>ten years after metoo
>women directors now account for 35 % of all films
>almost all of them fail at the box office
>not a SINGLE classic, iconic, or avant-garde masterpiece among them
Will the "female director" experiment ever end?
>ten years after metoo. >women directors now account for 35 % of all films
>women have smaller brains so they have less spatial, cinematic intelligence
>they are biologically wired to confirm, which goes against the entire purpose of art.
>they are only capable of emulating aesthetic choices invented by males (Titane copies Cronenberg, Don't Worry Darling copies Peele, Lady Bird copies Bujalski), in the rare times they do attempt originality it always only comes out to MUH vegana ("women talking", "portrait of a lady on fire")
Women are more inteligent than most men by all measures.
yeah look at all those inventions they came up with
>too stupid to understand how average works
Typical male inteligence.
>uses a self defeating argument, thinks she already won, and yet still seethes
typical femoid logic
yeah it's definitely the average people who make a difference in society lmfao. I dont buy the whole 'female median intelligence is higher' sthick anymore after working with them in STEM. Almost three quarters of them have no idea what's going on and get nothing accomplished other than planning parties
Pretty sure my poodle is smarter than most females
Pretty sure you just proved his point
Women tend to be more centralised around the mean, there are definitely more men at both extremes
by all measures of the kitchen instruments. haha jk all good chefs are man
Absolutely untrue. We have an education system that has abandoned teaching methods to which males respond better in favour of teaching methods that favour female patterns of learning.
actually going by data women mature faster so they appear smarter compared to the men in the same age group as them but when comparing women and men who have both reached the end of their maturation it evens out to them being equally as intelligent as men
Reminds me of Schopenhauer's theory on maturity differences between the sexes. Basically that men's longer maturation period results in a higher class of being whereas women reach their peak earlier. His words, not mine.
women don't mature faster they just stop maturing earlier.
that doesn't matter if you can't control your emotions
men's intelligence has a wider range, so there may very be more really dumb men than women. but the smartest man is way smarter than the smartest woman.
this is false, just go read some history about who made all technology and human upgrades, if you want to laugh just go read all the women best topics or stereotypes (like cooking and clothing) and men are the best in those too
>has never been in a car with a woman driving or experienced female “”management”” at a company
Your opinion is incredibly biased and not grounded in reality
And yet still they suck at everything.
God I hate real women
I actually liked portray of a women on fire, but it's because of my ffm threesome fantasies. so I liked it because it's kind of a manual
>Oh look, (Marwen, Greta Gerwig, Eemereld Fennel), is the new cinematic icon, she is surely a cinematic genius who was chosen on merit alone
>look her up
>she just happens to be an ultra hot super model in the prime of her fertility.
Funny how that happens.
wtf are u talking about? is greta gerwig ultra hot now?
this, do it moron
She's pretty hot and has deceptively great breasts
i googled dem 3 b***hes and i puked in my mouth. You know who is ultra hot? Olivia Wilde. You had the perfect example in OP and you went out of your way to pick 3 slampigs, you are either a woman or a gay
Go to bed Olivia
Olivia is a man and you are gay.
bump
There's no breasts
Where does she keep them because I see none in that photo.
>deceptively
Gerwig is 99% carried by her husband Noah Baumbach
Objectively incorrect.
Which part?
All parts.
>almost all of them fail at the box office
What is Babrie. Also, pretty much all movies fail now.
>not a SINGLE classic, iconic, or avant-garde masterpiece among them
The general audiences don't care about films anymore. And they've always had terrible taste anyway. But there are many female directors praised by the cinephilic circles.
>What is Babrie. Also, pretty much all movies fail now.
One example does not refute "almost all of them fail"
>The general audiences don't care about films anymore. And they've always had terrible taste anyway. But there are many female directors praised by the cinephilic circles.
And suggesting the whole medium has deteriorated does not contradict that not a single classic or masterpiece has been generated by the vast increase in female filmmakers.
>whole medium has deteriorated
It didn't. People are just dumber.
>not a single classic
Like I said, plenty of classics for people who love film. Afersun was the highest rated movie of 2022, Anatomy of a Fall was one of the highest rated ones too. Then there's Kelly Reichardt, Celine Sciamma, Lucretia Martel, plenty of big names.
>It didn't. People are just dumber.
So you're blaming the poor output on the audience?
>Like I said, plenty of classics for people who love film.
Which ones?
Haven't seen Aftersun but Anatomy of a Fall is a decent movie but not even close to a classic.
Also those three directors you mentioned have not produced a classic or masterpiece between them. Doesn't mean they're bad directors per se but they're not going to be remembered as greats of the medium.
What is a classic? Name some classics from the last 10 years then.
>What is a classic?
An extremely high quality example of filmmaking that fares well in comparison to the best films of all time within their respective genres, resonate with audiences instantly and becomes more appreciated as time progresses.
>Name some classics from the last 10 years then.
There's not a great deal from the last 10 years I expect to be remembered as high points of the medium. The last 10 years has been the weakest period in film of all time, whether there is a correlation between the decrease in quality. If I were to name some classic from the last 10 years that project as potential classics I'd say Mad Max: Fury Road, La La Land, Banshees of Inisherin, Moonlight, Shoplifters, Manchester by the Sea and Tar. If I was to think of one that from a female director from the last 10 years that might be regarded a classic the only one that really comes to mind if Power of the Dog.
Which films from female directors from the 21st century do you believe project as classics?
Oh yeah, people are going to pop on Anatomy Of A Fall whenever they want to just kick back and relax. I heard people now watch it around Christmas as a new holiday classic. Get bent. Women produce films you watch exactly once, think is OK, then never watch again. I envision stacks of dusty near-pristine copies of the Barbie dvd filling the shelves of thrift stores in the near-future.
>What is Babrie
Indeed, what is Babrie? Also, that movie was going to do well no matter what. The fact it's such commie shit anyway when it could have actually been good speaks volumes and is yet another indicator that our culture has stalled if that piece of shit made a billion dollars.
>What is Babrie
Well the most iconic toy geared towards little girls first and foremost.
There was also a rather confused mess of a movie that tried to have some ironic feminist outlook that was a pretty huge success mainly because of brand recognition and Ryan Goslings charming performance as the underappreciated "Ken" character.
>What is Babrie.
Every argument with a progressive:
>dogs have four legs
>and what about that three legged dog that was born in China 35 years ago, huh? (smug face)
It's ironic that equalitygays are so big on anecdotal attempts at gotchas, isn't it
barbie would have made 600+ million if it was directed by ben shapiro you earth shatteringly moronic black Black person
the acolyte is a resounding success
chud
Never heard of it?
>resounding
I didn't know we had nu-film critics on tivù
Just like RoP(e) eh?
It won't end as long as people can keep using the dumbasses. They're a tax write off
Tax write offs can't be of much use when you're not making any profits. Everything can't bomb or the system falls apart.
'member Kathryn Bigelow?
>posts a film from 33 years ago
The last thing of hers anyone talked about was Zero Dark Thirty and that was before metoo
That's why I asked if anyone remembers
Also Strange Days was kino
then she made Detroit which was pretty bad and nothing more from her
Emma Seligman is the next big thing though. Her stuff is brilliant.
Shes not anywhere near the upper echelon of my favorite directors but, she is someone I can safely say is a good director. Near Dark is probably my favorite of hers.
That was a lame b-movie that reeks of vegana. Patrick Swayze and Keanu were discount tripe back then. Swayze always was, Keanu exclusively b-list bleh until Matrix.
1. There’s considerably less women directors than men. Just like most men directors make bad movies this also applies to women. They are not on equal footing.
2. Most movies flop now at the box office. There has been a considerable shift in audience behaviour and how they consume content.
3. There are good female directed movies but they tend to not be big studio projects because that’s still a boy’s club and most of that stuff is big blockbuster sci-fi/action/superhero shit that doesn’t interest women creators as much.
4. Smaller movies have way harder time getting visibility or wider recognition specifically because everything is so fragmented and limited in wider exposure now if you aren’t a big hit at the festival circuit.
5. Female directors don’t get promoted as much as male ones do.
have a nice day, shill. Women have gotten all of the easy pass legs up possible and they still produce shit after shit but muh feminism continues to let women fail upward. Women are just dumber, weaker, less creative versions of men who have little else to say than men=bad and muh vegana. And nobody, not even other women, are going to pay money for that.
>Women are just dumber
yet somehow women have been shown to perform better in classroom settings and are going into higher education at greater rates than men in first world countries.
>classroom settings
>higher education
None of that shit requires thinking or problem solving, just conforming to norm and regurgitating whatever the teachers/professors/books say. Surprise, women are naturally good at that. That's incelligence, not intelligence.
Oh wow, in controlled environs where you are reward to obey, confirm, and follow direction women excel. May as well measure intelligence by how neatly and accurately someone can complete a connect the dots picture. What a stupid example of proving "intelligence." You wouldn't happen to be a woman, would you?
>classroom settings
What a difference fifty years of cultural Marxists ‘marching through the institutions’ has made.
And now science has a replicability crisis as the scientific method has been abandoned in favour of indoctrinaire propaganda.
Orwell was right when he said it is always the women that were the strongest adherents to ‘the party’.
Women are the new Shabbos Goy.
You are easy for CEO's to manipulate.
You are emotional and easy to control.
No one will hire you once you are 40.
You pose no real threat, that's why you are promoted.
You are the shabbos Goy
Women are easier to market to
https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Infographics/Men-More-Difficult-to-Persuade-with-Advertising-than-Women
https://www.redevolution.com/blog/why-do-marketers-target-females
https://www.kiplinger.com/business/marketing-to-women-good-for-business
They are more homogeneous mentally, easier to herd. Men who want their favor will fall in line naturally.
Yes but this doesn't mean you need women to do the work, it just means women are consumers. Its obvious women prefer to be told stories and live in fantasy, like a child. Men invent and fix things. Women are used as middle managers to benefit the CIS white males who own the companies and would be challened by high value males. You are the new goy
Middle-managers don't do anything. Work any place that has them and you realize that it takes less time to simply directly go to whoever they're they're supposed to be interfacing with for you. Hm. So, actually, I guess that does actually mean they do something. They do negative things, making the workplace less efficient. AND you have to pay them to do this, and since the "this" not only doesn't produce anything of value but actively reduces it, this means that all the pay that's going to them is coming out of everyone who is doing useful things' pockets.
Anyway. Point is, they don't benefit these "CIS white males". They harm them as well. Not just indirectly this way, but also directly by demanding they be promoted or else. And then they get into positions of leadership and start destroying the company because they're moronic children who don't take anything seriously, like kathleen kennedy, or that dumb b***h who ruined that beer brand's image by making drinking their beer gay. Even if they do literally everything wrong, they can always just stop working and be a stay-at-home woman for some random guy. Women never have any skin in the game, which is why they don't take anything seriously, and why everything they produce sucks.
Of course, there's like the 3% of women who are exceptions or whatever, but quotas don't ask for 3% of the people you hire to be women, they call for 50% which means 94% of those will be moronic.
This explains everything that has happened since "suffrage." It was always about marketing to dumb women and shaping society as a result.
>1930s germany
>women given vote
>hitler elected immediately
same with noggers. this explains our society perfectly. capitalists want more women and dumb Black folk. tribalistic mentally hiveminded people. whole economies are run on females and Black folks spending habits.
not to mention men are shamed and guilt tripped into buying things for women. it all circles back to women. everything would decrease 95% if not for women
>Women are the new Shabbos Goy
>new
yeah maybe since the 60s
Someone forgot to take their daily dose of testosterone.
>Most movies flop now at the box office.
When your primary motivation for making a film is to virtue signal how much you hate straight white males, straight white males wont pay money to see your crap. Astonishing, amazing, radical concept, I know.
Directors are over rated these days. Look at media right now, it's all trash and it's never been easier (more accessible) to create. This is because its not special anymore, creatives of the past were geniuses, today it's just narcissists. This goes hand and glove with "show biz". Todays talent will just make their own shit and it will naturally get noticed.
Movies specifically are harder than ever to create because of shitty economics and wokeness. No one can get funding and more people are poorer with less chances for success and the ones than do have to be approved by Fink
All cope.
Waaaahhhh wah wah
How's that PMS going, chuddete?
>All these dried up dead eggs in your uterus like old cans of soup laying at the bottom if the dumpster, but at least I'm fighting Muh Patriarchy
Why are women like this? How stupid are they? Just like second grade dropout thinking.
What's hilarious is that in the bbc, 85% of showrunners are female and hire male directors.
>Wilde and production designer Katie Byron decorated the bedrooms seen in the film, including with trophies and depictions of prominent American women Michelle Obama and Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Fits the character. It's no different than the hypothetical Superbad trivia of
>filmmakers Seth Rogen and Josh Goldblattsteinberg chose a Jenna Haze video for the early pornography scene because they also watched Jenna Haze when they were young
>Ruth Bader Ginsburg
I feel like late-2010s white pop feminism lionized Ruth Bader Ginsburg so much because they knew she fricked up by not retiring when Obama was President and could've picked her replacement. He probably would've picked a woman, and definitely a turbo-liberal.
frick women
>rapists get cancelled
>movies are all bad now
were all good directors rapists?
Weinstein was unironically a great producer. He produced some of the most iconic movies of the 90s and the 2000s.
It's actually insane the amount of movies with staying power that guy produced in that time frame. And he was so good at the politics part of producing he got the Oscars to give his shitty Shakespeare fanfic best picture over fricking Saving Private Ryan.
SPR is a really mid film outside of the opening, honestly it was not even the best ww2 movie nominated that year.
whenever you hear stories of directors talking about having to dumb down their movies he's the one telling them to do that
No that's Joel Silver. Weinstein was just a creep, doesn't mean he was bad at his job.
looking through his imdb page and i see nothing but liquid shit
only movies he produced worth a damn were the ones directed by people who didn't listen to his shit
He played a cameo as a sleazy but dangerous private detective in ‘Burn Hollywood Burn: an Alan Smithee Film’ that is chillingly menacing. Would have made a great actor and definitely has that aura of ‘don’t frick with me’.
He was terrible. Especially when it came to foreign films and the absolutely ridiculous cuts he would insist on.
I liked Booksmart and my mom liked Booksmart. That's a feat.
But it was probably the one hit for Olivia Wilde, like Mid 90s for Jonah Hill.
I do not enjoy the films of Greta Gerwig.
>3/4 of work is top tier kino
>doesn't taut herself as some feminist icon
>film nerds never bring her up
Seeing the film world suck Greta's dick every time she makes mid but won't recognize Lynn made me realize modern film culture is trash.
Forgot pic
trans Ricky Gervais?
She's alright, don't care much for that Joaquin Phoenix movie though
No clue who this is, sorry.
Ratcather
We Need to Talk About Kevin
You Were Never Really Here
>You Were Never Really Here
So close to being amazing, just didn't know what to do with the material after the first hour
>>3/4 of work is top tier kino
't taut herself as some feminist icon
>>film nerds never bring her up
Relatable
Larisa Shepitko made some of the greatest kino i have ever seen yet i never see her mentioned
When they elevate "women directors", they mean "talentless directors"
"Marginalised voices", etc: it's all just hatred of the talented
Ayn Rand (another female artist who gets overlooked) was right
>Seeing the film world suck Greta's dick every time she makes mid but won't recognize Lynn made me realize modern film culture is trash.
W-what the frick are you trying to say?
I grew up thinking people were recognized for talent, Lynn Ramsey, but instead mediocre talent, Greta Gerwig, is put on a higher pedestal because it fits a cultural narrative.
The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but time and chance happeneth to them all.
I thought Little Women was really good
It's going to be a tug of war until the end of time. They'll probably never reach gender parity but men will always be dominant because women suck so much.
No it won't, this shit isn't sustainable on the level it is right now. There needs to be a concession on the part of feminists and a compromise needs to be reached or society will just jeep wasting away until it is replaced by something way different and way more geared towards men.
AI will save us. Within 5-10 years we’ll be able to whip up our own movies in the space of a few days at almost no cost, and the cream will inevitably rise to the top. Chances are it won’t have interracial gay scenes or DEI prog-aganda. Wait and see.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0708903/ >kinos directly in you're path
Incel thread to start the Sunday
>Pointing out women's extreme deficits means you can't have sex and I bet your penis is small, CHUD!
Typical female argument that can only find valuation through sex, shocker. You know that the biggest reason men end up resenting and openly hating women is because they had a lot of (negative) experiences with them, right? Oh sorry, that's inductive reasoning and women are terrible at that. Here's a handout for you to follow. Make sure you regurgitate everything it says exactly in neat handwriting. That proves you're intelligent!
You don’t have to be an incel to hate women.
Women hate women just as much if not more than men do.
>mommy i’m crying and stupid?
In The Power (2023), based on the 2016 eponymous novel, all women across the world gain the ability to release deadly electric charges. With this newfound power women carry out a revolution, killing all men in places such as Saudi Arabia and Moldova and reducing them to sex slaves, and reducing the rest to second class citizens. A last ditch effort from the patriarchy to reestablish itself ends in nuclear annihilation that sends humanity back to the stone age with women as the dominant gender. Thousands of years later, society has reestablished itself as a perpetual matriarchy.
That movie sounds dumb. Who wants to watch that kind of shit?
Are you sure a horny male didn't write this
The novel was written by a israeli British woman.
>The Power opens with a letter from a male writer from the "Men Writer's Association," asking Naomi Alderman to read his historical novel. He gushes praise upon Alderman and thanks her profusely for her time.
>Tunde is an aspiring male journalist in Nigeria who starts to film women using their emerging power and publish it online.
>Margot is a mayor in Wisconsin who discovers her daughter Jocelyn is also developing these powers.
>Allie is a girl who is raped by her foster father and kills him with her powers before taking refuge in a convent.
>As women in Moldova start paramilitary groups, Tatiana, the president's wife, steps in to take over the country.
>Tunde is nearly raped by marauding women in India. (even pajeetas share the author's craving for BBC!)
>Margot becomes governor by using her powers to silence her male opponent during a debate.
>Tatiana begins to behave erratically, leading to mass killings of men.
>Allie kills Tatiana and decides to take the world back to the Stone Age to reset its growth and structures based on women's powers.
>The influential author responds to the young male writer, telling him it is a worthy book, but that he should publish it under a woman's name if he wants to be taken seriously.
>End
BILLIONS OF MOIDS MUST DIE
ZAP THE BOYIM! GENDER WAR NOW! ALL MEN OWE ME SEX UNLESS THEY'RE FAT AND UGLY THEN THEY NEED TO DIE!
You kid but in the book it's mentioned that some men are into being electrocuted during sex. Also, gangs of pajeetas start mass raping pajeets.
What are my chances of getting out my incel manifesto turned into a series?
Swap the genders and replace, "forced diversity" with "mansplaining."
Remember when feminists made a TV show out of the successful male-written comic ‘Y: The Last Man’?
Probably not as it got cancelled after three episodes and was baleeted from all streaming services shortly thereafter.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
They had to try to explain why trannies were still alive which I thought was funny.
The female ability to doublethink around their own logical fallacies and stupid indoctrination is truly wondrous entertainment to those with even the most rudimentary skills in logic.
So that’s why I haven’t gone to the cinema in 10 years. I was wondering why nothing seemed appealing. I used to go the kinoplex at least twice a month.
I probably saved about 5 grand over 10 years.
Last movie I went to see in the theaters was Avatar 2. Next one I'll go see will probably be Avatar 3. There's just no reason to over into the city, dealing with traffic, then sitting in the theater watching the same fricking commercials I get on TV or YouTube, having other people be loud and obnoxious and overpaying for something I might not even enjoy in the end
Women don't have lifelong obsession's with anything. Look at any famous director, author, painter or sculpture, they lived and breathed it, sacrificing everything.
Thats why its so rare for women to create anything worthwhile. And lastly, when women get any modicum of wealth they spend it on vacations, clothes, israeliteelry etc so they quit after a success, while that money is funneled into a family & kids for males.
Extraordinary women are rarer than extraordinary men, but nonetheless you can still find them. Most men are mediocre, same as women. Nonetheless, disregarding works of art based on the gender of its creator means renouncing to a lot of potential discoveries.
wow thanks chat gpt
There's only one good woman director. Checkem.
before metoo albeit
I will watch every female director in cinema if I get a free ticket to each screening. Shit is expensive
I really liked Hurt Locker and Zero Dark Thirty.
>Hear good things about Cocaine Bear
>Watch it when it drops on streaming
>It’s a poorly written confused mess of a story that has a bunch of plot threads it doesn’t need just so it can have more ‘white man bad’
Imagine how good it could have been in the hands of a gonzo young male auteur instead of a failed comedienne turned failed director.
are any good gonzo male auteurs? and even more any good actors you can use for it
No, because the studio system has replaced them with indoctrinated leftist zombies that are easily controllable and churn out progslop shit to order instead of creating art.
Chad Stahelski is probably the closest thing to an auteur these days and even he just turned into Michael Bay only with gun-fu instead of explosions.
there's some interesting stuff coming out of northern Europe. and I know Poor Things is pedo Hollywood kino, but I like the Greek guy. what happened to the guy who directed 'Shame'. Last interesting American indie kino imo
>Steve McQueen
He might return to interesting ideas after he is done with his progressive trilogy.
>Race
12 Years a Slave
>Feminism
Widows (some female group heist thing idk, it flopped)
>Jews
Occupied City (weird doc comparing modern day with Nazi Germany)
he made his magnum opus in 2020
yeah sounds bad. looks like it's all Europeans now. Yorgos, Ostlund, Sorrentino, Borgli and also the Koreans I guess. Maybe there will be something like the 70's New Hollywood copying the European style at the time
>Hear good things about Cocaine Bear
from whom? I cannot imagine anyone with >65 IQ enjoying this film. Every punchline is "Bear kills human haha"
You have to admit it could have been a fun action/comedy/horror romp and instead was a pile of wormy shit. Didn’t commit to the bit and didn’t know whether to embrace the ridiculousness of the concept (like ‘Willy’s Wonderland’ did in such brilliant fashion) or to play it totally straight.
But that’s what happens when you get someone who’s not funny and can’t direct to make a comedy film I guess.
oh it's a great concept, I agree with your take completely. None of the jokes land and you end up with a bunch of dogshit characters and a total mess of a 'plot'
are there asian films directed by women that are KINO?
>love lies bleeding
>anatomy of a fall
>saltburn
>Leonor will never die
>neptune frost
>relic
>censor
>saint maud
>titane
>portrait of a lady on fire
Saltburn was shockingly bad
>saint maud
This one wasn't great, directing was fine but the ending felt really rushed and unsatisfying
I would add to this list
>The First Omen
... Which had a crappy, silly ending, though I assume by studio mandate
she was the choosen one...
hitler before and after hrt
>majority of writers now women and/or nonwhite
>everything is shit
I went into a bookstore the other day and it felt like every book is some weird 25 part fantasy series by a female author.
American Psycho
Best kino with woman directors
Black Hawl Down
We Need to talk about Kevin
Titus
strange days
Man, I have such a fondness for Titus because I saw it randomly on TV as a little kid with no adult supervision
matrix
>black hawk down
Uh anon Ridley Scott is male…
It doesn’t matter how many billions go down the drain. Someone will make another Lost in Translation and the wheel of death will turn anew.
Barbie was the best selling film of last year and was nominated for mutiple oscars
>best selling
Doesn’t make it quality
>multiple Oscars
Doesn’t make it a good film
Your quantitative yardstick is fricked up and you talk like a moron.
>film by women don't sell!
Except they do
>people don't like then
Except they do
Name 5 recent examples that did well at the box office and have good audience scores.
Barbie, aftersun, pricilla, nomadland and where the crawdads sing
>aftersun made $9.7 million
>pricilla made $33 million
>nomadland made $39 million
Three of your examples no one saw. And Barbie and Crawdad were both based on bestselling, well-known products (a toy and a novel). But hey, I'll give you those, because yes they did do well.
Literally the only thing that sells in hundred of millions is capeshit, meme movies or cartoons.
So what? What's stopping a woman from making a movie that rakes in money? Is there some rule that says only capeshit can make big bucks? No, they just suck at making movies. Most men are terrible at it too, don't get me wrong. But women are even worse.
>Is there some rule that says only capeshit can make big bucks?
Yes, it’s called current day market demands. You could make the best movie of the decade but if it was an original drama movie it would more than likely flop at the box office where as twenty years ago it would have been highly popular mainstream hit. Because audiences and their behaviour has changed. And theatres prefer to put superhero crap on rather than dramas.
What a moronic way of looking of that things. No man, when an actual good movie comes along it sells like crazy through word-of-mouth alone.
Sure, there's an "underrated gem" every once in a while, but for the most part the market is very efficient. The reason original dramas don't do well is because they aren't good. Good meaning they're received well by both critics and audiences AND have wide appeal. Not some niche oscar-bait bullshit. If you think only capeshit can sell well, you're wrong. It's not the audience, it's the shitty unappealing movies people are putting out.
>No man, when an actual good movie comes along it sells like crazy through word-of-mouth alone.
Not true at all anymore.
Give me some examples please. I'm genuinely interested in what movies you could be thinking of.
Lighthouse
The Banshees of Inisherin
The Menu
Boiling Point
Iron Claw
Green Knight
C’mon C’mon
Blue Bayou
Kajillionaire
Shirley
News of the world
The Father
Last Night in Soho
Nightmare Alley
Judas and the Black Messiah
Most of these are serious dramas/artsy films made for critics and snobs. None of these have wide appeal. Please understand that the people who go see movies are from every walk of life.
>Predator has wide appeal because it attracts men who love blood, guts, and war.
>Jurassic Park has wide appeal because it's a thrilling adventure that the whole family can enjoy.
>Men in Black has wide appeal because it's a goofy comedy with scifi elements that, again, EVERYONE can enjoy.
These are the types of movies I'm talking about. I'm sorry but the fricking Lighthouse doesn't appeal to large swathes of the population. If you can't grasp the reason why, you're a fricking idiot. It made exactly the amount of money it could possibly make. HEY GRANDMA WANNA GO SEE THE LIGHTHOUSE IT'S BLACK-AND-WHITE AND HAS TWO MEN DOING GAY SHIT.
They’re great movies with good acting and stories and if word of mouth was enough they would have been made way more money than they did. Instead people flock to Marvel shit and Avatar, etc.
Those did as well as they could have possibly done. The problem is they don't have wide appeal. Do you understand that concept? It's like a skilled fisherman who only fishes in small ponds.
If your idea of wide appeal is just schlock.
>schlock
Ah, I'm talking to a moron that parrots the phrases and opinions of others. Got it.
>wide appeal
It changed. Streaming and capeshit killed pretty much every other genre. Compare box office from the 90s to modern one.
They didn't kill anything. Capeshit did well, so they allocated funding towards that. You guys are mixing up the chicken and the egg here. We could easily go back to the 80's and 90's blockbusters at anytime--the problem is the talent isn't there. Again, it's not the audience or people's tastes that have changed, it's the movies.
If King’s Speech came out today it would bomb.
Except in the 90s thriller, romances, comedies, even erotic films could be blockbusters. Do you really think if someone made Sleepless in Seattle today it would be one of the best selling movies of the year?
Black person, yes. "Anyone but You" just made boatloads of money. Romcoms are severely underserved right now.
ANd how many romances don't make any money?
Also, still not top 10 of 2023.
He gave an example of Sleepless in Seattle and I gave a modern comparison. The idea that people suddenly don't want comedies or romance or thrillers anymore is moronic. They just don't make good ones anymore. The second they make a good one, people will go see it. The examples of "hidden gems" that should have done better were almost all drama/arthouse--of course no one goes to see those, except on rare occasion.
Adam Sandler slop like Uncut Gems made money, even in the worst conditions i.e. releasing right before COVID lockdowns.
There is zero talent in Hollywood these days, otherwise they'd be able to produce similar results. Instead they report losses in the hundreds of millions and suck eachother off while crying how things would be different if it was the 90s.
Anon is correct. The 90's shit is a fricking excuse for lack of talent, nothing more.
>releasing right before COVID lockdowns.
It was released nearly four months before lockdowns, dumbass.
So? Are you saying women don't direct capeshit?
The Marvels, Madame Web, The Eternals, Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman 1984 and Black Widow were all directed by women.
Women don't make many big budget movies in the first place. But there's obviously Barbie.
>Which films from female directors from the 21st century do you believe project as classics?
From the last few years it's obviously Sciamma and Portrait of a Lady on Fire, also Maren Ade with Toni Erdmann.
But there's in general plenty of female directors praised by critics, they just don't make mainstream Hollywood movies.
Barbie
Hurt Locker
American Psycho
The Matrix
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
A League of their Own
Big
Clueless
Lost in Translation
homosexual those aren't recent, those are across all-time. Yes I agree there have been cases of a woman making a successful movie, but it's the exception not the rule. Also The Matrix LOL
Across wider time frame gives you more evidence women are capable of making successful and good movies.
Yes, but women were significantly less moronic before the cultural shift of 2008 and beyond. If we were having this argument in 2002, I'd agree with you. But now? No way.
Holy cope
Again, name RECENT examples of female-directed blockbusters other than Barbie. Which, again, had tremendous pull because it's one of the most well-known brands in the world.
This board was insisting for months Barbie was going to flop.
>basement dwelling incels don't have their fingers on the pulse of muh society
shocking stuff
So you don't have another example of a recent successful blockbuster directed by a woman that wasn't attached to the first movie of a worldwide legacy brand? A dog could have directed Barbie (and kinda did, woof woof Gerwig and it would have been successful.
Pretty much all her movies sold very well.
Lady Bird:
Budget - $10 million
Box office - $79 million
Little Women
Budget - $40 million
Box office - $218,9 million
That wasn't the question.
Because the question is already biased. Not many women make blockbusters. Capeshit made by women flopped because of the current trend and not because they were made by women.
Captain Marvel made over a billion and was co-directed by a woman
Wonder Woman was one the most profitable movies of its years
Captain Marvel was the Marvel movie before Endgame and people were misled into thinking it was integral to Endgame. Also pretty sure Disney just bought out empty theaters to pump up the numbers. And the rest of that franchise flopped. Wonder Woman was 7 fricking years ago and the sequel flopped. RECENT.
Excuses excuses.
Recent examples, Black person. Because it seems like plenty of bug budget projects are being directed by women but they suck shit and lose hundreds of millions.
Far, far more male blockbusters are bombing and losing money.
You don't understand per capita. Also, what happened? Isn't the non-stop feminist propaganda that women are better and smarter and stronger than men in every way? By the looks of the numbers, sure doesn't seem like it. Tell me how many female-led movies - not directed by, just starring - are doing blockbuster numbers? I'll wait.
Taylor Shift’s concert movie
Barbie
Captain Marvel
Little Mermaid
Smile
M3gan
Black Widow
Cruella
>that's not really a movie, it's a concert film starting the biggest singer in the world with a young fan base
>Already been discussed to death and the originator of "name a recent movie" topic under discussion here
>That movie is from 5 years ago and as previously discussed, the fans were misled by Marvel that it was integral to Endgame (it wasn't) and Disney likely bought out empty theaters to boost its BO
>Little Mermaid was a huge flop and widely ridiculed
>I guess? It's a horror film so gender had little to do with it
>That starred a robot character, not technically a woman as in human female
>Huge flop
>Huge flop
Can you read? Maybe two of those qualifies, both are horror films, and one is about an evil robot
I'll give you this: women are horrifying, all right.
Nomadland did seven times its budget.
Hustlers did 150 million on a 20 million budget
Farewell was 23 million on a 3 million budget
The Rider 80k budget did 4 million at the box office.
Women are capable of making good movies with modest budgets and make a good profit
>2020
>2019
>2019
>2017
come on man, he said recent.
>if it didn’t come out in the past two weeks it isn’t recent
Your most recent example is 4 years old. not particularly recent.
Considering how the two of those four years were during covid that both delayed releases and also delayed/cancelled productions considerably? And then the same thing happened again during the writers strike? Yes, it counts.
so covid selectively pushed back the release dates for only women and not men...
There are way more male directors working so any delays will disproportionately affect the output of female directors.
o rly, how does that work haha. give me a detailed explanation.
lmao this is what talking to a hole will always devolve into until she leaves or is hit
constant backtracking
Do you know what the word blockbuster means?
>but Cinemaphile said!
>The Matrix
>Name 5 recent examples
2023
2009
2000
1999
2019
1992
1988
1995
2003
I think you might be confused about the meaning of the term "recent". Also Matrix doesn't count as a film directed by a woman.
>Barbie
Cringe.
>Portrait of a Lady on Fire
Cringe.
>The Matrix
ohhh you
Just because Barbie had a good marketing campaign doesn't mean the movie is good. It's just more intersectional slop people got tricked into watching, because they thought it's a fun movie for kids and adults.
OK, loser.
There's that brilliant female mind crafting another armor-piercing retort. Are you going to say he has a small dick next?
Didn't she get stuffed?
Hurt Locker? But I think that was before MeTwo.
What is American Psycho, b***h?
They leaned in
#slay #hiring
If anything it's the opposite. It's like you guys don't follow what's hot in critics circles nowadays. You will find 2-3 movies directed by woman in nearly every top 10 movies of the year lists.
Lol, I don't even watch modern stuff (want to catch up first), but I like to check out such lists.
Last year it was Past Lives, Anatomy of a Fall, Barbie.
>Take a franchise that's all about action, fighting conflict, military campaigns/war and adventure
>This mostly attracts a male audience
>Some moronic executive thinks it's a good to screw over their primary fanbase in order to cater to women who aren't interested in any of that
>It bombs
How many times do studios have to repeat this process before they get it? What's wrong with genres having a gender imbalance? Seeing Star Wars and Mad Max being catered to women is just like seeing a executive suggesting that somehow having an audience that's mostly young females, usually White, is somehow wrong and that they have to replace Barbie with some Black guy named Tyrone.
Women just lack a certain curious whimsical innovation and verve. Women blow it every time. However, they can do okay on more realistic things like dramas and documentaries. People just know if you go to see a woman director its going to be dryer than her vegana.
Women have no style when it comes to directing. Everything is just flat and static and boring.
>ten years after metoo
That can't be right.
Last 4 years, from Sight and Sound polls:
2020:
3. First Cow
5. Saint Maud
6. Dick Johnson is Dead
7. Never Rarely Sometimes Always
8. Nomadland
9. Rocks
2021:
1. The Souvenir Part II
2. Petit Maman
5. Titane
6. The Power of the Dog
2022:
1. Aftersun
2. Saint Omer
6. All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
7. One Fine Morning
2023:
3. Past Lives
5. Barbie
8. Anatomy of a Fall
>I want a list of the most overrated flicks of the last four years
>all directed by women
I'm impressed
a pity they missed How To Have Sex
It's there, but not in top 10.
Portrait of a Lady on Fire and Aftersun are probably the two best movies I've seen in the past decade.
what other gay opinions do you also have so i can think even less of you
This was good
no, it wasnt
yeah it was, not amazing but a decent 7/10
Why are there more good female porn directors than film directors?
The Blacked kinos are directed by women