It was meh, especially with this soish SAVE THE PLANET, OIL NAZI IS BAD theme. It still seems to me that Greenpeace paid extra for the creation of such films
I was absolutely shocked to find that it seems to have objectively improved with age. It was seen as very gimmicky on release from my experience but I don't think it comes across that way at all anymore and really the opposite.
I love it and it's an underrated cult classic.
It's a childhood classic of mine up there with Treasure Planet, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Titan A.E., and Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas.
People back then just saw it for the Final Fantasy brand and the CGI.
Nowadays, you're going to notice the other aspects a lot more, like the story.
Not to mention this kind of animated film is quite rare, and attempts of making more teen-oriented action animated films similar to this like Atlantis and Treasure Planet have bombed at the box office.
This kind of animated film really only started to get popular with Spider-Verse.
The textures are alright but the human characters' facial animation has aged. It's a solid movie but has fricking NOTHING to do with Final Fantasy
I really wish they called it Gaia: The Spirits Within and plastered "From the creators of Final Fantasy" all over the marketing.
They can sell video games without relying on the Final Fantasy brand back then, as can be seen with Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, and Xenogears.
If you made a Final Fantasy movie and the only thing that lets viewers know they are watching a Final Fantasy movie is the the title, you did something wrong.
thats because the average person is moronic, it's a lot like ff1 in many ways
It was meh, especially with this soish SAVE THE PLANET, OIL NAZI IS BAD theme. It still seems to me that Greenpeace paid extra for the creation of such films
like this moron who likely doesn't know shit about final fantasy
I remember literally nothing of the movie, but there's this ambient song, that samples it, and it always bothers me, for some reason: "I'm scanning the city for the seventh spirit."
I have a soft spot for it but I think it's mostly nostalgia, it's not a great film by any means. I like that it's kind of spiritual for a sci-fi movie and the score is incredibly underrated. It's one of those movies where the behind the scenes stuff surrounding it is more fascinating than the movie itself
My favourite thing was when they were doing those CGI Resident Evil movies that were going for more realistic-looking characters but they still moved like cartoons because they were being mocapped by extremely over-the-top japanese performers.
beautiful movie, that sadly couldnt have been made without attaching it a name that had zero relation with.
Ghost aliens in a meteorite is a genius concept and the alien designs were very original.
The way they finally kill them never made much sense but I can umderstand it.
Also the ending is probably my favourite one in cinema, the enemy defeated, the dead boyfriend, the eagle flying with that music, truly mesmerizing.
The weird thing it it wasn't the result of some branding deal; it was entirely created in-house by Square. There was no good reason whatsoever to attach the Final Fantasy name to it.
it was a very bold move for a jap comlany to make such a expensive and niche movie in the first place, so they put the name to atract viewers, at that tine final fantasy was a worlswide phenomenon and even my parents knew about it, without me even having a play station.
nope, and this is the film that torpedoed the company and forced them to merge with enix
before this, square was at the top of the world
final fantasy, a bunch of different RPGs with great plots, they even experimented with side shooting with einhander, fighting with tobal and even a racing game
now... all square does is anime rpgs or the occasional puzzle or rhythm game and they're all the fricking same
>nope, and this is the film that torpedoed the company and forced them to merge with enix
How is this false narrative still being perpetuated? Square was going to merge with Enix way before Spirits Within, the movie flopping actually threatened to stop that from happening because Square's numbers looked bad momentarily and Enix got scared. Then Square recovered immediately when FFX made a frickton of money and they were able to do the merger. The idea that Spirits Within somehow sunk Square is a lie, the only thing that went down was their film division.
The merger with Enix had nothing to do with them going to shit in the past 10 years. They were completely fine until the PS2 was alive, then the whole ff13 thing, ff14 bombing so hard it had to be rebooted, and kh3 taking 13 years to be released drastically changed their approach at development.
People say it has nothing to do with Final Fantasy but it was from a time when Final Fantasy meant more than just shoving chocobos and moogles and endless nostalgiabait into everything like they do now. There are plenty of similarities to Sakaguchi's previous joints on a thematic level
Sakaguchi almost killed the entire company with this kino, pretty based move if you ask me
>Sakaguchi almost killed the entire company with this kino, pretty based move if you ask me
Sakaguchi nearly killing off Square by blowing so much of the budget on rendering the Thriller dance. Incredibly based.
to be fair, it wouldnt have kill them to make the villain have a sword, or put some magic attack or a chocobo here and there.
But even before ffvii some guys in square wanted a realistic sci fi, the initial develoment of ffvii had a detective in New York finding the cause of a plague, eventually this was turned into parasite eve and the spirits within.
>to be fair, it wouldnt have kill them to make the villain have a sword, or put some magic attack or a chocobo here and there.
Agreed, although they probably went for a blander sci-fi style because they thought it would appeal to a wider audience. That's ultimately where the movie fails, it mixes looks and characters of murrican style with a pretty out there world and setting. Of they put stuff like magic and airships maybe it would have bombed anyway but it would have a much bigger cult following.
It was meh, especially with this soish SAVE THE PLANET, OIL NAZI IS BAD theme. It still seems to me that Greenpeace paid extra for the creation of such films
Where did you get this moronic idea from? The planet was ruined by the meteor strike, there really isn't an environmental message.
The idea of ghost that can clip through solid objects and instakill you by touching you is a really neat horror/sci-fi concept that should be utilised more.
It was pretty dull considering all the work they put into it. I watched it again last year, thinking I'd see its goodness but it's just a really average forgettable movie.
Reportedly, in the work print, right before Gray dies, Aki tells him that he must not die because she is pregnant with his child. The audience at preview screenings hated this plot point so much that it was out for the thatrical release
Some trolls or autists trying to say that it shares some similarities with Final Fantasy. Regardless of themes, every Final Fantasy is heroes on an adventure. This is like wanting to make a film about life in London and you say it's a Bond film just because you want the brand recognition.
its not that good, but it has soul and it helped advance animation and rendering of humans in computer graphics
they should have kept the original name as 'GAIA'
since it has near nothing to do with FF
think that's exactly what it was called originally
unfortunately not many people would be interested if it kept the name, so they changed it
but it does fit the film betterer
I like this movie, it fits as a final fantasy story that isn't a video game. I remember as a kid wondering why there weren't any summons and magic but now that I'm older I get it. I wish I ever had time for grindy JRPGs anymore because they are kind of cool but I'll probably never play one again
I mostly know her as voicing Mulan.
I always noticed as a kid that Aki Ross in this film had the exact same voice as Mulan, which is one of my favourite Disney animated films.
when I was young, I didn't really pay attention to film credits
also I never saw mulan cause that's for cootie carriers
she's the hottest 60 year old woman though
I give her 3 thumbs up
the lore of the movie is well established and makes sense (from a sci-fi perspective).
they never contradict their own rules.
those alone make it better thanuck 95% of American sci-fi movies from that period.
They could have at least tried to make it resemble Final Fantasy in some way. I know 7 & 8 and arguably even 6 had sci-fi elements going into this but they were still fantasy at their core.
It was decent but not worth a rewatch imo. I bet that animation aged like shit.
>I bet that animation aged like shit.
It remains superior to any and everything ever produced by Pixar.
if only this shitshow had as much soul as 2000s pixar
I really enjoyed my rewatch. Some great concepts and a very bleak story. You just have to see it as a science fiction tale and not a final fantasy one
It was meh, especially with this soish SAVE THE PLANET, OIL NAZI IS BAD theme. It still seems to me that Greenpeace paid extra for the creation of such films
Watch Gantz:0 instead. Is everything You wanted from this film in a way
I did, I wish it had the alien rape.
actually a very decent scifi movie.
I was absolutely shocked to find that it seems to have objectively improved with age. It was seen as very gimmicky on release from my experience but I don't think it comes across that way at all anymore and really the opposite.
I love it and it's an underrated cult classic.
It's a childhood classic of mine up there with Treasure Planet, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Titan A.E., and Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas.
People back then just saw it for the Final Fantasy brand and the CGI.
Nowadays, you're going to notice the other aspects a lot more, like the story.
Not to mention this kind of animated film is quite rare, and attempts of making more teen-oriented action animated films similar to this like Atlantis and Treasure Planet have bombed at the box office.
This kind of animated film really only started to get popular with Spider-Verse.
I really wish they called it Gaia: The Spirits Within and plastered "From the creators of Final Fantasy" all over the marketing.
They can sell video games without relying on the Final Fantasy brand back then, as can be seen with Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, and Xenogears.
If you made a Final Fantasy movie and the only thing that lets viewers know they are watching a Final Fantasy movie is the the title, you did something wrong.
thats because the average person is moronic, it's a lot like ff1 in many ways
like this moron who likely doesn't know shit about final fantasy
>it's a lot like ff1 in many ways
No.....it's not
I remember literally nothing of the movie, but there's this ambient song, that samples it, and it always bothers me, for some reason: "I'm scanning the city for the seventh spirit."
Clunky direction, shitty writing.. it was never good.
The textures are alright but the human characters' facial animation has aged. It's a solid movie but has fricking NOTHING to do with Final Fantasy
I have a soft spot for it but I think it's mostly nostalgia, it's not a great film by any means. I like that it's kind of spiritual for a sci-fi movie and the score is incredibly underrated. It's one of those movies where the behind the scenes stuff surrounding it is more fascinating than the movie itself
>score is incredibly underrated.
Is it by Uemetsu?
Did they mocap anything? Surely it was keyframe animation, right?
Hearing Steve Buscemi's voice come from a thing that is just a generic handsome man model who does not resemble Steve Buscemi in any way is just wrong
it's all keyframe but they used a ton of direct reference footage. same than with Gollum.
My favourite thing was when they were doing those CGI Resident Evil movies that were going for more realistic-looking characters but they still moved like cartoons because they were being mocapped by extremely over-the-top japanese performers.
beautiful movie, that sadly couldnt have been made without attaching it a name that had zero relation with.
Ghost aliens in a meteorite is a genius concept and the alien designs were very original.
The way they finally kill them never made much sense but I can umderstand it.
Also the ending is probably my favourite one in cinema, the enemy defeated, the dead boyfriend, the eagle flying with that music, truly mesmerizing.
The weird thing it it wasn't the result of some branding deal; it was entirely created in-house by Square. There was no good reason whatsoever to attach the Final Fantasy name to it.
it was a very bold move for a jap comlany to make such a expensive and niche movie in the first place, so they put the name to atract viewers, at that tine final fantasy was a worlswide phenomenon and even my parents knew about it, without me even having a play station.
has squaresoft even made a good game recently
nope, and this is the film that torpedoed the company and forced them to merge with enix
before this, square was at the top of the world
final fantasy, a bunch of different RPGs with great plots, they even experimented with side shooting with einhander, fighting with tobal and even a racing game
now... all square does is anime rpgs or the occasional puzzle or rhythm game and they're all the fricking same
>nope, and this is the film that torpedoed the company and forced them to merge with enix
How is this false narrative still being perpetuated? Square was going to merge with Enix way before Spirits Within, the movie flopping actually threatened to stop that from happening because Square's numbers looked bad momentarily and Enix got scared. Then Square recovered immediately when FFX made a frickton of money and they were able to do the merger. The idea that Spirits Within somehow sunk Square is a lie, the only thing that went down was their film division.
The merger with Enix had nothing to do with them going to shit in the past 10 years. They were completely fine until the PS2 was alive, then the whole ff13 thing, ff14 bombing so hard it had to be rebooted, and kh3 taking 13 years to be released drastically changed their approach at development.
People say it has nothing to do with Final Fantasy but it was from a time when Final Fantasy meant more than just shoving chocobos and moogles and endless nostalgiabait into everything like they do now. There are plenty of similarities to Sakaguchi's previous joints on a thematic level
Sakaguchi almost killed the entire company with this kino, pretty based move if you ask me
So he could finally focus on his true ambition, hip hop.
Reminder that this was made my the same people who made the actual movie:
>Sakaguchi almost killed the entire company with this kino, pretty based move if you ask me
Sakaguchi nearly killing off Square by blowing so much of the budget on rendering the Thriller dance. Incredibly based.
It was always good. Just some gays mad it didn't have Sephiroth and chocobos in it.
to be fair, it wouldnt have kill them to make the villain have a sword, or put some magic attack or a chocobo here and there.
But even before ffvii some guys in square wanted a realistic sci fi, the initial develoment of ffvii had a detective in New York finding the cause of a plague, eventually this was turned into parasite eve and the spirits within.
>to be fair, it wouldnt have kill them to make the villain have a sword, or put some magic attack or a chocobo here and there.
Agreed, although they probably went for a blander sci-fi style because they thought it would appeal to a wider audience. That's ultimately where the movie fails, it mixes looks and characters of murrican style with a pretty out there world and setting. Of they put stuff like magic and airships maybe it would have bombed anyway but it would have a much bigger cult following.
Where did you get this moronic idea from? The planet was ruined by the meteor strike, there really isn't an environmental message.
The idea of ghost that can clip through solid objects and instakill you by touching you is a really neat horror/sci-fi concept that should be utilised more.
kind of unfair though isnt it?
It was pretty dull considering all the work they put into it. I watched it again last year, thinking I'd see its goodness but it's just a really average forgettable movie.
What the frick did this have to do with final fantasy?
Reportedly, in the work print, right before Gray dies, Aki tells him that he must not die because she is pregnant with his child. The audience at preview screenings hated this plot point so much that it was out for the thatrical release
Some trolls or autists trying to say that it shares some similarities with Final Fantasy. Regardless of themes, every Final Fantasy is heroes on an adventure. This is like wanting to make a film about life in London and you say it's a Bond film just because you want the brand recognition.
Yes it was that bad. Story is pure Jap autism. Sure Roger Ebert praised the CGI but the lack of mocap make it extremely dated in today's standards.
its not that good, but it has soul and it helped advance animation and rendering of humans in computer graphics
they should have kept the original name as 'GAIA'
since it has near nothing to do with FF
>Gaia: The Spirits Within
That sounds like a kino title.
But people would probably compare it to Titan A.E., where the A.E. means After Earth.
think that's exactly what it was called originally
unfortunately not many people would be interested if it kept the name, so they changed it
but it does fit the film betterer
I like this movie, it fits as a final fantasy story that isn't a video game. I remember as a kid wondering why there weren't any summons and magic but now that I'm older I get it. I wish I ever had time for grindy JRPGs anymore because they are kind of cool but I'll probably never play one again
what surprised me was the main character was voiced by ming na wen
you know the booba fett woman
I mostly know her as voicing Mulan.
I always noticed as a kid that Aki Ross in this film had the exact same voice as Mulan, which is one of my favourite Disney animated films.
when I was young, I didn't really pay attention to film credits
also I never saw mulan cause that's for cootie carriers
she's the hottest 60 year old woman though
I give her 3 thumbs up
Watch the Street Fighter movie.
i need to have sex with her
she's married with kids, leave her alone
forget it has "Final Fantasy" in the title and it instantly becomes one of the best Sci-Fi movie from the 2000s.
>best
eeeh, that's a stretch
but it's not as bad as people say
square should have made a game to accompany it
the best character was easily this guy
the lore of the movie is well established and makes sense (from a sci-fi perspective).
they never contradict their own rules.
those alone make it better thanuck 95% of American sci-fi movies from that period.
They could have at least tried to make it resemble Final Fantasy in some way. I know 7 & 8 and arguably even 6 had sci-fi elements going into this but they were still fantasy at their core.