>Spider-Man x Spider-Gwen YouTube videos using Fortnite models
>get millions of views each
>all other Spider-Gwen videos only get 100-200k at most
Is this the most popular Marvel ship that never happened officially even once?
Why won't Marvel give fans what they want
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As always, b***hes love Spider-Man. The REAL Spider-Man.
I wonder, would people have liked Pre-Spiderverse Miles more under different conditions?
No other possible Spider-man succesor gets this level of criticism, they all seem to be decently liked by fans
Is it just because Miles is black? It certainly seems that way, but it also doesn't make sense considering people liked Spider-Punk and the several latino Spider-people so racism as an answer just feels too simple.
He's a Poochie it really is that simple. He's very obviously "the Spider-Man is now black and you have to accept that and love it!!" whereas everyone else kind of exists and does their own thing without trying to sell you some ideology (except Web Weaver but he's not in anything yet). You don't have to be racist to find that sort of obvious forced push fake and obnoxious.
Peter's unironically blacker than Miles.
>co-created by a israeli man who insisted that the character be white
>forced to grow up before his time, losing his uncle to gun violence and his best friend to drugs
>Japan loves him, influenced both tokusatsu and the mecha genre, leaving his mark on them forever
Peter is a man of the people.
>tokusatsu and the mecha genre
how tf did spiderman influence mecha
Look up Japanese Spider-Man Wikipedia
>Peter is a man of the people.
This is one of reason I hate miles. Peter used to be related to every nerdy kid irrespective of race .But Everyone started to see his white skin after miles appeared.
>Peter used to be related to every nerdy kid
No.
how underage are you? Be honest.
I'm grown, dude.
>Is it just because Miles is black
That's certainly the reason for some people, but for most it's that Miles is
>boring
>completely and totally reliant on Peter for basically every aspect of his character that isn't his superpowers, like he doesn't even have a single unique villain to himself
>speaking of powers, they keep giving him new storybreaking ones in a blatant attempt to make people think he's cool
>Is it just because Miles is black? it also doesn't make sense considering people liked Spider-Punk
picrel isn't spider punks personality like it is miles'
OG Miles was absolute dogshit. Fans can tell when an author is making a poochie as
said.
Miles was made to be a frick-you to spiderman fans, and that caused a lot of fan backlash. His nothingburger personality and piss-poor storylines were awful and the run died with a wet fart. Sony essentially rewrote the character for the movie and that's what most people actually like.
Spider-Verse Miles is equally shit and doesn't address any of the core problems, there was just enough other stuff for people to focus on so they didn't notice
>No other possible Spider-man succesor gets this level of criticism
Ben Reilly got the same level of criticism back in the 90s, the difference is that Marvel pivoted and brought back Peter instead of doubling down
And even then, Ben gave us two kino costumes while every Miles costume has ranged from meh to dogshit.
>Is it just because Miles is black? It certainly seems that way
If it seems that way to you, then you've never been much of a comicbook reader.
Miles is like one of the most embarassingly written pass-the-torch successor characters in the history of comicbooks. And due to Peter's popularity, Miles didn't even succeed in taking his place as intended. But the consequences of the attempt still mars the character to this day.
>Why won't Marvel give fans what they want
Because real fans what Peter and MJ back together. Not zoomer ADHD pick of the day.
ASM is such a tiny fraction of the Spider-Man fandom that I don't even know why the editorial are being such gays about it, though I don't mind seeing Peter in other pairings outside of ASM.
No one really does, but the editorial are literally petty pieces of shits.
They need to frick off already.
Anyone still into ASM is a masochist, editorial is just giving them what they want
>Because real fans what Peter and MJ back together.
Who cares what 35+ year old boomers want, they don't even buy comics anymore. Besides, they can go buy Hickman's USM.
Modern fans want Spider-Gwen date Miles.
>Modern fans want Spider-Gwen date Miles.
Bendis, you're not representative of modern fans.
Hilarious coming from an out-of-touch Boomer like yourself
Miles getting with Gwen is just a really blatant way of how he always gets Peter's sloppy seconds and can't come into his own.
Nope. That pairing happened because of cuck fetish of bendis.
We've gotten to the point where shipping Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy is a hot take.
>We've gotten to the point where shipping Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy is a hot take.
It should be. Peter must not date teenagers, he's almost 35 at this point.
He's in his 20s, and Spider-Gwen's an adult. They aged her down for Spider-Verse.
No need to respond, it's the resident Milestroony. He's not getting engagement in his own thread, so he came here.
Comics Peter is 30 or 31 now, isn't he? They did his 28th birthday back in 2014.
It's a sliding timeline, idiots. Characters stay the same age until editorial says otherwise. They literally erased his entire marriage from continuity. Do you honestly they'd allow him to age past his 20s?
>He's in his 20s
He was in his late 20s (28-29) during OMD, he's clearly 31-32 now, maybe even older. And Spider-Gwen is 18-19 max. Does this age difference not bother you?
Just adjust the ages, problem solved.
>And Spider-Gwen is 18-19 max
IE an adult. What's the problem?
>IE an adult. What's the problem?
>Why would it bother me when it doesn't bother tens of millions of people in relationships with that age combination in real life.
>they re both adults
Have you guys ever considered that this age difference can create a power imbalance in a relationship, which in turn can lead to exploitation, manipulation, or even emotional abuse? Plus, an 18-19 year old girl is still emotionally immature and has much less life experience than a 30 year old guy, and this can create an uneven dynamic that can hurt both parties, but especially the younger one. Also, brain development is not complete until 25, so it's kinda problematic for a fully grown man to groom a younger woman, don't you think so?
No, adults are responsible for themselves in both moral and legal ways
>No, adults are responsible for themselves in both moral and legal ways
Spider-Gwen is still a teenager, and Peter is already 30+. To make it work, you'd either have to make her older or make Peter younger, though that would probably require rebooting the entire Marvel universe to do what
suggests. Or maybe just leave it at that, have Spider-Gwen date Miles as it should be, and let Peter find his true love of his age group.
>Women are emotionally immature all the way into their 30s. It makes no difference.
Well, that's just pure sexism/misogyny on your side. Can't condone it, buddy. In fact, I condemn it.
That's all well and good Mr. Ulmer, but it's not gonna solve your three inch problem. Maybe your discord can help you with that, I wouldn't know.
>though that would probably require rebooting the entire Marvel universe to do what
suggests.
Not really, they wildly adjust the ages all the time even if it makes no sense, just toss her in the phantom zone for a couple of years or make her "experience time asynchronously"
>Or maybe just leave it at that, have Spider-Gwen date Miles as it should be
>as it should be
lol
lmao
>Plus, an 18-19 year old girl is still emotionally immature and has much less life experience than a 30 year old guy
Women are emotionally immature all the way into their 30s. It makes no difference.
>18-19 year old girl is still emotionally immature
why can they vote then?
>why can they vote then?
Because voting is legal, non-sexual activity, involving no intimacy and potential harm to others, whereas relationships and sex, especially between older men and younger women, inevitably involve these factors. There are certain ethical implications in a relationship with such a difference in age and power, even if it's legal.
Hey man, I'm really sorry that your fetish thread isn't getting the engagement you want so you felt the need to come here, that must suck.
Now make sure to go bump your thread the moment it reaches page 10, okay buddy?
>There are certain ethical implications in a relationship with such a difference in age
Nah...
Doesn't matter.
Legal adult.
Can go to jail, can't drink, get married, frick whoever she wants, can't smoke (21? Seriously?)
If they wanted, they'd make the age 25 for everything. But notice how we haven't yet, because no one would vote on it as a good thing. It'd never pass legally in a vote, they'd 2020 Biden it.
Why would it bother me when it doesn't bother tens of millions of people in relationships with that age combination in real life.
Also she's gotta be at least 20-21 by now with how much shit happened since her introduction, if they can keep her under 20 that long and pretend it's fine they can quickly age her up and pretend it's fine too, wouldn't be the first time.
>image article
How does that work
There's plenty of teen Peters in media knocking about, Sony wants to make MCU Spider-Man 4 into a multiverse movie again to make their billions but I know a way they can do that without the multiverse.
no?
they re both adults
why would it?
Since we are getting her permanent stay as her father in 616 with all of the two trying to adapt to the fact that they were previously dead here, we are already getting slides of her aging in 616.
Marvel isn't giving her to Miles either, there is 100% chance they are going to have him and Blade's daughter be a thing.
spider man has the same age as cyclops
This is the exactly the type of mentality that killed LOTR and Star Wars lmao
>Modern fans want Spider-Gwen date Miles.
the lack of self-awareness is funny
Define real grandpa. Your line will be dead soon. What will Marvel do with real fans corpses then? Who will they sell comics to?
Does MJ even have any powers? Though I will admit gwen getting them was just a stupid ass pull.
Why did Dad Peter have absolutely no reaction to meeting Spider Gwen? Seems like seeing a version of your dead girlfriend whose death traumatized you would be a natural reaction.
Because it would be too much baggage for a film that’s about Miles.
The Spider-Verse films should have Peter as the protagonist btw
Because the multiverse has to bend and contort out of shape in order for everything about Miles to not come off as utterly ridiculous
because the film is ultimately about Miles and it would give too much focus on Peter and it was already kinda close to it as is
>character is so bad even his mere existence and presence negates good stories and writing from happening around him
Truly an achievement in subversion
>because the film is ultimately about Miles
It was so weird for me to see the movie. Because none of the advertising where I live featured Miles front and centre, and had Peter on most of the posters.
And since I watched the movie practically blind, I was surprised to learn that it was actually a Miles movie and even more surprised when I realized that Peter was barely in it at all.
That's how they got people to see the movie in the first place. If the movie was upfront about what it was, way less people would have watched it.
Even then, Miles needed to be propped up by all these alt universe characters in his own origin story. He can't even support his own existence.
Dad Peter is based on Tobey Spider-Man and Gwen never died in the Tobeyverse.
ATSV establishes that all Gwens die
No it didn’t. She’s specifically says the ones that fall in love with spider-men do
At that point, he had
>randomly been transported to another universe
>was "glitching out" in very painful manners
>found out that he was dead (and blonde)
>had to deal with a brand new kid just trying to figure this stuff out
>nearly got mounted by a TG version of Doc Ock
I think finding out that there's an alternate universe version of your dead girlfriend is practically normal at that point.
He still cared about seeing MJ and aunt May
>using the youtube algorithm as evidence of popularity
Anything involving spider man will obviously get promoted infinitely more than spider gwen.
She's in videos with Miguel and Miles which also have "Spider-Man" in the title but don't get a fraction of the views of the Peter videos
They just look great together. Simple as.
Youtubers don't know about the best Gwen pairing yet. They'll learn.
spider-gwen is such a shit character. she's better as a normal girl.
Marvel should bite the bullet and have them together now that Spider-Gwen's in 616, even if it's temporary. It could also work as a kick in the balls for MJ, to remind her how much of a dumb b***h she's being right now.
I got USM for my Peter/MJ married life fix, so might as well do something fun for ASM.
They won't though, because they're cowards and they hate Peter.
Imreally have no idea why they're still letting Zeb Wells write
Is it just because his name rhymes with Web Sells?
First day in the office he hit them with the "Zeb Wells Sells Web Well" zinger and was made the main writer immediately. To this day it remains his greatest writing achievement.
Why is Spider-Man cheating on Mary Jane?
Why is Ghost-Spider cheating on Spin?
I'm five years old and what is this?
Gwen has died.
NO! WE WILL NOT MAKE A VERSION OF HEAVY IS DEAD WITH SPIDERMAN!
>never happened officially
ENTER
>Lego-Man has more game than current ASM Peter
Grim.
Do Gwen and MJ fight over Peter here like in Romita?
Crazy how Bendis can take multiple giga-shits on the IP and Marvel chooses to venerate them instead of erase and forget them
How much of a soulless, spiteful little shithead do you have to be in order to be given control of such a beloved character and then just shit all over him?
Dudes out there working the dream jobs of young comic fans worldwide while having nothing but contempt for the shit they're working on.
honestly if gwen isn‘t written like a girlboss b***h that ship would be super cute. especially if she is still new to the superhero thing and kind of a screwup. i don‘t know any romances were the female love intrest is also the comic relief. sounds so cute and fun
There's literally no point in making this character a "Gwen Stacy" if you're not exploring her relationship with a Peter Parker
>captcha DTKO
Seriously, what a waste.
here's a video from the same channel
>only 250k
Familygays and turtlecels blown the frick out
This is because of the Andrew Garfield movies. Say what you want about them but the one thing they did really good was the romantic subplot. Compared to shit MJ in the original Spider-Mans and black shit MJ in the MCU, Garfield and Stone were A game
I'd venture to say that the romance in those movies was the best romance in the Spiderman IP in general for the past couple decades honestly.
She belongs to Lizardpete
>RyanGosling_Bladerunner2049(screencapture).jpg
Peak eroticism
they forgot the back spider
Checked the catalogue, and there's a Milestroony thread with a single guy replying to himself with fetish fanfiction.
It's getting really sad at this point.
Is polygamy against marvels code of conduct? Can't spiderman just have multiple girls?
Depends, they teased a Logan x Jean x Scott polycule multiple times but only because it implied gayshit and not a harem, so if they make comic Gwen trans there's a chance
bullshit
Youtube should hide view counts. Nobody care if some videos have numbers
yes make the website even shittier because... just cause, great thinking there champ
Why are peter cucks so pathetic
Legit question
they should be asking for mj/peter but instead they are crying at the Black dude with the generic spider girl o instead
They are so dogshit kinda makes me glad OMD is a thing because just like Peter these homosexuals never grow up
milesgay, no one cares about your life.
>milesgay
more like i love to make fun of pathetic petercels
its no wonder why marlel never revert OMD with pathetic incels like you giving them a free pass
pathetic incels that enjoy the on/off of felicia to feed their shitty fantasies
Compelling argument, Mr. Ulmer. Your discord must be very proud.
They are cute together.
so how strong would there kid be they both have spider powers
The kid is just a full on spider
Ultimate Spiderman not dead and Miles not being Spiderman?!
Or can we kill Miles now? It's been like 15 years since his debut! We need a death!
>pass the torch
never happening because people just love to rush and marvel is legit allergic about legacies characters
what they did to Peter with OMD is beyond pathetic but it could not be another way because that's the waste of oxygen that reads spiderman.
Miles comic book run was legit garbage and only because other real good creative mind took this character and put them on a vision is the reason why this character still alive at all.
It's to bad Spider-Gwen only buck breaks black bussy. Peter can just watch from the ceiling.
>"It's the white man's burden, Gwen"
>Peter turns directly to the camera