Basically this >5.1 >stick all your dialogue in a center channel 99% of people don't have >wtf why are people turning on subtitles or dynamic range compression you're ruining our dogshit artistic vision >stooooooooop there's supposed to be 40 decibels of dynamic range between whisper quiet dialog and Nolan wub wub effects >muh vision
I work in audio, and it's kind of amazing how some people are so neck deep into things, that they don't realize the majority of people are still watching things on a basic ass TV with shitty stereo speakers.
Yeah that's the point he's making. Audio engineers mix everything for home theaters but most people have stereo setups, the result is that most people just turn the volume down and enable subtitles while audiophiles whine about it
>Audio engineers mix everything for home theaters
really? because i often read on the bluray.com forums that modern mixes are so terrible because they cater to the netflix+soundbar crowd
They edit them for cinemas. They make it so it sounds as good as possible in the most perfect setting.
Wouldn't be smart to make it so it works with home televisions because then it'll sound shoddy in cinemas which is where it matters most when people are actually paying for it.
Also most people haven't got a TV that has the necessary audio capability. So they either gotta get a separate sound system or fork out for a premium TV.
Basically this >5.1 >stick all your dialogue in a center channel 99% of people don't have >wtf why are people turning on subtitles or dynamic range compression you're ruining our dogshit artistic vision >stooooooooop there's supposed to be 40 decibels of dynamic range between whisper quiet dialog and Nolan wub wub effects >muh vision
If you have five speakers and a subwoofer just lying around, it probably sounds great! Oh? But you don't though? Tough titty, lmao.
>If you have five speakers and a subwoofer just lying around
I actually did lmao. My parents gave me speakers from my grand dad minus a subwoofer but they can hit low frequencies pretty well anyway. Made in the 70s like two decades before I was born. They sound great paired with the budget av reciever I slapped them on. Way better than the garbage sound bar I was using before had I known how nice a real surround setup was I would have gone looking for cheap used/old speaker a long time ago.
i'm glad it's not just me that is noticing this
over half of all new movies 2010-now that i watch are either outside sounds drowning out the dialogue or the dialogue being a muffled mess from start to finish
>action scenes are loud as hell >turn the audio down >characters are barely audible
Basically this >5.1 >stick all your dialogue in a center channel 99% of people don't have >wtf why are people turning on subtitles or dynamic range compression you're ruining our dogshit artistic vision >stooooooooop there's supposed to be 40 decibels of dynamic range between whisper quiet dialog and Nolan wub wub effects >muh vision
Does it really work? I am considering buying one if it will actually make me hear people speaking.
This. Playing anything on a TV or speakers and I can't hear what the frick anyone is saying. Typically if I'm wearing headphones it's manageable though. I blame Nolan
For me it’s because my kids are usually sleeping when I watch movies now, so need to keep the volume a bit lower and you can’t hear dialogue well at lower volumes
Actors should stop mumbling their line. My hearing is already shit for my native language, as esl I feel discriminated by american actors not catering to my hears and mind
subtitles let me focus on the movie more cause i'm not constantly trying to heard what everyone is saying at all times and constantly having to raise and lower the volume.
>focus on the movie more >I cant use my eyes and ears at the same time so I guess I will just take my eyes away from the actual scene and read the dialogue on the bottom that I am currently hearing with my ears
I don't have to even read it because I am paying attention to the film or show that I am watching lmfao
I feel like I'm arguing with Cartman about Chipotle
I can read so fast that my comprehension of the line precedes the actor saying it. This removes a lot of dramatic tension and timing in film
Yet I need the subtitles
Yes god i fricking hate zoomers this wasnt a thing even 5 years ago now every fricking time I go to someones house, or see people in public watching shit on their phone they always have subtitles on and I genuinely can't stand it
If the audio wasn't so fricking shit I wouldn't have to >character talks normally >it's a whisper >turn vol up >music or sound effect out of nowhere at 200% volume >back to whisper talking
fricking shit.
get a decent audio setup for fricks sake
dont blame the movie for your shitty stereo TV speakers that have to somehow output the downmixed 5.1 or 7.1 DTS line
No.
I don't have this problem with older media at all, just shit that's pumped out in the past few years.
Lucky for me it's 99% shit that I don't bother with even finishing anyway.
Go on Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, ebay or any local second hand shop you'll get a solid enough sound system for less than 100 bucks likely under 50
>watched movies/shows with some coworkers >every single time they put on subtitles >iconic movies, subtitles >stupid comedies, subtitles >Netflix fotm, subtitles >they're talking half the time or looking at their phones anyways
Its ADHD culture, they want to glance at the screen, read the sentence, then go back to whatever theyre really doing.
Yes, that is a valid reason. Watching in a foreign language, with the same language subs, is scientifically the best to way to learn by watching media.
I am fricking SICK AND TIRED of journalistic bloat. Why does this need to be a fricking FULL ARTICLE?
Let me explain this to the moronic millennials who actually read this trash: >Sound mixing is crappy in modern media. >Half of Gen Z is watching on their phones. >Duffer brothers thought it would be le funny epic to put subtitles like [tentacles squelching wetly
That’s it. Anyone who needs an article to “explore how Gen Z because obsessed with subtitles” is a fricking IDIOT.
subtitles ruin the timing of the dialog. someone will ask a character something and instead of a dramatic reveal you just get the whole fricking line a few seconds earlier. Just fricking pay attention/learn english/turn up the tv.
It could be avoided but there's drawbacks >Make the subtitle finish the sentence but it's unthinkable in case of someone going "THE MURDERER IS -ACK" >Make the subtitles appears one word at a time, but it's very uncomfortable because you'd just be reading every word spaced out
Ideally you'd have the subtitle looking ordinary but when it gets cut short the irrelevant part would become greyed or crossed out, showing that they were merely a false flag to not break immersion in the scene
>No, actually it’s your fault, you should have expensive sound bars and speakers setup for your TCL TV with shitty color mixing on screen, that you have in your dorm where you and your roommate have curtains to separate you, not even a door.
I adjust my brightness sliders with the time of day and even that is exhausting. I don’t want to have to learn about audio settings just to have it be perfect.
I'm almost 40 and I haven't been able to watch things without subs for about 10 years. I didn't even realize it had something to do with sound mixing, I just knew I missed a lot of dialog without it.
The very first time I watched a movie (in theaters) and I couldn't understand what anyone was saying was Pirates 3. Saw it with friends at a movie tavern and I still remember the frustration of just sitting there and listening to everyone mumbling through their lines. I've never seen the movie again so I'm unsure if it was the movie itself or the theater, but ever since then every time I watch a movie and I can't fricking hear what anyone is saying at full volume I just turn on the subtitles, usually by default now.
Basically no one wants to pay for basic-ass stereo mixes anymore. It's more work, and from an "artistic," and "production" stand point, it's just "worse" than surround setups, even if that's what most people have. It's this problem where creators think people will naturally upgrade over time, like from VHS to DVD, or whatever, but the issue is space. You have to basically make an entire room around 5.1 or 7.1 audio.
I'm not a subtitle hater but she says >it's been a really long day >it's been nice getting to know you all better
She might have mumbled something before that too like "right".
I honestly find it weird that zoomers love subtitles. I guess they need to hear every word of the total shit they watch.
Sound mixing in most things made in the past ten years is absolutely fricking trash. Dialogue is barely audible but everything else is blown the absolute frick out so you're either relying on subtitles or constantly adjusting the volume while you're watching just so you can hear what the frick people are saying and not blow out your fricking eardrums when the loud as shit bassy music starts.
I unironically think it's intentional. For instance, Nolan is the biggest offender, and his movies typically have absolutely nonsensical plots with style-over-substance sequences, along with sterile two-dimensional cardboard-cutout characters. And his strategy to mask these shortcomings is to frick with the audio mixing so all you hear is Hans Zimmer BWOOOOOMs and loud sound effects so you don't get a chance to really tune in on the dialogue and realize how awful the dialogue/plot/characters are.
I think it's that audio capability has become so good and the creators who are passionate about making their movie as good as possible will use the technology to make a great dynamic audio. However the problem is 90% of people don't have the necessary audio systems for it so it doesn't sound right
I don't know if this is still the case but if you pirated movies in the past you've probably run around stuff labeled KORSUB that have hardcoded Korean subtitles and its almost always the first stuff that comes out, often before the movie is released on home media or even theaters. Well, turns out that the reason why that is is because korean airlines compete with each other on who has the best movie selection on their flights and they were willing to pay top dollar to make sure that they have movies nobody else has. So what happened is that people who worked on the airlines simply leaked the movies, resulting in a shitload of hardcoded korean subbed movies that typically came out a few days before the official release.
A good movie experience is unironically supposed to be exactly how you described watching without subtitles
Fricking ADHD browse-the-internet-while-watching-tv generation is ruining everything
Note how the goalposts are changing in this thread. First it's everyone is deaf and not paying attention. Now it's "oh, you don't need to hear every word anyway". Fricking homosexuals kys.
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT USE movies2watch.tv YOU NEED TO TORRENT ALL OF YOU MOVIES ON A VPN AND THEN JAILBREAK YOUR FIRESTICK TO HAVE A PLEX SERVER THAT HAS UNLIMITED 4K MOVIE STORAGE WHERE YOU ALSO UPLOAD A 4K POSTER OF THE MOVIE SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A NETFLIX COPY!!!
That’s cool and all, but I’ll just go to movies2watch.tv on my iPad, haha.
My hearing is so good that I can hear something off at night and wake up from it. No, it's the sound department to blame for me not hearing wtf people are saying.
yeah turns out that its hard to hear what someone is saying when they're not speaking clearly. Even in real life I have to deal with people who don't understand that if you're in a metal shop and there's a shitload of noise aorund you have to actually raise your voice and speak directly towards a person rather than speak in a normal room volume while facing the opposite direction.
As a Euro I always watch with subtitles because we didn't have much dubbed movies growing up. 99% of the time I don't need subs for English movies but it's still nice to have them there in those cases I didn't catch a word or sentence. Just a quick glance and I don't have to pause and rewind.
a while back I was watching DUNC with my brother. We had to constantly crank the volume up and down because when you had the audio loud enough to hear the whisper-quiet dialogue, the next second the action scene would be ear-splitting. And when you turned down the volume so it was appropriate for the lound action scenes, you couldn't hear a single word during dialogue.
I believe there's some subtrack for cinemas because in theatre it all worked but I also downloaded DUNC for a rewatch and had same experience. Surround mixing going bad on rips?
Mixing has deteriorated but more so that tvs are made cheaper and shoddier. Piss poor audio systems and bad design regarding positioning of it means most aren't capable of ruining the audio decently.
In my case watching DUNC, was using an amp and good external speakers. It would've been even worse if I used built-in speakers in a flat-screen, but the problem was still severe. The problem is the mixing, definitely.
>entire thread misses the point where they weren't talking about subtitles in movies, but recaptioning an image as a "meme" just like imageboards did 10 years ago
Fix your sound mixing and I will turn off subtitles.
Basically this
>5.1
>stick all your dialogue in a center channel 99% of people don't have
>wtf why are people turning on subtitles or dynamic range compression you're ruining our dogshit artistic vision
>stooooooooop there's supposed to be 40 decibels of dynamic range between whisper quiet dialog and Nolan wub wub effects
>muh vision
I work in audio, and it's kind of amazing how some people are so neck deep into things, that they don't realize the majority of people are still watching things on a basic ass TV with shitty stereo speakers.
>implying everyone has a 5.1 or 7.1 system
Yeah that's the point he's making. Audio engineers mix everything for home theaters but most people have stereo setups, the result is that most people just turn the volume down and enable subtitles while audiophiles whine about it
>Audio engineers mix everything for home theaters
really? because i often read on the bluray.com forums that modern mixes are so terrible because they cater to the netflix+soundbar crowd
They edit them for cinemas. They make it so it sounds as good as possible in the most perfect setting.
Wouldn't be smart to make it so it works with home televisions because then it'll sound shoddy in cinemas which is where it matters most when people are actually paying for it.
I got a surround sound system and all my kino sound amazing now.
Also most people haven't got a TV that has the necessary audio capability. So they either gotta get a separate sound system or fork out for a premium TV.
This. Modern shows have terrible soundmixing. When I watch older shows I don’t need captions, but I do for newer shows.
It's what this guy is talking about.
If you have five speakers and a subwoofer just lying around, it probably sounds great! Oh? But you don't though? Tough titty, lmao.
>If you have five speakers and a subwoofer just lying around
I actually did lmao. My parents gave me speakers from my grand dad minus a subwoofer but they can hit low frequencies pretty well anyway. Made in the 70s like two decades before I was born. They sound great paired with the budget av reciever I slapped them on. Way better than the garbage sound bar I was using before had I known how nice a real surround setup was I would have gone looking for cheap used/old speaker a long time ago.
Agreed
I cannot tell you how many newer shows or movies have sound effects and music that completely drown out the dialogue. It's so annoying
and streaming movies often absolutely frick up the volume levels. the dialogue is too quiet and the action is too loud.
You just repackaged his post and said it back at him. Is this a reddit habit? Curious
Sounds like something a homosexual would say. You aren't a homosexual are you?
i'm glad it's not just me that is noticing this
over half of all new movies 2010-now that i watch are either outside sounds drowning out the dialogue or the dialogue being a muffled mess from start to finish
Just turn on audio normalization
>Fix your sound mixing
My problem with all of nolan's movies.
Tenet is fricking unwatchable, frick Nolan what a hack.
This. It's like all the sound guys from cable tv went to work on movies
Stop trying to use built in speakers. As that’s the actual culprit here.
>action scenes are loud as hell
>turn the audio down
>characters are barely audible
Does it really work? I am considering buying one if it will actually make me hear people speaking.
Try watching with speakers and not through your television built-ins.
This. Playing anything on a TV or speakers and I can't hear what the frick anyone is saying. Typically if I'm wearing headphones it's manageable though. I blame Nolan
For me it’s because my kids are usually sleeping when I watch movies now, so need to keep the volume a bit lower and you can’t hear dialogue well at lower volumes
what are headphones, moron
36 year old millennial here, I can't fricking hear the dialogue when the music is so loud in comparison.
it's hard for me to understand the characters, my brain won't allow it
Actors should stop mumbling their line. My hearing is already shit for my native language, as esl I feel discriminated by american actors not catering to my hears and mind
>he doesn't watch mumblecore
I watched Nope yesterday and it was half as bad as Tenet in this regard.
wearing masks has given them speech issues
It's probably more to do with hearing loss from wearing headphones for hours every day.
why do subtitles make boomers seethe?
Cause boomers don't have the mental capacity to read and watch moving pictures at the same time
This
Only boomers complain they can't read and watch simultaneously
subtitles let me focus on the movie more cause i'm not constantly trying to heard what everyone is saying at all times and constantly having to raise and lower the volume.
>focus on the movie more
>I cant use my eyes and ears at the same time so I guess I will just take my eyes away from the actual scene and read the dialogue on the bottom that I am currently hearing with my ears
>he can't read dialogue and watch the movie at the same time
hey its not my fault it takes you an hour to read a sentence
I don't have to even read it because I am paying attention to the film or show that I am watching lmfao
I feel like I'm arguing with Cartman about Chipotle
I can read so fast that my comprehension of the line precedes the actor saying it. This removes a lot of dramatic tension and timing in film
Yet I need the subtitles
i use subtitles because i'm hard of hearing
t. millennial
What?
I USE SUBTITLES BECAUSE I'M HARD OF HEARING
You're subletting your car to buy a ring? Who's the lucky lass, boy?
>obsessed
its not an “obsession” its a necessary evil.
fix your fricking sound design
>Americans need subtitles for their own language
Yes god i fricking hate zoomers this wasnt a thing even 5 years ago now every fricking time I go to someones house, or see people in public watching shit on their phone they always have subtitles on and I genuinely can't stand it
>t. can't read
>t. can't pay attention
Try watching shit like Tenet without subs and come again
Doesn't help that actors frickin mumble nowadays
If the audio wasn't so fricking shit I wouldn't have to
>character talks normally
>it's a whisper
>turn vol up
>music or sound effect out of nowhere at 200% volume
>back to whisper talking
fricking shit.
get a decent audio setup for fricks sake
dont blame the movie for your shitty stereo TV speakers that have to somehow output the downmixed 5.1 or 7.1 DTS line
No.
I don't have this problem with older media at all, just shit that's pumped out in the past few years.
Lucky for me it's 99% shit that I don't bother with even finishing anyway.
>Just wire speakers all over your room, goy!
>he doesn't have wireless speakers
>just spend a couple grand on a surround sound setup
How about you just go frick yourself.
Go on Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, ebay or any local second hand shop you'll get a solid enough sound system for less than 100 bucks likely under 50
No.
kys
>watched movies/shows with some coworkers
>every single time they put on subtitles
>iconic movies, subtitles
>stupid comedies, subtitles
>Netflix fotm, subtitles
>they're talking half the time or looking at their phones anyways
Its ADHD culture, they want to glance at the screen, read the sentence, then go back to whatever theyre really doing.
That could be a part of it, sometimes I like to listen to shows in the backyground if I have already seen them
There are a million reasons to love and use subtitles, and I do
But this is also a factor, yeah. It's just faster. zoom zoom
Reading and watching the movie takes more mental effort than just playing it and not looking.
>subtitles
you didn't watch the movie
I only use subtitles for "The Boys" because I don't understand Butcher at all
isn't it because ESL like me watch it with English subtitles to better understand..?
Yes, that is a valid reason. Watching in a foreign language, with the same language subs, is scientifically the best to way to learn by watching media.
I am fricking SICK AND TIRED of journalistic bloat. Why does this need to be a fricking FULL ARTICLE?
Let me explain this to the moronic millennials who actually read this trash:
>Sound mixing is crappy in modern media.
>Half of Gen Z is watching on their phones.
>Duffer brothers thought it would be le funny epic to put subtitles like [tentacles squelching wetly
That’s it. Anyone who needs an article to “explore how Gen Z because obsessed with subtitles” is a fricking IDIOT.
subtitles ruin the timing of the dialog. someone will ask a character something and instead of a dramatic reveal you just get the whole fricking line a few seconds earlier. Just fricking pay attention/learn english/turn up the tv.
My one gripe. I hate knowing someone is about to die mid-sentence because of that stupid fricking hyphen
It could be avoided but there's drawbacks
>Make the subtitle finish the sentence but it's unthinkable in case of someone going "THE MURDERER IS -ACK"
>Make the subtitles appears one word at a time, but it's very uncomfortable because you'd just be reading every word spaced out
Ideally you'd have the subtitle looking ordinary but when it gets cut short the irrelevant part would become greyed or crossed out, showing that they were merely a false flag to not break immersion in the scene
Who even makes the subtitle though? Aren’t they just outsourced to wagies who won’t take the care to do something like that?
Just mix your sound properly
I'm gonna be honest as a zoomer
It just doesn't feel right when I have subtitles off
>No, actually it’s your fault, you should have expensive sound bars and speakers setup for your TCL TV with shitty color mixing on screen, that you have in your dorm where you and your roommate have curtains to separate you, not even a door.
i have a soundbar and still have this issue. I can't get the settings right i guess
I adjust my brightness sliders with the time of day and even that is exhausting. I don’t want to have to learn about audio settings just to have it be perfect.
I thought it was because I'm not a native english speaker. Surprised to see that some natives need subtitles as well
I'm almost 40 and I haven't been able to watch things without subs for about 10 years. I didn't even realize it had something to do with sound mixing, I just knew I missed a lot of dialog without it.
It's not even missing every word, it's sometimes missing just one word and you have to go back and re-watch that scene over.
The very first time I watched a movie (in theaters) and I couldn't understand what anyone was saying was Pirates 3. Saw it with friends at a movie tavern and I still remember the frustration of just sitting there and listening to everyone mumbling through their lines. I've never seen the movie again so I'm unsure if it was the movie itself or the theater, but ever since then every time I watch a movie and I can't fricking hear what anyone is saying at full volume I just turn on the subtitles, usually by default now.
the influence of korean media is making people smarter
Basically no one wants to pay for basic-ass stereo mixes anymore. It's more work, and from an "artistic," and "production" stand point, it's just "worse" than surround setups, even if that's what most people have. It's this problem where creators think people will naturally upgrade over time, like from VHS to DVD, or whatever, but the issue is space. You have to basically make an entire room around 5.1 or 7.1 audio.
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Just wanna let you know I mentally read this in a slurpy dumb moron voice. You have a slurpy dumb moron voice.
Movies and TV should be in mono
You might actually convince executives to do this more than stereo. Most phones are mono.
To subtitle haters, please tell me what Willa(the redhead) says from 1:47 to 1:51 on your first try.
I'm not a subtitle hater but she says
>it's been a really long day
>it's been nice getting to know you all better
She might have mumbled something before that too like "right".
I honestly find it weird that zoomers love subtitles. I guess they need to hear every word of the total shit they watch.
You missed the part where she calls him a handsome addict. Thanks for proving my point, you're actually convinced you heard everything.
>my handsome addict good night its been great getting to know you all
Everyone here mumbles though so thats probably a learned ear thing
Kek I thought she was having a stroke, no fricking clue what she mumbled.
I just can't hear shit or can't focus on the dialogue well enough, I might be autistic or have ADHD
>subtitles are on sudaka or panchito
SHAME
Sound mixing in most things made in the past ten years is absolutely fricking trash. Dialogue is barely audible but everything else is blown the absolute frick out so you're either relying on subtitles or constantly adjusting the volume while you're watching just so you can hear what the frick people are saying and not blow out your fricking eardrums when the loud as shit bassy music starts.
I unironically think it's intentional. For instance, Nolan is the biggest offender, and his movies typically have absolutely nonsensical plots with style-over-substance sequences, along with sterile two-dimensional cardboard-cutout characters. And his strategy to mask these shortcomings is to frick with the audio mixing so all you hear is Hans Zimmer BWOOOOOMs and loud sound effects so you don't get a chance to really tune in on the dialogue and realize how awful the dialogue/plot/characters are.
Are you saying that we're basically seeing the equivalent of camera shaking to hide the cgi effects but for audio?
That's the perfect analogy to describe it, yes.
Good observation.
I also like opinions in this thread in genral.
Today you were not homosexuals
I agree it's intentional but not for that reason.
I think it's that audio capability has become so good and the creators who are passionate about making their movie as good as possible will use the technology to make a great dynamic audio. However the problem is 90% of people don't have the necessary audio systems for it so it doesn't sound right
>watching movie on bootleg stream site
>only available subtitles are in moldovan
>mfw
What the hell is a bootleg stream site? Just use fmovies, dood. You can change servers there if the server you're using doesn't have subtitles.
>What the hell is a bootleg stream site?
Basically anything that streams illegally.
>mfw you can’t turn them off because they’re on the actual video
this is only acceptable with leaked korean airline rips
Explain. Do you mean to tell me that people are recording in-flight movies to post on the internet?
I don't know if this is still the case but if you pirated movies in the past you've probably run around stuff labeled KORSUB that have hardcoded Korean subtitles and its almost always the first stuff that comes out, often before the movie is released on home media or even theaters. Well, turns out that the reason why that is is because korean airlines compete with each other on who has the best movie selection on their flights and they were willing to pay top dollar to make sure that they have movies nobody else has. So what happened is that people who worked on the airlines simply leaked the movies, resulting in a shitload of hardcoded korean subbed movies that typically came out a few days before the official release.
KORSUB is relatively new phenomenon.
Hardly, its well over 10 years old.
That’s actually kind of cool.
>watch movie without subtitles
>nice, immersive experience
>can't remember anything once the movie is over
>watch movie with subtitles
>i understand everything, all the names and plot
>once the movie is over, it feels like i just finished a book
i hate movies
A good movie experience is unironically supposed to be exactly how you described watching without subtitles
Fricking ADHD browse-the-internet-while-watching-tv generation is ruining everything
Note how the goalposts are changing in this thread. First it's everyone is deaf and not paying attention. Now it's "oh, you don't need to hear every word anyway". Fricking homosexuals kys.
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT USE movies2watch.tv YOU NEED TO TORRENT ALL OF YOU MOVIES ON A VPN AND THEN JAILBREAK YOUR FIRESTICK TO HAVE A PLEX SERVER THAT HAS UNLIMITED 4K MOVIE STORAGE WHERE YOU ALSO UPLOAD A 4K POSTER OF THE MOVIE SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A NETFLIX COPY!!!
That’s cool and all, but I’ll just go to movies2watch.tv on my iPad, haha.
My hearing is so good that I can hear something off at night and wake up from it. No, it's the sound department to blame for me not hearing wtf people are saying.
I've got rid of devices because of wall wart buzz. Still can't hear half of these fricking movies on a proper 7.1 set up.
KEK I thought it was just me as an ESL but you guys actually struggle to understand each others as natives and resort to subs KEKKKK
yeah turns out that its hard to hear what someone is saying when they're not speaking clearly. Even in real life I have to deal with people who don't understand that if you're in a metal shop and there's a shitload of noise aorund you have to actually raise your voice and speak directly towards a person rather than speak in a normal room volume while facing the opposite direction.
As a Euro I always watch with subtitles because we didn't have much dubbed movies growing up. 99% of the time I don't need subs for English movies but it's still nice to have them there in those cases I didn't catch a word or sentence. Just a quick glance and I don't have to pause and rewind.
Japals are to blame here with their anime.
I'm an ESL so I'm just used to subs. I wish zoom transcript worked better because frick working with Indians lmao.
i watch everything 2x and subtitles help
If you're lucky your movie will have multiple audio tracks, so you can pick stereo (or 2 channel).
At least you can check before buying box sets if it has a stereo track. For streaming, I think it is rare.
It's all those got dang animes cartoons they're always watching on their youtubes.
a while back I was watching DUNC with my brother. We had to constantly crank the volume up and down because when you had the audio loud enough to hear the whisper-quiet dialogue, the next second the action scene would be ear-splitting. And when you turned down the volume so it was appropriate for the lound action scenes, you couldn't hear a single word during dialogue.
I believe there's some subtrack for cinemas because in theatre it all worked but I also downloaded DUNC for a rewatch and had same experience. Surround mixing going bad on rips?
Mixing has deteriorated but more so that tvs are made cheaper and shoddier. Piss poor audio systems and bad design regarding positioning of it means most aren't capable of ruining the audio decently.
In my case watching DUNC, was using an amp and good external speakers. It would've been even worse if I used built-in speakers in a flat-screen, but the problem was still severe. The problem is the mixing, definitely.
>entire thread misses the point where they weren't talking about subtitles in movies, but recaptioning an image as a "meme" just like imageboards did 10 years ago
I hate subtitles. They block a quarter of the shot, I want to watch and listen instead of read.
You can edit the subtitles yknow. Size, font, colour etc
Don't care. Don't like em, simple as.
I'm not spending 2 grand on surround sound you fricking israelites I can read faster than you can die in a gas chamber
English is a second language to most American zoomers, so this makes a lot of sense