Surge's future?

What do you guys think of our cute schizo tenric. Do you think she will win in the end of her arc? What's next for her?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you think she will win in the end of her arc? What's next for her?
    she is not going to win and she will just be the cheap copy of metal sonic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      damn bro I mean it's true except the she will be a metal copy. I feel she's has set up to be unique compared to characters like metal and shadow. Her whole jobber schizo thing give her a unique mentality

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Metal Sonic, he hates Sonic more than anyone in the world, he wants to surpass Sonic and has existential problems.
        >Surge, she hates Sonic more than anyone in the world, she wants to surpass Sonic and has existential problems.
        Currently, his only real differences are his appearance and that only metal sonic can have a true one on one with sonic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I mean I wouldn't say that metal is more coming to terms with he's a fake and a robot and breaking away from his programming. Surge is she knows she's fake but wants to know who she was before hand and to basically beat sonic more based on feeling he is responsible for wronging her also she wants to be loved and seen as the hero. Because it's the only way to contextualize her existence and break away from starline and also put herself on the higher moral footing that everyone else.

          >I hope to see how they will see one another after their introductory arc is over.
          wait, are we still in its introductory arc?

          It feels like it but we really shouldn't be I mean surges arc has been like 12+ issues if you count imposter and if you count the foreshadowing and set up it's been like 16+. so it being still mostly set up for her is a bit weird but odds are this is still intro because she not gonna die and she has lost way to many times for this to be her climax arc

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What do you guys think happens next?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Needs an it's jobbing time edit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol this would be perfect hopefully the anon who made it edits

        I just sitting on lunch room and draw

        kek is that faygo? also damn i be drawing at work myself just be chilling at my desk sketching or using my tablet

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Then she cries about her life to either kit or eggman after sonic bodies her.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Eggman would just boot her off a cliff without a care mid dialogue

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            lol true, but i was referencing how vegeta cried about his life to goku but yeah he probably would at best he'd save her to experiment on her for data.

            God i just thought about how now eggman wants her too what if she ends up back in a cell being experimented on as the end of her arc. Jeez for all my surge abuse memes and liking i'd hate to see her in fetal position crying like at the end of this issue but in a eggman jail.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Also what's the opinion on sonurge?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Also what's the opinion on sonurge?
      It's good, even if their canon personalities have very little chemistry so far. I hope to see how they will see one another after their introductory arc is over.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I hope to see how they will see one another after their introductory arc is over.
        wait, are we still in its introductory arc?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Kinda? I'm not sure how you people divide the series but I believe that they haven't ended her initial arc, but to be fair I am several issues behind the current releases.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        True I do love it mostly because sonurge was my first delve into surge and idw sonic i started around when imposter syndrome just ended. But I like it more as just us on the threads posting and meming i don't care if it becomes canon. But hope they have some interesting interactions soon.
        >also this image reminds me to post this greentext which is my fave one from the threads

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Realistically I doubt any ships are getting canonised any time soon with IDW. But we just want material to make our own stuff up in here anyway.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I just love the idea surge used to be a sonic simp

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >me in the 90s if sonic products were widespread.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              they weren't? but i really did all my sonic shit in the 00s so maybe it was more widespread then cause i really did look like that.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Realistically I doubt any ships are getting canonised any time soon with IDW. But we just want material to make our own stuff up in here anyway.

          yeah exactly anon we just need to make more content whether it's greentext or drawings I tend to save my fave greentexts to post because they need love also some of them are hilarious.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's can be pretty cute and wholesome other times it can be kinky and degenerate the perfect ship.

      Surge just needs to accept she's a sonic
      simp

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you think she will win in the end of her arc?
    Against Maurice? No. She will probably kill the platopus tho.
    >What's next for her?
    She will regain her memories and probably enter to the team along with Kit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      what? did i have a stroke Maurice? also how far are you in the story if your referring to starline?
      yeah she will probably gain her memories hopefully not to the point it makes her bland or goody goody

      Kinda? I'm not sure how you people divide the series but I believe that they haven't ended her initial arc, but to be fair I am several issues behind the current releases.

      oh yeah then you need to catch up bro were in issue 54 currently and 55 comes out this month

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >what?
        It's just a reference to sonic "original" name. "Ogilvie Maurice the Hedgehog" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          lol you know with a name like that he never would have caught on also he would get no b***hes

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Vanishes and is never seen again after her arc is done.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that'll never happen at best she'll be gone like 5 issues and be right back to jobbing

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Firstly she'd job

    also draw anon here anyone got any surge ideas I'm willing to draw them also if you could give me a ref if you got it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A few threads ago we saw what their child would look like. Do you think a you could draw them in a "family photo"? Thanks for the drawings you have already made by the way.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah can you show me the kid so i can know what I'm drawing also yeah i enjoy drawing for the threads plus i feel i slowly improve because of it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's in the background of the picture I posted. I'm sorry that is the only pic I have of the kid.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            oh i was hoping their was a better angle or pic lol but I'll work with what i got

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks again buddy.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I found another reference picture, I hope it helps.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This with surge please.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        uh can you example the joke so i can get the vibe?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Sears is/was a department store known for its hardware and order catalog from the 80s.

          Guy in pic is from a commercial where he is sweating due to broken AC and wife is calling the shop. Facial pic would probably be that of absolute fear.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            ik what sears is but for the life of me i haven't seen one since i was like a preteen. but yeah so i guess it's because of the image quality i was confused on what was going on lol. So should i put the sear text below her or something else. also is the amy pic related?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yes Sears at the bottom. I actually didn't think about the face pic so look of Surprise like in pic related or Sonic's face in

              that she is but she's cutest when she jobs

              would be fine.

              Even if you can't get to it, thanks for considering it anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ok anon yeah i haven't had much time mostly cause of work and stuff but hopefully tomorrow I'll have time to finish some stuff up.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >more Sonic and Metal Sonic teamups
    Kino

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      true I really liked metal saving sonic in the metal virus arc, I swear it seemed they were setting up a metal redemption or at least going his own way but with scrapnik it feels his arc is going to be given to scrap mecha. So idk what the future of metal is.

      Also You know surge is gonna job bro she literally couldn't beat either of them solo, so now together their going to rape her. She is going to get the most brutal jumping in comic history
      >"let her get up let her get up"
      >boots her in the face

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >idk what the future of metal is
        To be loyal to Eggman and just be a lovable piece of shit all around.
        >Also You know surge is gonna job bro she literally couldn't beat either of them solo, so now together their going to rape her. She is going to get the most brutal jumping in comic history
        After the last time Surge and Metal Sonic fought there's not a doubt in my mind.
        >Finally, a chall-AAAAIIIIIIEEEEE SAVE ME KIT!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          lol he is a lovable shit I like how he just slaps people that try to talk no jutsu him.

          Also yeah crazy how we all thought kit was just a resident beta but he seems to be more dangerous and more put together than surge saving her multiple times.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Super Metal Sonic and Super Sonic team up
          We know it can happen.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            god if that happens their gonna just torture her and abuse her.

            They take turns holding down surge as the other beats her and breaks her bones. Metal is actually the one to ask about the ethics of this but sonic's like it's fine she's immortal

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Catch the leg and smack them on the ground like a fish

          Hey, Eggman took down Starline that same way

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I really liked metal saving sonic in the metal virus arc, I swear it seemed they were setting up a metal redemption or at least going his own way
        He saved him because Eggman told him to.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh i know that i meant it was a cool scene having metal and sonic running together and having him help sonic out.

          My go his own way had more to do with the foreshadowing of sonic telling metal to go be free and live his own life in the first few issues. Then belle basically kinda connecting with metal and trying to convince him to be his own person. So it seems somethings coming with metal but now i was saying scrapnik makes it all redundant.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >After recovering her original memories Surge joins the team.
    >Sonic constantly teases her with how edgy she was while under the influence of Dr.Starline and how she used to be one of his biggest fangirls before that.
    >One day during sparing session she moans after getting hit.
    >Surge, her face red from embarrassment looks at Sonic.
    >He gives her a wicked smile as one freak recognises the other.
    >"Oh no." Surge says as she realises that the blue blur was about to beat her black and blue.
    >"Oh yes." He says as they both knew she was going to enjoy every second of it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      jegus i forgot how much these threads love surge abuse like come on man but it was a great green text almost wish you'd continue it but it has a great conclusion reminds me of the ones from last thread.

      also I do wonder which is better surge gets her memories back and goes more normal or surge being embarrassed of her past self and being more the current surge?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >also I do wonder which is better surge gets her memories back and goes more normal or surge being embarrassed of her past self and being more the current surge?
        I believe that her memories should maker her less hostile but she should keep her personality.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          yeah exactly i don't want her to become that level of sonic simp or a goody goody. I actually started working on a surge meme about her being a sonic fan/ good girl and then it became a sad depressing comic now idk if i should finish it it's to fricked up

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    She's gonna easily beat the shit out of Sonic whose leg has now fully healed, and then try a lot harder but still beat Sonic when he has to teamup with Metal, and then she's gonna lose because of a last-second for-no-good-reason betrayal by Kit which you can more or less guess from the solicit. And then an explosion happens and typical "but we didn't find their bodies and I doubt that would've killed them" that keeps them away from the screen for Evan's next arc which involves Silver and Blaze.

    And meanwhilst this thread's entire entourage is gonna throw a b***hbaby hissyfit because Sonic got beat up by a girl and they can't self-insert as him anymore if the comic takes away muh powerlevelz. Probably jump through many hoops of cope like last time they were saying he would've beat her without the bum leg or saying he would've built the machine to defeat her without Tails. It will be very funny.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I kinda actually hope she wins as she has jobbed to many times its cute watching her fail but yeah i hope she gets a dub. Also I mean those people saying he could make the machine are crazy i feel people were just surprised how well a bum leg sonic did vs a like 5x more powerful surge ya know.

      Imma be real though surge beating sonic is like not really possible tho it's the sonic comic and she lost her few chances now it's her final issues she can't win fundamentally it's just how the comics work unfortuately.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I expect she will punch and scream all the way through until the writers think its time to give her a redemption, then she joins the good guys and nobody ever mentions the conflict they went through ever again. Because that's what this type of writers would do.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol so basically she'll get her ass beat and job til they feel she can get redeemed. Sounds about right as long as surge gets abused I'm happy

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    she cute

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that she is but she's cutest when she jobs

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic villain
    >winning
    lole
    lmao

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yeah probably not but surge can dream, it's what happens after sonic knocks her out.

      Thanks again buddy.

      your welks, I'll get on it soon

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Are you guys purposely doing that thing where you keep making the same threads and posting the same images over and over until your thread is banned? Because that’s what you’re doing, purposely or not.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's Cinemaphile, what did you expect? originality?

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >le gasp
      Could it be my favorite drawanon???

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        There are few of us autistics running around

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          lol wtf bro but good to see your still drawing the first one is really good your getting better.

          I found another reference picture, I hope it helps.

          cool thanks this will definitely help me out

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I think there's actually four of us I usually show up on the surge threads and the fly threads.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              i'll just call ya camscan anon cause ya use camscan. yeah ik i'm the other drawanon I usually do the surge is a jobber/surge abuse stuff

              >so are you the one that posted all 3 traditional images or are their two different anons that are posting traditional?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              There are few of us autistics running around

              these are the ones I did on the thread

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                oh so i was right but yeah your arts def improving anon, also swear at first couldn't tell if you were a schizo or not last thread lol

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I just sitting on lunch room and draw

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    While we are on the topic, what are your thoughts on Kittsunami? And what do you expect from him later on?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Little submissive weak shota, perfect companion for Surge.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      he's cool actually like him and care more about him than surge sometimes, like he seems more competent and stronger than her at times. I feel starline really fricked him up by not giving him any self preservation or confidence because of that he tends to let surge do dumb shit. Still overall like him and wish he got more focus as a character he's pretty fricked up and depressed he needs a back story way more than surge also overall needs more shine.

      Little submissive weak shota, perfect companion for Surge.

      lol based on these threads and how often surge loses and cries I'd say she's the submissive and weak one

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He is definitely the more competent of the pair even with his submissive nature and lack of self preservation. He still shit next to Tails in universe but I still like the sad little bugger.
        Sadly I don't think he will have any real development untill he recovers his memories and develops more of a personality.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          bro why this image feel like he the rapist/chad /ss/ he be frickin da shit out of that submissive surge. But yeah he will hopefully get more development but i also get the vibe he's gonna go evil and schizo when he gets some memories back idk why just his facial expressions sometimes.

          I like him. It’s nice to have this shy/sweet but mentally fricked and dangerous villain in the mix, he stands out a lot from the rest. He also has cool powers and a great pun name and a great dynamic with surge.

          Being able to talk to the others without always going full villain also gives him a neat angle, unlike surge or eggman where you always know where they stand you dont really know how things are gonna go with kit. I could see him helping people or raging out on them and hurting them. It adds to how unstable the guy feels. You know his priority is always to help surge but when she’s not present he’s the most unpredictable character and that’s fun to read.

          [...]
          She’s “fine” by which I mean I dont have any specific problem with her but she isnt really interesting enough to warrant much focus. She feels more like a game character than any other IDW OCs but I dont know if thats a good thing, just kinda means she’s one-note but without the preexisting nostalgia/investment the game characters have.

          yeah def what makes him so interesting is he's not really evil he would like to just live happily with surge or just not hurt people but he has to follow orders. So he will do whatever he's told but he def has the potential to do anything so he's so much fun because he could suddenly drown surge or stab tails he's the type that i feel will be important in the final issues because he can do anything and completely change the game.

          yeah tangle is to hyper for me but yeah she'd be a great game side character but in a story driven comic she's annoying and just a oc insert to me who has no real depth which makes her feel like a nobody

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        > I'd say she's the submissive and weak one
        Surge would love to be dominated she's just playing hard to get.
        But if Sonic actually fought her at full power...well let's just say the saggy yellow pants were perfect character design.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly like all the memes we started in these threads surge is a bottom trying so hard to be a top kek

          Also sonic at full power would abuse her and destroy her last grasps on sanity and ego
          >Wait I didn't get the saggy pants lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I like him. It’s nice to have this shy/sweet but mentally fricked and dangerous villain in the mix, he stands out a lot from the rest. He also has cool powers and a great pun name and a great dynamic with surge.

      Being able to talk to the others without always going full villain also gives him a neat angle, unlike surge or eggman where you always know where they stand you dont really know how things are gonna go with kit. I could see him helping people or raging out on them and hurting them. It adds to how unstable the guy feels. You know his priority is always to help surge but when she’s not present he’s the most unpredictable character and that’s fun to read.

      Any thoughts on this lovely lemur?

      She’s “fine” by which I mean I dont have any specific problem with her but she isnt really interesting enough to warrant much focus. She feels more like a game character than any other IDW OCs but I dont know if thats a good thing, just kinda means she’s one-note but without the preexisting nostalgia/investment the game characters have.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I like the Headcanon that he was a psychopath in his previous life.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that is an interesting one for sure. It would really be surprising if he went full schizo villain when he gets his memories back i almost don't even suspect it but would be cool.

        He does have his moments where he seems more dangerous than surge and most other characters. He also has those dark eye anime esque moments like he up to something.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I think his character arc will be to go full toxic relationship and lock Surge in a giant jar for her protection, as he would see it.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Any thoughts on this lovely lemur?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      tangle sucks, learning she was made canon broke my heart. She's mostly just to hyper and feels like a self insert for the fans

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      She is extremely bland, generic as can be and only really exists for yuribait

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        true i really don't like her and whisper they both are just to bland and kinda useless

        battered
        beaten
        belittled
        berated
        bested
        bonked
        boinked
        bummed
        and absolutely BLOWN the frick out

        damn she in for a bad time sonic really gonna beat her ass
        >hey jobber guess what?
        >.......w...w...what
        >my legs better
        >*sounds of the worst asswhooping in history*

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Whisper is better and whisper isn't all that great

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Best girl and I would blow nut after nut inter her holes if given the chance.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        jeez but this seems to be the only reason people like tangles, you bastards draw her thicc asf

        >tangles is a pump and dump type girl tho

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    battered
    beaten
    belittled
    berated
    bested
    bonked
    boinked
    bummed
    and absolutely BLOWN the frick out

  18. 1 year ago
    Boco

    Too popular to kill, but she ain't winning anytime soon.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      she's def not gonna die especially since starline is dead she'll probably be the new starline and be the resident secondary villain who's trying to also beat sonic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They better bring him back, his absence is already felt

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Really starline was cool but surge is better she has more potential and is more complex also not just another genius

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Starlines is very tied to 2 things and that is his relationship to eggman and his meta commentary on the nature of how the comic story has to work.
            Outside that he is ok but I don't see where else he would have to go.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              when did he do meta commentary on the comic?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He criticises the whole cyclically of sonic and eggmen clashes and how little they mean in the grand scheme of things, the failings of robotinik as a villain in terms of practicality and strategy.
                That was exemplified by the aftermath of the Metal Virus being incredibly tame all things considered.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Oh like that I thought you meant like deadpool. But yeah i found it fun but i feel his end was actually well done because for all his meta he couldn't see his own role in things and how he was also obsessed.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      To cringe to live to based to die

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        She's the perfect villian for sonic fast enough to be fun to beat up and smart and wienery enough for banter and bullying

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          and sexy enough to be sweaty and bruised after each bought

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            god that would be the perfect way to see surge. I feel at some point in a fight we'd see surge crying and trying her best to fight sonic realizing her stamina is lower as well as her speed. she has no chance and wants to give up

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lol the text didn't come through basically a comic based off of that naked gun scene with surge the accident prone jobber

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Surge just hide a Pipebomb in Sonic's mailbox?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      She's too dumb also she seems like the type that loves to scrap

      >also if she did it would just somehow blow up in her face lol

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    hopefully lovemaking of some sort

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It won't be any love tons of frickin those brutal and painful.

      I'm already tired of those guys, even though I like Surge's design. I read it for Whisper and Tangle, everyone else is boring. Sonic and his friends are just so dead and passed.

      you read it for tangle and whisper? I mean their ok at best, surge is the best thing since metal virus. tangle and whisper are pretty middling

  22. 1 year ago
    Bushy

    I'm already tired of those guys, even though I like Surge's design. I read it for Whisper and Tangle, everyone else is boring. Sonic and his friends are just so dead and passed.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Like I said in the last thread, she's gonna get the upper hand, schizo out, start jobbing while her hallucination mocks her for losing focus, then have a meltdown frying her dynamo cage in the process. She loses the fight, but gets to save face by blaming it on the hallucinations the dynamo caused, and the seeds get planted for Sonic to help her with her latent self doubt (because let's face it, Ian is going to redeem her whether we like it or not).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Ian is going to redeem her whether we like it or not
      Ian specifically said he didn't want to redeem her because he wanted more villains

      If she gets redeemed, you can blame Evans

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He also said Tangle and Whisper were just friends.
        Ian's consistent about going for east fan pandering.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          well sonic is originally a japanese character meant to rival Mario and other such icons. So it makes sense also let's be real only a select few buy comics in the us while just about everyone buys manga in japan. Shit manga is being bought more in the US than comics now because manga and anime is cool while comics are seen as lame.

          I'd rather they just come out as gay tho just for the seething i mean i already hate both but them being gay would just make them 100% troll characters in my eyes just want to see /co's reaction

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I just hope next time she loses with a bit of grace.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      jeez i mean i respect this and get it but damn I hope they get a little more freedom and can do her arc justice but yeah sonic is locked in a permanent stagnant character situation.

      [...]
      yeah basically 100% i think they'll keep her around for a few more issues maybe another 10 issue arc and a side story about her. But yeah in the end she will get redeemed and become another of sonics redeemed b***hes.
      [...]
      really but didn't ian say she hadn't done anything irredeemable yet, I assumed that was his way of saying she could be saved. But fingers crossed we do need more decent villains that don't immediately get ko'd

      >Q:I have heard somewhere and don't remember if it's correct or not but are surge and kit confirmed forever antagonists or can they be redeemed or become anti-heroes like shadow? Also what are their ages?
      Ian: First off, Surge is comparable in age to Sonic, Knuckles, Shadow, and Kit is comparable to Tails and Cream and the other youngins.
      Kyle: Kit is whatever age Surge tells him. [Laughter]
      Ian: As for "forever antagonist", I said at one point that I don't want them to be redeemed in the near future just because there are so many antagonist-turned-rivals that it's tiresome. Kind of Gemerl, Shadow, Rouge, Chaos, Knuckles, Jet. Let's have them just be bad, let's have some villains, actual villains. That being said I'm not lead writer on the book and if Evan were to decide to take them in that direction, I don't want people to go "Oh Evan's betraying what Ian intended for the book!" No no stop right there. I'm prophesizing this and I'm telling you here in the long long ago you future children: shut up.
      Kyle: It won't work Ian.
      Ian: I know. Maybe I'll change my tune down the line but for right now they've just shown up, they haven't even met Sonic and Tails yet. I think it's too early to start thinking about 'oh but what if they turn semi-good or somewhat redeemable or at least not full-on villains'. They haven't even been villains yet. Let them be bad.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that's great to hear also ian isn't in charge? I swore i heard he was the idw comic lead writer but yeah he may have predicted it because the redemption is very apparent. I mean surge jobbing constantly crying in a dark room and overall going crazier and crazier.

        Hopefully he gets the reigns back and can fix this he gets a lot of hate in the idw threads but he hasn't been in charge for a sec now that i think about it. Evans has been writing a lot of this arc which is weird since ian made them.

        >Ma'am I don't think this is ok
        >why not kit *touching him inappropriately*
        >Because I'm underage
        >YOUR AS OLD AS I SAY YOU ARE UNDERSTAND?
        >.....y..y...yes...s..urge

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >also ian isn't in charge?
          At the end of Metal Virus Evan was made head writer.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            damn why? also is evan any good i only really know ian.

            >damn how bad was metal virus received for that to happen lol

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >damn why?
              Don't know, they never gave a reason. Ian has never implied it was because of MV though.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                welp i know he gets hate but i felt ian metal virus was an interesting concept and a good way to work with sonic. For once he was weakened and it was the perfect he can't save everyone situation.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                by the way do you know if evan is any good?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on your tastes. You'll just have to read for yourself.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i mean i have been reading idw but idk anything else he's made.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The only thing she has written before IDW is a Silver arc in Archie.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >she
                ?????????????????????
                Evan is a girl also what silver arc?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Evan is a girl
                Yes
                >also what silver arc?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                thanks anon just surprised someone named evan is a girl also she seems kinda young to be head writer

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I used to think that Tracy Yardley's a woman and Evan Stanley's a guy. I assume a lot of other people must've mistaken them too. Their names are somewhat unusual for their respective genders.

                >she seems kinda young to be head writer
                Stanley's currently 30 years old. Flynn was 24 when he became the head writer of Archie Sonic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                wow i guess i'm just dumb, also yeah names like that are confusing to me but eh to each their own or to each parent their own.

                Also crazy i guess i just saw 90s and still thought that was young also damn really interesting see such talent people moving to a pretty significant position but 30s not that young true.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i know shes gonna lose it not a suprise i just hope that kit and surge leave the evil side and go on a trip together to find out more of their past and learn more about their powers so they can master it and then fight sonic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      sorry i forgot to add 'temporarily leave the evil side '

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol i would love some road trip with kit and surge i almost feel because of how the series work they'd shoe horn sonic and tails in. Basically a typical oh a friendship is growing then a misunderstanding or surges family is shit or moved on then sonic shows up and tries to comfort her but she lashes out and basically feels fighting sonic and being the villain is all she has.

      I just hope next time she loses with a bit of grace.

      Surge losing with grace? Come on now anon you know better at best she won't die for the third time.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >lol i would love some road trip with kit and surge i almost feel because of how the series work they'd shoe horn sonic and tails in. Basically a typical oh a friendship is growing then a misunderstanding or surges family is shit or moved on then sonic shows up and tries to comfort her but she lashes out and basically feels fighting sonic and being the villain is all she has.
        Im not talking about an actual road trip im talking about a journey both kit and surge have to go though to find out more about their past and have scenes where kit learns how to use his water powers to turn things into ice and surge learning how to fully master her light powers

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ik but i just called it a road trip lol. I just assumed it would involve them also finding themselves out but also searching for their families.

          Lol i actually used to want surge to get stronger but the meme's of her being a weak abuse magnet make me want her to job everytime. I swear the nuts and bolts broke me and now in my head she's just the resident jobber.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sounds like you just don't !one the franchise anymore.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have questions Because about the implication?

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    jeez i mean i respect this and get it but damn I hope they get a little more freedom and can do her arc justice but yeah sonic is locked in a permanent stagnant character situation.

    Like I said in the last thread, she's gonna get the upper hand, schizo out, start jobbing while her hallucination mocks her for losing focus, then have a meltdown frying her dynamo cage in the process. She loses the fight, but gets to save face by blaming it on the hallucinations the dynamo caused, and the seeds get planted for Sonic to help her with her latent self doubt (because let's face it, Ian is going to redeem her whether we like it or not).

    yeah basically 100% i think they'll keep her around for a few more issues maybe another 10 issue arc and a side story about her. But yeah in the end she will get redeemed and become another of sonics redeemed b***hes.

    >Ian is going to redeem her whether we like it or not
    Ian specifically said he didn't want to redeem her because he wanted more villains

    If she gets redeemed, you can blame Evans

    really but didn't ian say she hadn't done anything irredeemable yet, I assumed that was his way of saying she could be saved. But fingers crossed we do need more decent villains that don't immediately get ko'd

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    True I still find joy in it at times especially hype for surge and frontier it's something I'm really looking for too so it seems they can still have a hit or two.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's just surge's destiny to be a jobber

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If Tangle is canon, does that mean Surge is canon too?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      surge will 100% become canon if tangle is? Odds are the game was worked on while surge didn't exist or wasn't in development. I'm more surprised whisper isn't canon?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      surge will 100% become canon if tangle is? Odds are the game was worked on while surge didn't exist or wasn't in development. I'm more surprised whisper isn't canon?

      What the frick are you people talking about?

      I have questions Because about the implication?

      Surge is just Scourge rule 63.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >What the frick are you people talking about?
        Tangle is namedropped in Frontiers.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tangle seems more like a damn Poppy O'Possum character, with her super-durable, extendable tail-hand gimmick. Not that that's a bad thing.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            this is true she really is durable i bet they'll have her somehow beat surge or almost beat surge. Which instead of raising tangle it actually makes surge look worse.

            >They're still trying to make her look threatening
            Ooohh, i'm so scared!! I think she's gonna trip on a banana peel this time!

            lol so true she has no hope of being intimidating at this point unless they bite the bullet and let her kill someone. An it has to be someone relevant like belle if she killed belle i feel Cinemaphile would bow and worship the ground she walks on.

            She's to much of a comical jobber now she falls all over herself. Then in the same issue they showed her getting bucketed and blushing she's built to be abused and bullied.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Ik i was meming does this imply scourage is trans because they walk into a girl store and comes out a girl. but i was mostly just looking for a excuse to use the meme.

        Yeah basically they made tangle canon by making her exist in the game which canonized her because games are the main canon.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ok dumb idea but do you guys think a game based on idw comics like metal virus would be good? or the surge arc. Feel it could use a few more arcs but i feel metal virus would be interesting purely to see how they do it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It would be neat. no idea how the frick it would play out but im not a developer.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah idk i said it should be openworld like frontier just have it be sonic has to keep moving to burn off the virus and have it be a interesting dynamic to keep yourself from being cornered and transformed. Also maybe have items that can hold the virus off outside of missions to get some time to free roam and explore.

        IDW comics have good shit that would be great in games, but it'll never happen. We will never get a second Turtles Tournament Fighters with the cast of the IDW comic, just lame shit from subdevs who get the turtles license (we were LUCKY with Revenge of The Shredder, although I wish it was based on IDW instead of that juvenile cartoon, and The Cowabunga Collection). Sega will continue to go on ruining Sonic games and wondering what they're doing wrong, while not listening to fans who are TELLING them in clear and concise language.

        yeah I saw all over twitter them talking about ian and the game now my hopes are low but I'm still gonna play the frick out of frontier. Over all their is tons of content both in archie and idw that would be interesting games, more idw than archie as archie is mostly out of play and to batshit to make a coherent game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      IDW comics have good shit that would be great in games, but it'll never happen. We will never get a second Turtles Tournament Fighters with the cast of the IDW comic, just lame shit from subdevs who get the turtles license (we were LUCKY with Revenge of The Shredder, although I wish it was based on IDW instead of that juvenile cartoon, and The Cowabunga Collection). Sega will continue to go on ruining Sonic games and wondering what they're doing wrong, while not listening to fans who are TELLING them in clear and concise language.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I am sad I missed the storytime

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that's why we have these threads bro, so you can have some discussions outside of it. But that's just the cover for 55 or 56 they haven't come out yet

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Redemption by suicide, stopping some big catastrophe she cause before she had a breakthrough and realized everything was because of how she chose to react, instead of having an external cause. Sonic, of course, smirks, then quips about getting something to eat or b***hes about cleaning up the fallout cuz he's a sociopath.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol jeez why is absolute freedom sonic has become a menace but my fave character. Like you guys portray him like a frickin demon. I can just imagine him knowing he could go super to stop the threat but he basically like a devil whispering in surges ear to kill herself. Then tails is like sonic couldn't you have stopped it he's like yeah i could have.

      >she def ain't going to die she's to popular and has to much set up.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >They're still trying to make her look threatening
    Ooohh, i'm so scared!! I think she's gonna trip on a banana peel this time!

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What do you guys think happens next?

    It's just surge's destiny to be a jobber

    why do all these feel like they could link together to form a little comic story kek

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I really hate that tulpa Starline bullies Surge. It makes no sense, Starline was never openly abusive to Surge and Kitt, he treated them kindly on the surface. They only learned of his true nature by watching his youtube channel, and even then he’s not like ghost Starline, he overwrote her memories but he seemed proud of his experiments in his own twisted way.
    Evan treats Starline like he was Surge’s abusive Dad who constantly insulted and belittled her throughout her entire life.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yeah as some people say it feels it should be sonic seeing as from her perspective he just beat and destroyed/belittled her ideology and kinda led to her temporary death. But yeah over all makes more sense for a guy that has been brainwashed into her head being her inner skeptic

      I mean starline def fricked them up tho also i mean we don't know for sure seeing as they had been trained and brainwash for at least 60days which means for months they were being killed and pushed to their physical and mental limits. It's hard to say how bad he truly was but it makes for her to hate him, but your right her fear and care for his opinion is dumb she was always outwardly defiant of him. She even fought back never showed any fear of him and actively easily said "man frick this guy" she never had loyalty or respect for him. He works to a degree but it feel like a 180 with no set up.

      >it still makes for a great meme lol

      Firstly she'd job

      also draw anon here anyone got any surge ideas I'm willing to draw them also if you could give me a ref if you got it
      >also this all goes into the meme of surge being a jobber and a secret bottom, she's portrayed as so frickin sensitive compared to in imposter syndrome lol

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    " Females generally have 12 nipples, but up to 29 have been recorded."

    https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Tenrec_ecaudatus/

    where the tenrec booba?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why do you people know this and stop ruining my fantasy. In the series she has two lol wtf are you guys on

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you bring this up every thread for Surge specifically but you never mention how hedgehogs cover themselves in shit for defense or how foxes piss on their food or how echidnas have four dicks

      If you're gonna shit on characters for their animal abilities at least do it equally

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i thought enchidnas had a 4 headed dick not 4 dicks??? also yeah animals are weird not every animal has a cool defense mechanism.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Multiboob is my fetish and I will draw fat multiboob Surge later just for this post.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    jeez, this seems to be the favorited image I've drawn to you anon's even though it wasn't even that good.

    But she def does need some rape correction i kinda thought it was implied tho lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's the concept and inplications that makes me love it, anon. Surge being bullied and abused by Sonic just makes for natutally great stuff. As saif before, she's a bottom that tries way too hard to be a top

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol well that's fun and i'm happy you enjoyed it i don't even know if the og anons that asked ever saw it. One asked for surge in a rear naked choke the other asked for sonics dick poking at her then the rest is art history.

        Lol she is a certified bottom poor thing she tries to hard. She def cuter being abused and bullied. I was actually working on another of these comics but I've got like 3 request to finish first. But we need to get more draw anons to draw surge abuse it's peak

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We’ve had this exact thread 3 times over. You gays are even posting the exact same images.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you think she will win in the end of her arc?
    I think she will go beyond her limits to curbstomp Sonic for about five seconds before her brain, nanobots and nervous system permanently fry because of the constant overload and she turns into a drooling vegetable unable to move or do anything except eternally hallucinate with a smug Starline mocking her forever and ever.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      jesus anon i mean odds are that's what will happen but ya could have sugarcoated it slightly like damn made me feel all bad for her. At best tho she will just frick herself and either fry herself to be lower tier so more of a tangle level threat or she will fry her nano bots so she can die or be injured long term.

      > eternally hallucinate with a smug Starline mocking her forever and ever.
      this part reminds me of a recent surge fic i read god why is being surge suffering

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can you stop with the fricking endless Surge threads?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, this surge of activity can get tiresome.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        oh you

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol that was a good one, but why keep complaining let peeps enjoy the threads, theirs been like 4 sonic storytimes in the last 6 days.

        oh you

        where'd you get that sally from it's a nice style

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don't remember it's in my sonic folder

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            damn I'm the same tho i have an entire surge folder of course for me it's more for reference

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              No shit you're that homie making these fricking endless threads

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                actually i'm the draw anon lol, I'm innocent for the most part. At best I probably keep them going by feeding the fire also keeping discussions going. My surge folder is for references for my drawing but i will admit i made the first surge thread and it's kind of kept going but hey i like drawing surge so I'm cool with it an it also let's me deliver my requests so win win. Just enjoy it anon were all having fun here

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Stick your dick inside of Surge
    >Die of electroshock

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's a risk a true man would be willing to take

      >also let's be real her walmart brand electricity can't even kill mobian civilians i think we'll be fine

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Snootgame guy

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          who?

          Multiboob is my fetish and I will draw fat multiboob Surge later just for this post.

          no anon please also why is multi boob so popular i swear multi boob is weird not even like i cringe more just like it goes into that wow that's just weird and bland. Why can't you guys just be normal and want to frick the 2-3 foot tall teenage anthro girl

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else like sonic x surge really love the concept. Liked how the last thread was a little more wholesome I don't want surge to get abused so much

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So what does everyone think of Frontiers, I've played thirty minutes and I enjoyed it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i was gonna ask this i'm about to go buy it now lol but can't decide whether to get it on my switch or steam deck.

      Heard it's not compatible on the deck yet but some articles say it is. Also is their any multiplayer aspect like ranks or co-op or just straight single player?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm having fun. Bit too easy though. Might have to switch to Hard.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        is the high speed or the basic better?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Haven't played basic so can't tell ya.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            well it's cool thanks anyway i was thinking of basic because i haven't played a sonic game in a sec

            High speed

            thanks anon that's probably what I'll pick

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >well it's cool thanks anyway i was thinking of basic because i haven't played a sonic game in a sec
              I haven't either but I'm doing pretty good so far on speed.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                cool that's what i decided to go with

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          High speed

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I thought it's fun but it easy to get lost it took me 5 hours on the 3rd zone because they didn't make it obvious enough for how get to a certain Sky Island and talk to somebody.

      Also there's a few bugs jankiness but it's still pretty fun.

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Do we know if IDW is going to do anything with Frontiers? Seems like after this arc with Surge, it would make sense to have a timeskip of some kind

    • 1 year ago
      Boco

      If they were going to do an adaptation they would have said so by now. So probably not.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      haven't played yet but hopefully they don't expose a e-girl to Cinemaphile and sonic fans they will either sperg like with liza or get super ooohhhga about her and draw tons of porn and other weird stuff.

      If they were going to do an adaptation they would have said so by now. So probably not.

      maybe after the tangle and whisper mini arc but odds are they'll do something with belle and scrapnik

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Q:What are the chances we can expect Sage or any characters that debut in Frontiers to get featured in future issues?
      Ian: I honestly don't know. Normally I would say don't hold your breath because that's kind of how it was in the Archie days. You needed like at least a year for things to get some dust on them before we could play with them, but we are in a new era of approvals and allowances so I don't know. We'll find out together.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol that sounds both cool and worrisome like they'd just shove her in randomly. Deadass may take surges spot as a villain being a game villain meaning she takes priority. I both want and don't want her depends on how i feel about the game.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Aval0nx leaked what's next for her.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Aval0nx
      who?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Babysitting Cream guy.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Babysitting Cream
          i'm not a weird so i didn't know what this was also i had the fear of god in me because i half thought that was the title of that one tails comic.
          >so did he actually have leaks or was that just a troll?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I would assume the latter because he's just a porn artist.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              welp weird joke i guess but we can predict her ending

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Where can I read her issues for free so i can draw them kissing

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      read/comics/online/
      imposter syndrome
      48-54 mainline

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How do you people feel about Mr.Tinker and Belle? I just wished we got more out of them but I get that the story was best served by getting them out of the way early on.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Mr. Tinker is a concept I wish was explored more but it wasn't for obvious reasons.

      Belle is the only IDW character I'd call an outright miss. Her base concept is interesting but they beat the same character points into the ground over the course of her arc, and personality wise she's just not interesting. Like at least Whisper is an autist and Tangle is hyper, so there's potential for fun stuff. People b***h about how much Whisper cries, but Belle is way fricking worse about it.

      Crazy thing is that I know I'm not alone in this, as it feels like the moment Surge/Kit were revealed, Belle was practically forgotten by the comic and fandom alike

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Mr. Tinker is a concept I wish was explored more but it wasn't for obvious reasons.

      Belle is the only IDW character I'd call an outright miss. Her base concept is interesting but they beat the same character points into the ground over the course of her arc, and personality wise she's just not interesting. Like at least Whisper is an autist and Tangle is hyper, so there's potential for fun stuff. People b***h about how much Whisper cries, but Belle is way fricking worse about it.

      Crazy thing is that I know I'm not alone in this, as it feels like the moment Surge/Kit were revealed, Belle was practically forgotten by the comic and fandom alike

      >People b***h about how much Whisper cries, but Belle is way fricking worse about it.
      That's just saying "Jeffrey Dahmer killed 20 people and Ted Bundy killed 30, so Dahmer is a better person."

      Both Belle and Whisper are boring whiners with lame angsty backstories that have nothing to do with anything the actual cast is up to.

      Whisper's evil octopus OC nemesis has the amazing power of shapeshifting and owning a knife, so it's impossible to take him seriously as a threat next to Eggman or the Zeti.

      Belle spent months hiding the shameful "secret" of her origin, which was frick-obvious to anyone reading the comic. And since Starline's dead and Mr. Tinker no longer exists, she's now just another redundant "techie" character like Rotor or Uncle Chuck or Tommy Turtle or Sally or Nicole or....you see where I'm going with this.

      If a villain came along and crispy-fried them both it'd do wonders for the comic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Look at those breasts

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Here's my argument: at least in theory, Mimic as a villain works perfectly fine, especially since the comic/Sonic in general lacks "small time", personal villains. and he's meant to be more of that than a big arc villain.

        Not only that, but because Mimic is a constant (at least for now), he and Whisper's game of cat and mouse can continue to evolve and, writing willing, add some genuine tension and personal stakes. Like regardless of the execution, you can at least DO THINGS with this, and it's a dynamic that's unique to Whisper. Like, Whisper is far from perfect in execution, and she basically exists to be sad and gay, but she's at least got more than one thing going on.

        The thing with Belle is that not only can her SINGLE FRICKING DYNAMIC never really evolve in an interesting way past the most predictable shit ever (because Mr. Tinker can never come back), but "Eggman robot become good" was already long, LONG played out by the time she was introduced, and comparing her deal to Gamma or OVA Metal Sonic or even Emerl (He barely counts but he still has an arc of "starts bad becomes good" or some variation thereof) makes her look outright pathetic. And since she had her big moment, now she's just another tech character in a franchise that's oversaturated with the damn things

        Putting all this aside, we all know that the best IDW character is Clutch

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Mimic vs. Whisper
          True, that could be interesting, but you'd have to really up the stakes. Like, give Mimic some more powers/weapons/evil Wisps to toss at Whisper, or have him kill Tangle or something. I'm not sure if SEGA even allows this comic to have tough villains other than Eggman.

          >Belle is tired and cliche, even lacking Whisper's sole possibly interesting trait
          That I'll agree with.

          >spoiler
          Honestly, I'm trying to disagree with you, and I can't, really. He's the closest thing to a menacing new villain we have (even if he's not that powerful) just because he's such a ruthless sleaze.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >True, that could be interesting, but you'd have to really up the stakes.
            Oh that I agree with. The issue is I don't think Evan would have the balls to even pretend to try and kill Tangle/Jewel/anyone that mattered. Ian maybe because he's killed and will kill again, but not Evan
            >More powers/weapons/evil Wisps
            See, I think the solution here is to buff his shapeshifting. Right now he can only take the form of someone like Sonic or Tails, so he isn't that big a threat. But the moment he can use those powers, even momentarily? Suddenly he's a lot more of a threat, and a much, MUCH scarier one. Or if you don't wanna go that far, remove his tells.
            >I'm not sure if SEGA even allows this comic to have tough villains other than Eggman.
            I'm sure they allow it, they just don't want anyone outright supplanting him permanently.
            >Honestly, I'm trying to disagree with you, and I can't, really. He's the closest thing to a menacing new villain we have (even if he's not that powerful) just because he's such a ruthless sleaze.
            He's also a rarely utilized kind of villain for this franchise (organized crime or the closest thing to it), he's got a cool weapon, a nasty gimmick, and now he has the lovable henchmen of Rough and Tumble

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Or if you don't wanna go that far, remove his tells.
              The tells don't exist in-universe, they're just there because Sega doesn't want people to be confused when "Sonic" does something evil.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Well there is a chance that Belle could evolve or at least have a few more interesting interactions since Sonic Frontiers bring up a few interesting things to say the least
          Pic related

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            yeah best they could do is make her a sec starline and have her go evil or schizo like surge and the likes but we'd probably just want sonic to job her and kill her because she's lost all her hype and love

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Metal is a Donald fan
            Can one robot be this awesome?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              no no they can't only metal, and that's because he's not a robot he's sonic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I got the vibe they realized how useless they were and mostly dropped belle's plot threads but now don't know what to do with her. tinker was a good concept for making sonic valid and showing that he's right villains can change (feel it would have hit harder if eggman was more conscious rather than just amnestic )

      Mr. Tinker is a concept I wish was explored more but it wasn't for obvious reasons.

      Belle is the only IDW character I'd call an outright miss. Her base concept is interesting but they beat the same character points into the ground over the course of her arc, and personality wise she's just not interesting. Like at least Whisper is an autist and Tangle is hyper, so there's potential for fun stuff. People b***h about how much Whisper cries, but Belle is way fricking worse about it.

      Crazy thing is that I know I'm not alone in this, as it feels like the moment Surge/Kit were revealed, Belle was practically forgotten by the comic and fandom alike

      exactly, nah i think it's because whisper shows so much strong emotion like her schizo screams and constantly showing her fangs. I feel it's because non of the game characters could so she's created specifically to be the screamer. Yeah belle is the worst idw character so far no real vibe or importance but belle does cry a lot idk who cries more. someone should make a meme of them in a cry contest or crying next to each with the text cry buddies.

      [...]
      >People b***h about how much Whisper cries, but Belle is way fricking worse about it.
      That's just saying "Jeffrey Dahmer killed 20 people and Ted Bundy killed 30, so Dahmer is a better person."

      Both Belle and Whisper are boring whiners with lame angsty backstories that have nothing to do with anything the actual cast is up to.

      Whisper's evil octopus OC nemesis has the amazing power of shapeshifting and owning a knife, so it's impossible to take him seriously as a threat next to Eggman or the Zeti.

      Belle spent months hiding the shameful "secret" of her origin, which was frick-obvious to anyone reading the comic. And since Starline's dead and Mr. Tinker no longer exists, she's now just another redundant "techie" character like Rotor or Uncle Chuck or Tommy Turtle or Sally or Nicole or....you see where I'm going with this.

      If a villain came along and crispy-fried them both it'd do wonders for the comic.

      yeah they both crying losers, also give belle some respect whispers backstory is 1000x edgier and angsty. I'll admit them both dying would be better than worse. Crazy enough i do like mimic he had a cool intro and if he was allowed to kill he'd actually be badass

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Maybe she'll let you lick her tears out of her cleavage if you verbally abuse her enough.
    Shadow should do that while Sonic humbles down Surge in another room.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      IDW Shadow would probably try but then accidentally bite her or something and then job to her when she gets mad.

      [...]
      Why do they have to be fanfics? Why can't they be official? Why can't I have a full-fledged rag where Sonic just beats the shit out of Surge, breaking every bone in her hands one by one slowly, painfully, but every time she tries to stop him, she's just too slow, only witnessing the mirage of his sneer as he snaps another one of her fingers. He's too fast to even let her caress it, to try and heal her own pain; oh, no, he takes her shattered, bruised, swollen, deformed, tender hand into his own strong, masculine one, holding it sweetly at first, putting his other hand on her cheek, using his thumb to wipe away some of her tears. "C'mon, Surge," he tells her quietly, "There's no need to cry. I'm not like Starline. After all... I'm real."

      Suddenly, he clamps down his grip like a vise, and she screams in agony, her bloated face contorted as she tries to jerk away from him. The reaction is involuntary, unintended, as she uses her super-speed to try and pull away, accidentally pulling her arm right out of its socket. The pain is blinding, white-hot and searing, causing her to black out from the excruciating stimulation. Finally, she is at peace. Not even the mad doctor can harm her.

      When she does finally come to, she feels... wrong. Her head aches, constantly slamming against something metal behind her. She tries to stop moving, but she can't. She can barely see anything, her eyes swollen from her tears. She can't feel one of her arms, while the other one is numb, held over her head by some flimsy rope. Eventually, her vision sets, and she sees Sonic on top of her, violating her. He laughs, "Too easy! C'mon, step it up!"

      With his own super-speed, he thrusts in and out of her tight, bloody, virginal pussy at a rate that would obliterate the tissue of any other creature alive. Her eyes roll back into her head once more, not from the pain of her shattered hymen, but from unbelievable ecstasy as she has multiple orgasms from his hyper-stimulation...

      The saddest thing is that this post isn't all that different to the hurt/comfort crap we get from Whisper, or Surge's hallucinations of Starline.

      It's kind of amazing how quickly Surge went from Bad Girl to Utter Fricking Loser on here. Kinda like Zombot Shadow all over again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol shadow abuses whisper sonic abuses surge i can agree with this anon. both of them are jobber anyway damn the too abuse magnets fought and basically jobbed to each other lol.

      >Mimic vs. Whisper
      True, that could be interesting, but you'd have to really up the stakes. Like, give Mimic some more powers/weapons/evil Wisps to toss at Whisper, or have him kill Tangle or something. I'm not sure if SEGA even allows this comic to have tough villains other than Eggman.

      >Belle is tired and cliche, even lacking Whisper's sole possibly interesting trait
      That I'll agree with.

      >spoiler
      Honestly, I'm trying to disagree with you, and I can't, really. He's the closest thing to a menacing new villain we have (even if he's not that powerful) just because he's such a ruthless sleaze.

      yeah mimic v whisper needs to be more dark since their origin is more angsty. belle sucks
      clutch isn't my fave but he really is the only villain til now doing anything

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why do they have to be fanfics? Why can't they be official? Why can't I have a full-fledged rag where Sonic just beats the shit out of Surge, breaking every bone in her hands one by one slowly, painfully, but every time she tries to stop him, she's just too slow, only witnessing the mirage of his sneer as he snaps another one of her fingers. He's too fast to even let her caress it, to try and heal her own pain; oh, no, he takes her shattered, bruised, swollen, deformed, tender hand into his own strong, masculine one, holding it sweetly at first, putting his other hand on her cheek, using his thumb to wipe away some of her tears. "C'mon, Surge," he tells her quietly, "There's no need to cry. I'm not like Starline. After all... I'm real."

    Suddenly, he clamps down his grip like a vise, and she screams in agony, her bloated face contorted as she tries to jerk away from him. The reaction is involuntary, unintended, as she uses her super-speed to try and pull away, accidentally pulling her arm right out of its socket. The pain is blinding, white-hot and searing, causing her to black out from the excruciating stimulation. Finally, she is at peace. Not even the mad doctor can harm her.

    When she does finally come to, she feels... wrong. Her head aches, constantly slamming against something metal behind her. She tries to stop moving, but she can't. She can barely see anything, her eyes swollen from her tears. She can't feel one of her arms, while the other one is numb, held over her head by some flimsy rope. Eventually, her vision sets, and she sees Sonic on top of her, violating her. He laughs, "Too easy! C'mon, step it up!"

    With his own super-speed, he thrusts in and out of her tight, bloody, virginal pussy at a rate that would obliterate the tissue of any other creature alive. Her eyes roll back into her head once more, not from the pain of her shattered hymen, but from unbelievable ecstasy as she has multiple orgasms from his hyper-stimulation...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      jeez anon, firstly bro just make the fanfic at this point. Secondly I *cough* would like to read more or another I do enjoy surge abuse. Thirdly i swear i love how you guys are able to miss this weird sociopathic sonic with being caring or trying to be nice while also horrifically abusive it reminds me of one idea another anon pitched a few threads ago. but yeah make more you coward whether it's more of this or another one.

      you should just post on ao3 you'd probably start the sonicx surge ship and then we'd get more content from the shippers who get obsessed with a concept be the change you want to see anon.

      IDW Shadow would probably try but then accidentally bite her or something and then job to her when she gets mad.

      [...]
      The saddest thing is that this post isn't all that different to the hurt/comfort crap we get from Whisper, or Surge's hallucinations of Starline.

      It's kind of amazing how quickly Surge went from Bad Girl to Utter Fricking Loser on here. Kinda like Zombot Shadow all over again.

      shadow beats and makes whisper cry then jobs makes scene in idw.

      lol wait their are whisper fanfics like this(link). yeah with the surge thing it mostly was mostly how easily she lost in 50 and also peeps like myself drawing surge abuse/surge crying and calling her a jobber. also I may or may not have been the one last thread that started the joke "surge is a bottom trying so hard to be a top". But hey we all enjoy surge jobbing and getting abused

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Her and kit are gonna be b tier villains who show up every once in awhile to be a bit of a deal and pget character arc. We may see who they were before ( I think and hope their sonic and Tails fans who thought they could be heroes like their heroes) but I don't think they're going to get redeemed. They may make It to a mobile game and a possible mention in Sonic Frontier DLC (or any other Sonic game Ian Flynn is going to work on) if their popularity keeps up.

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    yeah i've noticed this whisper has more porn and lewdish fanart than tangle, seems you guys like your cute traumatised waifu crazy their isn't abuse art of whisper most is wholesome no abuse I've ever seen in the fanart mostly anons comforting her.

    Look at those breasts

    horny

    [...]

    yeah in reality characters need to cry and have a bad time but as a kid archie lost me because of all the damn melodrama i want to see sonic v scourage/shadow but no sally or amy. it def slows the comic to a snail pace.

    Now that last part of abusing her sounds interesting.

    Here's my argument: at least in theory, Mimic as a villain works perfectly fine, especially since the comic/Sonic in general lacks "small time", personal villains. and he's meant to be more of that than a big arc villain.

    Not only that, but because Mimic is a constant (at least for now), he and Whisper's game of cat and mouse can continue to evolve and, writing willing, add some genuine tension and personal stakes. Like regardless of the execution, you can at least DO THINGS with this, and it's a dynamic that's unique to Whisper. Like, Whisper is far from perfect in execution, and she basically exists to be sad and gay, but she's at least got more than one thing going on.

    The thing with Belle is that not only can her SINGLE FRICKING DYNAMIC never really evolve in an interesting way past the most predictable shit ever (because Mr. Tinker can never come back), but "Eggman robot become good" was already long, LONG played out by the time she was introduced, and comparing her deal to Gamma or OVA Metal Sonic or even Emerl (He barely counts but he still has an arc of "starts bad becomes good" or some variation thereof) makes her look outright pathetic. And since she had her big moment, now she's just another tech character in a franchise that's oversaturated with the damn things

    Putting all this aside, we all know that the best IDW character is Clutch

    yeah mimic is cool and actually can be useful as he's vs another oc he can't kill her but he could cut off an arm or ear or shit real dark he cuts off tangles tail that'd give him more cred and make him a terrifying lowtier villain.

    but yeah with belle she's not reinventing the wheel and she's mostly just another good robot i'd rather this arc go to metal sonic or anyone else but a random pretty dumb oc. why is she made of wood anyway.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >round 1
    >Sonic is casual, Surge is literally crying
    >round 2
    >Sonic is effectively given a handicap match, still humiliates Surge
    >round 3
    Hopes and expectations?
    Both of mine are that Sonic goes all out on Surge, y'know, as a joke, rather than because he needs to.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Hopes and expectations?
      Rape

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        she does need that type of correction

        She gets a really bad case of a mental breakdown that kit has to carry her away, tells sonic to stop being a dick and just leave surge alone.

        lol god i can see this just sonic breaking her down to her worst. Also kit really keeps princess carrying surge away lol. I can see sonic going right back too it later or he finds a way to keep surge as his personal punching bag.

        >lol it's a vicious cycle whenever surge has enough mental stability to go back out and fight she goes to fight sonic.
        >then he berates bully and abuses and beats her til she's on the cusp of mental breakdown and has to become a hermit for a while again.
        >this goes on but it used to take a few fights now he's gotten so brutal and sadistic it only takes on session as he joking calls it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      She gets a really bad case of a mental breakdown that kit has to carry her away, tells sonic to stop being a dick and just leave surge alone.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I swear I actually had to zoom in because my bro didn't believe me how bad she jobbed. She literally cried after a punch. Also sonic never took the fight serious while she was getting thrown around.

      jesus, why do people want sonic to destroy her so bad but i can kinda see it though.kinda like this greentext

      god that would be the perfect way to see surge. I feel at some point in a fight we'd see surge crying and trying her best to fight sonic realizing her stamina is lower as well as her speed. she has no chance and wants to give up

      also the concept of him going full power to meme on her is hilarious

      >jeez jobber what happened?
      >*surge wheezing*....w...wait ...g..give me a sec
      >*high speed boot to the face* oh did you give me a sec when my leg was messed up?
      >....p...please i just need to catch my breath
      >you could be fully rested and still lose
      >*she tries to sneak attack him* take this you bastard
      > *hits her like 100 times at high speed* Look at you on the ground again good to see you don't need a sec anymore now we can keep going *cracks knuckles as he walks towards a beaten surge*
      >*surge trying to crawl away* .....w.....w..w.ait ...p.please I'm sorry don't hurt me any more.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Surge gets some super boost to actually push him back a tad. Then he whips out Super and spanks her

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol figuratively or literally? but yeah that's most like what will happen either that or his leg heals miraculously and he beats the jesus out surge and destroys the dynamo cage.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Figuratively or literally
          Yes

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Under what circumstances would she actually have a chance? Maybe if she buffed herself with the tricore or got her superform she might be able to fight.
    Also while we are at it, how do you people feel about Hypersonic and the whole ordeal of stabilizing/getting in since with the Chaos Emeralds?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      She'd probably need the tricore just to be able to be even/potential beat sonic but we know elements of the tricore went into her design so who really knows if it would help or just overload her. she at best can get some tem boost from stuff like the cage and the wisp and tricores but she'd 100% either fry the metal virus or lose her speed so either she becomes slow or loses her immortality. She really was made to job starline set her up for a impossible task and didn't give her any of the tools to do it

      also when it comes to things like hypersonic and other such chaos based forms i enjoyed them until they got to op or over used. Like i feel to make a form like that work you need to have op or high intelligence characters but it makes the other characters either redundant or useless. Overall the less they use superforms the better makes them less of a mcguffin.

      >by the way 90% sure surge can't go super only hedgehogs can in the idw canon/mandates

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Let's hope she gets to do to have a chance to actually win. Hell that could even be her gimmick as a villain, just constantly getting her ass kicked as she searchers for an artefact she can use to overcome Sonic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          god that would suck, but isn't that technically all villains m.o's like they get shit stomped by the heroes over and over?

          but her as the resident jobber/abuse magnet would be cute and would make the surge abuse meme's better and become more streamline

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Which of the gimmicks would best fit the comics? Pic unrelated even if I liked the game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      what gimmicks are you talking about specifically?

      also i now can't stop imagining a sonic running around at super speed with a sword just slashing through everything. either that or rokou kenshing it and bashin your head with a piece of metal lol

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >what gimmicks are you talking about specifically?
        Stuff like sonic having a sword, becoming a werewolf, riding a hoverboard etc.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          probably the hoverboard i can see sonic using a sword for a while as a meme like sonic finds a statue with a sword takes it and shows it off to tails and knuckles then just lugs it around but mostly just playing around. but yeah hoverboard is the best one because it fits sonics "radical" vibe probably just a race or two or he uses it in his leisure the thing is most of these would ruin his whole super fast thing so they can only either be temporary or just for one offs or when he's not serious.

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >9 months later.

    I found another reference picture, I hope it helps.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol beaten and breed as she should be

      the real question tho is does she fall in love, or does she marry sonic, does he take responsibility?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        She would hate him even more, she would name her child something like Mordred and obsess about defeating sonic vicariously through her child.
        As for Sonic, he would absolutely ditch the child the first opportunity he gets.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          damn you have little faith in sonic.

          Also is that a Arthurian references?

          It doesn't matter if she hates him if she can't stop him from doing it again. I'd like to imagine having a kid slows sonic down and chills surge out so wholesome family (amy seethes in the distance). Unwholesome sonic takes advantage of her being weaker and bullies and breaks her and destroys her confidence modeling her into his perfect wife plaything

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Also is that a Arthurian reference?
            Yes, Sonic basically became king Arthur in the storybook series, so I thought it would be a nice touch. Especially if it turns out she was given his DNA or something like that.
            On the family angle I picture them being the sonic equivalent to rednecks as they end with 8 kids because Surge refuse to use because she likes to shock Sonic's junk while they go at it. She also wants many many kids but would die before admitting that.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Sonic and Mordred locked in combat as Surge watches on
            >Sonic actually struggles to keep up for once
            >Surge visibly looks hopeful as Mordred appears to be gaining the upper hand
            >"You're pretty good kid. Too bad your old man always has a backup plan."
            >Sonic pulls out the Chaos Emeralds and goes Super Sonic
            >Surge's face shifts to pure despair as Mordred gets pummeled into the pavement
            >Sonic goes for a knockout blow, but Mordred grabs his fist
            >Sonic's wienery smirk slowly falls away as he notices Modred starting to glow while his own aura begins to fade
            >"Did you really think so lowly of mom that you could be bothered to remember our power? Your Chaos energy is mine."

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Shit, meant for

              She would hate him even more, she would name her child something like Mordred and obsess about defeating sonic vicariously through her child.
              As for Sonic, he would absolutely ditch the child the first opportunity he gets.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              eh welp i'll still respond since he was responding to me anyway lol.

              It's a great green text anon, my only fear is he will inherit the jobber/abuse magnet energy.

              so he defeats sonic but ends up dying as well but sonic is taken and resurrected because he's the hero while mordred is just permanently dead then sonic beats and puts another kid in surge. how would she react to her son being killed for her vendetta would she care or would she hate him to some degree because he represents her failure and looks like his father?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >how would she react to her son being killed for her vendetta would she care or would she hate him to some degree because he represents her failure and looks like his father?
                she just puts that thought on the back burner as she continues to plot sonic demise. once she actually kills him she would cry herself half to death as she finally mourns the death of her child away from its father.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Sonic getting its ass kicked because of his arrogance fits well.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                true but knowing sonic he'll pull a dub out his ass

                >how would she react to her son being killed for her vendetta would she care or would she hate him to some degree because he represents her failure and looks like his father?
                she just puts that thought on the back burner as she continues to plot sonic demise. once she actually kills him she would cry herself half to death as she finally mourns the death of her child away from its father.

                yeah true i still like my og idea she just accepts being his gf/wife it's the more wholesome end. But surge seems like she'd be a decent mom she def has potential for empathy based on how she tried to comfort kit and became nicer to him the more she knew him.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                True, if we want to develop the more mellow timeline ''Mordred'' becomes a nickname for their child as they LARP hatefricking much to their child embarrassment as most people aren't sure if they are actually ok.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                lol it used to be a lot more real but after a certain point surge got used to it and got into it. Sonic accepted he had to settle down and he grew to like both surge and being a father.
                >*sonic pins surge to the wall* Ha pinned again i swear do you even try
                >.....s..shut up butthole
                >maybe I'll try that this time
                >*mordred walks by*............ew

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What would Mordred be like? in terms of personality and powers? I want to give him a sword but I'm not sure what to do beyond that. maybe his gimmick is that he pulled from his mother side but since he has frickall cybernetics he is just a regular tenrec.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He'd be an angsty little prick who fricking hates his parents for being stupid buttholes and secretly plans to kill them both. Has Sonic's speed/Chaos powers and some of Surge's regeneration/electric powers.

                Looks like a mini-Sonic with Surge's black face marking, eerie turquoise eyes, and sharp teeth.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I imagine him just constantly venting to shadow who is pretty much the only who would be his main mentor and anchor since his parents are to busy with one another, and the his 7+ siblings. Not sure if who else would would be in his circle, Maybe Kitt when he isn't in a sonurge ménage à trois.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What I find amusing is how we just ended up making Manic and Scourge.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                We could go the extra mile and say that he inherited Sonic's Werehog curse. When it first manifest itself Surge is losing her shit while Sonic is like ''Neat let me teach some tricks I learned when I went through puberty''.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He'd be an angsty little prick who fricking hates his parents for being stupid buttholes and secretly plans to kill them both. Has Sonic's speed/Chaos powers and some of Surge's regeneration/electric powers.

                Looks like a mini-Sonic with Surge's black face marking, eerie turquoise eyes, and sharp teeth.

                Or we could lean into the metal virus angle and their child having a mercury like consistency.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Or we could lean into the metal virus angle and their child having a mercury like consistency.

                Now that you mention it we have a reverse Samus situation where Sonic's seed is so hyper charged with power and magic that his kid is gonna have some absolutely freakshit powers

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Or we could lean into the metal virus angle and their child having a mercury like consistency.

                damn with this concept if sonic and surge had 7+ kid like anon above said imagine if each one has just had one of sonics random gimmicks but mixed slightly with another thing, so werehog but mix with slight chaos or metal virus mixed with tricore.

                [...]
                Now that you mention it we have a reverse Samus situation where Sonic's seed is so hyper charged with power and magic that his kid is gonna have some absolutely freakshit powers

                Lol damn i almost wonder what sonic's hyper charge seed would taste like, surge gets addicted, sonic's nut got electrolytes lol

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Dad why do I have stretchy arms when I transform?
                >You know I actually don’t know either

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                jeez that's too edgy but interesting tho

                I imagine him just constantly venting to shadow who is pretty much the only who would be his main mentor and anchor since his parents are to busy with one another, and the his 7+ siblings. Not sure if who else would would be in his circle, Maybe Kitt when he isn't in a sonurge ménage à trois.

                >sonurge menage a trois
                what does this imply?

                Also i do like him talking to shadow but i thought he'd be more of a decent kid because his parents are in love lol. Also still feel shadow would lead him down the right path.

                What I find amusing is how we just ended up making Manic and Scourge.

                damn i guess you guys did but that's on the anon above kek.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >what does this imply?
                That both sonic and surge are into tentacles and what surge is into kitt is into.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So basically this fricker?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                heh bro 2018 once again proving all the sonic ocs have already been made, but i kinda like the design tho.

                >what does this imply?
                That both sonic and surge are into tentacles and what surge is into kitt is into.

                damn they make kit do terrible things for them kit's like courage "the things i do for love"

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Lets be honest, he would absolutely love being the meat in their sandwich.
                Anyway, since we already have a werewolf might we as well include a energy vampire, like what

                >Sonic and Mordred locked in combat as Surge watches on
                >Sonic actually struggles to keep up for once
                >Surge visibly looks hopeful as Mordred appears to be gaining the upper hand
                >"You're pretty good kid. Too bad your old man always has a backup plan."
                >Sonic pulls out the Chaos Emeralds and goes Super Sonic
                >Surge's face shifts to pure despair as Mordred gets pummeled into the pavement
                >Sonic goes for a knockout blow, but Mordred grabs his fist
                >Sonic's wienery smirk slowly falls away as he notices Modred starting to glow while his own aura begins to fade
                >"Did you really think so lowly of mom that you could be bothered to remember our power? Your Chaos energy is mine."

                described.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Lets see, what gimmick combinations would make for the more interesting characters? here's some of my guesses
                >Metalhog as [...] points out.
                >Silver Storm who would basically have a magneto hedgehog
                >3 faced Djinn who would have a mix of a tricore and secret rigs powers.
                Honestly I'm not sure how to develop them not gonna lie.

                [...]

                [...]
                god wished this artist made more sonurge stuff.

                Also damn i forgot the djin shit also one of his kid comes out rainbow color or with the ability to change color basically has wisp powers. imagine being an old eggman and the sonic family pull up on you.

                >also i do like the wholesome surge x sonic for once crazy it came from sonic raping surge lol

                So lets recap what we have on the kids
                >Normie tenrec swordsman
                >Metal werehog
                >Djiin tenrec
                >Energy vampire hedgehog
                >Maybe Mageato tenrec
                any other ideas? we need at least 8 of the little buggers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I still believe in the lax mechanic/tech wiz kid who doesn't fight or have real powers.

                also we can have a wisp powered one and a hyper/chaos energy infused one also did you include the metal virus kid or is he the magneto? i thought he was more of a liquid mercury type not magnets.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I'm not sure if there mercury kid overlaps too much with magneto one or if his powers should be folded into the werehog to make the METALHOG.

                well damn also this character makes me feel uncomfortable like the lines and eyes and curves feel like they are meant to be sexy wtf.

                they get the energy theft shit from surge's dynamo cage schizo escapade.

                also yeah poor kit forever used at least tails treats him right

                >also yeah poor kit forever used at least tails treats him right
                Kitt is just traumatizing Tails by proxy as every other week he goes to him to repair his hydrotails as he describes with unnecessary details on how he broke his gear during their rendezvous. At some point tails basically calls rouge to help him act as kittsunami's fricking therapist.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                hmmmmmmm a metal hog that sounds interesting of course i was trying for them not to be to op because werehog plus liquid metal sounds insane. I was thinking more like

                [...]
                Or we could lean into the metal virus angle and their child having a mercury like consistency.

                where they can turn into that metal virus liquid and move around and regen basically like the terminator from 2

                also great to hear kit is getting the help he needs he should become friends with tails and cream. That should brighten his disposition.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Cream, Rogue and Tails discuss how to handle Kitsunami situation.
                >Tails is just venting how badly damage his hydropack gets and what he found when last changing the filters.
                >Rogue is making a online auction of the recording of Kit's ramblings.
                >Cream is just serving people and eating sweets as they all hear the most most obscene stuff imaginable from Kitsunami deadpan voice.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                jesus poor kit, we don't make kit suffer here anon only surge. Poor lil bro he don't deserve that. But the character interactions are on point.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                well damn also this character makes me feel uncomfortable like the lines and eyes and curves feel like they are meant to be sexy wtf.

                they get the energy theft shit from surge's dynamo cage schizo escapade.

                also yeah poor kit forever used at least tails treats him right

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i feel if were talking revenge mordred he got optimized by kit. But if were talking wholesome mordred i think he's freedom to absolute limits he's lazy but good hearted he can be a bit aggressive at times like his mom but over all he doesn't involve himself in fights or hero stuff. He's probably faster than normal and heals fast but no real skills because he doesn't train or want to be like his parents he probably takes after his uncles kit and tail he probably builds cars or hoverboards so he can just cruise or enjoy things like flying with out all the effort.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I like this. It’s a little more unique than just having him be an evil butthole or pawn for Surge

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah kinda got lost in the 8 kids and the og mordred concept. Not that their bad just feel their kid would be a lax more moral grey character literally the embodiment of freedom. But he'd take after tails and kit probably being smart and liking to craft stuff to go fast but the lazy way as he'd probably say.

                I wonder how eggman would react to him would he try and kill him or leave him be because of how much he doesn't involve himself. Plus most of eggman beef is with sonic and he's actually pretty honorable as he told starline their are ways this works and outright killing sonics kid if he hasn't done anything doesn't feel like it would fit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Fair, so with the family timeline mordred is just a hippy who just wonders the world with some exotic hoverboard with a pretentious name made by Kit and/or Tails. He occasionally deals with his siblings bullshit as they actually go around doing heroic or villainous stuff.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Kek he’s the family centrist. Willing to deal with everyone’s shit and keep the peace

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He doesn't really keep peace, he is just the one guy who no one actively hates so ends ups as a middle man and messenger.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                that's a great concept for him i saw him more as just trying to not get involved with alternate dimensions and world ending fights.

                He doesn't really keep peace, he is just the one guy who no one actively hates so ends ups as a middle man and messenger.

                basically I'm happy peeps think my boys cool especially because i really just was think of a kid who's seen both sides of hero and villain and was like nah i want to be a mostly normal civvie.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I see it more as he makes his own stuff but learned from tails and kit and he's the family genius but in a family of muscle heads and powerful spergs it's meaningless. Also i see him less as a hippy and more just a chill cool guy who tries not to get involved in heroism. He may help out once in a while but he may also steal as well he kinda does whatever and tries to keep to himself he'll never save the world but he may fix a kids bike or save a kid from falling.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Eggman has a weird sense of honor, he is fine killing civilians but he thinks attacking family is and shit is to far.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah exactly like how he didn't like starline just straight blowing up sonic and silver and even choked him over it. He likes things to be gucci and where you have a chance.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >damn you have little faith in sonic.
            Literally the entirety of sonic's character (at least in IDW) is that he would rather screw everyone and everything than to say no to 'muh freedom'

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              actually i'd say he's better than archie who could be pretty brutal and heartless at times and was a huge bully and butthole. But idw sonic cares but he cares too much where he can't make the hard choice and kill others because he wants everyone to have a chance to change and grow. Also he actually is nice to his friends in idw compared to in archie where he bullied amy and knuckles and would frick over tails sometimes. As a whole the muh freedom is more of a meme. He still cares

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That was, quite literally, his conclusion in the metal virus arcs

                That no matter how much he risked the world or fricked over everyone, he'd keep letting villains scot free because muh freedom

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i mean it was more hey i don't want to kill people but i won't let villains do whatever they want I'll keep beating you as many times as it takes. He's not letting him go he's trying to imprison him. really same way he can't catch eggman is the same way he couldn't kill him.

                an the Mr tinker case is a can you kill a man who is no longer that guy type of scenario.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >He's not letting him go he's trying to imprison him.
                He literally allowed eggman to walk away during his party. Go read it. He was just slowly zooming away and sonic just kinda shrugged at him.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ok i kinda remember that and yeah i think it was just bad writing or a implication he couldn't reach him idk. I like sonic freedom thing but it's def flawed and shouneny i'd like it to be tested to it's limited especially since i know he can kill just not eggman

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >He literally allowed eggman to walk away during his party.
                He flew away and it was one panel. There was nothing saying it was slow.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                well that's good to know i thought he just screwed the pooch

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The real question is when will she appear in a game and how do you think it will happen?

    I feel it will be something like heroes where she's the main antagonist. maybe get her some street cred.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      She'll be a secret boss

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol she somehow is always a few stats weaker than you and will always be just a middle inconveniences. She gives players a haunting sense of annoyance but also inadequency as if she's a poor copy always to weak to give you the fight you want and need. She also has a habit of missing and falling for things other in game ai can dodge or figure out.

        She also drops a crudely drawn image of a crying green girl who's in a hospital gown and with what seems to be bandages from a recent surgery. She also drops a item that increases your stats at the expense of sanity. These too items and her final line "I just want to go home" leaves you feeling harrowing and villianous

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They'll probably retcon her to be an eggman creation. Likely some kind of adaptability/evolution simulation he's been running in the background, but not really expecting to pay off.

      I figure the ideal way to introduce her is as a wild card in the middle of a pre-existing Eggman plot. Start the game with Sonic and Eggman going at it like normal, only to get interrupted by Surge breaking containment. She immediately goes after Sonic, which fricks up Eggman's plans, instantly putting the two at odds. From there Eggman reworks his plans around Surge, while Sonic goes back to trying to stop him, and Surge follows Sonic around like a terminator determined to prove herself superior. From a gameplay perspective this would mean a series of Surge focused bossfights where she learns from her previous encounters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        damn she's crash bandicoot now lol, but yeah i can see it also would be a cool way to introduce her into the canon. Give her a nice metal sonic esque plot take over/ puts her on eggman level. That sounds interesting asf actually just imagine surge jobbing but coming back because metal virus immortality and just getting more skilled actually would make her so cool. Also i love a rival that can grow and actually has their own stick a rival that gets jobbed but keeps coming back would be fun how do you think her arc would end or would she be the final boss or team up with sonic?

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I’m just glad Metal is getting some good moments

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      in the comic or in the game? but if the comic yeah he based as hell he slapped the shit out of belle and sonic. He also really seems to be getting set up for some clout.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        In the comics. I thought him saving Sonic during the big fight of the Metal Virus arc was badass

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          that too idk that scene where sonic eyes were fading out and metal came in and gave him the boost but he still almost didn't make it was kino as hell.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah either as enemies or ally’s I just really like Metal and Sonic’s interactions. Like when Sonic’s just talking to him in the beginning of that arc. Or when in the OVA Metal sacrifices himself because “There can only be one Sonic”

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              yeah i hope they do something big with him and stop wasting time with belle who is a literally nobody. But yeah I used to love metal as a kid and thought he was dope as hell. So seeing him get used a lot is nice but i hope something comes of it all like he goes his own way or has some evolution.

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Surge's future is joining Sonic's stable of hoes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      basically yeah she's just another girl to be sonics potential endless line of lovers.

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You will never be a cute ahora surge bullies and uses as a fricktoy.
    Why even live

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Shots*
      A cute blue fennec at that

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You will never be a cute ahora surge bullies and uses as a fricktoy.
        Why even live

        she bullies shotas because she knows she knows she's a bottom so she has to bully someone so mind broken and innocent he can't see how weak and insecure she is. But seems kit is getting more dominant based on him actually catching dubs and saving surge like twice at this point.

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    surge be really going through it

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    god wished this artist made more sonurge stuff.

    Also damn i forgot the djin shit also one of his kid comes out rainbow color or with the ability to change color basically has wisp powers. imagine being an old eggman and the sonic family pull up on you.

    >also i do like the wholesome surge x sonic for once crazy it came from sonic raping surge lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lets see, what gimmick combinations would make for the more interesting characters? here's some of my guesses
      >Metalhog as

      [...]


      damn with this concept if sonic and surge had 7+ kid like anon above said imagine if each one has just had one of sonics random gimmicks but mixed slightly with another thing, so werehog but mix with slight chaos or metal virus mixed with tricore.
      [...]
      Lol damn i almost wonder what sonic's hyper charge seed would taste like, surge gets addicted, sonic's nut got electrolytes lol points out.
      >Silver Storm who would basically have a magneto hedgehog
      >3 faced Djinn who would have a mix of a tricore and secret rigs powers.
      Honestly I'm not sure how to develop them not gonna lie.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it's cool anon the concept is cool enough also idk how to flesh these bastards out either other than just the fact they are sonic and surges kid so they'd get a slight mix. I swore for a sec i was like damn you anon's made these this fast.

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It bothers me how Sonic isn't really trying to help Surge. I kinda feel like that should be a thing he ought to be doing. If he can see that she's troubled, he should be trying to reach out to her.

    But what do I know. I grew up on Sonic X.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I mean yeah that's where all the surge abuse and sonic likes bullying a mentally ill girl came from.

      He did attempt to help her at the beginning but he failed and now he's in less of a position to help with his bum leg. I think he will help her in the end but she needs to want help.

      >but i can see the abuse/bully thing with scenes like this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        memes aside the second battle she did pretty good all things considered, even if she had needed to get the perfect piece of gear and the perfect set up to buff herself to what is probably the strongest we will ever see her for a long time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >she did pretty good all things considered
          She jobbed to a bucket.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you know what? fair.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Was literally buck broken.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >heh oh my god are you actually crying
      >///.......n...n..no///
      >Jeez what do you think that will stop me baby
      >///....s..shut up just leave me alone///
      >that's the thing about freedom surge I'm free to bully you as much as i want *berates her as he beats the shit out of her*

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like Surge. Which issues feature her or are relevant to her?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if were talking first appearance issue #45 sonic the hedgehog
      but her first real interaction is #50 as we just see her for a few secs in 45 and 46,48.
      Also her origin comic is imposter syndrome 1-4

  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sonic fans are autistic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What's next for her?
    she has to suffer the consequences of her actions

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Surge look out!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >tangle was merciless on the jobber
        >she did things that i don't even think are legal

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Come on, she only used her a muppet with her tail before battering her into the pavement until they fell into the sewers!
          >She will be fine, after extensive reconstructive surgery but its not like she hasn't dealt with that before.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Poor surgery she wasn't ready for a lesbians fist they specialize in beating and violating females

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    more of these threads endlessly

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Surge...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >time for you to learn what absolute freedom is
      >*unzips pants*

  74. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sage is so cute. It's a shame that because of her origin, if she ever gets into IDW she's likely going to draw comparison to Belle within the narrative.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Atleast it would give Belle some intrigue as the daughter of Tinker while Sage is the daughter of Eggman.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ew sage is so much better than belle the plank of wood.

      Atleast it would give Belle some intrigue as the daughter of Tinker while Sage is the daughter of Eggman.

      huh i guess but odds are they'll just have it be cringe or used it to hype up belle more.

  75. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If it were up to me, I'd pair her up with Shadow for a while. That's assuming he could be written as someone better than a turbo-insecure violent moron and actual character exploration could occur.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Its going take a while as Surge is now dealing with Starline hallucinations and Kit is going to be distrustful of anyone associated with Sonic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Kind of works in favor of the scenario. Shadow has some experience with Muh Past stuff that Surge is struggling with and is more than happy to dunk on Sonic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I’ll show you how to be a real thorn in his side!
          They just annoy Sonic whenever they can

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          True.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I'd pair her up with Shadow for a while
      Shadow is mandated by sega to eternally be an grouchy, edgy moron who always loses.

      Literally just bejita.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Literally just bejita.
        Yeah as much as I enjoy Sonic the copy pasted stuff from DBZ is just kind of shit not gonna lie.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      so then not pairing them up lol, you know shadow has to be an edgy idiot.

      Its going take a while as Surge is now dealing with Starline hallucinations and Kit is going to be distrustful of anyone associated with Sonic.

      yeah at best she needs a zavok or mimic someone who is evil but actually isn't moronic or bat shit insane.

      Kind of works in favor of the scenario. Shadow has some experience with Muh Past stuff that Surge is struggling with and is more than happy to dunk on Sonic.

      it would be cool especially since she can see someone that actually would understand her but we know shadow sucks now is his past even the same in idw?

      >I'd pair her up with Shadow for a while
      Shadow is mandated by sega to eternally be an grouchy, edgy moron who always loses.

      Literally just bejita.

      yeah unfortunately he'd be more likely to beat her crybaby ass up or they both job to each other lol.

      >I’ll show you how to be a real thorn in his side!
      They just annoy Sonic whenever they can

      this sounds like the best thing they could do for the both of them make them actually fun

      >Literally just bejita.
      Yeah as much as I enjoy Sonic the copy pasted stuff from DBZ is just kind of shit not gonna lie.

      god it's sad sonic is becoming a shounen.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >god it's sad sonic is becoming a shounen.
        buddy it has been that way for a long ass time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          sadly i'm now starting to see.

          Honestly, I think Surge would actually beat IDW Shadow.

          Surge at least has wins over Metal and Whisper, even if she needed Kit for the former and the Wisps for the latter.

          IDW Shadow, OTOH, has been a complete useless dipshit for his whole screentime.

          she can def win if she has the dynamo or he does another metal virus and wants to beat her out right and does something dumb like letting her charge up.

          With the wisps she would probably win. With her dynamo she has a decent chance but without it she is fricked even if Shadow does something moronic.

          yeah she's no where near fast or strong enough even with shadow being a dumbass

          I really hate what they've done to Shadow, especially since it makes no sense given his backstory (assuming he even still has one).

          yeah he's basically just vegeta as someone said above and he's basically the worst example of the mandates he's not allowed to grow so he's stuck as sonics b***h who is a grouchy edgy frick

          >With her dynamo she has a decent chance but without it she is fricked even if Shadow does something moronic.
          You'd think so, but I have faith in IDW Shadow's ability to suck.

          Surge could be lying there helpless, waiting for the final blow, and a meteor would fall on Shadow's head or something.

          [...]
          Yeah, being a boring dime-a-dozen Shonen rival is about the worst thing you could do to Shadow. It's like making Mewtwo into a beach bully who kicks sand in people's faces.

          lol i forget surge is just the new idw shadow a jobber and abuse magnet who fricks themself.

          really the question is who jobs first and who jobs worse.
          >surge and shadow fight
          >it's a draw they both get knocked out by sonics shoe that fell off while he was on the tornado

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >yeah she's no where near fast or strong enough even with shadow being a dumbass
            I'm presuming that she would be a actual menace like she was in the second fight prior to getting a bucket to the head but I doubt that this would be the case.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >it's a draw they both get knocked out by sonics shoe that fell off while he was on the tornado
            Alright, that got a laugh out of me.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, I think Surge would actually beat IDW Shadow.

        Surge at least has wins over Metal and Whisper, even if she needed Kit for the former and the Wisps for the latter.

        IDW Shadow, OTOH, has been a complete useless dipshit for his whole screentime.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          With the wisps she would probably win. With her dynamo she has a decent chance but without it she is fricked even if Shadow does something moronic.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >With her dynamo she has a decent chance but without it she is fricked even if Shadow does something moronic.
            You'd think so, but I have faith in IDW Shadow's ability to suck.

            Surge could be lying there helpless, waiting for the final blow, and a meteor would fall on Shadow's head or something.

            I really hate what they've done to Shadow, especially since it makes no sense given his backstory (assuming he even still has one).

            Yeah, being a boring dime-a-dozen Shonen rival is about the worst thing you could do to Shadow. It's like making Mewtwo into a beach bully who kicks sand in people's faces.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I really hate what they've done to Shadow, especially since it makes no sense given his backstory (assuming he even still has one).

  76. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    She cool for no reason, she gonna lose anyway
    who do you guys think she could beat in idw?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >who do you guys think she could beat in idw?
      Baseline she would be would probably be capable to beat anyone weaker than starline. with the dynamo she might be able to fight on equal grounds to anyone short of the main cast powerhouses.

  77. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Live, Job, Repeat

  78. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    As a man, I can't really get into this comic, knowing Ian Flynn has an obsession with strong female characters and lesbian relationships. I don't trust that he's writing in good faith and I see that he would rather fit his own political ideals into the story. This Woke mind virus in the West has destroyed my interest in almost every single Western Fiction really.

    I so badly want to be more engaged, but I'm not going to be preached to by anyone. This is the worst feeling.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Flynn shat on Marine and it was pretty funny. Not sure what you're blathering about.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't like being preached to while trying to escape from the real world, it sucks me right out of what I'm reading or watching. Every single fiction in Western Media has come to the same consensus:

        Men are dumb, evil or incompetent.

        Women are smart, righteous and intelligent.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          See my previous comment.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Fine, be a disingenuous butthole. Sonic is going Woke and that is not the direction this franchise should go. Going full Woke WILL destroy Sonic.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              After Sonic Team and Sega's incompetence, there's nothing left to destroy.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                These characters Ian and his team made deserve better than being just Woke talking points drawn on paper. This franchise, Sonic, deserves respect, as does any other IP. This stuff influences our culture in subtle ways and if our culture is corrupted by these neo-colonial, Marxist attitudes, then that's it for the West.

                I want Sonic the Hedgehog. I want to escape the real world and be lost in another World, I do not want a feminist to rip me out and preach at me constantly. If they continue to preach at us, the concequences will NOT be pretty.

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