At worst it's an harmless addiction to the saga
>No overall theme about the animals and man wanting to interfere with nature
There a few hints about the Spino being an anomaly in the isle because it was not among the dinos officially ressurected in the JP 1 list. This and lab scenes were actually meant to be further developed into a subplots about illegal experiments to create new hybrid dinos, but the clusterfrick that was the develop of JP III reduced it to just a couple of hints
Years later this concept was recovered and developed for the Indominus
>The sattelite phone inside the Spino is dumb as frick. How is the sound so loud through his body that they can hear that but not hear his footsteps coming.
Agree in this one
>The ending comes out of nowhere.
Agree in this one
>It feels less grand.
LK and Dominion are world-ending tier in scopes and are much shittier. I'm fine with smaller scope adventures in between
>Spino is great
It was a T Rex/Spino hybrid, the very first hybrid. Wu and is team developed it a couple of years before JP 3 as a exercise for further advanced hybrids
Wu himself in the promotional stuff for JW hinted that he left a "mess" in the B site. Given the Spino is nowhere to be seen in movie 2, it logical to think he was made by him in the years between 2 and 3
>hybrid dinosaurs
Frick I hate every movie after lost world
They were hyrid since the start pal. JP 1 "dinos" are litterally giant toads shaped as dinos
Simply from the Spino onwards In-Gen went all out with having fun making weirder and weirder hybrids, once admitting to themselves they are all lab monsters anyway
i think the issue isn't "hybrids", its that they take something like hybrid dna and then make a movie monster out of it with no attempt to make it act like an animal
the second film with the little girl and the indoraptor was closer to a slasher
Lost World sucks though
Only the first is good
It's canon that Spino isn't a hybrid.
What is the mess doctor's Wu left on site B then? It was mentioned in World's promotional stuff
Alan mention he wasnt in the list of dinos planned for the park in movie 1. So who the frick made him? And when? And why? Why it's so hyperagressive to activelly look to fight and kill any T-rex on the isles?
He's still talking about Spino, it's just that Spino isn't the first hybrid, or one at all.
These things' existence proves that.
Still, why making him in the two years between LW and III when his team returned in the isle to make unofficial stuff?
Couldn't tell you and it appears Universal doesn't want to tell us either, much to my dismay.
I wish we had more coverage on Sorna.
And no, Maisie's Mary Sue mom doesn't count, Universal.
JPIII was of course a mess but years later the story group made it seem more important so now Spino and new raptors are supposed to be first (illegal) tests before Jurassic World. Spino maybe isn't a pure hybrid but of course was heavily modified (because real spinos were a lot different).
A mess because at first they didn't know what the story was about. The facility seen in JPIII was supposed to be the same one as the workers village in TLW.
Which, in turn, the worker's village in TLW was supposed to be a lot bigger.
>It was a T Rex/Spino hybrid
The cope is real.
I would at least put 3 over FK. JPIII had terrific raptors that were in the right the whole time and did nothing wrong while FK lacks anything that memorable.
Fallen Kingdom is very well shot and has some cool setpieces, but unfortunately the movie is kind of toothless (literally no one besides the bad guys are ever in any danger from the dinosaurs) and the human cloning bullshit was dumb and should never have been brought into the films, even disregarding the Dominion retcons making it even more moronic
2 > 1 > 3 >>>>>>>>> W2 Island > W > W2 Mansion
>2 better than 1
jesus christ frick off
JP > the rest
Just saw Dominion and liked it, could be a case of low expectations though
JP>>>>The rest
this new one was offensively bad, it was made to piss me off specifically
1>>3>2>>4>>5>6
I think this is the first series ever that has achieved continuous downward quality
1>2>3>4>5>6
Dominion was made for chinese people and capeshit Black folk
the presence of Sam Neil alone puts Dom above World or FK
I love sam neil, they turned his character into a cuck and he essentially wasn't in the movie despite having lines
>they turned his character into a cuck
you've been spending too much time on this board
no, he basically didn't have a character except relative to others, hes just one of this film's avengers lmao
This. It wasn't Alan Grant: The Character, it was Alan Grant: "Remember This Guy From Jurassic Park™?" trying to escape the friendzone.
1 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 5 > 2
was it ever established what happened to Isla Sorna? I know Jurassic World mostly pretends TLW and III didn't happen but it's strange that an entire island full of dinosaurs just gets ignored
Kept in the vault for following sequels most likely.
Some of the dinosaurs were relocated to other places (the Rex couple is back and well and still together) but something must still be there.
JP > JPIII >= TLW >>> JW > CC S1-3 >>> JWD >= FK > CC S4
Release order.
1>2>3=4>5=6
5 and 6 are downright horrendous. While 6 is the overall worse movie of 5 and 6 it does have alot of neat dinos to balance it out. 2 is the most underrated JP by a mile and a half. If it wasnt for San Diego it wouldve been better than JP1.
>If it wasnt for San Diego it wouldve been better than JP1.
2 was good from when the ingen dudes showed up all the way until the raptor scene in the compound
yep. People are just blindsided by public opinion. Just like how Return of the Jedi is better than 4 and 5.
Anything after the first just doesn't have the same atmosphere and is interchangeable.
JP>JP2>JP3>>>>JW>FK>D
I still can't believe they turned Wu from a eglomaniac playing god to playing back seat to donut steel woman, they seriously had to go back and ruin the first movie
why the frick did they think adding Hammond's long lost brother cloning his dead daughter was a good idea and then WHY did they think retconning it to make it so she cloned herself was an even better idea?
why is the final word of the series given by a character we have literally NEVER SEEN
Between that and the locusts extravaganza i have the strong feeling some writer/director trow in the new trilogy their ideas from completely unrelated projects that were rejected by producers. It's a not a uncommon pratice for butthurt Hollywood writers that want to found a way to develop their rejected ideas
the locust fire tornado was beyond the pale
I must've been really tired or ill or something because by the end of that monologue I thought "man those are some pretty nice shots, remind me of the end of TLW, adorable scenes but who's talking? Some journo on tv?" I guess it was neat to see footage from the 80s because we knew that this is when the first dinosaurs were cloned but no one ever mentioned that in the movies.
Somebody explain to me why they do the whole "actually we didn't have the science wrong it was just genetic manipulation the whole time" sort of retconning I hate, but they still don't acknowledge the whole velociraptors vs. utahraptors thing? Why didn't they just make the raptors in world utahraptors, which were actually bigger?
JP will forever be better than JW
We posting JPOG parks?
which is the lowest point of the original 3 films
the one on the right is just a corny dream sequence, the one of the left is actual schlock garbage. TLW is still better though overall
You posted them
Dream raptor is nowhere NEAR as bad as gymnastics and you people that act like that dream sequence ruined the entirety of 3 instead of talking about the real issues of that film need to go have a nice day.
Ellie and Alan not being together? Maybe it's fan-ficky but I don't blame Dominion for making them a couple again. It always felt wrong that a playboy like Malcolm had a family but not Grant.
In fairness I kind of get why they're not together in III - Grant is a career man and just because he doesn't HATE kids on principle anymore doesn't mean he's suddenly going to be willing to potentially put his career on hold in order to raise children
there's a lot I love about Jurassic Park but I was never that invested in the Grant/Ellie relationship, there's more chemistry between ellie and ian anyways. Grant and Ellie are all business whenever they talk to each other, there's no flirtation or sexual attraction
I always took it as Alan trying to protect Ellie from Ian. They weren't together in the novel since they were just colleagues and they seemd to act as such in the film as well.
Malcolm has kids, but he's not married. That fits the whole playboy thing. That said, it's not clear how many kids he has - he memes in the original movie and Dominion that he has something like 5, but the only kid we ever see is Kelly - and in TLW there is no mention of any other kids. If he had others, you'd think they'd come up with some of the Kelly stuff.
Otherwise I guess Malcolm didn't stay together with Sarah Harding after TLW. It would have been neat to have Sarah along for the ride in Dominion (and maybe Kelly too, I think there was some speculation that she was going to be that black woman in the movie?), but I guess Julianne Moore is a little too classy for these movies.
I also don't blame Dominion for putting Grant and Ellie back together, but it did feel needlessly fan-ficky to me too. It feels like they did Grant pretty dirty in this movie overall, so it was a shame that they had to do this "actually his life is miserable lmao" thing on top of it all.
yeah its one thing for them to get together, but the execution of it, and almost everything else was atrocious
The one on the left and it's not even close.
Dream raptor is just a silly funny scene, gym kick is just baffling.
TLW in general has a lot more problems than JP3. The only thing TLW has over JP3 is that there's more practical effects to it and seeing Rex being a Kaiju for a couple of minutes.
Don't forget TLW has the best character.
JPIII is still better though.
Best character.
Roland literally did nothing wrong.
Exactly in the order in your image
kek
1>>> 2 > 4 > 3 > 5
havent watched 6
5/10, 0/10, 0/10, 0/10, 0/10, 0/10
JP > Dominion > Fallen Kingdom > Jurassic World > JP2 >JP3
Only JP1 and LW matters
Literally in the order as the pic. It peaked at 1 and got exponentially worse with each movie. It's amazing the absolute lack of knowledge for your target audience.
A straight, downward curve starting sky high and ending rock bottom.
Nothing will ever Trump Fallen Kingdoms
>I'm going to cause a giant ecological disaster and cause the deaths of hundreds of not thousands of people and millions in property damage by releasing a bunch of dinosaurs into the wild because THEYRE LIKE ME!!!! XDDD
This kid should've been arrested.
Imagine being a poor person just trying to feed your family and keep a roof over their heads and your house gets trampled by a Brachiosaurus because some b***h thought dinosaurs should be released into the wild because they're genetic freaks like her.
And they had the gall to double down on this dumb Mary sue in Dominion.
God, what a waste of a character.
I don't get it, they're just animals.
Humans are really good at killing them.
Don't all the JW dinos have trackers?
>I'm going to cause a giant ecological disaster and cause the deaths of hundreds of not thousands of people and millions in property damage by releasing 20 dinosaurs
>20 dinosaurs that can reproduce on their own
You see in the movie that there are heaps of dinos in America now.
moron.
>You guys know how the make hated part of JW2 is the trex running around in the states wild?
>Lets make 2 out of 3 of our films around that idea
1 > 2
haven't seen the rest
I really like dinosaurs, bros. Even if the movie is shitty I just like seeing dinosaurs doing their thing and shit. Dominion was eh, but it had dinosaurs, so I enjoyed it.
I like dinosaurs, too.
I don't, however, like them acting like superheroes or self aware setpieces.
You're right, but I just like looking at them do stuff. I'd watch an entire movie with no dialogue and just dinosaurs.
Those are dinosaurs to me too.
>it had dinosaurs
it has corny movie monsters
Jurassic Park >> The Lost World >>>>> Jurassic Park 3 >>>>>>>>> Jurassic World >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallen Kingdom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dominion.
literally the movies in descending order
each movie gets a little shittier
How it started
>A group of people are stranded in an island full of dinosaurs and they must find a way to survive until they are rescued.
How it ended
>All past characters team up to form The Avengers, a group of superheroes dedicated to fighting evil scientists trying to take over the world with their army of super mutant locusts and bodyguard dinosaurs
I hate it
>dedicated to fighting evil scientists
The weirdest part of this is that they just 180'd the past two World movies with regards to the "evil scientist" stuff. Wu was consistently portrayed as "bad" in the first two World movies, but then in Dominion they just totally changed him to this meek "did misguided things but ultimately means well" dude. I don't know why they didn't just keep his characterization the same - it legit feels like they were hoping the majority of the audience would have forgotten how he was portrayed in the previous two films.
Captcha: DOODO
Describing the World movies.
By release date.
1 > 3 > World 2 because I want to frick the asian > World > 2
Didn't watch the new one
>because I want to frick the asian
Based. I was actually happy that she got a cameo in Dominion
what asian?
It’s already in order. You can watch 1&2 and stop, it was no longer a horror / suspense movie series in 3. The dinosaur fights are forced. The animators turned the dinosaurs into pitbulls.
>it was no longer a horror / suspense movie series in 3
Frick me, this.
I re-watched the trailer attack scene from The Lost World after I got back from seeing Dominion. The difference in atmosphere and suspense is just night and day.
I was also fricking surprised to see that the entire sequence was only 6 minutes long. My recollection was that it would have been several times that length: it has several different parts, all of which are suspenseful in different ways.
Compare Malcolm in this scene or the original Jurassic Park's T.rex breakout scene with his quipping while throwing a flaming grasshopper shish-kebab at the Giganotosaurus in Dominion. Frick me.
Disagree, the fight in 3 is much more grounded and primal than what the JW trilogy did.
JP >>> TLW >>> JW = JP3 > JWD > FK
hhuh