Very based.
The only thing that confuses me is that he sent her out on a pretty good episode with the The Doctor and Phlox trying to murder each other.
If you have a super-strong/durable race they would fill all the security spots on your fleet's ships. Anything less would be stupidity. Why the frick would you have anything other than Xelayans or Moclans in your goon squads? You don't make up your boarding parties in FTL out of Engi and Zoltans when there's some Mantis available.
Also: Love that Orville gives us more aliens amongst the crews too. The Trek Federation seems a human-centric organisation much like SW's Empire.
Yep, and one single episode of The Orville will be worth more than all the "official" Star Trek that has been shat out in the last 15 years.
And we'll have 10 of them.
No. >everyone bullies Isaac into killing himself >Mercer lets the crew walk all over him like a cuck and only enforced his authority once which he instantly backtracks on >No consequences for anyone and everyone still treat Isaac like shit at the end
>saved the Earth by sacrificing his own life
If it wasn't Isaac it would have just been a different Kaylon. Isaac saved all their lives at the cost of becoming an exile among his own race.
They should be treating him like a hero and the fact the crew can't see that and Mercer never enforces that knowledge upon them literally made me seethe throughout the episode.
I just mainlined the whole thing. Having just watched the Kalon invasion a few hours before the new season, I have to say it makes sense everyone hates his ass.
There's only two episodes that separate the invasion from the Kelly-time travel stuff. It seems Issac was just not there for those episodes other than the odd scene where he's in the ceremony in the mess hall.
I didn't rewatch the rest of the show but going into this episode it made me think that the big two-parter was the end of the season not mid-season. It really makes no sense.
The Kelly time-travel stuff was definitely intended to be last, but the two episodes between those and the Kaylon battles do seem to have been aired out of order.
I don't think it really does since they would all be dead if not for him.
They are supposed to be some super culturally advanced society. They were acting like a bunch of apes.
He actually didn't betray them. His mission was to scout for his home planet. He betrayed his home planet for them. If they had sent a different kaylon and not isaac to spy the Earth would have been destroyed.
Hating Isaac for what the KAylon did is literally racist.
Humans are nowhere near the worst society we see on the show. Remember the Reddit people? Hell, Moclans give all their kids sex changes and their idea of fun is throwing around a ball that spikes you through the hand.
>Moclans give all their kids sex changes
It was pretty fricking based how that episode took a stand against trannies like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That episode took a much more even keel than you remember. But yes, Mercer who serves as the show's moral mouthpiece was against the practice.
It's more of an analogue for modern circumcision than it is for any type of transgenderism though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That episode took a much more even keel than you remember.
I know, I'm mostly joking. They went the right way for approaching the topic, though, because it allowed the topic to be handled more neutrally. If the same material was handled by modern Star Trek they'd have just made the character out and out transgender and made it about convincing the BIGOT parent to accept the kid having surgery and just alienated half the audience.
So I don't really want to rewatch last season's finale, please someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of this >Orville goes to Kaylon world so Isaac can make his report on human behavior >Kaylon leadership decides that they should just frick the humans up >Isaac disagrees, is deactivated >Kaylon ships depart for Earth >Orville negotiates with white space muslims to team up and save their planets >big battle
Did I miss anything?
Isaac wasn't deactivated. They kept him around and he eventually betrayed the kaylon be EMPing the ship killing all them and himself but then Norm Mcdonal brought him back.
Really loving this new office drama by Seth McFarlane, especially with it's strong message of suicide prevention. Really, funny and gripping sci-fi. It only took me 3+ hrs to drudge through the entire episode.
There is an alternate universe in which they put McFarlane in charge of Star Trek to begin with, but that will never be your timeline. The alien women are sexy, and the berber carpet is soft and cool.
As much as I hate Alex Kurtzman, the Halo TV show had me going "if Alex Kurtzman was producing this I can't think of a single way he would have made it worse because this is that bad." I think Paramount + has a serious company culture problem that attracts hacks of this caliber and the studio simply refuses to demand better.
>Heavy subject handled well.
Only thing handled well was the holodeck scene where they acknowledge that bringing back dead people is kinda shitty. Otherwise, it was a tedious, melodramatic episode full of mostly unearned character bullshit that made me hate basically the entire crew and mistrust Isaac even more. He's entirely capable of blowing the entire crew out an airlock for autistic reasons for all we know. The only character who was not hate-able this episode was Lamar, and J. Lee is the worst fricking actor in the world.
Literally half a season (and 2+ years) late, "bitch", and most of it came out of the mouth of some literally who newgirl that nobody knows or cares about. Was hoping that she'd be a fun waifu but she's just some angry c**t. Why are they doing Kaylon epilogue now? And why are they doing it as shitty office drama? Frick this gay show.
makes a good point.
I can't remember if Union shields are (near-)skintight like NuTrek or a big bubble (like actual Trek): it's probably more forgivable if it's the former.
>Orville goes on hiatus >ST desperately tries to fill the void with a bunch of absolute crap shows >Orville comes back with a borderline TNG-style episode that actually feels like Star Trek
They just keep winning. Racist Ensign is cute. Interested in her character development
>Racist Ensign is cute.
initial headshots make her seem pretty but she's actually a hideous sticc goblin and her character is a hate-able c**t on wheels who is apparently half a mary sue.
Its some nonsense is what it is. Speaking of which, everything Isaac said when he was making up dumb technobabble in his suicide note was complete nonsense. They didn't even try to use words that might actually relate to the what they were talking about.
It...wasn't great at all to begin with, but did have moments, anon. Ignore the paid PR posters, it's ok to dislike shows that are poorly written.
The entire episode is really boring outside Norm Jello in a space suit. Cancer got Norm...
but I am not sure cancer can kill the cancer of The Snoreville. I will give it one more episode, then call it quits. I have no hopes whatsoever for it.
All you have to remember is that Isaac was a sleeper agent (without his knowledge, against his will) and when he got activated his race started a war with the Federation and lots of people got killed in the ensuing battle. Their ships were being boarded by robots that looked just like Isaac but were murderous. Then Isaac got reinstated as an officer on the Orville. They go over all of it in the episode.
Isaac knew what he was doing the whole time. The only difference between him and the other robots was that they had deliberately left him without the knowledge of how their builders had oppressed them. When he learned exactly how bad the Kaylon builders were he changed his mind because humans were not nearly as bad.
Oh, I guess I didn't remember it as well as I thought. I remembered him being a sleeper agent and getting activated suddenly, not being an active traitor. Makes more sense that people hate him so much with that in mind.
No hot babes? Dropped
They literally add a new hot babe every season.
>STAR TREK IS FINALLY SAVED
Yeah we know.
man they really just erased seths ex from all marketing huh
If you're talking about Halston Sage/Alara, she is in the OP's picture and she is back for season 3 apparently.
she is literally not in the OP's picture.
>he replaced his exs character with the exact same character
Not sure if based or cringe. Cheeky bastard
Very based.
The only thing that confuses me is that he sent her out on a pretty good episode with the The Doctor and Phlox trying to murder each other.
If you have a super-strong/durable race they would fill all the security spots on your fleet's ships. Anything less would be stupidity. Why the frick would you have anything other than Xelayans or Moclans in your goon squads? You don't make up your boarding parties in FTL out of Engi and Zoltans when there's some Mantis available.
Also: Love that Orville gives us more aliens amongst the crews too. The Trek Federation seems a human-centric organisation much like SW's Empire.
that show is fricking gay.
An especially weak episode of SNW this week.
It was the best one.
It's trash, and now that The Orville is back, I can stop pretending it isn't.
Orville will be gone again in two months, and we'll still be stuck with half a dozen bad Star Trek spinoffs.
Yep, and one single episode of The Orville will be worth more than all the "official" Star Trek that has been shat out in the last 15 years.
And we'll have 10 of them.
>shilling this desperately
kek
i had to turn this off I was cringing so bad when the blonde woman started lecturing the robot guy
this
>in memory of Norm Macdonald
>seems like he recorded his lines before he died
I miss Norm, but it’s good to see him back just one more time
based, hulu made a great decision bringing this back
seth macfarlane is the true heir to roddenberry
>textbook roastie still there instead of cute 5head waifu
Pass
She's a much better actress. I'd let her eat crackers in my bed and light her cigarettes for her.
based
Best Star Trek since Enterprise.
Not a high bar to clear.
I like this new shiksa girl
The first episode sucked absolute ass.
Really? Thats how you want to comeback, by making me hate every single character in the show besides Isaac?
is it just possible that you hate everything?
It's a high effort troll. He researched past threads and tries to say the opposite.
No.
>everyone bullies Isaac into killing himself
>Mercer lets the crew walk all over him like a cuck and only enforced his authority once which he instantly backtracks on
>No consequences for anyone and everyone still treat Isaac like shit at the end
>literal spy for a genocidal race of robots
yeah, I think you are just moronic
>saved the Earth by sacrificing his own life
If it wasn't Isaac it would have just been a different Kaylon. Isaac saved all their lives at the cost of becoming an exile among his own race.
They should be treating him like a hero and the fact the crew can't see that and Mercer never enforces that knowledge upon them literally made me seethe throughout the episode.
I just mainlined the whole thing. Having just watched the Kalon invasion a few hours before the new season, I have to say it makes sense everyone hates his ass.
People do have a point in that nobody seemed to hate him for half of season 2 - then boom, they suddenly hate him enough for him to dban.
There's only two episodes that separate the invasion from the Kelly-time travel stuff. It seems Issac was just not there for those episodes other than the odd scene where he's in the ceremony in the mess hall.
I didn't rewatch the rest of the show but going into this episode it made me think that the big two-parter was the end of the season not mid-season. It really makes no sense.
The Kelly time-travel stuff was definitely intended to be last, but the two episodes between those and the Kaylon battles do seem to have been aired out of order.
I don't think it really does since they would all be dead if not for him.
They are supposed to be some super culturally advanced society. They were acting like a bunch of apes.
he still betrayed them and got thousands of people killed only stopped because of the kid, you fricking autist.
He actually didn't betray them. His mission was to scout for his home planet. He betrayed his home planet for them. If they had sent a different kaylon and not isaac to spy the Earth would have been destroyed.
Hating Isaac for what the KAylon did is literally racist.
Humans are the hillbillies of the galaxy anon
Humans are nowhere near the worst society we see on the show. Remember the Reddit people? Hell, Moclans give all their kids sex changes and their idea of fun is throwing around a ball that spikes you through the hand.
Latchkum!!!
>Moclans give all their kids sex changes
It was pretty fricking based how that episode took a stand against trannies like that.
That episode took a much more even keel than you remember. But yes, Mercer who serves as the show's moral mouthpiece was against the practice.
It's more of an analogue for modern circumcision than it is for any type of transgenderism though.
>That episode took a much more even keel than you remember.
I know, I'm mostly joking. They went the right way for approaching the topic, though, because it allowed the topic to be handled more neutrally. If the same material was handled by modern Star Trek they'd have just made the character out and out transgender and made it about convincing the BIGOT parent to accept the kid having surgery and just alienated half the audience.
It wasn't an analog for anything specific that humans are doing. Just a demonstration of the depth of their contempt for women.
>Think the reddit people are savages because of their dislike exections.
>disliked Isaac to death
hypocrites
Would you?
She wasn't unattractive despite the freakish appearance.
god yes
that doesn't mean much
just about to
YES.
I worked on a pineapple farm for a few months, and I'm not interested in going back.
Didn't see the ep, does she have a sexy voice? That's really all that matters.
I think the pain on the forward thrust would pull me out of the mood.
just wear a life preserver around your dick
So I don't really want to rewatch last season's finale, please someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of this
>Orville goes to Kaylon world so Isaac can make his report on human behavior
>Kaylon leadership decides that they should just frick the humans up
>Isaac disagrees, is deactivated
>Kaylon ships depart for Earth
>Orville negotiates with white space muslims to team up and save their planets
>big battle
Did I miss anything?
Isaac wasn't deactivated. They kept him around and he eventually betrayed the kaylon be EMPing the ship killing all them and himself but then Norm Mcdonal brought him back.
that's like the mid-season finale, theres like 6 episodes after that.
man if you're gonna do a 3 year hiatus you should include a 3 minute recap
no shit, I'm rewatching the last episodes and don't remember anything.
Hey my fellow gays. It's so good to have the gayest gay back on gaylevision agayn.
no kissing on the lips its not attractive but it does not make me want to puke its more of a meh, If this was all gays were i would not even care tbh.
Really loving this new office drama by Seth McFarlane, especially with it's strong message of suicide prevention. Really, funny and gripping sci-fi. It only took me 3+ hrs to drudge through the entire episode.
>Only Hulu
Everything good cones with a heavy price
I just rinsed the Kurtzman stank off me by watching this
There is an alternate universe in which they put McFarlane in charge of Star Trek to begin with, but that will never be your timeline. The alien women are sexy, and the berber carpet is soft and cool.
As much as I hate Alex Kurtzman, the Halo TV show had me going "if Alex Kurtzman was producing this I can't think of a single way he would have made it worse because this is that bad." I think Paramount + has a serious company culture problem that attracts hacks of this caliber and the studio simply refuses to demand better.
Premiere episode was awesome. Surprisingly next to no jokes. Heavy subject handled well. Good stuff.
>Heavy subject handled well.
Only thing handled well was the holodeck scene where they acknowledge that bringing back dead people is kinda shitty. Otherwise, it was a tedious, melodramatic episode full of mostly unearned character bullshit that made me hate basically the entire crew and mistrust Isaac even more. He's entirely capable of blowing the entire crew out an airlock for autistic reasons for all we know. The only character who was not hate-able this episode was Lamar, and J. Lee is the worst fricking actor in the world.
Unearned? b***h, did you not watch last season? If they didn't acknowledge the aftermath of the Kaylon battle everyone would complain.
Literally half a season (and 2+ years) late, "bitch", and most of it came out of the mouth of some literally who newgirl that nobody knows or cares about. Was hoping that she'd be a fun waifu but she's just some angry c**t. Why are they doing Kaylon epilogue now? And why are they doing it as shitty office drama? Frick this gay show.
Bit worried that the Union allows live-fire exercises to be conducted around the drydock station and the ships undergoing repairs.
Maybe it was low-yield rounds against a fragile drone target.
If it's depowered something that can still slag a drone then it'll vaporise any crew members working on the ships' surfaces.
I thought this too, but
makes a good point.
I can't remember if Union shields are (near-)skintight like NuTrek or a big bubble (like actual Trek): it's probably more forgivable if it's the former.
I noticed the same thing. That was so dumb.
Should have conducted the exercises around the wreckage of Union, Krill and Kaylon ships.
Speaking of the Krill, when is Ed's real girlfriend going to turn up again?
I’ve got a feeling she’ll be back this season now that they have a mutual enemy
She's waiting on her rental car reservation.
Hail Avis!
The alliance of convenience is OVER when they find out about Europcar.
>Top-tier milf actress
>cover her in latex
Reason #233 to be frustrated and disappointed with The Orville
The ship gets a refit, a strike fighter, and they ditched the school-bus shuttle craft
Was there a new season?
The first episode landed last night.
very nice
S2 of The Orville ran in 2019. Since then there have been four (4) premiers of new Star Trek series.
That last Star Trek ended in 2005
And they've all been steaming piles of shit.
Lower Decks has been good. The rest are shit.
cartoons are for kids
Fox buyout
Quality writing delays
Covid
Filming
More Covid
Filming while working around schedules
Delay of premier while Hulu was reworked
>Orville goes on hiatus
>ST desperately tries to fill the void with a bunch of absolute crap shows
>Orville comes back with a borderline TNG-style episode that actually feels like Star Trek
They just keep winning. Racist Ensign is cute. Interested in her character development
She's about as cute as a flesh-eating virus.
But I too am interested in seeing the Isaac/Doctor/Ensign love triangle.
t. robot lovers
She was so annoying I didnt even care that she was cute.
>Racist Ensign is cute.
initial headshots make her seem pretty but she's actually a hideous sticc goblin and her character is a hate-able c**t on wheels who is apparently half a mary sue.
>she can visualize in the 4th dimension
She can visualize "4th dimensional geometry." It seems to be something related to quantum computing in their universe.
Its some nonsense is what it is. Speaking of which, everything Isaac said when he was making up dumb technobabble in his suicide note was complete nonsense. They didn't even try to use words that might actually relate to the what they were talking about.
>character development
Hopefully the same development as Ensign Turco.
Seth McFarlane is a terrible leading man and his "WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP" shtick is insufferable. Great special effects tho.
>orville is back
>forgot how much it sucked
oof
It...wasn't great at all to begin with, but did have moments, anon. Ignore the paid PR posters, it's ok to dislike shows that are poorly written.
The entire episode is really boring outside Norm Jello in a space suit. Cancer got Norm...
but I am not sure cancer can kill the cancer of The Snoreville. I will give it one more episode, then call it quits. I have no hopes whatsoever for it.
finally
I'll have to watch the last season I don't remember anything.
>single mother drama
>planet of homosexuals drama
>isaac betrays the geth and helps the federation win the war
you're all caught up bruv
All you have to remember is that Isaac was a sleeper agent (without his knowledge, against his will) and when he got activated his race started a war with the Federation and lots of people got killed in the ensuing battle. Their ships were being boarded by robots that looked just like Isaac but were murderous. Then Isaac got reinstated as an officer on the Orville. They go over all of it in the episode.
Isaac knew what he was doing the whole time. The only difference between him and the other robots was that they had deliberately left him without the knowledge of how their builders had oppressed them. When he learned exactly how bad the Kaylon builders were he changed his mind because humans were not nearly as bad.
Oh, I guess I didn't remember it as well as I thought. I remembered him being a sleeper agent and getting activated suddenly, not being an active traitor. Makes more sense that people hate him so much with that in mind.
simps