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I don't get it
It's political, in a sense.
I spent a full minute trying to figure out if it was loss
autism
Is this accurate?
I don't think the EC fits in the diagram so nicely. Bill should probably be top right as well as Josh, and Pete could just as easily be in the bottom right.
I recalled seeing it when I was a kid and seeing these threads convinced me to read the source material which was good but more than that got me to start looking into the period of nerd culture I grew up in the shadow of but was never a part of.
>looking into the period of nerd culture I grew up in the shadow of but was never a part of
I don't know how old you are but I caught the tail end of it and the overlap with LAN culture and it was as amazing as it was horrifyingly lame.
Anyone remember back alley weeb stores? The rise and fall of those charts along with this.
I remember getting the first volume of Tekken Chinmi from one when I was in high school. Good times.
All I remember are the wall scrolls and bootleg subs. DVD rips with vhs tracking lines. Then shit went mainstream and they all closed up or went for the TCG audience.
TA The best way I can put it is that I was a nerdy kid in that era but was consumer at the fringes not anyone directly interacting with that culture.
My dad was but he was that kid who buried his nerdy interests growing up to hang with the popular kids and so when I was growing up her started getting in touch with "mainstream" nerdiness. So I grew up with episodes of Cowboy Bebop on DvD and watched stuff like Code Monkeys and G4's E3 coverage, I was and still am a Gorillaz Fan and was bumming around Newgrounds since 2006, I perused random comics from my towns store before it closed down and perused the local video store but I was never a part of it, to young to talk with others about it and seeing shit that likely would have gotten my dad in trouble with my age.
But the best way to sum it up is that I watched Dr. Horrible as it came out but was to young to really Get It. Sure I could laugh at some jokes but I wasn't involved enough with the culture to understand what was driving it. Nor old enough to be engaged with any discussion of I didn't go on a forum to any real extent till 2012 at the earliest.
So I have been going back and looking at media from the era looking through old forum posts and talking with people like the 40 year old nerd in my DnD group who was really mad about Firefly getting Canceled.
Yeah, you missed TechTV and some of the shit just before that, also tail end of the 90s where nerd culture got huge on the internet concurrent with Buffy. Probably for the best, a lot of the 30-38 year olds now got absolutely fricked by growing up unsupervised on that iteration of the internet.
It was already taking on too much water by 2009. Had a good run leading into GG but the era was ending everywhere.
I can't remember exactly when, I think circa 2011-2012, but to me the first major sign of things going downhill was watching Cinemaphile sour on Kate Beaton because she made a post saying "I'm a cartoonist, not your waifu" and that offended the simps who had slowly started obsessing over her rather than Hark a Vagrant itself. I think around this time was also when a sort of hyper-ironic shitposting began to come in vogue, which has since become normal discourse.
>I think around this time was also when a sort of hyper-ironic shitposting began to come in vogue, which has since become normal discourse.
I think that's what really killed online culture. There was always some of that, but now it's the dominant mode. People can't just be sincere, it's all posturing and saying things you might not even really believe just because you think it'll piss some other people off.
I'm honestly pretty fricking bummed that I was too young to engage in genuine nerd culture before it started to get mainstream, commercialized, and butchered. The 2000s looks so damn inviting compared to the shit we got today.
>being a nerd moves from graph paper to digital
>technology makes it easier to share and grow your moronic nerd hobby
>nerd conventions have soul and people give a shit
>so niche that the people who get captured by it are genuine enthusiasts
>not so niche that you at least know a few people who are into it and people generally aren't bullied for it
It was a sweet spot, and we'll never see it again. Now it's
>conventions are a corporate merchandise swap-meet
>calling yourself a nerd or a geek with pride is so ubiquitous that it's worse than being lame
>the only outsiders now are genuine niche weirdoes that are more autistic than anything
>"My favorite movie is Avengers Endgame and my favorite TV show is Dr Who. And yeah I'm something of a memer myself LOL (said phonetically)."
>outsiders
It's more like people just got really fricking gay.
>fat bald 35 year old who looks 53 with his fricking captain america shirt and soiface.jpg
Like where did normalgays go wrong, why did they all turn into 'this'.
>go to hobby store in late 2000s as a kid
>buy a bunch of shit
>store clerk girl gives me this weird look like 'why are you buying redundant stuff'
It was always honked. But now that I think of it the last gamestop near me is gone and so are all the hobby stores. The shop that sold cards is gone too. I don't know if the games workshop is locally still in business. Everything is gone. Except the comic book store, for some reason they do alright. Funkopops I think, every person goes there to buy the funkopops.
>>fat bald 35 year old who looks 53 with his fricking captain america shirt and soiface.jpg
>Like where did normalgays go wrong, why did they all turn into 'this'.
No responsibility, no shame.
Endless indulgence is a virtue.
Standards are precede as a vice.
Gen Xers can be hedonists, Millennials unwarranted self importance, boomers a mix of both
>the last gamestop near me is gone and so are all the hobby stores. The shop that sold cards is gone too. I don't know if the games workshop is locally still in business. Everything is gone.
Must suck to live in a fly over
California is projected to lose 4 million people this decade and New York will lose 1-2 million, you are the flyover now big boy.
>2 states with populations larger than some counties are going to lose a fraction of that population
>anon thinks this will make his empty shit hole relevant
I actually don't live in the midwest but I'm amused they live in the heads of calicucks like a chimp on a rampage. Anyway californian decline is only based on numbers from 2020, it will likely accelerate. Texas will surpass California around 2025 to become the largest state. All of the historically large "fly in" cities are becoming irrelevant, which means you'll probably have to find something else to try and derail threads with you moronic gay.
>I'm not from a fly over
>I'm just feverently defending them
>and I'll project and claim you're from california and that all other states live in your head while being totally oblivious to the irony
So this is what having no place to go and nothing to do does to someone
Hey if it lowers housing costs I'm down for it. Let Texas have the 2000$ 600sq feet studio apartments.
It's a weird trade-off, from a consumer perspective, I like how things are now, with a shitload of stuff being readily available for free. From a fan perspective, I do miss the pre-web2.0 days without a centralized internet diluding the discussion potential.
It was already those things to some degree in the 00s. But that also meant it was a broader culture than previously, yet one that still had fundamental similarities. Eltingville hits on the nasty side of it, the old guard at the core before the internet democratized things and made it accessible but still niche and of no interest to the greater public. I think this place exemplified both sides of it at the time. You had the turbo autists but also the self aware turbo autists tired of forum bullshit and IRL drama.
I'll try not to be too much of a revisionist, people were really into comics but it was a lot less big two and a lot more indie being storytimed and the idea of sharing anything was demonized elsewhere because they were all filthy paypigs. You'd be politely told to frick off and have a nice day because your opinions were structurally made of bullshit, not so much the content itself. The elephant in the room is that the vast majority of people with computers were ostensibly white, middle class, male, and reasonably intelligent. Ostensibly. That contributed to a higher level of discourse and decorum than all the phone posting ESLs are capable of. It's very hard to understand nuance and subtext when you're an autistic shitskin with a lukewarm IQ and zero experience with the culture being referenced and zero grasp of the language.
That trend extended outward and now everything has fallen to appealing to the lowest common denominator to the point that what was once the mean is now an outlier.
>people were really into comics but it was a lot less big two and a lot more indie being storytimed
That's why I really like how Dorkin made fun of the more typical aspects of nerd shit and then also the indie/alternative comix autists who pretend to be above it all.
I don't really make much of a distinction between the two, I meant that interests were much broader and less defined. And here specifically, there was more interest in pre-code type comics and euroshit, there was also a good enough ratio of euros to support it.
And the fact that our gatekeeping failed is a travesty.
I can respect old-school nerds, nowadays people into gaming/anime/etc pretend to be ironic because having a passionate love and admiration towards something makes you ''cringe''. I wanna go back to anime nerds hating ecchi garbage and pretending to be superior by enjoying 2deep4u anime like Lain or Technolyze. Discussing anime nowadays it's impossible, if you take your chink cartoons slightly serious or try to see them as an art form rather than just fap fuel you are deemed ''cringe'' by the 14-year-old ironic weebs.
For games it's the same, look at EA's most recent tweet. Tabletop gaming is full of trannies, that's also a problem that's rampant and ruining most nerd hobbies. Sci-fi is basically dead and every new movie that comes out is just corporate garbage.
Trannies wouldn't be a problem if they would just shut up and be their homosexual selves. I have seriously no idea why I have to give a shit who you are. I don't go yelling about how of a fricking black person I am every time I roll dice. It's literally the same thing too, I'm so light skinned you couldn't tell, and troons look like dudes with breasts 90% of the time.
Nothing has changed for 30 years anon, it's just a different flavor of annoying
I was in it right before the major collapse.
I was reading deadpool and hyped that he was being included in MvC the marvel movies were just starting to come out to okay reception and the idea of them being aligned with the comics and not shitty shlock like much of the early 00s was in the air (we could have no idea of what was coming).
Comicbook events were at their peak beginning the rapid nonstop decline. Dnd and wargaming were still embarrassing nerd stuff and anime was still something rare and exciting to see in the wild.
So many wasted years, arguing, fedora tipping(metaphorically), reading shitty cape, playing tabletop...
Almost nostalgic but at the time I'd have given anything to be where I am now.
Weird mix of emotions
>Almost nostalgic but at the time I'd have given anything to be where I am now.
how does it feel to become a normalgay after so many years?
>how does it feel to become a normalgay after so many years?
Different. Wife+kids in TechJob which I am not a bussy slapping degenerate who just wants to CONSOOMS 24/7 or kill myself leaves me ostracized in a different way.
Although I can't name the sorcerer supreme accoutrements anymore or what iron fist !magicchina land is called but I write shitty warhammer fanfiction so ya know, still a gay, but gayer
Different Cinemaphilemrade here, but pretty good. I'm an oldgay, though the EC crew is slightly older than me (they were in HS in the mid-90s, I was late 90s). My group was more into video games and anime (we actually did tape-trading!), but also did weekly RPG sessions of not just AD&D or even Vampire: The Masquerade, but really obscure stuff that two of our friends collected. Dunno, after HS we split up and after college I didn't really do much except some video gaming and anime. You just kind of transition into normal life unless you're literally autistic.
It works out fine, though. I married a Japanese chick who, ironically, is not at all into anime, manga, or video games but also doesn't care that I read/watch them. You just learn to enjoy your interests without being an obnoxious sperg about it.
>So many wasted years, arguing, fedora tipping(metaphorically), reading shitty cape, playing tabletop...
TEN YEARS GO BY
NO ONE TOLD YOU WHEN TO GO
YOU MISSED THE STARTING GUN
>TEN YEARS GO BY
Frick dude... Graduated HS in 2012, dont hit me like that
And people in the 00's felt the same way you do now about an earlier age.
>All these fricking fake nerds watching Star Wars now just because the prequels came out!
>God damn jocks think they're gamers just for playing CoD and Halo!
>D&D 4e is casualized trash and is killing the hobby!
>World of Warcraft will never take over Everquest, it's too easy!
>I wish I could go back to before the internet was a thing...
Yeah but they were right because the more mainstream it got the weirder the mainstream got. It wasn't that the nerds became sidelined by chad dressing up as darth vader, but chad became a lot weirder and less of a chad.
Potential incarnate
Far too ahead of its time. It perfectly captured how much nerds and nerd culture suck, and is just as applicable today as it was back then.
shits so gay now it makes that old school toxic fandom shit look like heaven. the part in the pilot where they are at that dudes store actually gave me a sence of longing. the same feeling comes to mind when thinking of that episode of dexters laboratory where him and his friends go to the wrong convention.
the clevland show does a pretty good job at point this normification.
>the clevland show does a pretty good job at point this normification.
what episode
Can't remmeber the name of it, but I'm pretty sure he's talking about the comic con episode
Yeah, with Donna's over the movie she was in.
The comic portrays it better. Basically the kids go there because the only other dude in the neighborhood who sells this shit went to jail for pedophilia charges, and Joe's been able to completely destroy all market competition, while also ripping off his customers and selling them garbage that's not actually worth anywhere near what he wants them for.
>nerds and nerd culture suck
Sir you're posting on Cinemaphile. You have no room to talk.
Yeah. It's amazing to me when people post the comics here. So many people post about how it's not recognizable as nerd culture anymore and it's from a different time. The style and specifics have varied (there would be an anime guy now and a more aggressive video game guy), but the general tone is so on point. The toxic relationship of the main group I see recreated in little groups every time I go to a comic book shop.
It's a slice of a specific portion of human nature.
It's weird that people say it's unrecognizable when there's usually like half a dozen posters who pop up defending Bill in the same threads.
I just chalk it up to the lack of self-awareness being a core trait of nerds.
They're saying the trappings and structure of nerd culture are completely different. Like how 99% of internet media was about nerd culture and LAN gaming or how it was a tiny niche of cottage industries and small shops that became commercialized and conventions are unrecognizable compared to what they were. Fan media doesn't exist in the same way, it's all asymmetric and corpo, websites and talking heads on israelitetube.
The core of the characters hasn't changed but the world they live in is gone.
>became commercialized
you clearly never read the comics, a huge recurring theme is how consumerism is destroying the boys mental state, in particular Josh. They collect comics and toys almost more for the sake of doing it than for any joy those thing bring them. They go to see every big budget movie that comes out and, with zero self awareness, remark that they have to because if they didn't, they'd have nothing to talk about
where are the black people??
Playing Video Games
It's pretty good. You're not a fujo are you?
watched the pilot a few weeks ago while on a faild cartoon binge. would have been a fun series to watch.
i dont think it can be made today seeing as how much nerd culture has been normified since then.
If they made it today, they would make them even bigger negative stereotypes.
There’s literally an official sequel comic about them as adult nerds in modern day, and they’re still the biggest dickwads on the planet.
I really liked pre 2014 EC, wish it had more issues of the guys just causing mayhem around the city and being autistic. It's somewhat comfy even, but then it becomes this cringy self projection of the artist and it gets boring and tedious to read. I really, really wish the pilot was picked up, even a short series, i would have loved to have a time capsule of early 00's nerd culture.
I kinda liked how that part of their lives came to a very reasonable end, and I did enjoy certain aspects of the timeskip story, but yeah Dorkin got too opinionated about the fandom and made them a bit too sterotypically shitty instead of actual real shitty people.
I enjoyed the whole late 90s to early 2000s nerd culture both the show and comics were embodied in, so it was very nice.
Wish this show had more of an audience beyond just cumbrained fujos
why are you posting my room
I have never ever seen such a dysfunctional group ... they make the South Park gang look like the best of buds by comparison because they can at least work together for 5 minutes.
That's how it used to be, you would hang out with people just because they were into the same obscure shit as you and you wanted to talk about it with someone that got it even if they were a total piece of shit
Thank god for the internet making it easier to talk about shit with people
Was it just the boomer millennial version of this?
>the boomer millennial version
Easy with the buzzwords there sport, you might hurt yourself just flinging them around willy-nilly like that.
No he's right, he's referring to older millennials who were teenagers in the '90s as opposed to the younger ones.
I'd honestly be astounded if K.C. Green didn't take at least a fraction of inspiration from Dork to make Anime club
best part is that hentai isn't even the term
Yeah no shit. Mort is that weirdo that most of us knew who spouted weird trivia that when scrutinized was only ever 50% accurate at best.
My Mort was named Mike and he convinced me that Evangelion was a porno in Japan and that Quatre from Gundam Wing was actually a girl. We also got lost in the woods on a Boy Scout campout once and he immediately started saying stupid shit like "DUDE, SOMETHING IN THESE WOODS DOESN'T WANT US TO LEAVE" with the utmost sincerity.
>Quatre from Gundam Wing was actually a girl
My best friend older brother tried to convice us that Yugi from yugioh was actually a girl
Since you femanons love bullying and fapping to nerds, what's your opinion on the silent film comedian, Harold Lloyd? He was the original bullyable nerd.
He is great. He did all his stunts all while missing some fingers
The show was good shit, but the comic is where it's at. It explores the characters more and shows just how shitty they are and the effect their hobbies have on their lives. The show kinda felt the need to tone down the dark aspects to the comic and get rid of the violence and swearing.
Not that we needed it, but it was great to see a more "realistic" depiction of nerds, specially when the whole geek culture thing was getting popular.
Poor Jerry.
Jerry's a dickhead too, Josh had it the worst by far since even Jerry ripped on him for being fat. Bill's the worst by far, tho.
>Josh had it the worst by far since even Jerry ripped on him for being fat.
Josh being fat had a lot to do with him being inhumanly selfish.
But yeah, Bill is the worst one, fricking sociopath.
They all had selfish tendencies since they're all autistic, Josh moreso since we got a POV story. He becomes more sympathetic since he's this entire group's punching bag. Jerry might've pretended to have become a better person, but he was still hopelessly attached to the hobby and was just as much of a bully as the other two.
>Jerry might've pretended to have become a better person
I don't think Dorkin wrote him as pretending to be better. I think people jump to that conclusion because he was enjoying his hobby without being petty, which is also what the other characters thought.
Still, it's kinda sad how his claim to success is by playing Magic obsessively instead of getting an actual job.
I don't think it's sad more than being far fetched. But I guess Dorkin wanted to make a point about not being miserable forever.
"I never really cared for Magic."
"Yeah..."
"Too...Magic-y.."
How do you read the finale and come to that conclusion
I'm aware they're all shitty people on some level, and that most of their careers are either nonexistent or not as good as they think it is. Jerry's no exception since he was an enabler and a dickhead kid, even though he had more of a conscience, and in adulthood he's some homosexual who plays cards for pennies.
If you get paid to do it, it is an actual job. All of the guys except Bill were able to turn their hobbies into careers, though Jerry is the most well adjusted.
>Bill's the worst
At least Bill isn't a rapist like Pete
Ehh, Pete's a weirdo. Don't think he's a straight-up rapist but he's kinda pushing it given the line of work he's in (weird porn/slasher shit or something).
Bill just never felt the need to do anything worthwhile with his life, and instead just created a shitty excuse to sit around and indulge in nerd shit while still living with his mom, and is just as shitty as he used to be while the rest have moderated a bit. He took Joe to heart a bit too much and somehow managed to destroy Comic Con.
>Bill just never felt the need to do anything worthwhile with his life, and instead just created a shitty excuse to sit around and indulge in nerd shit while still living with his mom
people shit on Bill too much, pre-time skip Bill was leagues better than Josh and Pete. He was autistic and a c**t, yeah, but it was shown he was a leader because he could tard-wangle other nerds and knew when things went too far. Post-2014 Bill was actually a psycho though.
He was a leader mostly because he said so and due to the very tenuous hierarchy of their "club", but he got too autistic and manic too easily to be able to keep them consistently together, which is why they'd turn on him so quickly if he'd go too far. He was also the most sociopathic given the scene where Josh caught on fire and Bill only really cared when he started destroying his room in the process, and then sent a picture of him burning alive to humiliate him. He also never seemed to care about the consequences of his actions or show any genuine empathy or capacity to grow, just desperately clinging to anything that made him "superior" to everyone around him. He was intending to burn the comic book store and kill everyone in it during the meltdown story and afterwards he didn't give two shits about how he ruined a man's life and lost all his friends.
rape correction needed
It's been a while since I read it, but I remember him carrying weighted dice early on and bragging about ripping off kids. That put him in an instant scumbag category. While freaks, I don't remember Josh or Pete being that petty early on.
dunno, i always struggle to see the EC as true scumbags because they are teens and teens are normally buttholes. I wish it stayed as a comedy about morons getting into shenanigans like ''It's Always Sunny'' instead of trying to be a deep look into the toxic side of the nerd culture.
I'm kinda struggling to find something shitty Josh did to Bill or the other guys. He basically ruined his relationship with his parents throughout the course of the series and almost killed his mom accidentally. Meanwhile Bill fricks everyone else over as he pleases, abuses his young brother and seems to make life harder for his recently divorced mom without caring.
Josh broke Bills Boba Fett
That whole deal was a mess anyway, they both suffered for being shitty kids and the only one who ended up happy was fricking Joe.
You mean Josh broke Josh's Boba Fett that Bill wrongly claimed. Josh was the winner of that contest.
>answer a question wrong
>n-no that means you won
But he didn't answer wrong, it was Jerry who was wrong. Josh later provided proof that he was right.
>picrel
It’s interesting to me that Dorkin opted to make bill’s nose look more flat and similar to Pete’s for the cartoon rather than the more defined one he has in the comics, with the wider nostrils. I would help keep his “bill-ness” even in a simpler style
i never realized they had different noses, nice touch
They all had their designs simplified for animation, early adult swim was low budget as shit, he was already pushing it by having traditional animation rather than the lazy flash shit that defined their initial offerings
>kinda pushing it
I think fricking girls "so whacked out they don't know what's going on" is more than pushing it
If the story were to continue he'd get Metoo'd or some shit, probably. Or he'd find some way to do it while having plausible deniability.
Bill hates women too much to rape them.
The boys don't start getting individual personalities until like the 4th or 5th installment, Jerry being a prick then doesn't mean as much
What would a 4 Craigs crossover look like?
Fujos ruine it
Have any of you fujos talked to any nerdy boys yet?
Dating one currently
He’s got over 10,000 hours logged in gmod
What drives a man to have that many hours in Garry's mod of all games
SFM vids?
He mostly does time intensive RP stuff, usually themed around dystopian or post apocalyptic scenarios. Unfortunately neither post apoc or gmod RP interests me very much so I can’t vouch for how fun it is, but he seems to enjoy it.
He looks most like Jerry btw, just with glasses.
Yeah but him being a psycho maniac is what gets the fangirls horny. Girls are into evil crazy bastard characters, of course they’re going to make the arrogant self serving psycho the “hot” one
Yeah, but Bill's a total sperg who can't communicate with people similar to him, much less normal people.
Nice. What's he like? Have you scored with him yet?[/spoiller]
Been dating one for 8 years.
Congratulations I guess. Must be nice to be with someone who actually cares about you for so long, but then again I wouldn't actually know how that feels.
You'll find somebody someday.
That's what they've all been saying to me for years
Have you guys ever watched MTV Downtown? The Con episode specifically?
It's funny to see how some stuff changed and some others stayed the same.
How you filthy fujos haven't ruin Milk and Cheese yet? They are just as cute as thoss nerd frickers.
Fujo culture can't even get into the fandon right...
Milk and Cheese aren't very rapeable. If you try to dom them, they'll probably just quote Kung Fu and the Man From U.N.C.L.E at you before pulling out a dentist drill and forcefully lobotomizing you until the only word you can say is "Humphrey Bogart"
>Bill and Josh drive a TV home shopping host into lunacy
That was the closest thing those two had to a wholesome moment
If I was to make a two season Eltingville TV show, I'd make that story the finale of the first season to then really ramp up the darkness later.
I realized later how they changed Bill's younger sibling from a younger brother he bullies into giving him money for the Boba Fett toy to a goth girl that kicks him in the balls in the intro.
It's pretty funny how they're able to unite against this poor dude and then just casually watch a show together over the phone. They needed moments like this to show that they don't just want to kill each other.
Reading it in highschool it felt like such an accurate take even years later in like 2010.
Guys who actually gave a shit, fought, bickered, and seethed like those guys.
10/10 great book
what would a female, western version of EC be like?
>fujo/weeb girl
>smelly furry
>really rancid goth lesbian chick
>autistic girl
Fem!Josh makes my peepee hard
Why the frick does fem Bill look like a friend I know?
Is she hot?
She is a meh.
Of course no.
"Meh" is hot enough for me
Can I have her number?
FemPete us best though. Imagine having a horror fantatic woman who likes to read yaoi.
Oh yeah? What's he like?
How do you think the series would work out if it took place today where they're all Twitter users or nerdy Reddit söyboys
Not sure if they'd be consoomers tbh. They'd probably just use Twitter to thirst over girls/critique whatever new thing they don't approve of.
They'd 100% be consoomers, it was the underlying theme of the comic. The pilot was all about Bill and Josh fighting over an expensive Boba Fett doll
I actually have an eltingville t shirt, funny enough the eBay listing only had like a single size XXL so it’s comically big on me. It’s one of my prized possessions
Is it official or a weird reprint?
The listing claimed it was from the 90s, and the texture/fruit of the loom logo seems to check out as a legit vintage T shirt. (I also have a milk and cheese one, but it’s clearly a cheaper reprint from the quality of the shirt and the ink). It could absolutely still be a bootleg, but if so it’s a pretty nice bootleg.
I would've removed the little moron nerd who wants to be a part of their group, and the little sister. This isnt the 90's, we don't need annoying kid characters in adult cartoons.
I liked the little moron because the world's so cruel to him. He's like Dorkwinkle or something. I think they took the abused younger sibling that Bill had and made a new character out of him to make room for the spunky goth girl.
Evidently they were holdovers from another project of Dorkin's called Tyrone's Inferno.
It’s no Rusty Brown, that’s for sure. Pretty sure a few people posting here might be though
An interesting thing about old nerd culture as depicted in EC and now is how undifferentiated it was. Someone into any nerd stuff was expected to know everything about all nerd stuff, whereas now interests are so specialized. You wouldn't expect someone who, say, likes X-Men comics to automatically be able to name all the actors in Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla, but the EC crew does.
Back then we had standards, now it's all people whining about not being including, claiming they're a fan of games they never played but watch someone else stream, never reading a book or comic and just watching some other moron talk about them on youtube, and so on
It seems more moronic to expect people to know everything about everything. Why can't someone just like comics and not give a shit about Godzilla movies or whatever? The EC guys' insistence on knowing pointless shit is moronic.
>you can't just be well rounded and have multiple interests, you have to be a boring autist and focus on one thing
>well rounded and have multiple interests,
Autists demanding you know minutiae about their obsessions isn't being well-rounded. I suspect you're one them.
>you must be this strawman that I just fabricated
I accept your concession
Strawman for a strawman, my friend. Try making a real argument to get a real response. Go head.
>anon degenerates into mindless "no u" babbling and claims no one else is making an argument
>all because he couldn't successfully rebutt my position
How embarrassing for you
That's not an argument. Try again, I know you can do it.
Oh, so you went with the autistic repeating phrase defense after getting blown out
Responding with "not an argument" again is just another concession and proves you aren't worth another reply
Looks like I win, then. You're pretending not to engage to cover for not having anything to say. Thanks! I accept your concession.
Yes, it is moronic, that's the entire point of the comic, you're meant to pity them
It was partly because back then, mainstream superhero adaptations were harder to come by, so genre TV/film of any kind was the closest some people were ever going to get. Obviously, fandoms can and did overlap, but for a lot of people, they needed anything they could get to scratch that itch. Roger Corman's The Raven from 1963 is still the closest we'll ever get to seeing Vincent Price play Dr. Strange, and for a more recent example, in 2005, the scenes in Asgard in Son of The Mask were the high point if you were a Thor fan.
I think it was easier to be into shit because there was so much less of it and some things were just inaccessible. Like, there was at least a core canon of shit you had to be read up on to have your opinion taken seriously. It went too far too often, but 'fans' now don't even have to watch the show.
I think the difficulty in obtaining things forced the people who tried to be serious about them. Now everything is just a click away, it requires no effort to get into anything so no one cares about anything.
There was more investment, but I think it was because if you were into x, y and z were natural things to follow it up with and people appreciated the medium as a whole. But there was also nowhere near as much variety.
Can these two gays get a room. Well, I guess it is fitting for an eltingville thread
I wonder what the EC guys would be like in the age of social media.
Someone upthread mentioned that back in the 90s, you hung out with people just because they happened to share your interests, not because you particularly liked them. As an oldgay that was definitely true, you just didn't have any other choice if you wanted to talk about your hobbies. Do kids today do this? I feel like it'd be easy to find people online to share your interests with now, so there's less need to stick around with buttholes you hate just for that reason.
I end up hating everyone I talk to, so I think hanging out with buttholes you don’t like still applies in some cases
My interests are broad enough that I can sift for people who I can stand being around.
Conversely my interests were too niche for me to actually find anyone to talk with in the first place. Being ridiculously introverted might have something to do with it as well.
people lament the loss of nerd culture or missing out but it's just rose tinted glasses. it sucked being into niche shit in the 80's and 90's. some aspects were nice but it was mostly just making due with what was available. now i can lean into my specific interests like tokusatsu, retro gaming, and kung fu films and find dedicated communities and youtube channels that are small but have a thriving community. yes we are being bombarded with content but you just have to feel around and learn your tastes so you can find your own niche to be a part of.
>Also why do they drive so shitty?
Its a side effect of how culture develops in cities vs the country but spread across the entire state due to the highways.
Long story short in the olden days out in the country when everyone lived on a farm social events with others were to be savored and you likely went at least a week without seeing people outside your family so when you did meet others is was something more special and so talks went on longer.
In the cities you were and still are surrounded by people constantly so many with their own lives and their own shit going on that stopping to talk with some random person takes up time you would rather spend with people you do like or doing something else.
So with the introduction of vehicles the pace of life carried over people want to go to other places and want to get there Now vs a culture of taking your time and enjoying things.
And once again with the introduction the the highways culture was able to spread quickly and the wide tracts on paved road out in the desert make great areas to just go all out in way that rural roads or curvy east coast roads can't offer.
This is compounded by the only way of surviving in a environment full of aggressive drivers is to match them or be more aggressive so over generations Cali drivers have become some of the worst drivers in the country.
I think you could just boil that whole post down to "living in the city is more hectic than living in the suburbs/country"
Yeah but my autism forbids not giving out constant analogies and overexplaining