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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your moronic homosexual hobby has its own board. Frick off.

    Wrong board

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      literally everyone watched DBZ on Toonami every day after school, keep seething leftoid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw dbz, pokemon, yugioh etc played on school mornings here
        >tfw my parents would make us catch a bus instead of driving us meaning I missed out
        My parents ruined my childhood

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your hobby is ruled by israelites and trannies

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Anyone watching this stuff past the age of 17 should be murdered and disposed from society.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I only watch adult puppet shows like real israelites pretending to be cops hot on the case! TV-MA (because there IS nudity and cursing yaknow because it’s for ADULTS!)
        fricking kek, DBZ is literally “deeper” than whatever gay pseud shit you guys probably pretend to understand

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hey, I'm not even disagreeing but you fricking gays have GOT TO STOP posting anime on Cinemaphile. End of. Cinemaphile users who come here for Cinemaphile content are greeted with four anime posts on the catalog alone.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No DBZ/yugioh/death note threads on Cinemaphile are important for breaking up the monotony. And from what I’ve gathered over the years it’s literal troons seething about “anime” and derailing discussion. I’d rather have the catalog flooded with Super Saiyan 3 trips/get threads than 100 threads about Amazon and israelitesney. Not that DBZ is even off topic (citing everyone watching this on Toonami every day) but off topic threads are typically the only good threads on the board. Who the frick wants to talk about marvel and Rangz of Kangz and Little Mermaid and bullshit like that? Seriously? That’s why I always suspect it’s troons derailing with anti-“anime” or whatever posts because threads like these are almost always based. So unless you’re some seething leftoid who hates cool shit and fun idk what your problem is, genuinely.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >4 threads out of 150
            oh the humanity!
            going to go make another anime thread just for you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stop posting YouTube videos and political shit and I'll keep it to Cinemaphile. At least anime actually airs on television.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >political shit
              NTA but political shit only gets posted so much on Cinemaphile because the medium of television and film in real life has become a bipartisan political battleground. You have characters like Captain America shaming white people and shit like that.
              >Superheroes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Ball threads on Cinemaphile are much more mentally ill

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any time I post on Cinemaphile I get banned, I have no idea why. It’s a more gatekept board than /lgbt/. And the threads are mad, you can’t make heads or tails of what anyone is talking about, just endless pastas and walls of text about cucks and dumb inside jokes only like 3 people could ever understand, it’s insane

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've been ip hopping for so long I forgot you could get banned, lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yours does too

      [...]

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anime website, tourist.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that everything post namek is trash

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not everything

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here I come kurallah.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shitty Japanese storytelling to keep the kids hooked.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. /thread

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >”it should have ended at…”
        insta-reddit

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >takes forever to transform just to pad the runtime
    Frick you Toei

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course you'd think that when you saw it when you were 10 or whatever

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's been surpassed 3 times in one anime

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >literally what?
      eat shit dude

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      huntergays are so obnoxious

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when some homosexual posts a generic powerup scene from their favorite shounen beatemup i think it's fair to respond with actually good scenes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you don’t like DB fine but i doubt you’ve even seen it, just seen some redditors making fun of the characters screaming and you hopped on their troon train

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i've watched it multiple times and read the manga multiple times but that was in my early 20s. i've upgraded to hxh.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah if you think it’s a generic beatemup you got filtered HARD, but there’s many such cases of that in all fairness to you
              DB is the ULTIMATE midwit filter

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hunter Hunter is shit
        The characters are fugly as shit and plot insists upon itself while being toddler tier
        I’m so sick of moronic 90 IQ third worlders talking about this garbage. Even watching Naruto is more dignified than this shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >naruto
          lmfao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad you’re not getting more of these scenes HxHbro, can’t imagine it’d be a good thing if you did though with how much crap the animators would need to make up to have actual animation instead of endless monologues.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing has topped Goku going Super Saiyan for the first time for me.
    Zoomers don't know what it was like at school the next day after that episode.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was Vegeta going Super Saiyan for the first time. These hyped up bad guys finally show up, kick Goku’s ass, then Vegeta goes super saiyan out of nowhere and fricks them up, that was rad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and he fricking mogs the shit out of them and makes them cry

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vegeta killing everyone on namek was peak

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          peak was when vegeta was crying like a little b***h on Namek while dying and begging Goku to defeat Frieza.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            crying or not he still had the highest body count

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yea, the schoolyard talks about dragonball and pokemon were the shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was this. Vegeta should've killed Buu and the series should've ended here

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >should have ended at X
        Fricking have a nice day but yeah this scene was beyond kinography.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Zoomers don't know what it was like at school the next day after that episode.
      Neither do you apparently. Unless you're Japanese, everyone already knew about super saiyans and that Goku turns super saiyan against Frieza, and that Vegeta, Gohan and the yet to be revealed Trunks get super saiyan too eventually. All of that stuff was already known by kids before that episode actually aired. There were toys, pogs, cards, commercials, I'm pretty sure the intro of the show showed Goku as a super saiyan before that episode. Most kids didn't even watch dbz chronologically, they were constantly doing reruns after reaching certain points for whatever reason.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >run home as fast as i can
      >he's finally gonna do it
      >YTV resets to fricking guldo

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its great, but the first time he goes super sayan is better. The official super sayan transformation power ranking is:
    Goku SSJ1
    Vegeta SSJ1
    Gohan SSJ2
    Goku SSJ3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >first time is better
      Nah. The best part about SS3 is that it was a twist. No one knew what was about to happen but they were blabbing about super saiyans the entire time so it wasn’t as much of a shock as much as it was “yessss!”
      Also Goku becoming SS3 was tense because literally no one wanted him to do it because he had a clock on how much time he had on Earth or knew what he was doing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a shit opinion nothing will ever compare to SSJ3 the first time.

      >All your friends and family tell you no
      >Your son telling you to, "do it dad"

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you’re going to love this, trust me
    feels like Goku metatextually talking to the audience here

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Goku ever go BROLY STYLE?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >super sayin 3 hype
    >no build up and it's not a character moment
    >just stalling for time while Trunks searches Bulma's room for a remote/radar
    >doesn't actually resolve anything
    The Buu arc was so pointless. Just meandered until Goku wins.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See, Reddit and midwits are too stupid to even get what’s going on in DBZ.
      This is a huge moment for Goku’s charter and philosophy. He wanted to #1 measure Buu’s power, #2 he just wanted to see how he stacked up to Buu, he wasn’t trying to defeat him because it wasn’t his place to. By fighting Buu and showing the boys SS3 he knew that if Goten and Trunks fused they would be able to beat Buu. Of course he didn’t anticipate Buu would suddenly spike in power several times but even then Gotenks was still fighting evenly with Buu. It resolves many things, you’re just stupid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And then Gotenks ends up being a gigantic waste of time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How was he a gigantic waste of time without him Buu would have just destroyed the Earth.
          Literally every single villain from Piccolo-Buu in DBZ goes through a gauntlet of all the Z-fighters, beat them all, then there’s a final team effort at the end to win.
          >durr Piccolo fusing with nail was a waste of time
          >trunks and Vegeta fighting cell was a waste of time
          wtf are you talking about? dumb moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't mind that moron you arguing with.

            He has "female" type opinions and doesn't understand improvement

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is a huge moment for Goku’s charter and philosophy
        and it goes no where all so Trunks can look for the radar in a sock draw. We then see Trunks and Gohan fuse and go SSJ3, but that went no where either.

        Besides, if you're looking for a 'huge moment' for Goku's character, then the ending of the series is far more powerful. He's fighting Uub, the reincarnation of this ultimate pink evil, and yet he decides to train the boy to see how strong he can be and pass on the mantle of Earth's hero.

        But you're not thinking logically, you're just screaming REDDIT at people that don't understand the weird amped up view of a scene that ultimately went no where, outside of Trunks finding the radar and Goku going AWOL or a couple of episodes.

        The original series is far better than anything in Z, btw.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice reddit spacing. Goku was trying to set up the guardians of the universe for tomorrow. All that had to happen or Buu would have continued to destroy cities and eventually the Earth. What you’re saying doesn’t make any sense, you just want the heroes’s very first plan to instantly work and defeat Buu? Might as well just skip the Frieza saga and have Goku show up and immediately go super Saiyan. I’m not thinking logically? Please have a nice day. The dragon radar was the least important factor in the entire situation. Also the “original series” is a 14-season long show called Dragonball. Trannies like you and:

          Dragon Ball ended with Frieza

          are just mindless morons who have literally no point to make and are just regurgitating opinions you assimilated from some youtube essay.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >reddit spacing
            >have a nice day
            >trannies
            Oh, so you're just fishing for (you)'s with buzzwords at this point because you can't articulate how hype you are for a scene that contributes nothing to the plot. Great. I'm out though, have fun yelling into the void about how SSJ3 wasn't wasted on a distraction tactic for Trunks to find a remote in a sock drawer lol

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bye, angry Joe Biden voter

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >buzzwords
              You ignored all the points he made thoughbeit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nta but he/you had no points.
                Go frick yourself.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am TA and I said the radar was a secondary consideration and Goku had other priorities. Another midwit filtered.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then you're moronic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Trips beats dubs. Leap off a cliff, no-argument sissy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Quality post.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The weirdest thing about Boo arc is that Kid Boo is the final opponent, but he is actually weaker than Super Boo
        Canonically, the strongest fighters by end of Z are
        >1. Vegito
        >2. Super Boo Gohan
        >3. Super Boo Gotens
        >4. Gohan
        >5. Super Boo (vanilla)
        >6. SSJ3 Goku
        >7 SSJ3 Gotens
        >8. Kid Boo
        >9. Mr. Boo

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The weirdest thing about Boo arc is that Kid Boo is the final opponent, but he is actually weaker than Super Boo
          That's not even true. Toriyama himself saw Kid Buu as the strongest. Only internet nerds say otherwise.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even in the manga, it's claimed that Kid Buu is more powerful but it's lost in translation.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Again that pic is a misunderstanding.
              How am I supposed to take you people seriously when you misinterpret facts?

              Pic related is another variant of Boo, the form which he takes after absorbing Southern Kaioshin, which I call Boo (Southern Kaioshin).
              Nobody remembers this form, because it is extremely brief.
              When Elder Kaioshin says he is getting weaker after absorbing Grand Kaioshin, he is referring to this form, which is actually stronger than Kid Boo.

              When Vegeta seperate Mr. Boo from Super Boo, he briefly reverts to Boo (Southern Kaioshin), which is when Vegeta says his ki is rising. But then the reverts to back to Kid Boo.
              And Vegeta himself is less worried.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even in the manga, it's claimed that Kid Buu is more powerful but it's lost in translation.

            *sigh*
            Buu power chart for anyone confused.
            1. Super Gohan Buu
            2. Super Gotenks Buu
            3. Kid Buu
            4. base Super Buu
            5. Super Piccolo Buu
            6. South Kai Buu
            7. gray Buu
            8. evil Fat Buu
            9. good Fat Buu

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >3. Kid Buu
              >4. base Super Buu
              wrong,
              again Goku fights Super Boo base in SS3 and gets wrecked, but he says he could take Kid Boo in SSJ3

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku fights Super Boo base in SS3 and gets wrecked, but he says he could take Kid Boo in SSJ3
                but he did fight Kid Buu while being SS3 and got his ass stomped. Him, Vegeta, and fat Buu didn't stand a chance.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but he did fight Kid Buu while being SS3 and got his ass stomped
                He didn't, rewatch it.

                Goku wreck's Kid Boo, but he keeps getting exhausted and Boo keeps regenerating faster. Which is why Vegeta offers to win him some time so he can power up.

                Which is contrasted by Goku SSJ3 fight with Super Boo on Earth where he was constantly getting bashed on rocks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku wreck's Kid Boo, but he keeps getting exhausted and Boo keeps regenerating faster.
                Yeah, that's called losing, moron. His abilities outmatched Goku, he had the advantage, therefore he won.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Goku lost both times against Buu and needed the power of the entire planet to defeat him. If he couldn't defeat Buu with just his own power alone then that means he's weaker. It's so stupid to think he could defeat Kid Buu when the original fat Majin Buu was too much for Goku despite being way weaker than Kid Buu.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Goku suggest using Dragon Ball to resurrect Gohan so he can take out Boo
                But Vegeta insist on using Genki Dama, because "frick earthlings, they can do their part"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is pic supposed to be your evidence?
            Even if you had the better quote of him saying, that I don't care, death of the author.
            I explicitly rewatched Kai version with the purest subs to figure it out, and it doesn't align with that take, even if Toriyama changed his mind retroactively:
            >Goku says he could beat Kid Boo with SSJ3, if he could maintain the form
            >Reason why Goku breaks 2nd potara is because says something like "He is weaker now, so the fusion isn't necessary anymore"
            >Goku briefly fights Super Boo in SSJ3 (before he even absorbs Gotens) and is shown getting wrecked
            >Vegeta is pissed off Goku saved Mr. Satan instead of Gohan because would defeat him with ease
            Also, note that, Goku was completely outmatched by Super Boo Gohan, so if Kid Boo was stronger than Super Boo Gohan, Vegeta would have died ten times

            The only people who argue Kid Boo is stronger are the dubgays, because the dub included multiple bullshit lines about Kid Boo being stronger, that are not in Toriyama's work at all

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Goku says he could beat Kid Boo with SSJ3, if he could maintain the form
              which he was wrong about. It's also stupid to think this when he couldn't even accomplish that against Fat Buu.
              >Reason why Goku breaks 2nd potara is because says something like "He is weaker now, so the fusion isn't necessary anymore"
              He underestimated his opponent
              >Goku briefly fights Super Boo in SSJ3 (before he even absorbs Gotens) and is shown getting wrecked
              That was Fat Buu, not Super Buu. he didn't wreck shit. It was just Buu eating a punch of attacks they do any real damage to him which is his whole gimmick.
              >Vegeta is pissed off Goku saved Mr. Satan instead of Gohan because would defeat him with ease
              Yes because Mystic Gohan is more powerful than SS3 Goku and has a better chance to win.
              >Goku was completely outmatched by Super Boo Gohan, so if Kid Boo was stronger than Super Boo Gohan
              I think the point was stating that Kid Buu is more powerful than Super Buu and not the absorbed versions.
              >The only people who argue Kid Boo is stronger are the dubgays
              >dubs
              yikes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >which he was wrong about
                No, he didn't realize strain of SSJ3, if he was still dead he would have.

                >That was Fat Buu, not Super Buu. he didn't wreck shit.
                No, there was other instance, rewatch it. When Gohan is searching for the potara Goku fights in SS3J, and completely outmatched.

                >I think the point was stating that Kid Buu is more powerful than Super Buu and not the absorbed versions.
                And that's the point that I'm arguing against

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dragon Ball ended with Frieza

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t have a soi enough wojak to quote you with.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just take a selfie, b***h

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dilate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Schemmel permanently fricked his voice doing this scene. Full commitment

      It ended with Piccolo Jr

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just like the holocaust it didnt happen but it shouldve happened.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      only trannimericans seethe with this post since for the most part they mostly only saw the worst part of the series with an amateurish fanfic dub and an out of place score

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >They aren't using the falconer dub in the throwback toonami block
    Is there some legal reason to this? They already have Kai airing on the Saturday block & it's like 15 episodes ahead of the Friday airing, so stupid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf? what’s the point then
      won’t be watching

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No heart
    >No soul
    >No style
    Get better taste anon

    ?si=eb1DiOjZvtxSy0qU

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >reddit la reddit
      you first

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You must be 18 years old to post here

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >vegeta retelling how he first went super saiyan
    >gohan going super saiyan 2 against cell
    >broly going super saiyan in first movie
    >goku going super saiyan first time
    >goku going super saiyan 3

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always wanted to see them go ssj while climaxing if you know what I mean.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SOVL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some fricked up shit would be happening every time this shit kicked in.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer the Japanese soundtrack

        ?si=soZxGW0mJIhZq_VE&t=664

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          holy frick it sounds like shit, if theres one thing about the western localization music is how it nailed the tone, these trombones and flutes and BUM BUM BUM! dumb sounding marching band music sucks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >nailed the tone
            by lazily inserting music queues during the worst moments because of how horrible the editing is at some shitty studio in Texas where they record anime dubs.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I agree, we should listen to svperior Evropean dubs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtMtuWDRIHs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the villian themes were too good

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Remastered HD 1080p
    > Cropped
    > smear filtered

    It never ceases to amaze me how there is literally no good way to watch this cartoon despite it being globally recognizable and almost universally praised and loved by fans of anime.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its quite amazing how for the buu saga the orange bricks looked so much better than the blu ray.

      All these years watching clips on youtube i assumed everyone who uploaded them just decided to mess with the contrast and saturation. The fact that this is what the official release looks like was a mindblowing revelation

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One thing about the orange bricks is that in the original US broadcast they had a filter over super buu’s voice so it sounded deep and fricked up. But on the orange bricks they have the raw audio dialogue and Buu sounds like Raditz because it’s the same voice actor. Really annoyed me at the time.
        No one happens to know if Buu’s voice is fricked up on the Blu-ray’s too, do you?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dub
    Ew.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here’s the sub for anyone curious:

      %3D%3D

      kek that was fricking gay, no one would have liked or cared about DBZ if this was the only version we got

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron. The dub is fine, but the sub is of the highest order.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Generic battle music
        >No unique theme

        Disgusting

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Superior version coming through

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty good AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

          Reminds me of Vegeta's AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA against Recoome in Kai:

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Definitely better than the Japanese version that’s for sure.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Japanese is the ONLY version.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you Black person brained morons continue to post those cancerous tracking links here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      QRD?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        necessary youtube url: youtube.com/watch=asdf123
        youtube tracking url:
        youtube.com/watch=asdf123==98jausd89asjh89dsah8d9sahd89ashd8s9ahdna89uihbn789uah2849ha894hga892iuh4892ioah4noa2ihnvaiuohnoisnoidasdass78dghas780danb0yt7v2hg4yu8aghbv8uy7rgha2yuirghbav27r8gha72r8u0hagvbn7urbna28uyvribga8iurva2

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >amerifat dub
    jesus christ the worst fricking dub in the history of dubs

    idk why you homosexuals love it so much since it added shit that you pretend to hate now
    >HAHA NO SILENCE! MUST HAVE MUSIC PLAYING ENTIRE TIME!
    >MUST ADD RANDOM QUIP!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >MUST ADD RANDOM QUIP!
      This never happened. Also see:

      Here’s the sub for anyone curious:

      %3D%3D

      kek that was fricking gay, no one would have liked or cared about DBZ if this was the only version we got

      just frick off and talk about the show instead of trooning out about “it ended at piccolo/frieza/cell” “sub vs dub!” etc. just inhale a wiener and die

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they added random quips all the fricking time moron

        you're so literally fricking moronic you thought I meant in this one scene when I meant the entire fricking shhow which added random stupid fricking moronic quips

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t know if I can think of a more evil thing to say after exploding someone’s childhood best friend before their eyes than “pop goes the weasel lol”
          I seriously don’t get what you even mean. What did he say in the sub?
          “I have killed him. He is dead.”
          epic dialogue

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the sub he said “shall I kill the boy next?”
            Way better villain dialogue than the ameri-fat quip.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pop goes the weasel is way more humiliating. Shall I kill the boy is way too stale.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              “Pop goes the weasel” is an ironic bit of dialogue referencing Goku’s weasel about to pop. Over your head.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EuroBlack folk did the fricking Big Green dub, where you couldn't even keep character names consistent. have a nice day immediately

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to mention a plothole in DBZ.
    >Kami and Piccolo don’t know they’re aliens or anything about where they’re from even though Kami is pals with King Yemma and King Kai
    Kami buddy, in the thousand years you’ve been watching the Earth you never thought to ask Yemma about where you’re from?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats not a plothole, it has 0 bearing on the story of dbz. Its just background information that was added later. King Piccolo was originally a demon but was retconned to being an alien. 0 impact on the story.

      unironically kys moronic redditBlack person

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its specially weird since there is a scene where Kami gets nervous when he sees Kid Goku´s tail if he recognized he was a Saiyan.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Jiren still the best, even after all this time? Could Vegito even hope to beat him? He couldn't beat Zamus

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kys

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Impotent kvetching as the thread rises to page 1 again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't see what's so appealing about Jiren. This dude seemed more interesting.

          Hit was cool, but the next arc needed a new muscle tower for Goku to punch through, so Hit became the designated feeder

          thanks for the bump I guess but you might as well shill nuwars in a sw prequel thread

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you might as well shill nuwars

            Not for free I'm not

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see what's so appealing about Jiren. This dude seemed more interesting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hit was cool, but the next arc needed a new muscle tower for Goku to punch through, so Hit became the designated feeder

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jiren is canonically weaker than Broly, who got his ass whooped by Gogeta
      The reason they didnt fuse against him is because just like it was shown with Kefla, the potara are destructible, UI Omen is way weaker than Kefla and did negligible damage against her, he only won by destroying the potara and throwing her out of the arena, Jiren would try the same thing. Fusion dance is extremely risky since if they failed to do it properly they would lose immediately
      Cope, Jiren is old hat that has been surpassed years ago

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tardku is cringe. Stop posting him.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Super Saiyan 3 definitively ruined all transformations and any hope for non transformed characters in Dragon Ball. It's what started the rainbow hair bullshit we have now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yea because ssj2 just seemed like a more ssj1. it wasn't really a different category and you could think of it as a "more complete" ssj transformation.

      but ssj3 just goes into wild wacky lala land.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the flying frick are you talking about? SS3 was the endgame, Goku’s ultimate form at the conclusion of the series. There isn’t any “rainbow hair bullshit” that’s just moronic spinoffs, like mentioning Rangz of Kangz in a Lord of the Rings thread.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I said that's what STARTED it. Super saiyan 3 has no consistency with anything. SS2 was just like a perfected super saiyan, it wasn't really its own definitive thing until super saiyan 3 came around and everything had its own categorisation and rank. Ss3 also cemented the whole power scaling bullshit. Here's what they SHOULD have done.

        They should have completely scrapped Ss3 and just made it so that Vegeta couldn't get to ss2 even after 7 years of training. He himself is much, much stronger, but he can't reach ss2. Goku comes back and everything continues as per usual. When Gohan turns ss2 at the world tournament, it pisses Vegeta off that Gohan still has access to that power despite being a "weakling". They go to fight babadi and Vegeta goes Majin. Goku fights Vegeta but never turns ss2. Everything else continues as per usual until Goku stalls Buu. Goku and Buu fight and Goku reveals he can turn ss2. Goku and Buu fight, then Goku convinces Buu to kill babidi as per usual. This makes Buu sleepy and he stops destroying stuff for a while and builds his house to take a nap. Meanwhile, Goku goes back to Kamis lookout and, instead of "using up all his time by powering up" which makes zero sense, he just gets to stay for a whole day as was originally planned, and Buu just sleeps for the reminder of Goku's time on Earth while everything else plays out exactly the same. Vegeta comes back and is pissed about Goku turning ss2 instead of Ss3. That way, the power scaling doesn't have to be exponential. In fact, theoretically, Buu could be barely stronger than Cell and the series would still work. It also wouldn't make the show so obsessed with new transformations, and other characters could have a chance of being relevant.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          toriyama's editors probably forced him to keep exponentially increasing powers

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What other route was there than to keep increasing the powers to more and more absurd levels, to create more hurdles to be jumped? Now Goku is so powerful, he spars with the most busted characters that remove all urgency from the series

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Goku goes to train in Heaven with gods and immortals for 7 years
            >he wasnt going to get any stronger
            Literally what? SS3 is the logical conclusion for the journey this guy set out on, of course he was going to get way way way fricking stronger than he was training on Earth 7 years ago, that has nothing to do with “power levels” or escalation or whatever reddit loves to complain about it was just the rational path of logic of what would occur in this setting. They only way they wouldn’t have “power crept” the show as it went on if there were no time jumps and villains just showed up right after another with no time for them to prepare or train, but these guys are warriors and that’s all they do and it’s not like there’s villains prowling around all over the place 24/7 like Batman books, someone strong enough to possibly challenge these guys don’t just pop up out of nowhere. After Frieza, they solidified their position as the most powerful beings in the universe and the only reason any other bad guys were stronger than that is because Cell was a clone hybrid of all those guys and Buu is a supernatural entity that has existed for millions of years. In other words of course all these superpowerful warriors who do nothing but train are going to continue to get way fricking stronger, it literally would be like a plot hole/not make sense if they didn’t. Gohan for instance hadn’t really improved since he slacked off but they made that a point in the story. What would you have written? All the characters out of nowhere become couch potatoes so Frieza-level dudes are still a threat so there’s no “””power creep””” like what?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm too stupid for Dragon Ball: The Post
          Vegeta willfully accepts Babidi's power specifically to gain SS2. You can't go Majin without SS2 because a) that's the whole point and b) he was only Majin+SS1 for half a chapter.
          Buu cannot be resurrected on time without combat between SS2 Son Goku and SS2 Vegeta. That's why Babidi and Dabra didn't need to do anything else.
          The show wasn't obsessed with new transformations. SS3 had no feats. Ultimate Gohan had no feats. It was a continuation of the theme of the Cell arc; we were able to push ourselves beyond SS1 to defeat Cell, so let's try again - oops, that didn't work! Well, Vegeta gets character development, and the whole world saves themselves with the Super Genkidama.
          Yes, it's kind of gay Gohan gets sidelined again, and Goten and Trunks end up being worthless, but the day is ultimately saved by Mr. Satan and all of humanity, rather than Goku going SS3 and overpowering Buu on his own.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            are you an illiterate moron? he knows how majin and ssj2 and all that shit works in the original story. he's saying it should be changed and ssj3 should be removed because it's a cringe goofy ass powerup.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >he
              You don't have to pretend to be a different guy, anon. You can say "I."
              Anyway, if you're going to change all that, you may as well remove Majin Vegeta completely. And keep Goku in the Other World, for that matter. Goku displays the SS series to buy time for the Dragon Radar and to impress the kids so they'll want to commit to the Fusion training. If SS3 is stupid or overpowered, Fusion is worse. So to cut SS3 would be to cut Fusion. To cut Fusion is to make Goku's presence on the Lookout unnecessary. Fusion is needed as a tool to defeat Buu so Goku wouldn't have to. Buu needs to be defeated because the SS2 battle woke him up. The SS2 battle happened because Vegeta saw Goku has SS2 as well and he was jealous, just like how his jealousy and injured pride pushed him to unlock SS1.
              If you're changing SS2 and 3, you're changing 70% of the Majin arc. You may as well say
              >Gohan got weaker because he lapsed with training
              >Spopovich beating Videl got him mad again
              >Kibito and Kaioshin prompt Gohan to regain his SS2 power
              >maybe Vegeta still fights Pui Pui but otherwise Gohan does everything he needs to defeat Dabra and stop Buu's resurrection
              >maybe Dabra still petrifies Piccolo, pissing Gohan off and pushing his SS2 power
              The thing is, we've had power-ups for villains since Piccolo Daimaiō used the Dragon Balls to restore his youth. You're not going to have two forms for Vegeta, four forms for Freeza, three forms for Cell, and just have Fat Buu as the final boss.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't have to pretend to be a different guy, anon. You can say "I."
                why do people accuse others of pretending to be other people when it doesn't even make sense. and i'm not reading the rest of that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and i'm not reading the rest of that.
                tl;dr if you're going to change the context of Majin Vegeta to remove it's purpose, you may as well make Gohan stop Buu's revival entirely

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Started what? SS3 was the finisher. If you watch all the cash grabs and spinoffs that’s your problem. I guess I get what you’re saying like SS3 looked crazy and it was hard to go from there but these people weren’t thinking about some gay brand or franchising, they were just writing a story and making it cool. It was the end of the show of course they were gonna blow their load and go ham.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not even the best adaptation of the book
    >90% of the episodes are filler
    The absolute state of shounengays.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >absolute pinnacle of fictional media and has never been surpassed.
    >posts literally the worst looking transformation in the franchise
    >immediately loses to fat Buu which is the first time a major transformation has ever lost upon it's reveal in the entire franchise
    >can't win with it so he decides to have the weak ass kids fight Buu instead
    >they turn SS3 with fusion
    >still loses
    >every single time after that where SS3 is used, the person loses the fight and has never won an actual battle
    >has the biggest drawbacks of any other transformation
    >nowadays no one cares anymore so SS3 remains as the 6th most popular transformation in the franchise
    >it was so shit that in Super they had future Trunks surpass SSB with SS2 during the fight with Zamasu instead of having him go SS3 because no one wants to see that shit.
    It's always been shit. It looks stupid, has too many things that make using it utterly pointless, it can't ever win a single fight, and was introduced during the worst arc of Z. Also
    >dub

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >posts some gay digital supershit
      didn’t read

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's from a DBZ movie, secondary

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I liked this when it came out I guess but in hindsight it’s absolute garbage. And Super is exponentially worse than that. I never thought I would defend GT but even that piece of trash is miles better than the Nushit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're moronic if you unironically think GT of all things is better than anything in Super. Also Battle of Gods is quite literally in the top 5 best films in the franchise

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pan>Caulifa+Kale
              Sorry

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're all shit characters, moron. Also I'd argue Pan is WAY worst than the others because at least they are secondary characters who appear in a handful of episodes. Pan is a MAIN character who has MORE screen time than ANYONE else in the show including Goku for the first 30 fricking episodes of the series (which are universally considered the absolute worst arcs of GT). That means if you hate Pan and her obnoxious personality which everyone does, you have no choice but to sit through that bullshit for long stretches of time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pan is cute. People hate her because they're subverted by brainworms into having visceral disgust to cute things. They just want to jerk off to burly men groping each other with no breaks

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice non-argument. Next time just admit you're a braindead pedophile and move on.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You offered me no argument, just personal opinion
                >Pan is obnoxious
                Is all you said definitively.
                The entire first arc of GT was cut in the original dub anyway, so the overwhelming majority of episodes focused on her never aired on American television. The TV airings picked up on episode 16 I think.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As a DBgay GT and Super really piss me off. Both absolute garbage. Goku and Vegeta are stoic, wise, deadly warriors but they’re moronic jackasses in the spinoff shows. Egregiously so in Super. Like it’s painful and annoying seeing scenes with Goku and Vegeta needing training and getting humiliated by these stupid shitheads in dresses. In DBZ when you meet the gods Goku and Vegeta had already surpassed them. Super is beyond gay, I hate that as much as I hate Disney Star Wars or something, super has about the same amount of respect for the setting and characters.
              Going back to GT as shitty as it is the hand drawn animation and hand-painted matte backgrounds look fricking great compared to the ugly, sterile, glossy super horse shit. have a nice day honestly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A theme of Dragon Ball's has always been that there is someone stronger out there, Goku and Vegeta needing more training is not a bad thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                them training themselves is fine, them needing help and getting their asses kicked by random OC nobodies is fricking gay and you didn’t address anything else I said either
                Goku isn’t a dumb idiot and Vegeta isn’t a mindless angry butthole, that’s just what morons see on the surface when they watch the real show, and how the writers of this new garbage write them. Frick how it looks I just can’t stand watching my guys be turned into sissies, sorry not sorry I fricking hate gt and super
                Like Gogeta spraying confetti on omega Shenron. Because Vegito acted like a wienery butthole that means he’s a wienery butthole! No, he was trying to antagonize Buu into absorbing him so he could save everyone in the original show, he wasn’t a wienery arrogant butthole at all. Same thing in super, he’s a moron who gets jobbed and then they evil containment wave the bad guy. If anyone has ever watched the show evil containment got debunked the very next time they tried to use it and piccolo was like “no” and reversed it onto Kami instead but this dude who can kick Vegito’s ass can be evil containmented? I hate these gay shows the more I think about them holy shit frick you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku and Vegeta are stoic, wise, deadly warriors but they’re moronic jackasses in the spinoff shows.
                You literally know nothing about Goku's character and the fact you said this with such confidence is insane.
                >Like it’s painful and annoying seeing scenes with Goku and Vegeta needing training and getting humiliated by these stupid shitheads in dresses.
                How is this real criticism? You're mad the OP heroes getting humbled by entities more powerful than they are? What's the issue here?
                >super has about the same amount of respect for the setting and characters.
                Super has more legitimate character development than GT and half of Z.
                >Going back to GT as shitty as it is the hand drawn animation and hand-painted matte backgrounds look fricking great compared to the ugly, sterile, glossy super horse shit. have a nice day honestly.
                You say this and yet GT doesn't have good animation AND has the least memorable fights in the entire franchise while Super at least delivers some of the highest quality TV animation in the franchise during the Zamasu and ToP arcs which is more effort than anything Toei did for GT and that's a fact that cannot be argued. Also people justifiably shit on the glossy ugliness of early Super but by the end, the art and animation quality had drastically gotten insanely better and no one ever gives it credit for that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn’t make any retorts you just said NO UR WRONG! If you think Goku is “stupid” than you’re a moron. And Super has no character development whatsoever. I remember watching a clip of Vegeta going super super blue or some stupid shit because he felt inspired by that gay little kid going super Saiyan. Is that the “character development” you’re talking about because that was the gayest, cringiest thing I’ve ever seen and the fact you’re here shitting up this thread with super shit pissing everyone off just proves my point. You’re a douchebag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You didn’t make any retorts you just said NO UR WRONG! If you think Goku is “stupid” than you’re a moron
                Nice cope. See pic related, moron. Goku is a literal moron who doesn't give a shit about anything but fighting people.
                >And Super has no character development whatsoever.
                The frick are you talking about? Look at what they did for Krillen? Roshi? Android 17? What are ANY of those characters doing in GT? Every side character from Goten, to Gohan, to even Uub was made completely relevant while Super went out of it's way to actually do shit with these characters.
                >I remember watching a clip of Vegeta going super super blue or some stupid shit because he felt inspired by that gay little kid going super Saiyan.
                homie literally complaining about character growth lmao. He has a wife and kids now and you're b***hing at the fact he's impacted by another saiyan who Vegeta wants to see become stronger and give his race the honor it deserves in his eyes.
                >You’re a douchebag.
                You're an angry insecure moron who's crying about shit despite not having a single good argument for literally anything lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku is a literal moron who doesn't give a shit about anything but fighting people because my Reddit screenshot says so
                What the frick are you fricking talking about Goku makes self-sacrificing and hard choices all the time, you literally watched a Plinket tier meme video and believed it instead of watching the show or formulating your own ideas
                Goku is one of the wisest characters in fiction, definitely the smartest character in his show, but he grew up in isolation and doesn’t understand social intricacies so he comes off as an idiot but it’s everyone else who is “smart” that are morons
                I bet you think Goku just got tricked and was being le dumb when he let go of Raditz’s tail. Fricking moron troony, KYS

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What the frick are you fricking talking about Goku makes self-sacrificing and hard choices all the time, you literally watched a Plinket tier meme video and believed it instead of watching the show or formulating your own ideas
                Are you moronic? So you're saying just because Goku has MOMENTS where he makes good decisions, that somehow means he isn't a moron which is literally how the author of the story WRITES the character? You make no sense. He's a fricking jungle boy who raised himself alone in a jungle and canonically couldn't even tell the difference between a boy and a girl until he was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD and only figured it out by constantly padding other people on their crotch just to verify. Of course he's a moron and that still shows even in Super. Just because he shows instances of wisdom, that doesn't inherently mean he's a smart person. He's always been depicted as stupid by Toriyama since the beginning all the way until the day he passed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >character who has zero education is dumb
                gee who would have thought

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He's always been depicted as stupid by Toriyama
                Yeah you’re just a moron. He was definitively naive as a kid but basically ascended after training with Kami, you probably didn’t even watch those episodes though. The stupidest thing he ever did or the only time I disagreed with Goku I should say would be when Tien was giving it his all trying to hold back Cell and Goku was b***hing about it saying “Tien you moron get out of there.” and didn’t believe in Tien at all. Other than that this dude is never wrong and always knows what to do and what’s right and everyone looks to him at all times. Just because he acts “le silly” because he grew up in the woods in isolation doesn’t mean he’s stupid. No idea wtf you’re talking about. You’re literally just a filtered midwit who got his opinion fed to him by a troony youtube essay and you know I’m right too.

                >character who has zero education is dumb
                gee who would have thought

                >~~*education*~~
                The reason why Goku is smart is because he got a REAL education (in life). You think going to some government building while some white guilt creeps talk at you about the Civil Rights movement makes you smart? Knowing facts and trivia doesn’t make you smart at all, you fricking midwits I swear to God lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Intentionally jobbing to to Cell so Gohan could have a turn was pretty fricking stupid in the long run

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah if that’s what you got from that you’re a moron. He knew how strong Cell was by fighting him but saw Gohan go SS2 in the time chamber and knew Cell was fricked.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You say that and yet Goku literally doubted himself during the fight with Cell when Piccolo called out. Only by LUCK did Gohan finally achieve SS2 which still wasn't enough to defeat Cell

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Goku did have a moment of doubt yeah but ultimately he was completely right. Piccolo was the stupid one in the situation but because he was flipping out Goku kind of second guessed himself for a second.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >completely right
                Goku had to literally die in an attempt to neutralize Cell, because his gamble on Gohan failed. Dont act like Gohan ultimately prevailing was part of some master fricking plan on his part....he fricked up big time, and just to lucky.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he had to die
                moron Goku knew it was time for him to die to stop Cell. He wasn’t wrong, Gohan was just screwing around, but it’s not like Goku got fricked over and killed, he wanted to die and chose that moment as his last.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he wanted to die
                lmao stop

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That was to highlight one of his character flaws: overestimating the fighting instinct of Gohan. He knew on pure ability Gohan could beat Cell, and both due to his Saiyan genes and because of his parenting style he assumed that Gohan would be chomping at the bit to test his mettle against Cell. That's why he encourages Gohan to fight him, because at the time he thought Gohan had cold feet simply because he didn't know if he was strong enough. It's only after Piccolo slaps him with the reality that Gohan doesn't really like fighting and only does it because Goku encourages him to that Goku realises he needs to stop projecting himself onto his son.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He was definitively naive as a kid but basically ascended after training with Kami
                Wow still showing me how much of a secondary you are. Calling someone with NO education whatsoever and can't even count the the number 13 while being a teenager "naive" is the most bullshit thing you could say. Also
                >ascended after training with Kami
                is how I know you're moronic because Goku only ever got physically stronger when training on top of the lookout. During the training with Popo, Goku never managed to become stronger mentally which is why he can't do basic shit such as meditation which he has struggled with and it's still apparent even during the events of Super.
                >you probably didn’t even watch those episodes though.
                read the manga, moron. No wonder you're so confident about shit you know nothing about. You're using the anime as a reference which is known to change the personalities of it's characters.
                >Other than that this dude is never wrong and always knows what to do and what’s right and everyone looks to him at all times.
                He's been wrong a number of times. He had literal children go up against Majn Buu and spoiler alert, they lost. Goku had to save the day once again.
                >Just because he acts “le silly” because he grew up in the woods in isolation doesn’t mean he’s stupid.
                Lmao you're so stupid it's insane.
                >You’re literally just a filtered midwit who got his opinion fed to him by a troony youtube essay and you know I’m right too.
                I can't stop laughing at you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NO education whatsoever
                Dude you’re just arguing against yourself. Going to school and “getting educated” doesn’t make you smart, you’re just being forcefed (mostly useless) information at best. Goku got a much better education from living life and doing exactly what he did from start to finish. Like, imagine thinking someone who never learned the names for numbers was stupid because they “couldn’t count”
                Goku got all the education he needed. In fact, you should have spent less time in school and you wouldn’t be so stupid. You have to read To Kill A Mockingbird 5 times in high school and you’re supposed to analyze it and shit and try to make sense of it but maybe you should have just watched Dragonball z instead of going to school, unironically lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This homie is really arguing intelligence being solely based on life experience and not the fundamental basics of education such as simple things like being able to count to 20. If you don't know something like that by a certain age, you are in fact moronic. If you walk up to someone in real life who couldn't do the basic math, you would think "oh shit, he's moronic". You wouldn't be like "well at least he he's a good guy and knows how to chop firewood". It's the most stupid argument you can make.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > only ever got physically stronger when training on top of the lookout
                You literally didn’t watch those episodes. have a nice day for these walls of text, why are you even arguing with me. Some seething troony defending ~~*dragonball Super*~~ why? No one cares. You’re wrong. I don’t even feel like debunking every dumb thing you said.
                >Goku was le dumb for letting the kids battle Buu
                no he wasn’t he was making the tough calls everyone else was too stupid or scared to make

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't refute a single thing I said therefore I accept your concession.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I did. Reading trivia in books doesn’t make you smart. You probably missed the episode where Goku trains his mind to be absolutely silent or learns how to catch a fish before it’s even on the line and shit like that. You can’t even name one dumb thing he did. You’re cherry-picking complicated moments like the Cell sacrifice that are gray at best. Goku is never wrong or stupid, except like I said with Tien. He was being really rude then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku trains his mind to be absolutely silent or learns how to catch a fish before it’s even on the line and shit like that.
                Congrats on mentioning non-canon filler, moron. Take the L.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >n-n-n-no that wasn’t supposed to happen!
                frick you, you obnoxious sissy

                Supreme Kai was not a reliable source of information...for example, he had no knowledge of Goku and friends or their capabilities.

                Supreme Kai was shocked by the super Saiyans so he’s not a reliable source of information? wtf are you talking about seriously frick you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >frick you, you obnoxious sissy
                Only you will argue against literal facts and then b***h about it. Why not just admit when you're wrong instead of acting like a stubborn child. You were wrong about everything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I had no idea how strong Saiyans are
                >This existential threat is super strong
                Yes that makes him unreliable, especially as a judge of power levels. Later on, Goku himself says he could have killed Fat Buu, but didnt because he wanted the kids to do it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Goku has a sense of justice and good heart but ultimately he is a self-serving wild man who seeks to test and better himself as a fighter, sometimes even at the expense of others. That is what makes him a compelling character and differentiates him from other more generic heroes. I blame Funimation for trying to make him seen like he is more than that.

                >NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO—

                In the sub Cell says "Holy shit!"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                しまった is not holy shit nor is it a swear

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, whoever subbed it, localized it as "holy shit." Cell also says it when Vegeta final flashes him. I don't care if it's a 100% accurate translation, it's still funny and a fitting reaction.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the german dub of the final flash has cell yelling OH SHIT in english it's pretty fricking hilarious

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >self-serving wildman
                No he’s not at all. Lives a completely selfless existence, albeit he enjoys himself because he enjoys battle. You think he would choose to go battle Buu and risk the universe and everyone’s life for it? Like gather the balls and wish Buu to life just for sport? No he wouldn’t. Goku is the least self-serving character in the show. In fact his entire character is about finding a successor to replace him when he can no longer defend the universe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >selfless
                They why didnt he straight up murder Babidi? He and Vegeta both were basically jizzing their pants at the possibility of some super strong unknown person to fight. He could have easily gone straight after Babidi to prevent Buu from happening, but didnt just for his selfish desire for the next challenge.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wtf are you talking about Goku was begging Vegeta to not fight but if Goku didn’t fight Vegeta he was going to continue his horrible killing spree, Goku had no choice but to stop him

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im talking about before the Majin Vegeta stuff. Instead of fighting Babidi's henchmen and watching Gohan lose they could have just went straight for Babidi and killed him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, Supreme Kai said if they nuke babidi’s ship they could accidentally awaken Buu so they just went through the gauntlet of Babidi’s guys so they didn’t damage the ship. And it’s not like Goku didn’t have a backup plan anyway if things went awry, he wasn’t walking into a buzzsaw he knew if need be he was a fricking super Saiyan 3.

                >he wanted to die
                lmao stop

                Yeah. He explicitly said he did not want to be wished back and also didn’t transmit back to earth and instead stayed to take the blast. Are you stupid?

                Goku literally stops Krillian from killing Vegeta, the man who killed all his friends, including people they believe cannot be brought back with Dragon Balls, who also tried to kill his son, destroy the entire Earth, and broke every bone in his body and beat him to within an inch of his life, and knows this man will certainly one day come back one day for vengeance just because he wants to fight him again to test his limits further.

                >hes stupid for showing mercy!
                ok you must be baiting me now or are genuinely stupid. this is why midwits/redditors don’t get Goku. He wasn’t going to slit Vegeta’s throat after Vegeta had already been defeated, he wanted to give Vegeta another chance and show him a better way, he’s not a petty butthole who is going to exact revenge and kill this unarmed, defeated dude in cold blood because he beat his friends up, you fricking midwits my God
                literal plinket YouTuber essay shit you’re spewing here

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He explicitly said he did not want to be wished back and also didn’t transmit back to earth and instead stayed to take the blast. Are you stupid?
                Accepting his fate does not mean he wanted to die, dumbass. He chose to stay dead so he could train in the afterlife which has always been his biggest priority. His goal was to grow stronger which his what he prioritized over family and friends. That's how his character has always been.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No he stayed dead so villains would stop attacking the Earth. The selfish decision would have been to stay alive with his friends and family and box with Gohan and go out to eat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No he stayed dead so villains would stop attacking the Earth.
                Lmao no it wasn't nor would it have stopped villains from attacking Earth or else he would have never returned to Earth after Namek. He stayed dead to train and didn't feel like Earth was in danger any longer knowing that Gohan who had surpassed him was still around to protect it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lmao no
                Ok well that was Goku’s reasoning so idk how you’re just saying “no” when that’s what happened in the story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Supreme Kai was not a reliable source of information...for example, he had no knowledge of Goku and friends or their capabilities.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The issue is Goku had no problem killing villains right up until Piccolo Jr. And it's all but stated the reason he let Piccolo Jr live is because the three years he spent with Kami made him sympathetic to Piccolo Jr. Go back and watch the Red Ribbon Army arc, Goku kills people left and right. He deliberately killed Taopaipai and laughed as he did it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And it's all but stated the reason he let Piccolo Jr live is because the three years he spent with Kami made him sympathetic to Piccolo Jr.
                Goku is just a wise warrior by the time he’s an adult. He slaughtered people in the red ribbon saga but that was way before his training with Kami. What is even your point here? You’re literally just solidifying everything I’m saying.

                >frick you, you obnoxious sissy
                Only you will argue against literal facts and then b***h about it. Why not just admit when you're wrong instead of acting like a stubborn child. You were wrong about everything.

                I didn’t argue against facts. You did. You just said “those scenes didn’t happen even though they did take the L” frick you, moron you never had a point or argument to begin with, just reiterating the same tired old “Goku is le dumb for not beating Buu, he’s le dumb for wanting to stay dead, he’s le dumb for releasing Raditz.” YOU’RE le dumb lol

                >I had no idea how strong Saiyans are
                >This existential threat is super strong
                Yes that makes him unreliable, especially as a judge of power levels. Later on, Goku himself says he could have killed Fat Buu, but didnt because he wanted the kids to do it.

                Goku says he might have been able to defeat Buu but again it wasn’t his place to. He eventually stepped in and was like ok this guy is REALLY bad but you’re just too dumb to take the bigger picture into account, you’re the kind of atheist idiot who would probably say
                >God isn’t real because he doesn’t cure cancer right now!
                It would upset the natural balance of the universe and handicap his friends and family if he kept stopping the villains instead of letting the others stretch their legs, again his entire character is all about finding a successor to protect the world for him when he’s gone.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You did. You just said “those scenes didn’t happen even though they did take the L” frick you, moron you never had a point or argument to begin with
                How dumb are you? Your WHOLE argument was claiming that Goku wasn't stupid and used his training with Kami as him somehow not being stupid anymore when I literally corrected you by saying how he never grew mentally since he lacked concertation and was only ever shown getting his shit kicked by Mr. Popo who always had the advantage over him. This is STILL a crutch for him even in Super when he trains with Whis. Your argument for that was some bullshit about Goku catching fish with his tail in random filler episodes which never even fricking happened and yet you're still arguing with me despite being wrong? My WHOLE point is that Goku is stupid which he canonically is. That's how Toriyama depicts that character. You're wrong for going against it and it's insane how you cannot comprehend this.
                >just reiterating the same tired old “Goku is le dumb for not beating Buu, he’s le dumb for wanting to stay dead, he’s le dumb for releasing Raditz.” YOU’RE le dumb lol
                Nice irrelevant schizobabble

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What a huge wall of text and you said nothing. You keep saying Goku is dumb (like letting Vegeta go) and I explain what was going on in Goku’s mind and you say NOOOOOOO and seethe.
                Goku can look into your thoughts and memory, he knew Raditz was shitting him when he was begging to be released, but he was doing the right thing and hoping that would change Raditz’s mind. You might think that’s stupid but that’s because you’re stupid. Goku is basically “what would Jesus do” as a character.
                >noooo frick Christ I hate Christ stop spewing schitzobabble at me
                Again you’re stupid and idk why you’re arguing with me. I know I’m right and I base that on everything I’ve said. You have to be a very wise and strong person to do anything Goku does. It would be all to easy to just cut Vegeta’s throat, seems like the “smart” thing to do, right? Krillin is the brains of this outfit!
                Absolute midwit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You keep saying Goku is dumb (like letting Vegeta go) and I explain what was going on in Goku’s mind and you say NOOOOOOO and seethe.
                I never said ANYTHING about Vegeta you absolute moron. You're literally creating arguments in your own head.
                >Goku can look into your thoughts and memory, he knew Raditz was shitting him when...
                I never said a single fricking thing about Raditz.
                >Again you’re stupid and idk why you’re arguing with me. I know I’m right and I base that on everything I’ve said. You have to be a very wise and strong person to do anything Goku does. It would be all to easy to just cut Vegeta’s throat, seems like the “smart” thing to do, right? Krillin is the brains of this outfit!
                Absolute midwit.
                I'm being genuine here. How old are you? You're either really young or mentally ill.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku dies of heart virus
                very wise and strong of him

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t get it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                What a huge wall of text and you said nothing. You keep saying Goku is dumb (like letting Vegeta go) and I explain what was going on in Goku’s mind and you say NOOOOOOO and seethe.
                Goku can look into your thoughts and memory, he knew Raditz was shitting him when he was begging to be released, but he was doing the right thing and hoping that would change Raditz’s mind. You might think that’s stupid but that’s because you’re stupid. Goku is basically “what would Jesus do” as a character.
                >noooo frick Christ I hate Christ stop spewing schitzobabble at me
                Again you’re stupid and idk why you’re arguing with me. I know I’m right and I base that on everything I’ve said. You have to be a very wise and strong person to do anything Goku does. It would be all to easy to just cut Vegeta’s throat, seems like the “smart” thing to do, right? Krillin is the brains of this outfit!
                Absolute midwit.

                >You have to be a very wise and strong person to do anything Goku does.
                >anything Goku does.
                >anything
                which would include dying from the heart virus

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dying is not an action you carry out, you stupid shithead, it’s just something that happens like the sun rising and setting, that’s not something he “did” idk why I’m replying to this but you tried to deconstruct the nomenclature I used to fabricate some kind of gotcha but your fundamental misunderstanding of the English language and your level of reading comprehension absolutely failed you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He thinks wisdom and bravery means a character can't also be dumb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean if you’re wise you’re definitely not dumb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                being wise isn't the determining factor when it comes to intelligence. You can live your entire life with plenty of experiences in many different areas but you can still be an idiot. You can be a mountain man who can build your own living space, hunt, and do all the things you need to survive instinctually but you can also be a literal moron as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Being wise is being smart enough to apply what you have learned to make inferences. The antitheses of dumb. That’s not to say a wise person is incapable of doing a stupid thing but I would never consider a wise person dumb that doesn’t make sense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A person who has wisdom but can't read or write is a stupid person no matter which way you cut it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah huge midwit take.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you couldn't read or write, you wouldn't be able to respond to me telling me that I'm wrong, moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you have to be smart to use a computer ya know!!!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're not an idiot if you can't comprehend the simplest tasks of communication in the modern world

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if you were taught to read and couldn’t learn it yeah you’re dumb but someone who was never introduced to language or words (Tarzan) and can’t read isn’t stupid at all

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's funny that you think using a fictional character to validate a point was a good way to respond.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you think I’m arguing against language and writing you’re stupid, it’s definitely a benefit but you’re not defacto stupid because you can’t read or haven’t had a “proper education” (picrel….)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >goalposting
                We're done here

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Goalposting? I’m not goal posting I’m saying an ancient rural hunter/sheepherder training his own dogs and living off the land who never saw a book in his life is infinitely smarter than any modern ~~*college educated*~~) troony

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah a person who cures their illnesses by rubbing ginger and rabbit shit on their wound is clearly smarter than someone with a medical license lmao.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rubbing ginger and rabbit shit on their wound
                you wouldn’t survive very long in the wild

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a good thing I wouldn't randomly be in the wild like a moron. I have this thing called a house in the suburbs with air conditioning which I pay for with the money I earn by being intelligent and knowing shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for ruining the thread with this dogshit. You couldn’t just go make a thread about Super somewhere; you just had to have this breakdown here and derail the whole thing.

                >samegayging

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not an argument schitzo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Weird that you didn't deny it and instead chose to b***h about the fact it isn't an argument. You know what else isn't an argument? Randomly b***hing about someone derailing the thread when in the middle of a conversation about a topic YOU chose to continue discussing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your argument is no he’s dumb because… he just is ok??

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for ruining the thread with this dogshit. You couldn’t just go make a thread about Super somewhere; you just had to have this breakdown here and derail the whole thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao. Slitting Vegeta's throat would have been too grim for action comedy manga, and it all worked out because Vegeta went on to become a great character. The point is that Goku in universe makes self-serving decisions simply to test his limits, but, like I said he also has a good heart and sense of justice, so he looks down on hurting the weak, even enemies.

                And yes, he is even called out in universe repeatedly by for being naive and showing mercy to those who vow revenge to come back kill him and his friends. He literally has to beg Krillian not to kill Vegeta in that scene and admits it is a selfish request.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Letting Vegeta live was the right thing to do; it wasn’t self serving at all. But it’s not like he let him go without knowing if Vegeta wanted to frick around and find out again he could beat him. There was no downside to letting Vegeta go but midwits like you and Krillin can’t comprehend the bigger picture.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He gave Frieza energy so he could escape Namek. Then got turbo mad when Frieza double crossed him because he didnt see that coming.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >didn’t see it coming
                These guys can see into each other’s minds. He was hoping that the act of giving Frieza energy would change him but he wasn’t necessarily surprised when Frieza attacked instead, but that’s what you get with Goku. One chance.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he gets called out
                yeah by morons who can’t comprehend Goku’s thought process

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Goku literally stops Krillian from killing Vegeta, the man who killed all his friends, including people they believe cannot be brought back with Dragon Balls, who also tried to kill his son, destroy the entire Earth, and broke every bone in his body and beat him to within an inch of his life, and knows this man will certainly one day come back one day for vengeance just because he wants to fight him again to test his limits further.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This was an arse-pull by Toriyama because he wanted to kill Vegeta but his editor told him to keep him around for the future. That's why it's so absurdly out of character for Goku.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This was an arse-pull by Toriyama because he wanted to kill Vegeta but his editor told him to keep him around for the future.
                No it wasn't. Vegeta was suppose to die after Namek, not the saiyan saga,

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Toriyama has openly said he made Vegeta as one-dimensional as possible in his introduction because he had no intention of him surviving the fight with Goku.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah authors saying shit decades after the fact. I bet you consider Dumbledore gay too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Part of the problem is Goku gets flanderised in both GT and Super as being a battle autist who is too stupid to even know what kissing is, whereas in Z and especially classic Dragonball, he is shown to be very smart but just initially ignorant of the outside world because he's a hick with little formal education. When put on the spot he is very good at problem solving and putting things together.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                GT was so lazy that they combined two Android 17s together and then somehow he was able to overpower SS4 Goku. I don't even get why 17 went back to being evil in GT when he had already changed his ways by that point. Never made any sense. In Super, he has family and ends up winning the ToP.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                17 basically disappears after the Cell Saga, I think he only makes a few cameos as a background character with maybe a handful of lines for the rest of the show. I think Toei ran with the idea that he was just "laying low", waiting for a time to strike. Didn't the whole "he reformed" thing come from Super? 18 reformed because she personally saw the sacrifices Krillin & Co made to save her and 17, but 17 was long gone by then and presumably had little to no contact with 18 and thus wasn't aware of what happened.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                as shitty as that webm looks still better than the entirety of super combined

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're objectively wrong. GT doesn't have a single piece of animation in it's entire anime run that's even remotely as decent as this one scene alone. Every single fight in GT is uninspired and forgettable as frick. Not a single cool moment where they dazzle you with the animation. It's boring, bland, and honestly a slap in the face compared to all the good animation we saw in DB and DBZ by comparison.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ultra dynamic meme angles
                Oof I had to shut it off 2 seconds in. The original series and hell GT didn’t rely on this. GT is fricking trash, i watched it once when I was a kid when it aired and I didn’t even watch the whole thing it was trash, but it’s still better than super. Like, Baby sucks and is a homosexual but that whole arc was alright, I’ll never watch it again but it’s definitely better than whatever crapolla you just posted, yikes. + baby looks cool and isn’t some shitty jekkel and hyde Kai reskin.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but it’s still better than super.
                You cannot argue this though
                >Baby sucks and is a homosexual but that whole arc was alright
                No it's not. Go rewatch it. I promise you it's boring as frick.
                >’ll never watch it again but it’s definitely better than whatever crapolla you just posted, yikes. + baby looks cool and isn’t some shitty jekkel and hyde Kai reskin.
                It's really not.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cant argue this
                Looks way better. The janky hand drawn BTFOs the shitty naruto/one piece tier digital glossy shit. The music is better although I guess that’s subjective. I liked the Mark Menza score for the dub who is the guy that did the music for the DBZ movies so it made it “feel” more like real Dragonball even though it wasn’t.
                It also has a grim tone. DBZ the air is always thick and tense and GT is like that while super is whacky stupid gayness at all times. GT has the color palette of an Edgar Allen Poe poem or something; it just conveys gritty grimness. Super has the color pallet of an episode of blues clues; looks indistinguishable from the current Pokemon anime.
                I can’t believe you’re making me defend GT I fricking hate GT.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Show me ONE example in GT in motion that looks better than this. I'll wait.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude I was real with you already i never even watched all of GT, I watched more of super. I watched through the tournament of power because every redditor said it was the coolest thing since sliced bread and it was a nonstop cringefest. I had to shut it off when Vegeta went super blue, that was gay.
                How about Baby assimilating Vegeta? That was cool (although we’ve already established Vegeta can’t be controlled but ok I guess he can be controlled now).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How about Baby assimilating Vegeta?
                Wow a storyline where Vegeta is being used by the villain for a second time. That's very creative and not lazy at all. Surely that's way better than a giant action packed battle royale. I challenge you to name a single moment in the Baby Vegeta arc where the fight becomes interesting. Name one cool technique that was used, a piece of animation that looked cool, or even an exchange of dialogue that was memorable. I guarantee you wont be able to.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As far as story goes, Dragonball meets The Thing is a lot cooler than gay multiverse gayness tournament, are you kidding? Come on.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what the frick are you even saying

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m saying the baby story is a lot more interesting that >multiverse bullshit, and a tournament no less. What a snoozefest. And stupid to boot. If this guy was gonna destroy all of existence Goku would try to stop him, not play his gay game. Frick super dude.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m saying the baby story is a lot more interesting that
                Why are you saying something so dumb?
                >If this guy was gonna destroy all of existence Goku would try to stop him, not play his gay game.
                Lmao what the frick are you talking about

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don’t bother replying because I’m over it it’s like arguing over piss or shit but for your own peace of mind I was talking about that weird round-headed god guy that was gonna wipe all of reality for whatever reason, that weirdo. I don’t know much about him and don’t care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If most of the anime looked like this there'd be a lot less detractors of Super, too bad you have to sit through like 100+ episodes of poorly animated garbage to get these scenes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even the early parts of Super had some decent animation which is something you can't say about GT.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The original series and hell GT didn’t rely on this
                That's because they literally didn't have the technology to do so. With enough money, they could have pulled it off but the limitations of the era effected how they can showcase different perspectives and camera angles to enhance an action sequence. It's silly to unironically use that as a criticism when those old shows absolutely would have done the same thing if it was available to them. If you showed shit like that to the animators back then, they would have been blown away. to animate a scene like that is incredible difficult, time consuming, and takes a shit ton of planning and effort.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thank God the “technology was limited” so they actually had to animate the characters fighting instead of zooming in and out frantically every two seconds.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That looks like shit, this homie HAS to be baiting
                >MUH SPEEDLINES N SHAKY CAM

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only on Cinemaphile where morons will try to argue against fundamentally good animation. Even if it's not your thing, it's still a billion times better than anything in GT which was the whole point in the first place.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >genuinely good animation
                both the webms you posted unironically look fricking awful

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                then post an example of good animation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dragonball

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't post a single example though. How can you sit there and b***h about good animation and then not refute anything but the name of something else?

                You know what, I'll do your job for you since I actually watch all the shows and have examples for all of them. DB does have some good animation but you know what else does? Super.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would I need to post examples of Dragonball when everyone ITT has seen it a million times… how about the OP ffs.
                And super looks like glossy digital one piece garbage; i fricking hate it. Looks like shit even the “goodly” animated bits which is literally 9 seconds every 10 hours of runtime.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I swear you guys never have a good argument for this shit. It's just the same buzzwords over and over.
                >boo hoo glossy digital animation le bad
                I don't give a frick if you don't think the art is that good. I myself don't love it either but I'm not delusional enough to pretend it doesn't have moments of great animation which is clearly does and it's frequent through the entire show's runtime and not "every 10 hours" like you claim.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and it's frequent through the entire show's runtime
                Oof, nope. Also I wouldn’t be shitting on you if you weren’t being a homosexual ruining the thread. If you made a super thread I sure as shit wouldn’t be in there sharting all over it I’d just keep scrolling.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao why are even b***hing about this? You're unironically annoyed with me for discussing Dragon Ball in a Dragon Ball thread which is off-topic for Cinemaphile anyway. To b***h about the type of anime discussion on a non-anime board is the stupidest shit to complain about. Wow sorry for ruining your precious weeb thread by stating facts that about the topic of discussion to morons who have no idea what their talking about when it relates to animation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And it's frequent
                Really bro?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                homie I never claimed that Super doesn't have shit animation as well because it obviously does. My whole point wasn't even to defend Super. All i'm trying to get across is the fact that Super is a billions times better than GT when it comes to the animation when it matters. There are MORE consistency when it comes to showcasing the action from a visual and creative standpoint by comparison whereas GT has NO moments of great animation at all which is why no one has been able to post any examples of it. Literally anything from the Baby saga, Super 17 saga, or Shadow Dragons saga to argue this but it wont happen because it literally does not exist. On the other hand, Super does have PLENTY of moments where it looks good and I can post those at any point.

                I'll take a show with both bad and great animation than a show with ONLY bad animation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                some more examples of bad super animation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now here are some examples of great Super animation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just go make a super thread starting with one of these webms next time and have your fun in a super thread instead of being some ugly parasite latching onto this Dragonball thread. You’re just doing it to be a jerk, the question is why.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >least popular form
    >pinnacle of anything

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post transformations that are objectively better than Super Saiyan 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Goku but red
      Looks like garbage and the final battle looking like Tenkaichi for PS2 was cringe as frick. Eat shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Still more popular than SS3, still more relevant than SS3, still more powerful than SS3, and to cap it all off, doesn't look like a moron with shaved eyebrows.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >popular
          >relevant
          spoken like some literal tuber videoessay sissoid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me, it's -Sign-

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Goko Rojo
      >Objectively better
      DBSgays have room temperature IQ.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You don't have to be DBSgay to think literally any transformation is better than ss3.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SS3 rules and always will.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he says posting the cringiest tumblr fanart

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but it mogs Super's art style

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're entering a world of pain.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bros…… we fricking need to go back…

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What went wrong?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a dumb scene in the sub made even worse in the dub
      The entire 'shock' was that Gohan said a mean word. Whupdeedo. It's like Shadow the Hedgehog saying "damn"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The kids were never going to beat Buu. Goku wanted them too but Buu was really just too bad and the big boys had to come out of retirement for one last round to beat him. Goku would never have let the villain gain the upper hand like Gohan did here. Even when he was fighting 50% Frieza getting raped he still had the bomb up his sleeve but Gohan went in with the plan to eradicate this guy, had no backup plan, didn’t eradicate him and decided to frick around, then got raped.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the Cell Instant Transmission Kamehameha is the best moment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO—

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    which is better?

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why power up? Just be strong from the beginning lmao

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Form now entirely pointless.

    >Ah, yes. No eyebrows....just like a monkey.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Super Saiyan 1 was way better than this bro.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      next you're going to tell us grass is green

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      next you're going to tell us grass is green

      SS1 was obviously sick but I got goosebumps like hardened crocodile skin when Goku started powering up for SS3.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        goosebumps? When I saw it as a kid, all I thought about was why the frick does Goku look so stupid and then I was even more upset wondering why the frick can't Goku with this shiny new power up beat this fat pink blob. SS3 is the most disappointing thing in the franchise and couldn't live up to the culture changing hype that was Goku turning SS1

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Goddamn someone ripped his nipples off.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          filtered

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            filtered by what exactly? the fact SS3 never accomplished anything? The fact it's ugly as shit to look at? What am I filtered by?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >never accomplished anything
              wtf does that mean? they needed it in order to even hang with Buu in battle

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So barely surviving is your idea of accomplishing something? Wow what an awesome transformation. It's so exciting and cool watching him cling on to life while barely being able to keep up fighting Kid Buu in that form. That's way cooler than SS1 Goku belittling Frieza. That's way cooler than SS2 Gohan making Cell and his Cell Jrs his b***h.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We got to see Buu seethe and suffer at the hands of Vegito and Gotenks, and Frieza was only at Goku’s mercy before he went 100% power and after that it was an even battle. Did you just want Goku to go SS3 and smoke kid buu? Was way more interesting watching the entire universe rally to beat this guy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like you're desperately trying to make that form more significant than it actually was.
                SS3 Goku couldn't defeat fat Buu
                SS3 Gotenks couldn't defeat Super Buu
                SS3 Goku couldn't defeat Kid Buu
                SS3 Goku got KO'd in one hit by Beerus
                SS3 Gotenks lost to duplcate Vegeta
                To make the argument "well it lead to these moments therefore it did it's job" is a terrible way to boost it up. It has always sucked ass

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >SS3 Goku got KO'd in one hit by Beerus
                wow stopped reading there, and no if you’re in a Star Wars thread one day I don’t care about fricking Reylo or any of those guys either.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Battle of Gods was a Z movie, moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was probably the best movie up until that point since it had an actual story for once and a compelling villain. I love those old movies but they didn't have much going for them outside of some decent animation and villain designs. BoG had soul to it and rejuvenated the entire franchise.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was probably the best movie up until that point since it had an actual story for once and a compelling villain. I love those old movies but they didn't have much going for them outside of some decent animation and villain designs. BoG had soul to it and rejuvenated the entire franchise.

                Dragonball ended 30 years ago, don’t care about some reboot bullshit using the same name. Picrel was actually the final Dragonball boss and SS3 turned him into dust.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >non-canon movie is the last piece of Dragon Ball
                >but none of the shit that Toriyama wrote after that is
                Nah that's just insane. Wrath of the Dragon is boring as shit. The entire film is just Tapion moping around being depressed by Hirudegen potentially returning and then he finally does show up just to quickly get killed by Goku in one punch. There was no good action sequences or any interesting moments to add excitement to the film. Your gif of Hirudegen walking is 90% of his appearance in the entire film

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a continuation of DBZ decades after it ended
                >canon
                >

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If it's written by Toriyama, it's canon. If it's not written by Toriyama, it's not canon. Simple as that. That's why Daima is the last canonical story of Dragon Ball.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I cant find fault in that logic

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it must be kinda weird being a voice actor for a super saiyan because of all the screaming you have to do

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah sex is good but have you ever tried to do a kamehameha in elementary school after DBZ on Toonami?

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this thread is incredibly autistic some of these reply chains are just embarrassing to read
    sasuga you beaner fricking morons

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am gonna be honest here. The DBZ anime is an unwatchable slog. Even with all the nostalgia and love that I have for the franchise, I simply can't stand the snail pacing of the anime. Read the manga once and never looked back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just rewatched Z and the show is interesting enough to where the pacing isn't much of an issue for me. If you like what you're watching, the pacing isn't much of a deal breaker.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As an adult I never realized how good Dragonball was. The whole trip to Namek was like watching interstellar or something.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The whole trip to Namek was like watching interstellar or something.
          Nah the whole fake Namek thing was a bit of a slog (and filler). Once they arrive is when it gets good.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The savior of Dragon Ball

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the best moment of dbz is when gohan and vegeta kill cell

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