This guy did nothing wrong, not a single thing
and the way he dies is just a way for the writers to feel good as if they were killing gun owning christians
I thought he'd realise at the end he was wrong and sacrifice himself or something. They even built up his character for nothing, unless they just wanted him to be hitler (good speaker and then dies take that white supremacists)
Or even if he didn't die, maybe witness Vecna sacrificing Max and have Lucas screaming and sobbing "You son of a b***h!" at him and realizing he had everything wrong and fricked up and got Max killed.
He had to die. He would’ve ended up killing Dustin and Lucas and probably the other innocent kids in the Hellfire club. You can’t reason with gun owning christians
This. Just started rewatching S1 and it''s so much better than all of the following seasons. S3 and 4 seem like moronic saturday morning cartoons in comparison
It's even more bizarre that you kept watching. Like a lot of current projects it seems like you get one good season but then the audience starts providing feedback that the creators start trying to pander to, so you get a story arc or character development meant to please the fans that accelerates the series into the ground instead. Fanservice derived from social media pressure is killing good tv, and it's not going to change because the corporate execs are idiotic enough to to let their risk aversion steer them into it and showrunners are spending more time being narcissistic performance artists rather than actually being good showrunners.
I thought it was kind of funny how he casually just gets split in half after all of that tension building up all season long.
I don't think it was some kind of anti white anti christian commentary like you think it is. They never said one way or another whether this guy was 'bad' or evil. That's why they didn't have a protagonist kill him. Because at the end he is still clearly a redeemable understandable person. You need to learn to read subtext better.
His seemingly gun-ho bullshit was broken up every so often by moments of clarity. he's not unreasonable. He knows shits absolutely going down, but he hasn't been exposed to evidence that its not Eddie's doing. He still cant believe his chick was on drugs.
It was a decent send off for a threat, who isn't actually a villain. A redemption arc would have been nice but at this point there are too many protags to keep interesting. Losing a kid was the right move in that regard, although I wish it would have been Will's brother. The desttructor.
He was a shoot first ask questions later kinda guy. He was unredeemable at that point. All the crazy shit that happened he knows Hellfire club was present or involved. Even if he saw Vecna with his own eyes he would just think they summoned him. His final thoughts were that they opened the gates of Hell and i still KEK to this day!!!
This is a bait thread. Regardless of how it actually happened everything is about putting straight white men down. This kind of shit is what gets the most replies on Cinemaphile in 2022.
You're damn right he did something wrong. Acting like he could do whatever he wanted just because he was a white Christian. I actually felt more fear for Erica and Lucas getting offed by this white maniac than I did the vecna shit. Bravo Duffers. Guns are too easy to get, and insecure white boys need to sit the frick down.
Have watched 8 episodes of S4.
What did happen with Jonathan? He is worse and worse with every season.
Why is show shipping Nancy and Steve?
Will being gay doesn't make any sense.
That drove me crazy. Half the shit Dustin said would have made no sense to Eddies uncle, as far as he knew Eddie got crushed by a falling wall or something and then some 14 year old starts talking about how he "defended this town" and "never gave up" beflre he "sacrificed himself." Would have sounded schizo as hell and I can't see him not being suspicious about it. I thought it was going to be an intro to them bringing him into the fold because of an emotional spur of the moment confession about what really happened to Eddie, but nope. The uncle got told that Eddie died fighting heroically against an earthquake and just started crying thinking "that's my boy." Maybe it was grief but to the uninitiated everything Dustin said was bizarre, especially with him handing over a proof of death but with no way of producing a body.
I guess it was meant to be something in the likes of “He loved this town and the people in it - even as an outcast - and died a hero while trying to do something useful/saving somebody”, which in essence was exactly what happened and was compatible with a earthquake disaster.
It was just worded like shit because I guess zoomers wouldn’t have been able to abstract an ambivalent statement and would have been “Wait no Eddie did not die like that what is Dustin talking about”
For some reason a lot of shows create a character who acts reasonably given their circumstances, yet the show/film and community frames them as villains even though a lot of times they are doing what many would consider the right thing if they too were lacking information about the full scenario
With that being said, the jock villain character in Stranger Things (I forgot his fricking name lmao this show has such a large cast) is written better than a lot of these characters as he is shown to devolve into a genuinely irredeemable state over the course of the season. He kind of reminds me as an Othello type of character. Except the issue with the Stranger Things guy is that the show wants the viewers to see him as the villain from the start, instead as someone who devolves into the villain
With that being said, the jock villain character in Stranger Things (I forgot his fricking name lmao this show has such a large cast) is written better than a lot of these characters as he is shown to devolve into a genuinely irredeemable state over the course of the season. He kind of reminds me as an Othello type of character. Except the issue with the Stranger Things guy is that the show wants the viewers to see him as the villain from the start, instead as someone who devolves into the villain
He wanted to be the self-appointed judge, jury, and executioner, and he didn't have the facts. But it didn't matter to him. Plus he was too full of himself to even notice that Chrissy was going insane.
He was a bully and a degenerate that masquerades as an upstanding citizen. The scene where he's being brought up to speed and his pride blocking him into believing people would come to hom for everything shows a huge character flaw, one that constantly put the fate of the story in danger over his pride being hurt.
Religion isn't a bad thing in this show, it's used both as a sigil for hope and a mark of ridicule, as far as shit in Hollywood, this was extremely tame.
Jason was wasted. He was only a villain because he was uninformed, and people thinking he was a bad person simply because he opposed the main characters (with good reason) are fricking moronic but that goes without saying.
I'm just sad how they handled will. He got stuck in the upside down longer than anyone else and survived the experience by being resourceful, and when he comes out kind of fricked up his friends are just like "dude girls!". Idk, I wish they would have done more with him besides just make him gay. The show is really shit at showing the effects of trauma.
> The show is really shit at showing the effects of trauma.
Holy shit Max. Billy dies horribly, and literally in the next scene she is singing a stupid song to make fun of Dustin and his girlfriend. A girlfriend/song whose existence she found out about literally ten minutes before Billy died and that of course in her mind would be tied to the whole situation and surely not a fun memory.
But LOLNEVERENDINGSTORYLOL, I guess, talk about mood whiplash.
Then in the following season they went “Oh, wait a second” and made her suicidal about it.
Go figure.
Is there anything similar to Stranger Thing? I mean something where normal people are trying to fight supernatural more or less succesfully. And good quality >inb4: Stranger Things is shit quality lol
I'm a little stupid so can someone explain me what happened with Dustin's teeth in season 3? I mean he had them in S2 but then they disappeared in S3 and nobody comments it.
It would've been better if he realized Eddy didn't kill his gf and sacrificed himself to stop Vecna, that's what I thought they were going to do.
I thought he'd realise at the end he was wrong and sacrifice himself or something. They even built up his character for nothing, unless they just wanted him to be hitler (good speaker and then dies take that white supremacists)
Or even if he didn't die, maybe witness Vecna sacrificing Max and have Lucas screaming and sobbing "You son of a b***h!" at him and realizing he had everything wrong and fricked up and got Max killed.
He had to die. He would’ve ended up killing Dustin and Lucas and probably the other innocent kids in the Hellfire club. You can’t reason with gun owning christians
I don't know how anybody cared enough to watch after season 3
I got filtered from the little homie scenes
it really is fricking bizarre to go back to season 1 after seeing what its become. as soon as will byers got rescued the show shouldve ended
This. Just started rewatching S1 and it''s so much better than all of the following seasons. S3 and 4 seem like moronic saturday morning cartoons in comparison
It's even more bizarre that you kept watching. Like a lot of current projects it seems like you get one good season but then the audience starts providing feedback that the creators start trying to pander to, so you get a story arc or character development meant to please the fans that accelerates the series into the ground instead. Fanservice derived from social media pressure is killing good tv, and it's not going to change because the corporate execs are idiotic enough to to let their risk aversion steer them into it and showrunners are spending more time being narcissistic performance artists rather than actually being good showrunners.
Whilst i didn't like the last episode of s4. I did enjoy the overall feel of it. Much better then s2 or s3. S1 has the best storyline.
I thought it was kind of funny how he casually just gets split in half after all of that tension building up all season long.
I don't think it was some kind of anti white anti christian commentary like you think it is. They never said one way or another whether this guy was 'bad' or evil. That's why they didn't have a protagonist kill him. Because at the end he is still clearly a redeemable understandable person. You need to learn to read subtext better.
This tbh
His seemingly gun-ho bullshit was broken up every so often by moments of clarity. he's not unreasonable. He knows shits absolutely going down, but he hasn't been exposed to evidence that its not Eddie's doing. He still cant believe his chick was on drugs.
It was a decent send off for a threat, who isn't actually a villain. A redemption arc would have been nice but at this point there are too many protags to keep interesting. Losing a kid was the right move in that regard, although I wish it would have been Will's brother. The desttructor.
He was a shoot first ask questions later kinda guy. He was unredeemable at that point. All the crazy shit that happened he knows Hellfire club was present or involved. Even if he saw Vecna with his own eyes he would just think they summoned him. His final thoughts were that they opened the gates of Hell and i still KEK to this day!!!
>I don't think it was some kind of anti white anti christian commentary
How can anyone still be this naive in 2022?
>oh yessss oppress me daddy!!! xDDD
This is a bait thread. Regardless of how it actually happened everything is about putting straight white men down. This kind of shit is what gets the most replies on Cinemaphile in 2022.
You're damn right he did something wrong. Acting like he could do whatever he wanted just because he was a white Christian. I actually felt more fear for Erica and Lucas getting offed by this white maniac than I did the vecna shit. Bravo Duffers. Guns are too easy to get, and insecure white boys need to sit the frick down.
I don't hate his character but when I wathed his scenes I thought It wasn't Stranger things it was just Riverdale
Max could have had a chance if he didn’t destroy the Walkman.
Have watched 8 episodes of S4.
What did happen with Jonathan? He is worse and worse with every season.
Why is show shipping Nancy and Steve?
Will being gay doesn't make any sense.
Also who are favourite characters of Cinemaphile?
Will being gay makes the most sense if you go back and rewatch.
>Why is show shipping Nancy and Steve?
Because Jonathan looks disgusting, Steve is a fan favorite, and they turned all girls but Nancy into lesbians
El and Max aren’t lesbians
>Will being gay doesn't make any sense.
Are you stupid? It was pretty obvious since 2nd season
My theory is that they've been reducing Jonathan's role ever since he got busted with coke possession in case he gets in trouble again and can't film.
>He defended this town from...an earthquake
That drove me crazy. Half the shit Dustin said would have made no sense to Eddies uncle, as far as he knew Eddie got crushed by a falling wall or something and then some 14 year old starts talking about how he "defended this town" and "never gave up" beflre he "sacrificed himself." Would have sounded schizo as hell and I can't see him not being suspicious about it. I thought it was going to be an intro to them bringing him into the fold because of an emotional spur of the moment confession about what really happened to Eddie, but nope. The uncle got told that Eddie died fighting heroically against an earthquake and just started crying thinking "that's my boy." Maybe it was grief but to the uninitiated everything Dustin said was bizarre, especially with him handing over a proof of death but with no way of producing a body.
He'll definitely be part of the gang in season 5, him and Robin 2.0 will be the new additions. They'll probably die
I guess it was meant to be something in the likes of “He loved this town and the people in it - even as an outcast - and died a hero while trying to do something useful/saving somebody”, which in essence was exactly what happened and was compatible with a earthquake disaster.
It was just worded like shit because I guess zoomers wouldn’t have been able to abstract an ambivalent statement and would have been “Wait no Eddie did not die like that what is Dustin talking about”
For some reason a lot of shows create a character who acts reasonably given their circumstances, yet the show/film and community frames them as villains even though a lot of times they are doing what many would consider the right thing if they too were lacking information about the full scenario
With that being said, the jock villain character in Stranger Things (I forgot his fricking name lmao this show has such a large cast) is written better than a lot of these characters as he is shown to devolve into a genuinely irredeemable state over the course of the season. He kind of reminds me as an Othello type of character. Except the issue with the Stranger Things guy is that the show wants the viewers to see him as the villain from the start, instead as someone who devolves into the villain
Are you talking about El's "dad"?
Pretty sure they were talking about Jason.
He wanted to be the self-appointed judge, jury, and executioner, and he didn't have the facts. But it didn't matter to him. Plus he was too full of himself to even notice that Chrissy was going insane.
He was a bully and a degenerate that masquerades as an upstanding citizen. The scene where he's being brought up to speed and his pride blocking him into believing people would come to hom for everything shows a huge character flaw, one that constantly put the fate of the story in danger over his pride being hurt.
Religion isn't a bad thing in this show, it's used both as a sigil for hope and a mark of ridicule, as far as shit in Hollywood, this was extremely tame.
>gun owning christians
lol this is more sign of fall of christianity than anything, you are all fricking lost
If you say so Shlomo, but I do hope whoever gets around to cutting your nose off livestreams it for the rest of us.
ts ts, what a nasty words. Do you repent your sins as a good christian boy each night?
>Steve is the most popular character
I don't mind at all but how did he become more popular than Dustin?
Because he's handsome. Dustin's one of my favorite characters but he's ugly as sin
>literally goes on a manhunt trying to kill not just one but two people without any actual proof of chrissy's death
yeah, sure, he did nothing wrong
Jason was wasted. He was only a villain because he was uninformed, and people thinking he was a bad person simply because he opposed the main characters (with good reason) are fricking moronic but that goes without saying.
I'm just sad how they handled will. He got stuck in the upside down longer than anyone else and survived the experience by being resourceful, and when he comes out kind of fricked up his friends are just like "dude girls!". Idk, I wish they would have done more with him besides just make him gay. The show is really shit at showing the effects of trauma.
A lot of people don't understand difference between antagonist and villain.
> The show is really shit at showing the effects of trauma.
Holy shit Max. Billy dies horribly, and literally in the next scene she is singing a stupid song to make fun of Dustin and his girlfriend. A girlfriend/song whose existence she found out about literally ten minutes before Billy died and that of course in her mind would be tied to the whole situation and surely not a fun memory.
But LOLNEVERENDINGSTORYLOL, I guess, talk about mood whiplash.
Then in the following season they went “Oh, wait a second” and made her suicidal about it.
Go figure.
So was Jason’s split body found in the Creel house post-earthquake?
>violent psychopath
>did nothing wrong
Is there anything similar to Stranger Thing? I mean something where normal people are trying to fight supernatural more or less succesfully. And good quality
>inb4: Stranger Things is shit quality lol
Is he ok?
his upsides are inside down
He kept terrorizing literal kids with high caliber weapons.
I'm a little stupid so can someone explain me what happened with Dustin's teeth in season 3? I mean he had them in S2 but then they disappeared in S3 and nobody comments it.