>"It was very difficult to find the right tone. I want my films to be entertaining, and I like a lot of humor in them - to poke fun not only at the idea of the Space Viking, but also to poke fun at humans and how we bumble our way through life on this planet."
>"The comic run is very serious, and Jane’s story is especially tense. And so to try to find humor around that stuff, as well as making it an emotional story, was always going to be difficult. And we struggled with that. We wrestled with it throughout the edit, right up until we finished the film."
>"We did funny scenes about having cancer, we did way more tragic scenes about having cancer. Some audiences really loved the humor part of it. Some audiences really wanted it to be just like the comics. But, you know, I always say, if you want it to be exactly like the comics read the comic. You've got to change things here and there to make it a film."
https://comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor-love-and-thunder/taika-waititi-on-thor-love-and-thunder-criticisms-if-you-want-it-to-be-like-the-comics-read-the-comic-a205789
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Hack. There I saved you three paragraphs.
You wanted two completely different tones, and then act surprise when it doesn't all come together? You can't have cancer and god butchering mixed in with toddlers with lightning powers
He managed to mix Hitler and hilarity. His reach exceeded his grasp.
No he didn’t, that shit was ass. homosexual liberals just ate it up cause they got to feel edgy while still acting like the Holocaust happened.
1/10 because I'm responding
Making fun of a guy who everyone collectively hates is a pretty simple job
Sometimes I cannot tell what is a joke and what is just zoomers being zoomers.
Hitler was made into a joke for decades.
Waititi didn't do anything new or even that good.
I think it was a poor choice of a run to do a Taika Waititi movie on. But I also agree with him that exactly emulating the comics isn't the way to do it either.
Every time some hack like Waititi or Snyder parrots that bullshit, it ignores what fans actually want. No, I'm not expecting a single movie to do a perfect retelling of an 11 part comic story arc. Hell, I'm not even expecting them to adapt actual comic arcs at all. What I'm expecting is for them to understand the characters and why fans like them, and play to that, instead of ignoring all of it because you can't be assed. Nobody likes Thor because he's a goofy joke who's the butt of every scene he's in so stop doing it.
we’ve had the gold standard for this for decades now and I know all of these Hollywood idiots have seen it because they reference it non-stop.
Akira.
Akira is a single movie that covers a comic run that’s much longer than the standard marvel storyline and it makes some massive changes and omissions from the source material. For fricks sake, Akira himself isn’t even in the god damn movie that’s named after him.
But you know what the movie did right? It sold the setting, it sold the stakes, it sold the characters, and it sold the general plot and themes. That’s what an adaptation is. It’s a retelling of the story using similar pieces but a different interpretation.
No one needs or wants a 1:1 remake in a different medium, but we want to be able to at least recognize the story, the world, and the characters in it.
And these recent marvel movies are doing none of that. They used to be capable of it, what the hell happened?
Honestly they should've let someone else do the next Thor film, and had him do an Incredible Hercules adaptation.
>the comic run is very serious
>lets make it a comedy!
Not that I care much for the Jane Thor run, but why is Hollywood like this?
They've never known what to do with Thor, and the MCU mantra is "Don't know how to pull it off? Make it a joke!". Kinda fricked they couldnt decide if Asgardians were larping aliens or legit gods.
Look at Khonshu. Now THAT was a fricking God
They were aliens because they felt audiences wouldn't accept straight up gods. After slowly easing into it, they retconned them into straight up gods.
They didn't really retcon, they just pretended gods were suddenly a thing and wanted you to forget about all of the Asgardians that died. Kinda makes Gorr's blade seem stupid
>they felt audiences wouldn't accept straight up gods
Chinese audiences with big money, in particular.
The only serious Thor movie they tried was Thor 2. The success of Thor 1 and Ragnarok meant that a comedy was a safe bet for the big screen. Taika might not be capable of a serious movie.
The first movie didn't have comedy all the fricking time, it was pretty much only when he was stuck on Earth unable to fit in. Everything on Asgard was serious and so was the action.
Thor 1 is legit the only rewatchable Thor movie.
Unabashedly based.
Every year I realize more and more how much Branagh tried to make Thor a real movie with a through line with heart, amazing sets and a truly amazing score and all anybody fricking remembers are lol dutch angles
No wonder he just fricked off to do mid Poirot movies forever
I agree but frick that death on the Nile was atrocious. Gal Gadot is such a fricking cancer, a disgusting IDF plant.
>Every year I realize more and more how much Branagh tried to make Thor a real movie with a through line with heart, amazing sets and a truly amazing score and all anybody fricking remembers are lol dutch angles
it could've been the start of a great solo franchise that really explored the lore and characters. Same with Iron Man 1.
>it could've been the start of a great solo franchise that really explored the lore and characters
Or it could have been really boring like his agatha christie movies
You can say that about Phase 1 in general.
I know everyone loves shitting on The Incredible Hulk because "it's not real MCU" or whatever but even that felt like it's trying to be a real movie with its own distinct style.
The MCU is fricking cancer
>you know, I always say, if you want it to be exactly like the comics read the comic. You've got to change things here and there to make it a film."
Snyder's style
And the russos and all of the marvel Netflix shows, and all of the fox men particularly the wolverine solo movies.
Funny you say Snyder when 300 and watchmen were damn near 1:1 outside of the ending (which was a shit because it wasn’t)
Not everything needs humor.
>I'm a fricking idiot who thinks he's better than the material he was chosen to work with and I fricked it all up
No shit
did disney think this guy was the next peter jackson just because he's a director from new zealand?
>And so to try to find humor around that stuff
Hack. Walt Simonson said it best.
no one does things earnestly now
it all under 20 layers of irony.
They shouldn't have let him write it.
>Massacres the Asgardian characters and destroys Asgard in Le Funny Movie With Hulk
>Tries to cobble something together with barely anything left from the source material left standing
>Turns out it sucks
>Massacres the Asgardian characters
No one gives a frick about Thor's friends.
Go to bed, Mr. Waititi.
Name them without googling, go.
Gimli
Robin Hood
Girl
Fandral, Hogun, Volstagg. Sorry for being someone that reads comics on Cinemaphile, I guess.
>Asgard's been repeatedly destroyed in the books (for different definitions of "destroyed")
I'll give you that, but the comics are better at eventually restoring "The Status Quo (or something close enough)" than the MCU is. Taika ditched too much of the stuff that makes Thor stories fun and unique, and we got a goddamn mess of movie.
>responds two hours later
>expects me to think he didn't look them up
Nice try anon, no one gave a frick about those guys. Even Zachary Levi pointed that out.
> Even Zachary Levi pointed that out.
nobody cares, david.
>Movie called Ragnarok
>Doesn't destroy Asgard
moron. And in the comics Asgard's been destroyed or moved like three times, so there's plenty of material to work with that's non-Asgard related
>that video where Taika "reacts" to the awful VFX in his own movie
Elites make me blood boil
They're embarrassed of the source material, and can't take it seriously so they make everything a joke.
With a name like that, no wonder the movie failed. When will Hollywood stop hiring directors with moronic names?
>I always say, if you want it to be exactly like the comics read the comic.
This thinking is always objectively wrong, 100 percent of the time, with no exceptions.
Jason Aaron sucks
Well obviously. That’s the funniest part of all this. His biggest claim to fame was not only turned into a joke but it’s also now reviled.
Maybe tyco whitetittie isn’t so bad after all
He struggled because he wasn't able to add in as much gay characters as he wanted.
remember thor dark world?
>The comic run is very serious, and Jane’s story is especially tense
Jane Thor was an awful idea to begin with
Who's idea was it to adapt that shit?
I'm sorry, What he's done to Planet Hulk is infinitely more offensive to me than what he did to Aaron's slop.
Being a Hulk fan is suffering.
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