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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We'll just have to see how made up they are.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being stalked for a minor role on a last century nerd show

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/drA5e722MP0?t=1582
      The whole documentary gives me embarrassment for even having a minor interest in Star Trek.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The best part here is how Brent Spiner dressed up to play an archeologist getting horrifically maimed by a chupacabra in this weeks episode of the X-Files.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        trekkies baffle me. how can you be that obsessed with fricking star trek.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's nothing compared to bronies or anime fans or superwholock Tumblrinas. Trek just came first and has been in the zeitgeist longer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can ask that question about a bunch of these fanbases. The franchise I care most about is James Bond however, that doesn't mean I base my identity around it. Plenty of people are, or were, fans of Star Wars however, you had fans in the casual sense and you had FANS. You have that C.S. Lewis quote about it okay interested in 'childish' things however, he clearly wasn't talking about a bunch of grown adult going to conventions dressed-up as fictional characters and applauding & crying at teaser trailers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The counterpoint to Clive’s statement

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Depression made me binge every series, it has taken me now. I expect to be gone soon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            have some sideboob cleavage in hope you cheer up a little, anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those cringe people WERE what kept normalgays out of the fandom. Once normalgays decided that they wanted in for the hipsterish clout, it was over for Star Trek.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gatekeep harder

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I had the exact opposite progression tbh. Classic Trek was a great franchise with good stories and characters but all the worldbuilding falls apart under the mildest scrutiny, and not just the space communism part. Just enjoy the shows and don't think too hard about it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              gatekeep harder

              I actually enjoy mocking the characters and their socialist worldview more than anything.

              The one where Picard wouldn’t kill that space whale as it kept destroying entire ships was fricking hilarious. Picard is such a moron.

              Also loved that one about the genetically modified society and Geordie is all “who says whether or not I get to be born”. Stupid liberal writers accidentally wrote anti-abortion propaganda.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't imagine what it's like being so dimwitted that you can't tell the difference between anti-eugenics and anti-abortion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But you understand that support for one can be indistinguishable from support for the other and therefore, since eugenics is a reason to practice abortion. He isn't confused about which football jersey the writers wore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The differences are miniscule and as the episode is framed, virtually indistinguishable. Watch the episode again and tell me it’s not a great anti-abortion argument.

                Perhaps you’re unaware that the produces actually had to acknowledge the fact and had to write a “we’re totally okay with abortion guys” apology after the episode aired.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              this is the correct answer and anyone who interprets this as anything other than the clown makeup meme is dim

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              same.
              the said they solved war, famine, and disease but every episode is about fighting the klingons/romulans/monster-of-the-week, them chasing a scarce resource like dilithium, or being infected by Space AIDS and looking for a cure.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I always interpreted it as them solving problems on Earth, not the whole Federation. Like, there will never be a war between, say, the USA and China over resources because they both have access to a vast stockpile and exotic materials like dilithium are irrelevant to anything but starship engineering. But, for the UFP as as whole, dilithium matters because they have to maintain a massive fleet.

                Same thing with disease, nobody on Earth is dying of cancer or Alzheimers because they've had hundreds of years to find a cure, but Starfleet personnel are explorers, so they run the risk of contracting something unknown to science and there's no guarantee of survival.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We’ll have cured cancer and Alzheimer’s by the 24th century
                >But not blindness, deafness, or baldness

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if one thing is cured ever unrelated thing must also be cured

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why didn't they cure death?
                they got transporters/replicators and pattern buffers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By Voyager they had and they didn't even need to do any transporter shenanigans to achieve it: Neelix was clinically dead for hours and they resurrected him just by giving him a shot of nanomachines, I think it's episodes like that, rather then the broader picture, which really make the whole thing incoherent: from that episode forward, it shouldn't be possible for anybody to permanently die, but nobody ever brings up that fact ever again.

                >We’ll have cured cancer and Alzheimer’s by the 24th century
                >But not blindness, deafness, or baldness

                Well, Geordi's visor is supposed to be the "cure" for blindness, but it is kind of a rip-off. I'd be pretty pissed off if I went blind and the doctor's treatment plan was to bolt something directly into my skull which made me see the whole world in blurry Terminator-vision.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                IIRC Burton wanted to have Geordi’s sight restored partway into the series because the VIS0R prop was a pain in the ass to act through. But the producers denied it because that was Geordi’s trademark. It also made his character stand out for something besides Technobabble Man.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that episode where they make Geordi go look out portholes rather than just relying on ship sensors

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why did Spiner/Data get all the fun costumes throughout the show? So many episodes they let the costume department just go wild.

                Wolf 359 trutherism

                >Question what really happened on Wolf 359
                >Dishonorably discharged from Starfleet, memory erased, etc

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hehe, haven't heard that old story in a while, you do know that technology that could erase a person's memory is just an inside joke created to razz newly graduated officers, right ensign?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TNG was so weird about it's standards.
                Like why did Data wear a gold shirt if he was the science officer?

                Ib4 skeen cola

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now I’m thinking about alternate universe Data with red eyes and a red shirt. I won’t be able to sleep tonight. Get on it, ‘shoopers!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not my finest work, anon. But there you go.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shouldn’t he also have the evil goatee? I thought that was obligatory dress code for the mirror universe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Redshirt Data isn’t real, he can’t hurt you!
                >Redshirt Data:

                1 X 10^20 hours in MS Paint.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s terrifying. Well done

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                literally me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Redshirt Data isn’t real, he can’t hurt you!
                >Redshirt Data:

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Captain, might I suggest an alternate course of action? I have analyzed each factor at play in the situation, and I have concluded that a swifter resolution might be reached by shooting all of them with phasers at maximum setting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                1 X 10^20 hours in MS Paint.

                Now I'm thinking of the episode where Data is recalled to his maker's lab and he switches to autopilot mode, he takes over the Enterprise on his own in a matter of minutes and none of the crew can do shit about it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >By Voyager they had and they didn't even need to do any transporter shenanigans to achieve it: Neelix was clinically dead for hours and they resurrected him just by giving him a shot of nanomachines, I think it's episodes like that, rather then the broader picture, which really make the whole thing incoherent: from that episode forward, it shouldn't be possible for anybody to permanently die, but nobody ever brings up that fact ever again.
                maybe the writers should've written a post-death series where death is cheap.
                no one seems to have to balls to envision a humanity beyond mortality, even the Star Trek franchise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                homie the frick do they have to fight about when you can summon food out of thin air, do whatever the frick you want and not have to work?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                still worried about galactic space AIDS and shapeshifting Dominoinoids fricking up my utopia

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know about this; it's not as if TNG was some obscure show - it was regularly getting episodes watched by 10-13 million, with the finale being watched by 17 million. It seems like the normalgays kept Star Trek being what we consider Star Trek by countering the batshit insane and weirdo Trekkies that would have made it unwatchable if they went unacountered. Just look at https://youtu.be/drA5e722MP0?t=1561 who would be perfectly at home in NuTrek; I would reckon the bulk of the people in that documentary would be fans of NuTrek as they are that bizarre and either probably latched onto what is just a small part of Star Trek or more of the idea than the substance. As strange as it is, for all the superhype these sort of people have they comes across as only having a shallow genuine appreciation for it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They dove on the grenade for you. Respect them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine being a mod for a star trek convention facebook group. How embarrassing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow john de lancie sounds real nice, telling her she is only borderline stalking

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He would have starved to death were it not for people like her, he should be groveling at her feet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He just told you to stop sending so many gifts man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You see, this is why they made characters like Barclay to mock cringe Trekkies.
      Frakes, Stewart, et all probably were probably choking back vomit every time they had to shake a fat sweaty hand at a fan meetup.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      at least he had utter clarity about his fricking pronouns
      unlike the currentday ACTUAL schizos

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember him for his role in an Emergency! made for TV movie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember him for his role in an Emergency! made for TV movie.

      I remember him for his breakout role in Multiplicity

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/195658351/ get deleted?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DS9 should have resolved the Mirror Universe plotline with an invasion of the Mirror Universe Alpha Quadrant by the Mirror Universe Borg, which would have been exactly the same as the regular universe Borg. The invasion would succeed, the Mirror Universe Alpha Quadrant would be assimilated, and a few refugees would escape to our universe as background characters.

    I see three benefits to this proposal:
    >1, Mirror Jadzia could escape to the regular universe, giving Terry Farrell the reduced role she wanted while still letting us have Ezri Dax.
    >2, it would have given some emotional drama for Sisko, as he could confront the Borg again and see that there was nothing he could have done against them, he was always going to lose no matter what.
    >3, it would have allowed us to skip "The Emperor's New Cloak" and possibly skip "Resurrection" as well.

    How moronic am I?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I picture the mirror universe borg as being nice and giving everyone candy and flowers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That feels more like Mirror Dominion. Imagine a flower from Mirror Weyoun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That would be lovely, and yeah you’re probably right. On further consideration the borg would be anti-technology hippies who never left their home planet and smoke a lot of dope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I see you play sto, my condolences

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sounds ogod

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the Mirror Universe Borg, which would have been exactly the same as the regular universe Borg
      I like this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mirror Borg
      >"You should just be yourself, man. Like, resistance is totally doable!"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DS9 should have resolved the Mirror Universe plotline with an invasion of the Mirror Universe Alpha Quadrant by the Mirror Universe Borg, which would have been exactly the same as the regular universe Borg. The invasion would succeed, the Mirror Universe Alpha Quadrant would be assimilated, and a few refugees would escape to our universe as background characters.

        I see three benefits to this proposal:
        >1, Mirror Jadzia could escape to the regular universe, giving Terry Farrell the reduced role she wanted while still letting us have Ezri Dax.
        >2, it would have given some emotional drama for Sisko, as he could confront the Borg again and see that there was nothing he could have done against them, he was always going to lose no matter what.
        >3, it would have allowed us to skip "The Emperor's New Cloak" and possibly skip "Resurrection" as well.

        How moronic am I?

        In apocrypha Mirror Borg are apparently a Kingdom rather than a Collective.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mirror Universe Borg should be a Max Stirner-style union of egoists. An entire civilisation of unstoppable cyborg sociopaths with inscrutable personal agendas.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >so are you telling me that resistance is just a spook?
        >wouldn’t you like to know

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus who's that actress? Utterly gorgeous.
      t. has never watched Star Trek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Slagzia Daxxx was played by Terry Farrell.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Her nudes aren't that impressive, bit of a fridge bod.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah I'd marry her.

          Slagzia Daxxx was played by Terry Farrell.

          Thanks friend.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like her wearing clothes.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We all like women with clothes friend, just so we can take them off

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, nah, let's try more clothes.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fricking hate the throwaway line in this episode about her getting fingered by McCoy

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We all like women with clothes friend, just so we can take them off

              Nah, nah, let's try more clothes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats a huge b***h

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              4u

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bump

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is from an alternate universe, she doesn't dress like this or act like this in the main universe.

        I'm putting this disclaimer out there because you know how upset Cinemaphile gets about things like this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously, what a beauty.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I picture the mirror universe borg as being nice and giving everyone candy and flowers

      That feels more like Mirror Dominion. Imagine a flower from Mirror Weyoun.

      >Mirror Universe Borg, which would have been exactly the same as the regular universe Borg

      The Mirror Universe Borg have a King and Diamond Shaped Borg Ships.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, Mirror Universe should have been left alone past the episode in which Mirror Jennifer dies. It's like they came with an interesting premise that gives us great insight into certain details about our favorite characters, then made it a seasonal obligation instead of being this thing they did a few times and then got over with. DS9 wastes so much time and doesn't even resolve the Dominion arc properly.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Six million Bajorans?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's this from?

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        Anonymous

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  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bugs controlling Starfleet officers? This one was invented by a writer.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My one minor nitpick with TNG is that I wish we got a little more time with the crew when they're not on duty. The little glimpses of poker nights and 10 forward. Like if each episode was 50min not 45 and we got a little more interpersonal character building

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean Barclay's holodeck escapades, don't you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like DS9 is for you then.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do like DS9 for that reason but the series as a whole is a 9.0 to TNG's 9.5.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I image there's a ton of downtime when they're at warp. Especially because it's said in Chain of Command that they never do drills.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they never do drills
        Riker was just being a brat when he said. 'Well, our normal cap'n lets us do whatever we want'.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Was he? Look at Geordi b***hing about having to temporarily close down geological research.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they never do drills
            Riker was just being a brat when he said. 'Well, our normal cap'n lets us do whatever we want'.

            That episode just gets into the whole issue of whether or not Starfleet is a military. It, even with the research and exploration, de facto is however, especially by TNG, Starfleet and the franchise refuses to acknowledge that to a degree that it makes the Federation come across a naive and negligent. The Federation would be fricked if they weren't meta-protected and the likes of the Borg and Dominion didn't piss around. It's not something that destroys the setting and military science fiction or serious geopolitics is not what Star Trek is really about however, the Starfleet is not a miliary approach is moronic and the franchise often doesn't help itself.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It can be many things all at the same time. The Enterprise was primarily a ship of exploration: if the captain wanted to prioritize that over combat readiness that was his perogative

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Each ship carries around 65MT nukes. The only moronic part is they don't train ground soldiers for landing parties. They leave that to high ranking officers for some fricking reason.

                Done right, each ship would be part of a larger carrier fleet filled with all kinds of different personnel. 200 people in a single ship just gets them in trouble all the fricking time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is funny that it went from redshirt=away mission death sentence in TOS to “let’s send 75% of our senior staff” in TNG. I wonder if that was an intentional thing

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the likes of the Borg and Dominion
              Would be interesting if they gave the Federation a rival and mirror that wasn't comically evil. The Borg, Dominion and Terran Empire are envisioned as dark parrels to the Federation however, they are so extreme they provide no attempt to critic the Federation and are just there to praise it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In another thread two ideas put forward to examine the Federation were: 1) introduce a faction that doesn't obey the Prime Directive and instead actively goes about uplifting species; and the other ideas was 2) introduce a faction that is technologically superior to the Federation, has something the Federation desperately needs yet said superior faction tells the Federation they can't have it as they are too primitive for it. Both ideas would be interesting but the writers would probably squander any potential by having it be a one-off faction appearance with the faction kowtowing to Starfleet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Voyager already did idea 2

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also although it wasn't the Federation yet, the Vulcans withheld technology from Earth in Enterprise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah good observation. ENT also had an episode with a planet that ragequit a similar arrangement with the Vulcans and hated them ever since.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good point I forgot about that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Voyager kind of had that with those horny perverts that also knew how to transport things tens of thousands of light years.

                Voyager is one ship far away from the Federation. It is sort of a different idea to the Federation having to deal with a government that is on its doorstep. Which gets to the general point of either scenario: how does the Federation deal with a faction that is their equal if not superior, isn't going to go away next episode or two, isn't going to be swayed by their words?

                Also although it wasn't the Federation yet, the Vulcans withheld technology from Earth in Enterprise.

                >it wasn't the Federation
                I believe the point of the idea from the original thread was about challenging the smug attitude Starfleet, especially early-TNG, had. In ENT the humans weren't in the same situation Starfleet of TNG found itself within where they are top dogs and have Prime Directive in place. The idea with another faction withholding technology from Starfleet being as a way to examine the Prime Directive and how Starfleet responds (whether through diplomacy, intrigue, research) when the shoe is on the other foot. What happens if you give the Federation a genuine (at least potential) peer adversary that - as

                >the likes of the Borg and Dominion
                Would be interesting if they gave the Federation a rival and mirror that wasn't comically evil. The Borg, Dominion and Terran Empire are envisioned as dark parrels to the Federation however, they are so extreme they provide no attempt to critic the Federation and are just there to praise it.

                said - isn't comically evil?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >how does the Federation deal with a faction that is their equal if not superior, isn't going to go away next episode or two, isn't going to be swayed by their words?
                But why would they be at odds? Either that civ is benevolent and they are either allies or neutral, or they are an outright threat to stability in the galaxy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If you're not with me you're against me
                you sound like a separatist.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not really arguing for it one way or the other, just bringing up what anons in another thread a while back were discussing. As for conflict there would be those in the Federation that would take issue with another faction that makes it habit to go to some bronze age civilization and uplift them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Either that civ is benevolent and they are either allies or neutral
                It may have not ill will towards the Federation but, the Federation could still have disagreements and worries about it. Starfleet could disapprove of it uplifting. There could be those in the Federation that fear that Federation members and colonies may try to breakaway to ally with the other power.
                >or they are an outright threat to stability in the galaxy.
                Which is a challenge to the Federation, especially if that power is comparable or greater in strength.

                Why would the Federation interfere with a non-hostile civilization?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are they arguing the UFP would? The original idea seems more to be about another civ posing an ideological difference as to provide a way to explore the UFP itself (chiefly how it approaches less developed civs), not having the UFP interfere with another civ or the focus truly be on that civ.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So this civilization is non-hostile and the Federation doesn't interfere with them. The end?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Either that civ is benevolent and they are either allies or neutral
                It may have not ill will towards the Federation but, the Federation could still have disagreements and worries about it. Starfleet could disapprove of it uplifting. There could be those in the Federation that fear that Federation members and colonies may try to breakaway to ally with the other power.
                >or they are an outright threat to stability in the galaxy.
                Which is a challenge to the Federation, especially if that power is comparable or greater in strength.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Federation members and colonies may try to breakaway
                What are the succession rules for the Federation? I suppose this is a different question as it is practice instead of legal, how would the Federation even respond to half its territory unilaterally declaring independence?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A member or colony leaving is perhaps one thing, half the Federation leaving is another. The answer lies in why the secession attempt is even happening. Either something is happening the separatist territories that the traditional Federation ideals cannot abide thus forcing the Federation government to try to stop the attempt, or something is happening in the Federation government that the would-be separatists cannot abide and that itself probably means the Federation government is going to try to stop the separatist attempt. Both cases seem like straight-out civil war.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would the Federation force people to obey them?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think it is a likely scenario, yet if half the Federation tries to separate as the post was asking then something has clearly gone wrong as separatism is extreme and the Federation should be be able to handle grievances (and not even have serious ones at that) amongst its members. As to why then the aliens from Conspiracy are successful or something.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Conspiracy
                Did they ever do any follow up to that in Picard?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Federation does that by virtue of having laws.
                >Several federation planets go we are going to start genetic enchantment
                >gets reminded that it is outlawed by the Federation government
                >planets says frick you Earth, declares independence and starts making arguments
                It seems unbelievable that Federation will tolerate that. They will say the declaration of independence is illegal and force them back into the fold.

                If half the federation wanted to leave and join a peaceful not-federation, there would be a debate and vote. The federation won't even intervene with rape planets, much less a noble neutral not-federation. If you wanted to do the interventionist not-federation storyline you'd be force to point out its perceived flaws such as creating conflicts by trying to help lesser worlds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would Federation separatists necessarily be pro-interventionists? That is two different conversations.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Federation wouldn't see auguments as being noble. They would see such a move as an existential threat.

                Who said anything about being peaceful and helping other planets? Or for that matter even writing storylines?

                Weird cope.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Federation wouldn't see auguments as being noble. They would see such a move as an existential threat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who said anything about being peaceful and helping other planets? Or for that matter even writing storylines?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Solar flare obliterates colony of 50k leaving widespread destruction and suffering
                >I sleep
                >Colony has laws feds disagree with
                >Galaxy class is already in orbit, stop resisting

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Federation does that by virtue of having laws.
                >Several federation planets go we are going to start genetic enchantment
                >gets reminded that it is outlawed by the Federation government
                >planets says frick you Earth, declares independence and starts making arguments
                It seems unbelievable that Federation will tolerate that. They will say the declaration of independence is illegal and force them back into the fold.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Indeed, the Federation would rather sell its own people out to the Cardassians.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Voyager kind of had that with those horny perverts that also knew how to transport things tens of thousands of light years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >horny perverts
                >honhonhon what do you have against pleasure anon?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I imagine if TNG were made today there would be ‘webisodes’ of characters shooting the breeze to tide fans over during breaks. Little slice of life skits uploaded to social media.
      But then again if TNG were made today there would be leaks and spoilers floating around well before the episodes aired.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if TNG were made today
        we fricking know VERY well what if...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus Christ. How did we go from “Nobody is fat in the future!” To that monstrosity waddling around the Enterprise? I imagine everyone on Kirk and Picard’s crew would be nice to her face and then joke about her behind her back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >everyone on Kirk and Picard’s crew would be nice to her face
            almost certainly she would've gotten fired on the first day of shooting, back and fat after the hiatus

            this is what you get when Marxist women are in charge everywhere
            her fricking agent would've gotten on her case DURING the shooting pause, because he likes getting payed too

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're not kidding, the producers of TOS thought that Shatner had gotten too fat prior to season 3, they were too nervous to approach him about it, so they just asked the editors to use worst shots of him when putting together the rough cut, so that he'd get embarrassed and take care of it, it worked. Imagine a time when Captain Kirk could be considered unacceptably fat.

              Harry Kim and Tom Paris had the same problems during VOY, but the producers weren't subtle about it, supposedly one of them said: "if you two gain any more weight, we're going to have to change the name of this show to 'Pigs in Space'"'.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think I heard that for Star Trek 3 Nimoy (as director) picked out a costume for Shatner that forced Shatner to keep adequate shape.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Captain! There be whales!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus Christ. How did we go from “Nobody is fat in the future!” To that monstrosity waddling around the Enterprise? I imagine everyone on Kirk and Picard’s crew would be nice to her face and then joke about her behind her back.

          Kurtzman Trek is made by people who hate Star Trek. There are obese actresses and troons in most of their new shows.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She must clog up the toilets constantly.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No toilets. Since they use a type of transporter that transports the feces, urine, and flatulence out of their bodies. Helluva power drain though when she hits the food replicator.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Instead of Rikers dad visiting Riker on the ENT I would have liked Riker going to Alaska and then confronting him there but that would have been expensive to find a location where they could film that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vancouver could easily fake Alaska.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aren’t paramount studios in LA though?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you sure? I thought every X-Files epside looked like Alaska because it was cheap as hell to film in the woods.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I always just figured they shot it in the pacific northwest. Looks like oregon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can confirm from watching White Fang (set in Yukon, filmed in Yukon) and White Fang 2: Myth of the White Wolf (set in Yukon, filmed in Vancourver and Aspen) that they don't pass as Alaska for shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Man I thought White Fang would be about some badass chink action like yip man

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's about the dog from The Thing fighting a bear.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The bear turns out to be the dog's father

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a good movie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just use whatever set they used for Andoria in ENT.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can’t even think what a federation Alaska would even look like, I know they had some sets on VOY where they were on earth so they could just put mountains in the back ground… but it would have been awesome to see Riker confront his old town after being in starfleet his whole adult life.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think Star Trek would be more popular if the porn was of higher quality.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's shocking to me how little / poor quality Star Trek porn is. Where's all my Seven of Nine and T'Misc rule34?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    goddamnit Riker

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Riker was such a douchey character.
    I suspect Frakes though might be a good person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you will never be this thin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Enter for a prize.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She wants the Enterprise D.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why is there a frickin vampire here and who is the cute on the left?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      On paper Riker is an butthole for sure. But Frakes played him with such boyish charm they made it work.

      >everyone on Kirk and Picard’s crew would be nice to her face
      almost certainly she would've gotten fired on the first day of shooting, back and fat after the hiatus

      this is what you get when Marxist women are in charge everywhere
      her fricking agent would've gotten on her case DURING the shooting pause, because he likes getting payed too

      Aren’t actors supposed to be under contract to not change their appearance drastically while a show is ongoing? Isn’t Starlight Moriarity the center of a big controversy right now because of it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with Riker is he was conceived as a backup captain/lead if Picard did not work. He is a emergency Kirk but, sort of a pop culture idea of Kirk at that. The only real direction for Riker as a character to go was leaving the Enterprise to take his own captaincy however, the status quo would not allow that. Perhaps the main function Riker ends up fulfilling is asking questions on technical stuff so the audience can have the technobabble explained.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like the fact Frakes stuck around, the idea that the ENT-D had not only one of the best captains but also one of the best EXO’s who could have been captain by 35 (almost unheard of) made me feel like the ENT-D really was the best of the best in starfleet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My headcanon is that Ent-D got a bunch of experimental technology that was off limits to the public. Like imagine Data on another ship without Picard and Geordi to keep him in check. They would have all died in under a year. The Holodeck as well.

          Am I banned? If I'm not post your favorite Ferengi episode.

          I’m shocked there isn’t a GIF of Picard clocking that Ferengi in Captain’s Holiday with the caption ‘Silence, israelite!’.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Like imagine Data on another ship without Picard and Geordi to keep him in check
            Data had served on other ships though, he’s one of starfleets best officers, that’s why he’s in the ENT

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but also one of the best EXO’s who could have been captain by 35 (almost unheard of) made me feel like the ENT-D really was the best of the best in starfleet.
          I think TNG should have given Riker more moments where he's an effective leader. IMO He was used far too often as the audience's surrogate to ask questions or give layman suggestions for someone to warn against.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >IMO He was used far too often as the audience's surrogate to ask questions or give layman suggestions for someone to warn against.
            Every show needs exposition and if it comes from one person, the dialogue can seem more natural since you’re used to them talking a certain way. I have this feeling Riker should have been used more but when I think about it they used him quite a bit, maybe if he and Picard had more conflict or if Riker had more adventure episodes that would have been nice. He seems like such a great character but for some reason I feel he was under utilized.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah RLM hit the nail on the head with Riker when they were discussing Best if Both Worlds. He's just kinda stuck in place after that

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek that's good.
    I'm gonna post my own version of this in 12 hours.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >man gets objectified in hollywood
    "okay this is what they hire me for"
    >woman gets objectified in hollywood
    "i'm suing"

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All seasons of enterprise? Not this time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every trek got its groove in seasons 4 and 5 so if enterprise had had season 4 it would have been bomb

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AI gay looking for (you)'s
        opinion disregarded every time

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ferengi as a threat? No way.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Bashirfaggot

    Am I banned? If I'm not post your favorite Ferengi episode.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Quark trooning out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rom wakes up goes to the bar to find Quark laying naked spread eagle on a dabo table you can see his axe wound from Bashir's operation. "I'm MOOOGI NOW ROM!" Quark screams!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i am physically ill

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The VOY one where they try to hijack the ship with a Barclay hologram so they can steal Seven.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the one where it turns out they're the roswell aliens

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you don't post generals I'm considering participating in star trek threads again
    considering
    you would see a content renaissance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have never and will never post a general for anything. Subjects will be discussed when I wish to discuss them and otherwise I do not care.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they should just reveal all of Star Trek took place in a holodeck and end the whole franchise at this point.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Bashirfaggot

    if you do post generals I'm considering participating in star trek threads again
    considering
    you would see a content renaissance

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you think are some conspiracy theories that exist in-universe?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wolf 359 trutherism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only in Lower Decks because that's a sitcom. In real TNG there are no conspiracy theories because people are enlightened etc etc.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >because people are enlightened
          >enlightened
          >Illuminati
          >Luciferin

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The guy gets a bad rap. Let There Be Light and all that and you shit on the door Dasher who brought it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Federation assassinated Romulan senator Vreenak.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >an amusing notion, have you been reading too many of these so-called "cold war" spy novels doctor? the trail of plasma discharge proves without a shadow of a doubt that the senator's premature, and may I add regrettable accident was caused by a malfunctioning plasma injector of the port nacelle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Read it in his voice, good job.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Talos IV exists and the UFP is covering it up.
      >"The Enterprise Incident" was a deliberate ploy to get a Romulan cloaking device.
      >Kirk never met Leonardo Da Vinci.
      >Kirk didn't "steal" the Enterprise, it was a covert op to kill the scientists who worked on Project Genesis.
      >Kirk fired on the Klingon ambassador's ship deliberately, the "cloaked ship" was a cover story.
      >The Pegasus Incident was real.
      >Section 31 is real and was behind the end of the Dominion War.
      >Janeway used time travel to get home from the Delta Quadrant.

      More then half of these are actually true, but I'm certain that Starfleet would have covered them up from the general public.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can see there being fringe theories that Starfleet does a bunch shady and black ops stuff. The truth being they do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That you die when you use a transporter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The entire Federation is run by a secret cabal of Humans, with the entire thing being a stealth Human hegemony and indirect empire.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The President of the Federation was a Grazerite thougheverbeit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Token Ayy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >thinking the President of the Federation, an alien one at that, actually holds power

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Das rite.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Raise dem shields and shit!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Federation covered up that Roman planet incident where Kirk was expected to be a gladiator fighter.

        The crew of 1701 claimed the prime directive wasn't violated despite a previous Starfleet ship captain and his crew contaminating the planet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The entire Federation is run by a secret cabal of Humans, with the entire thing being a stealth Human hegemony and indirect empire.

      Perhaps not really a conspiracy theory though, I can see there being theories that there are unknown lost colonies in deep space. They just have to look at the example of the Romulans coming from the Vulcans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Troi is a huge bawd

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's a Troi gets fricked over by the tallest, smarmiest, most conventionally attractive guy on the alien planet episode

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >troi takes 3 nausicaan wieners while vacationing on Riza with Riker, Riker jerks off all over her face after the nausicaans are done

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vreenak was killed by Section 31/Starfleet Intelligence.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like there should people that are convinced they are stuck in a holodeck simulation.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My thirteen year old sister shaves her Borg.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stare trk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very good

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. work here is done

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >randomly starts talking about the holodeck

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come there are so many Alpha/Beta quadrant powers on comparable tech levels? Why is there not some race that is not confided to a single planet that although not Q-level yet is still thousands of years ahead of the likes of the Federation/Romulans/Cardassians/etc.?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There aren't that many really. Cardies aren't comparable to the Federation and Romulans. Even the Klingons are significantly weaker since Praxis exploded.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There were some, they just hid really well

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aren't they single planet or two based? Where is some expansive civilization the same size or bigger than the Federation?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The ones I remember either tended to be confined to a single planet or be like the Tholians: encountered once and then never really mentioned again. Off the top of my head there was also that TNG episode where the John Doe alien with amnesia charmed the pants off of everyone whilst being a renegade on the brink of physical transcendence (also never mentioned again afaih)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tholians
            Are they that exceptionally that advanced and/or old? Apart from their web technology and biology they don't seem that notable.
            >once
            They appear a few times in ENT.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I just mean that they’re generally poorly developed. There were also the dinosaurs in Voyager, those guys were kinda cool. For nerds

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why have the following aspects of Star Trek triggered people into psychotic meltdowns over the last 58 years?
    >transporters
    >armed exploration vessels
    >post-scarcity
    >moneyless economy
    >human majority
    >families on starships

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The idea of killing yourself is the most obvious discussion point about them. Certainty it really bothers some people but, I always took much of that discussion as almost obligatory mention as opposed to most actually being bothered about the theory. The other issue with transporters people can have is the inconsistency and/or plot use.
      majority
      Does this really bother that many people? As to why people want aliens then it is going to be the combination that aliens are interesting and really there isn't really a good reason in-universe that Starfleet is so human dominated. Obliviously it is the case for show budgetary, time and easier acting reasons, and perhaps the idea that audiences can relate to humans easier.
      >>post-scarcity economy
      People taking issue with it with, rightfully or wrongly, the association with communism (and the dislike people have of that) and/or it being unrealistic. To a lesser extent the way you can get characters making comments that come across as sanctimonious.
      exploration vessels
      on starships
      That's all about the whole argument on is Starfleet is a military. I feel like most of the dislike comes from the (particularly early) TNG where Starfleet and by it the franchise deny the idea that it so heavily it comes across to people as naive and deluded. Few people are calling for Starfleet to be gungho however, it is de facto a military and it is not as if Starfleet cannot wear multiple hats at once; there seems to be this belief that its only choice is exploration or (potential) war when it can do both.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A prostitute

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sex

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ho, she

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is there a more underrated trekfu?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who are the most overrated?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hmm Troi maybe? I'd also say Seven of Nine.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who are the most overrated?

            I'd also go for Troi.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jadzia. Actress is attractive but, the character is a bawd and comes with the weirdness that is the Dax symbiont.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The symbiont makes it way hotter

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pulaski. ;^)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          holy based, mean gene got to bang prime pusslaski

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        prime famke

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There was a cute one in engineering in one episode of TNG who was meant to recur but never appeared again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The one who spills hot chocolate on Picard? Good choice.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is anyone else unable to watch the first episode of Star Trek Enterprise Season 1 on Amazon Prime video with Paramount+?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The money-less economy didn't bother me until Space Mall 9 introduced the energy credits being used on earth.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They didn't. Transporter credits are only shown to be for cadets enrolled in Starfleet Academy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Quark's Bar is what bothers me, how are they paying for all those drinks? There's no way Quark is letting them drink for free.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sisko specifically said Quark's rent was free. So, I doubt he was even paying for power too. I bet Quark's Bar is unprofitable. In and of itself. He's just giving away replicated drinks. Maybe makes a little from Dabo chumps. How Quark's really makes its money is by making contact with all those dodgy freighter cap'ns who pass through. And cutting himself into all their schemes. The bar itself is a loss-leader.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cardassian forced labor camps? Orbital mining stations? And what about the subjugation of the Bajor people? If you thought it was the imaginings of a holonovelist, you're right; it never happened.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Woke Picard season 2 turns the Borg into pacifists

    Frick this clown timeline

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Resistance is racist.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Season 5 and Season 6 of Beyond Belief: Faction or Fiction starring Johnathan Frakes only currently airs in Germany

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do they really love Frakes in Germany or something? I would watch more Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction starring Jonathon Frakes in a heartbeat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Beyond Belief: Faction or Fiction starring Johnathan Frakes only currently airs in Germany
      So, is this story of over a million people being killed at Auschwitz via Zyklon B gas, with no bodies ever being discovered true…?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Klingons with smooth foreheads? No way.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've never enjoyed a show more than I enjoyed TNG. I know this term is over used, but it was so fricking Comfy and Fun I couldn't help but enjoy every minute of it. Unpopular opinion here, but the Borg eps were just whatever.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw Frakes and Robert Duncan McNeill just became TV show directors when they aged out of their good looks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roxann Dawson is more successful than both them

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Locutus?
    >..More like Non Factus

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Our Chief of Engineering turning into a shadow? It never happened.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ids haabbenin!

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warp 10? Pure fiction.

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