THE BATMAN sequel reportedly on hold as David Zaslav wants to focus on his 10-year plan to revive the DCEU. Matt Reeves will keep working on the script, though, and the PENGUIN spinoff series is apparently still moving forward at HBO. However, the ARKHAM spinoff series seems to have been shelved.
How do you frick up so badly with house hold names like Superman / Batman / Wonder Woman
I'm mean ask Joel shoemaker
what?
Huh? Do you know where you are? Are you lucid?
Kept chasing MCU numbers and trying to change their formula they had going to appeal to the MCU audience.
Lack of long-term planning and knee-jerk reactionism. The solo Wonder Woman film worked. The solo Aquaman movie worked. A solo Batfleck film, the Flash movie and Man of Steel II would have worked but they jumped the gun and once Justice League blew up in their faces they got indecisive.
And the worst thing they did was still moving forward other with DCEU projects while debating whether to keep Affleck and Cavill, which meant that you had the two most important characters in the DC lineup on the shelf for the post-JL phase. They could have made a Superman / Wonder woman film instead of a WW sequel that took place in the 80's for no good reason. They could have had Superman be an active presence in Shazam instead of a faceless cameo. They could have just made the Affleck-directed Batman literally everyone was asking for since he got signed for the role. But instead they shelved Superman completely even though he's the most important character in their universe and greenlit a Batman movie that had absolutely nothing to do with all the other shit they were making.
What was the fricking point? Even if Battinson succeeded all that does is create a continuity error within the exiting DCEU because the Flash and Aquaman and Wonder Woman are all explicitly connected to Affleck's version. You just created a competing version of your own product. It's like when Starbucks started opening stores directly across from each other
Blame Harmada.
He wanted to erase Batman and Superman and replace them with Batgirl and Supergirl. And even give Mera her own spin-off before the Depp trial.
it is beyond incompetent
They’ve all been done to death outside WW. Part of why WW did well is because it was her first feature film. Novelty has worn off.
Nobody wants to see another Superman reboot let alone another Batman
If they don’t do a sequel to Batman, Batman is dead. They pump out another reboot with another Batman it’ll bomb.
Being woke and hiring woke morons
They botched Batfleck
Batman has been done to death. And by better directors that DC has on call currently.
Superman has been done less so, but Snyder's style was divisive and wasn't followed up competently.
Wonder Woman hardly got a chance before they torpedoed her with bad writing.
Please no more Batfleck or Snyder for the love of God
>seething marvelshitters
its not even a marvelshitters, those movies are actually dogshit
>responding an hour and a half later
>still no argument
lmao seething
The batman and the Snydercut are the best comic book movies in years.
>Snydercut
total garbage, the worst of his "trilogy"
The Snydercut is a fricking epic.
Poojeet moment.
Get fricked, they are the one making this shit watchable
>Please stop giving the fans what they want
>revive the DCEU
From what, them butchering it in the first place?
It's over
Is the implication that he wants to fit it into his plans and have all the movies coming out like clockwork or does he wants to stick a pin in it and come back to do Dark Knight Returns with Robert?
No small wonder. The new Minions movie did better while costing less.
Rise of Gru
R’as al Guhl
>hmmm we shouldn't make a sequel to this barman movie that made $750m with positive critical and audience reception, we should make another shitty Snyder movie that will be planned and barely push $500m
Is WBD being run by a Disney double agent or something?
Joker made over a billion on a 50 million budget and tiny marketing budget
Batman made 750 million on a 200 million budget and massive marketing budget
Joker is literally the most successful and culturally relevant capeshit of all time, not really fair comparison now is it
Endgame made double
not him but going off the points of what he said
>successful
if you are measuring success purely by box office gross, then sure, this point makes sense
>culturally relevant
has nothing to do with above point and everything to do with the ideas and clean context spread and created by the ip. sure it’s somewhat nebulous and impossible to objectively track such a thing, but i think we both know that it would be ridiculous to claim endgame had as much lasting cultural impact as the gamer movie.
Joker was rated, R…. Had 1/4 of the budget….
Disney accounting.
Compared to its budget and marketing Joker was objectively more succesful
Sure, but more people went out to see endgame even if it was the more expensive film
One of those was released post-pandemic and directly to a streaming service
The Batman sucked dick.
Uh Oh.
the batman and DC brand in general is poisoned, thanks you WB moronation. that gross is on them.
Break even point is double the total budget, am i moronic or are you?
movie theaters get a cut too
"total budget" mean production budgets, advertising (which is generally 2/3s if not equal to the prod budget) is not factored into that figure. what you said is more or less accurate for any given studio film
They spent a billion dollars in marketing, even paying Lil Caesar’s to advertise it, and it still made less money than Minions.
>750 million on a 200 million budget
>Joker made 1.1b without China, pre-bidenflation, and without the huge ticket price upcharge that was used for The Batman
>Spiderman No Way Home made twice as much
>Even fricking Dr Strange 2 made more
>Batman V Superman was considered a huge disaster by WB but it made around 300m more when you account for inflation
They should go back to the drawing board. Maybe next time take it easy on the racist anti-white propaganda.
BvS made more than The batman and that's not even account for the inflation and 30% uplift in ticket prices
Mostly because there was still some faith left in Snyder after MoS, even though people were already cautious by that point. Snyder fundamentally misrepresented DC's top 2 characters. They should never let him near it again
>Snyder fundamentally misrepresented DC's top 2 characters
Actual comic writers disagree with you.
>modern comic writers
Dan Jurgens isn't fricking modern.
Cope.
>Snyder fundamentally misrepresented DC's top 2 characters
Comic writers have been doing this for years. Batman and the rogues gallery are LGBT icons now
comic writers have been misrepresenting writing for years
>revive the DCEU
just use the batman as your new dceu starting point. building from there. make GOOD MOVIES then do the cross over stufff when the time is right.
keep snyder and the WB chucklefricks far away
>just use the batman as your new dceu starting point.
Frick no. Imagine a cinematic universe built around a dumb, weak, and incompetent Batman that cries about his white privilege. He'd be a joke of a character. The only way i can see him fitting with other superheroes if you do that woke bullshit about a black Superman that cries about racism and shit. It'd fit that anti-male, anti-white tone of this The Midman movie.
rent free
are you talking about pattinson batman? when did he cry about white privilege? the closest he came to “crying” about anything was when he thought that his dad may have been involved with political assassinations or something and that honestly tracks with his character.
>cat woman on the roof scene
if you mean this i kind of get it but all the same he didn’t really have much to say on it and probably just wanted to smash
batman is in a position to grow and evolve as a character. you dont start a long series with characters already at their end point, like snyder batman. there's nothing compelling about that
>batman is in a position to grow and evolve as a characte
Into a fricking pussy that will donate all his money to programs because his black girlfriend, his black friend, and the black mayor told him he and his father are evil whiteys.
White Americans owe black people for everything they have anon
dude just bite the bullet and find a black man to frick you. you clearly want it bad.
you sound like a man hating dyke that's subconsciously begging for some dick
I am not the homosexual that wrote this shitty movie.
>and incompetent Batman that cries about his white privilege
I watched the movie last night. This never happens. Selina b***hes about powerful white men to a powerful white man (Batman) who is constantly saving her. It's an irony, dipshit.
The Batman was a solid 8/10 for me. Most soulful Batman movie we've gotten since the Keaton movies. I understand why some people would get antsy at the runtime with ADHD culture, but to me it was a neat noir film that explored more of the investigative nature of Batman than any other movie had. Best buddy cop movie of the year too.
Oh but the gliding scene looked terrible. I saw the webms on here when it first came out and it was just as bad looking in the moment, kek.
>I watched the movie last night. This never happens. Selina b***hes about powerful white men to a powerful white man (Batman) who is constantly saving her. It's an irony, dipshit
That wasn't the intended message. If they didn't want you to agree with Catwoman, they would have drawn more attention to this idea being refuted. Batman could have said "in his experience, crime and corruption have no color" Although even that would be ignoring the reality of crine statistics, it would be better than what we got. They could have even embedded this into the plot by making the donut steel OC Bella Broccoli Hair just another corrupt cog in the wheel. Instead, they have Batman stand there quietly, like a kekold, listening to her preach. They want you to agree with her since everything in the plot reinforces her message, and even Bruce's family is shown to be corrupt. And it's implied that Batman is a bad influence on the city due to his violent methods. That he's fighting for the wrong reasons. The mayor even says he's not giving enough to the city (money). The implication at the end is that he would have helped the city more if he'd looked at how the bad white people were using his money than if he'd kept beating up urban youths.
This. The entire movie is a deconstruction of the Batman character through the lens of "white privilege". If that's what you want out of Batman movies, then good for you. But don't continue to be in denial about it.
>The entire movie is a deconstruction of the Batman character through the lens of "white privilege"
Anon what was being deconstructed was the idea that Batman is the DC Punisher aka Vengeance. He meets someone like that in the movie, it's The Riddler. If that fact that was spelled out loud and clear multiple times went over your head you have my pity.
>>Anon what was being deconstructed was the idea that Batman is the DC Punisher aka Vengeance
How is that the idea when Batman never kills in the movie?
No, the deconstruction was about Batman being a vigilante.
the deconstruction is that batman uses his white privilege, because all white men are billionaires apparently, to unleash only mindless violence that dont help the city.
>Dude he just beats crazy people and the poor, why doesnt he use his millions to improve the city! *transflag*
Literally taken from "twitter hot takes" from people who never read Batman.
And its not until the good black people like Gordon, the mayor and Catwoman that Batman learns his place and becomes a Unicef officer. Forever crippling the power fantasy of what is batman because le toxic masculinity.
That being said other than shitting on the idea of Batman, the movie is good enough. Miles ahead of whatever Marvel puts on the theater.
why deconstruct anything?
why is this the new trope of the day in modern writing?
just write a good story with relatable characters and frick off - you're not clever for 'deconstructing anything you're a homosexual midwit who thinks he's above telling a good story
If only he did any vengeance. He didn't care who killed his parents. Even Bales Batman wanted shoot his parents murderer to death.
The movie is fricking stupid as frick.
Oh, noes. Batman is an emotional and violent sob who keeps on calling himself Van Gience like a moron but we never see him being particularly that over the top violent or even kill anyone. He even says that he has a no kill rule in the movie.
But the movie is still about how violent and reckless Batman is and how that is bad. It doesn't even make any sense when the movie tries to compare himself to the Riddler who actually kills people and get results as if they were two sides of the same coin, because once again Batman never kills anyone nor accomplish much.
It's like Reeves wanted to write something more daring, but was too much of a pussy and thus took the safest route. So all we have are certain allusions that ring hollow.
You guys have been brainwashed in the opposite direction and I'm sorry. I can't stand woke shit, but this is not that. Wake up you black sheep.
They literally state the message in the movie by using Catwoman as a mouthpiece for people like you who are too dumb to get it, but you're still too stubborn to admit what the movie is about. Being able to interpret the very surface level message of a propaganda piece doesn't take a genius and it doesn't take being brainwashed either. It's all out in the open and everyone can see it. The only people who say they can't see it are idiots and liars.
dude there were so many 'modern' unnecessary injections of politics in this it was embarrassing and dated it instantly
the schuamacher bats will hold up 10x better and already have
people go to the movies to forget their problems not be reminded of them
>White privilege
Nigboy, cry harder
No, the reverse is true
You can almost smell the virginity in this post.
how can you even tell? you should be nose blind by now to it since you reek of your own virginity
>He thinks getting pussy is a big accomplishment
>He thinks he can manipulate people into agreeing with him on Cinemaphile by implying anyone who disagrees with his views must be sexually unattractive
Sleezy marketer detected. You're pathetic, find a new mind trick.
DC is like that joke about Russian history - "...and then things got worse"
Reeves and Pattinson are both out, it's over
Back to the Snyderverse
I feel so bad for dc cucks lmfao. They will never enjoy a good movie.
This sort of makes sense if The Flash is being retooled into a Batman movie.
But Reeves really needs to get over his "Batman doesn't kill" bullshit. Almost ruined the film
>But Reeves really needs to get over his "Batman doesn't kill" bullshit. Almost ruined the film
The things that bothers me about that is because in the movie Batman caused the death of many people because the movie demanded exciting action scenes, which always involves: violence + danger + death.
Pic related.
Forgoing all of that, it is also horribly shot and arranged
How would you do it?
Use something other than the overreliance on close up shots that plagued Reeves in this film.
Just look at the chase sequence earlier and how underserved the viewer is in terms of geography of the scene as it plays, the repetition of cuts to the solitary dashboards of the pursued and pursuer, the lack of long shots to reestablish the direction changes of Batman and Penguin, This goes hand in hand with the timing of the cuts in the sequence as well, as it goes for strange arrhythmic cuts back and forth in these claustrophobic setups without anything between to allow for the audience to be engaged, gradually feeding new information to them in distinct setups to get a more complete picture of what is happening alongside ramping up the tension of the chase as it evolves. Instead, it cuts again and again on the reactions of the characters involved, where it would all be better served by the actions they take instead of how they are grimacing. The grimacing and daring of their emotional states are implied already, yet that is the bulk of what Reeves chose to capture. And with the outside, it is mostly tight shots of cars weaving in a heavy downpour (already a difficult element to adequately convey action in such abstractions), but never with wider setups to further expand the geography of it all as it happens.
I can only imagine he didn't have enough footage to work with, the coverage was minimal (as though anybody shoots for coverage or master shots anymore anyway), because it is a bafflingly sloppy sequence in such a prestige action film.
second part here:
Now apply this same sort of logic to the end sequence, this time a green screen and horrid digital approximations of the distortion of focus pulling on the thug behind Batman, Then to the one in front of him. And in between, nothing really changing over either of his shoulders. It's a pretty static setup, action/reaction in a very flat closeup. Instead, why not pull out to the catwalk in a long shot on the gunfire and show the impact from one thug to another with Batman moving in profile as he dodges the bullet? It's a simple change of camera placement that immediately gives you more room to work the scene. I can't imagine this was worked out ahead of time, as it has all the hallmarks of rushed work. But ideally, something else would have worked out much better.
Ideally I say as this was all seemingly rushed work at the end and it has those hallmarks so I can't blame 'em.
>The things that bothers me about that is because in the movie Batman caused the death of many people
I swear you guys find new ways to nitpick this movie
How did the guy with the rifle standing up shoot the guy in the floor? He was literally aiming at bats not the floor.
>Reeves need to get something fundamentally connected with Batman
No, frick off I already didn’t particularly care for the film but the No Kill Rule is necessary.
>muh moralising Batman breaking scene in the middle of the action to explain that killing is bad y'all
You have to go back
The no kill rule is one of the few things he got right.
>But Reeves really needs to get over his "Batman doesn't kill" bullshit. Almost ruined the film
good morning sir
>pajeets are the ones against stupid comic book tropes
Are you fricking moronic?
Good. The movie was Woke Garbage.
low IQ take
Do we need to explain the propaganda to you in every thread?
you tried on release and you got BTFOd every single fricking time, but still cant cope with it
No. The only fallback has always been strawman arguments and insults.
You don't start your Batman movie by showing a mostly White gang trying to force a reluctant black initiate to attack an Asian guy in the midst of a rash of real world attacks by black people on Asians if you're not trying to brainwash the audience. It's obvious to everyone who saw this propaganda film and no attempts at defending it will change anyone's mind.
>a mostly White gang
Already moving goalposts. Back then gays like you said it's a fully white gang. Then I posted a picture of the huge black guy standing in the black and half of them looking like latinos and you gays shut the frick up real fast.
Then it was the white privilege line, which is harmless and even makes sense because of that character's backstory. And it gets ignored entirely too.
The only "woke" thing might be the black mayor candidate who wants real change.
The movie has writing issues, but you obsessed homosexuals only focus on the most irrelevant things which are barely there.
The leader of the gang was white and he was convincing a black kid to punch out an Asian man. I agree with you to an extent, but c'mon. That felt pretty blatant to me. No use trying to defend it.
I'm just saying that if there was propaganda then it was not nearly as heavy as in other mainstream movies. It definitely got blown out of proportion.
>the blackwashing of characters
>the movie portraying Batman as an ineffectual hero because he is nothing but a toxic white male lashing out
>the knockout game twisting reality
>the black mayor who is a "sign of change" based on nothing but her sex and color
>the black mayor calling Bruce out on his white privilege
>the blackwashed Catwoman calling Batman an out of touch incel and toxic white male
>the blackwashed Catwoman pining all of Gotham issues on white privilege
>the villain being some incel recruiting other incels from not-Cinemaphile
>the movie shitting on Thomas Wayne for being another white rich man who used his status/connections to get his way (though the movie walked back on this because the director is not only a hack but a pussy)
>the movie unironically ending with Batman deciding to being a another toxic white male like the villain
I unironically thought the movie was going to blame Batman of racial profiling the criminals he targets, using that to explain why he never went after the corrupt officials + mobsters and why things haven't improved in the two years of his activity despite him going night after night. Specially when Catwoman was giving him shit about not caring for others.
>black mayor
if you recall, he obnoxious “muh change!” got her shot, almost killed, saved by the yes, black police sgt. she had just tiraded against for not being progressive enough.
>catwoman
was an insane moron who got BTFO’d when she tried to literally strongarm batman into letting her kill the mafia boss. i’ll admit the movie could have done a better job keying into the fact that she was unhinged and obsessed with blaming others for all of her problems. roof scene was really dumb. also, they missed an opportunity for batman to be cool and stoic during their final scene together. could have been kino along the lines of
>come with me blah blah blah
>i have to stay blah blah duty blah
>we could have done something good
>you only want me to come with because you know i can’t
not going to argue the other points because i see where you’re coming from, and i can even get behind it if you want to write it off in principle of some of the messaging and not wanting to “give the mouse a muffin”. I’d only suggest you ought to develop a nuanced understanding of things, even (especially) when you are going to stand your ground on this.
They're trying to push the boundaries by making "white privilege" an acceptable thing to say in mainstream movies that are supposed to be entertaining and fun. It's not blown out of proportion at all. The more we tolerate, the worse it'll get. We need to push back as much as we can to make it untenable to put these ideas into mainstream movies.
So black mayor telling white privileged Wayne that he's a lazy piece of shit and should use privilege to help the city isn't heavy-handed to you?
>Back then gays like you said it's a fully white gang.
See, already resorting to a strawman argument. You're pretending to disprove something I didn't say.
The leader of the gang, and most of its members appear white. And if it's not obvious enough, their faces are painted white, while the sole member with a conscience is half-painted so you can see his brown skin clearly. They included some diversity in the "bad ones" so that disingenuous shitheads like you can come here and "debunk" the truth. But anyway, do you know of any multi-ethnic, mostly White real world gangs that are known for the knockout game?
This isn't the only example of psychological conditioning in the movie, it's just the tip of the iceberg. But it comes right at the start of the movie and it's very transparent. People notice, and they're unlikely to come back for a sequel.
>Makes sense because of the character's backstory
It makes sense to blame all the corruption on white people because the writers chose to give her an evil white father and make all the corrupt government officials and criminals in their movie white?
>their faces are painted white
Yeah, they are the joker gang, moron.
>all the corrupt government officials and criminals in their movie white?
The mafia are italians, so yeah, not expecting a lot of blacks there. And Gotham is also mostly white so obviously 99% of the government people will be white, just like in real life.
>the blackwashing of characters
Sucks but the actors were good.
>the movie portraying Batman as an ineffectual hero because he is nothing but a toxic white male lashing out
Way to miss the point of the entire movie.
>the black mayor who is a "sign of change" based on nothing but her sex and color
Nice asspull. Nobody even mentions that shes good because she is black.
>the black mayor calling Bruce out on his white privilege
Not really what happened.
>the blackwashed Catwoman pining all of Gotham issues on white privilege
This was already debunked in the previous post and makes sense for her character.
>the villain being some incel recruiting other incels from not-Cinemaphile
Maybe, but the point is kind of weak when Riddler literally is 100% right.
>the movie shitting on Thomas Wayne
>though the movie walked back on this
Good that you debunked your own point and invented your own headcanon of what happened
>the movie unironically ending with Batman deciding to being a another toxic white male like the villain
The frick are you even talking about? And if that was true that would kind of destroy the supposed "message" that you think the movie had.
Wignats really are fricking morons, top kek.
The entire point of the movie is to shit on the character of Batman for his vigilantism. The movies unironically shows you that despite Batman going out night after night to fight crime nothing has improved and the crime rates are actually getting worse. That all Batman focus on is on beating low criminals doing petty robbery. Then you've characters like the blackwashed Catwoman and the black mayor exposing the fact that Batman doesn't care for others and hasn't use his fortune to change things for the better in meaningful ways.
Not content on shitting on Batman to this extent probably because the producers felt that was not on the nose enough for the audience accustomed with capeshit product they went and made the Riddler a serial killer incel with internet following who recruits goons on fricking Cinemaphile and believe that Batman is his pal because they both fight crime using violence. Even Batman iconic quote of "vengeance" is thrown back at the character's face by one of the Riddler's goons because the director is as subtle as a fricking battle-axe. Then finally you've Batman ending the movie rescueing others as a first responder and monologuing about scars and helping and vengeance being le bad.
The whole thing was written by a fricking numale hack who posts on social media about Batman being a problematic character for being a rich white man and beating on poor and mentally-ill people. The Batman is a Batman movie for numales that hate the character.
It doesn’t shit on Batman. It shits on the idea of Batman looking down on Gotham from his ivory tower and never doubting the corrupt elites because he’s one of them.
Riddler can see the bigger picture because he grew up in the shitty Wayne orphanage, but even his actions become misguided because Batman inspired vengeance in him. Breaking the bones of low level thugs would never fix the city, it only fuels the rage that brings out the flood in the end.
At one point the view of both vigilantes lines up closely enough so they actually work together and heroically take down Falcone, but then the interrogation scene shows them for what they really are. Just two traumatized orphans unleashing their anger. That's why Batman has to become a symbol of hope instead, so people can look up to him and see more than just brute force. Far more interesting than "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you. I will save Joker in the next movie tho lol"
>It shits on the idea of Batman looking down on Gotham from his ivory tower and never doubting the corrupt elites because he’s one of them.
Which is a fricking interpretation of the character that the movie came up with TO SHIT ON BATMAN. That's the leftist interpretation. The people that unironically start arguments on Twitter about Batman being nothing but a white rich dude with rage issues wasting his fortune to attack urban youth instead of actually donating all that fortune to keep the youth from a path of crime.
You fricking moronic frick.
This is a leftist website, take your chud brain rot somewhere else.
>Gets btfo every thread
>W-we own this website
Cope
>Breaking the bones of low level thugs would never fix the city
>hehe I write batman as particularly stupid and innefective to prove how Batman is particularly stupid and innefective
Literally a strawman made movie
>Sucks but the actors were good.
Neither of the blackwashed actors fit their characters. They don't come close to Nolan's versions.
>Way to miss the point
That was the point. Lol what a moron. You must have missed the part when one of Riddler's goons copies Batman's line. Did they need to explain it to you like we're explaining their agenda to you now?
>Nobody even mentions
They don't need to. The writer didn't give you any real reason to trust her.
>This was already debunked
Saying that doesn't make it true. Why did the writers make all the corrupt and criminals white? No, 99% of politicians are not white. If they could make the sympathetic, non-corrupt characters black, then why didn't they make the criminals black too? What kept them from doing that? There must be a reason. Use your brain. Try it, I know you can figure this one out.
White privilege is a myth, a racist one by racist shitheads like you
>which are barely there.
so they ARE there?
how about make batman without adding modern day horseshit and make it an awesome escapist film like literally everyone before it did
>You don't start your Batman movie by showing a mostly White gang trying to force a reluctant black initiate to attack an Asian guy in the midst of a rash of real world attacks by black people on Asians
>All I understand is identity politics
What a blight. How sad your life must be, to always feel on edge.
He's right, troon
>Penguin spinoff
You know, I just finished binging all of Gotham last week. Oswald was the best character, very cute. I hope they use him in that spinoff if it's real.
Just use The Batman as the starting point if they must. They can keep whichever actors they want and recast the ones they don't. Just do what Marvel does and title it the Rebirth Saga. Reshoot a bit of the flash with a new actor and have ezra frick the timeline so bad he gets replaced by someone else
>Just use The Batman as the starting point if they must.
Why start from The Batman?
Why not? Give one reason why that’s a questionable idea, I want to understand a morons thought process
Because the interpretation of the character fricking sucked dicks.
Different anon.
The Batman was crap.
The “””realistic””” and gritty setting was crap and would be terrible for a cinematic universe. Especially for lighthearted heroes.
Not to mention having all your characters in your universe whispering all the time can get annoying.
And having your main universe Batman be a moron that needs other to solve cases for him and fails to stop hundreds from dying to a flood would be a terrible idea.
Maybe the movie should have pandered more to WHITE PRIVILEGED buttholeS, hmmm?
>Samegayging
The Batman sequel would only help the brand, not hurt it.
If the penguin show is getting made that's a good sign.
>The Batman sequel would only help the brand, not hurt it.
Matt “White Privileged buttholes” Reeves would find a way to ruin the brand.
What's "ICYMI"?
What's "LMGTFY"
https://google.gprivate.com/search.php?search?q=icymi
tfw no period piece 30s batman vs nucky thompson classic mafia types
cast some square jaw guy like ansen mount or something
the larger theme can be about uhhh the depression or something
Batman came out in 1939 so the '40s would work better. BTAS utilized the art deco style for that reason. Also, the best casting for Batman would've been Gregory Peck.
>atticus finch punching out henchmen
fund it
Bruce in year one was drawn like Peck
Frick all "Expanded Universes". How does this moron not realize all this shit is collapsing under it's own weight. Nobody's gonna watch 20 years of marvel movies to get caught up on whatever the frick is happening next. OG DC had the right idea just making self contained movies.
>wants to focus on his 10-year plan to revive the DCEU.
Another cunning plan!
>David Zaslav wants to focus on his 10-year plan to revive the DCEU
The best way to do that is to learn from the mistakes of the MCU, that now has been putting woke elements and there women can't even show their skin, Zaslav should be Superman with Alan Ritchson and Power Girl in his first DC movie, why her? Because it would show what the new DC is all about, beautiful, hot and athletic women wearing leotards, with a great script, the real Superman is everything we haven't seen since Reeve's time.
Powergirl? I'm in
>DC is all about, beautiful, hot and athletic women wearing leotards
they're sticking with the israelite abomination so they're about the exact opposite
Good
>THE BATMAN sequel reportedly on hold as David Zaslav wants to focus on his 10-year plan to revive the DCEU
Something in the way...
Damn, I liked the new batman and wanted more
I'm not a fan of snoozefests but this one I liked. I enjoyed watching an underfed clueless autist amid the rot of a big city.
Surprisingly, I hated the new Bladerunner for how boring it was although these two films seem to share the mood. Mb it was that Batman 2022 reminded me of home, or it could be the tequila I smuggled in the theater.
>Nothing personal, mattyboy
So he is cancelling only woke garbage, good to know.
reminder that the dipshits at warner brothers turned down a superman movie that would have been directed by chris mcquarrie (mi rogue nation and fallout, wrote top gun maverick, edge of extinction) and a green lantern script from him as well that would have had tom cruise as hal jordan
jesus
>no no let's do a deconstructed batman that reads like its written by a recent poly sci grad
Just bring Noland and Bale back for one last hurrah featuring and Joseph Gordon Levitt as an older Robin now
No one fricking cares about DC universe, the powerscaling doesn't make senese in there since you have planet busters alongside regular guys who know some MMA and it's all over the place, it doesn't make sense for them to ever cooperate
just make good standalone movies, DC has better single character oriented storylines anyway
no one fricking likes Robin (except for TT)
>no one fricking likes Robin (except for TT)
wtf was the point of introducing him in the bane movie
It makes about as much sense as the MCU's power scaling. Why the hell are Hawkeye and Black Widow on the same team as all the other super freaks?
I'd say you're kinda reaffirming anon's point, those Black folk didn't do shit and instead needed their own media to do anything
I'm surprised they're still going for theatres
Batman and Superman existing in the same world has always been a bad idea.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH FFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH JUST MAKE SOME FRICKING MOVIES DC YOU STUPID CORPORATE c**tS
>PENGUIN spinoff series is apparently still moving forward at HBO
In other words, Penguinbros, we won.
It's too late for capeshit anyways, the latest Thor made less money than batman. DC won the capeshit console wars in 2019, if they can't follow it up with more marvelcrushing kino they should stop
Why they cant do a proper batman in tone of animated series.
Batman isnt se7en type criminal story its little serious toned superhero shit
Nolan really cursed the genre
>Nolan really cursed the genre
Tell me you never watched the Burton films or the animated films without telling me you never watched them
>Why they cant do a proper batman in tone of animated series.
>Batman isnt se7en type criminal story its little serious toned superhero shit
This, even without the propaganda, the psuedo-realistic tone is a dead end. Gotham is supposed to be a city that doesn't exist in the real world, which is why you can have a guy dressed up like a Bat fighting a one man war on crime against supervillains that can shoot ice beams or control carnivorous plants. Leaning into realism sucks out all the soul, fun, and escapism, and it ironically makes the movie feel less believable. It's like the uncanny valley. A grounded, realistic tone only draws attention to the absurdity of the concept and makes it look more silly. Why does WB keep putting the wrong people in charge?
>Whoops, we let a flaming moron produce, write and direct a Batman film that hates the Batman character
>How do we salvage this fricking trainwreck?
>People liked the penguin character, could we do something with that?
I take this as there’s currently more pressing things Zaslav would rather pour hundreds of millions into. Once Reeves has a complete script and everything is 100% ready to go into preproduction that’s when it’ll get green lit. Likely mid next year
why y'all muricans care so much 'bout 'em supah heroed?