>hmmm, today I will write a scathing satirical critique of militarism >now who do I make the enemy which my totalitarian human state will unfairly villify to justify their warmongering ways? >ooh, I know, grotesque gigantic man-eating insects! >wait, wtf? why are audiences cheering for the humans??? YOU'RE MISSING THE HECKIN POINT!
>Enemies of our nation are depicted as grotesque gigantic man-eating insects
Yes because it's a fricking satire. It's not satirical if you just make a movie about fascists dropping barrel bombs on puppy orphanages.
>Yes because it's a fricking satire
But those are the real bugs as depicted in-universe. It's not like the news casts depict them like that but then when they actually go to war they're just normal civilized aliens.
>Yes, the film is a satire
Yes, there was an attempt to be satirical.
You can see evidence of the attempted satire, but that is not the same as satire.
This is satire. it's an exaggeration of stuff that actually happens.
The best you could say is that the bugs are a satire of sci fi monsters, but that falls flats because we have movies like Alien and The Thing. The bugs fall right in line with the genre.
[...] >fascists dropping barrel bombs on puppy orphanages
yeah that could be satire. it depends on what motivation you give the fascists for doing that.
Depicting evil people doing blatantly evil things is not satirical. How is that a satire? It's only a satire if it includes satirical elements like the typical military dehumanization propaganda being literally true.
This is satire. it's an exaggeration of stuff that actually happens.
The best you could say is that the bugs are a satire of sci fi monsters, but that falls flats because we have movies like Alien and The Thing. The bugs fall right in line with the genre.
>Enemies of our nation are depicted as grotesque gigantic man-eating insects
Yes because it's a fricking satire. It's not satirical if you just make a movie about fascists dropping barrel bombs on puppy orphanages.
>fascists dropping barrel bombs on puppy orphanages
yeah that could be satire. it depends on what motivation you give the fascists for doing that.
Anon, this is embarrassingly stupid even in an anonymous setting.
The point is that having a fascist imperialist regime (a real one, not the fake kind people with brain rot screech about when a violent criminal is shot dead by the cops) dominate ANY group unprovoked (as the movie implies the bugs didn't strike first and Buenos Aires was an inside job) is an evil thing, especially when the media is used to demonize the weaker and uglier group.
If humanity found another galaxy populated by beautiful Tolkien-esque elf people, they probably wouldn't orchestrate a war with them because it would be harder to convince the populace they were soulless ugly creatures that needed to be eradicated. It's a reference to the classic West vs. East conflict. It has historically been easy to depict people from eastern countries as subhumans because their ways are strange and brutal to us, and I'm sure that road goes both ways. It's satirizing the faux-righteousness of western countries and their continued interference in places like the middle east under false humanitarian or security pretenses. It couldn't be more obvious.
The book is all time. This show at least appreciates that. I also somewhat like that it's unfinished, finishing on a bittersweet note if you know the book. It's a 10.
other way around.
the asteroid was a false flag but the bugs intentions were always to invade. That' what the plot is, hitting em fast and hard in breeding season.
Buenos Aires was an "acceptable loss" e.g Pearl Harbor to get the wheel of hate spinning so humanity doesn't wind up bumrushed by space bugs
Do you really think it's at all viable or even possible for a bunch of zerglings to launch an asteroid over interstellar distances with such accuracy that it nails a particular city on a planet on the other side of the galaxy, one that presumably has orbital defences? There's like a million failure points here.
>Do you really think it's at all viable or even possible for a bunch of zerglings to launch an asteroid over interstellar distances with such accuracy that it nails a particular city on a planet on the other side of the galaxy, one that presumably has orbital defences?
Just as plausible as humans inventing warp drive for FTL
You're talking about the probability of something irl vs the probability of something in a super technologically advanced fictional earth setting. In your desperation to die on that hill, you've somehow managed to confuse yourself completely.
so you give humans a pass to do something impossible but not the bugs? Sounds like you got the ole' cherry picker out for this one.
It's very simple, if humans have FTL then it's easy enough to imagine there are worm holes that the bugs and fling asteroids through. maybe they got some kind of bug to help out with it?
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I just gotta laugh people who think there's nothing out of the ordinary about human accomplishments.
Do you really think it's at all viable or even possible for a bunch of zerglings to launch an asteroid over interstellar distances with such accuracy that it nails a particular city on a planet on the other side of the galaxy, one that presumably has orbital defences? There's like a million failure points here.
>zerglings
You're using the Zerg as your example? A species that can in fact travel across interstellar space without issue?
Yes, I absolutely believe with all my heart that a bunch of zerglings could launch an asteroid to hit earth.
Nothing presumably about it. The viewer is shown the orbital guns during one of those news segments, destroying an asteroid even. Truth be told, it doesn't matter whether the bugs launched it or not. The Feds let it hit to bolster waning support for the war.
The human empires wasn't portrayed as anywhere big enough to warrant them pushing into the other side of the entire GALAXY. Not sure what they were doing over there. I'm sure there were plenty of habitable worlds in between.
great book. love when those characters who manage to survive come back home and find that everyone is gay or a clone and the home they were fighting for is now almost unrecognizable to them.
imagine going to vietnam in the early sixties, America is the idyllic boomer eden built by the ww2 war chest and a generation of people with actual ambition, and coming home right as the hippies go apeshit in the late sixties and ruin everything permanently.
>muh satire >muh false flags >muh
literal reddit takes.
props to based Verhoven for making his movie about how great the 1930's were in Germany and getting those dumbshit israeli producers to finance it.
The film bugs don't have interstellar travel, both planet P and Klendathu are the the same system, we never see anywhere outside of this system so at best the bugs have spread to 2 planets in the same system, they could never hit Earth on the other side of the galaxy, they are mindless insects being used as an excuse for a war, the brain bug is fake and Starship Troopers is an in universe propaganda recruitment film
You should only hold a government position if you have served in the military or the peace corps.
>hmmm, today I will write a scathing satirical critique of militarism
>now who do I make the enemy which my totalitarian human state will unfairly villify to justify their warmongering ways?
>ooh, I know, grotesque gigantic man-eating insects!
>wait, wtf? why are audiences cheering for the humans??? YOU'RE MISSING THE HECKIN POINT!
>Enemies of our nation are depicted as grotesque gigantic man-eating insects
Yes because it's a fricking satire. It's not satirical if you just make a movie about fascists dropping barrel bombs on puppy orphanages.
>Yes because it's a fricking satire
But those are the real bugs as depicted in-universe. It's not like the news casts depict them like that but then when they actually go to war they're just normal civilized aliens.
>But those are the real bugs as depicted in-universe.
Yes, the film is a satire.
>Yes, the film is a satire
Yes, there was an attempt to be satirical.
You can see evidence of the attempted satire, but that is not the same as satire.
Depicting evil people doing blatantly evil things is not satirical. How is that a satire? It's only a satire if it includes satirical elements like the typical military dehumanization propaganda being literally true.
This is satire. it's an exaggeration of stuff that actually happens.
The best you could say is that the bugs are a satire of sci fi monsters, but that falls flats because we have movies like Alien and The Thing. The bugs fall right in line with the genre.
>fascists dropping barrel bombs on puppy orphanages
yeah that could be satire. it depends on what motivation you give the fascists for doing that.
even if you still classify that as satire, that still means it completely falls flat as a critique
Anon, this is embarrassingly stupid even in an anonymous setting.
The point is that having a fascist imperialist regime (a real one, not the fake kind people with brain rot screech about when a violent criminal is shot dead by the cops) dominate ANY group unprovoked (as the movie implies the bugs didn't strike first and Buenos Aires was an inside job) is an evil thing, especially when the media is used to demonize the weaker and uglier group.
If humanity found another galaxy populated by beautiful Tolkien-esque elf people, they probably wouldn't orchestrate a war with them because it would be harder to convince the populace they were soulless ugly creatures that needed to be eradicated. It's a reference to the classic West vs. East conflict. It has historically been easy to depict people from eastern countries as subhumans because their ways are strange and brutal to us, and I'm sure that road goes both ways. It's satirizing the faux-righteousness of western countries and their continued interference in places like the middle east under false humanitarian or security pretenses. It couldn't be more obvious.
you’re real fricking stupid, this is bordering on bigfoot-defenders-tier rationalizing
he's right. There's a reason nothing is shown from the Bugs pov. what you know about the bugs is directly fed to you by the world government.
>hideous insectoids incompatible with human life ackshully deserve respect and to be treated as equals!
why?
>He actually thinks the society in Starship Troopers is fascist
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The bugs needed to be exterminated. That's what morons fail to realize. Who cares who started the war, it's fumigation time
Go die for israelitekraine
What?
I only care about the real Starship Troopers adaptation.
This. My only gripe is that there wasn’t an English dub version. I’ve already read the book several times.
The book is all time. This show at least appreciates that. I also somewhat like that it's unfinished, finishing on a bittersweet note if you know the book. It's a 10.
other way around.
the asteroid was a false flag but the bugs intentions were always to invade. That' what the plot is, hitting em fast and hard in breeding season.
Buenos Aires was an "acceptable loss" e.g Pearl Harbor to get the wheel of hate spinning so humanity doesn't wind up bumrushed by space bugs
>the asteroid was a false flag
I believe that you believe that
Do you really think it's at all viable or even possible for a bunch of zerglings to launch an asteroid over interstellar distances with such accuracy that it nails a particular city on a planet on the other side of the galaxy, one that presumably has orbital defences? There's like a million failure points here.
>Do you really think it's at all viable or even possible for a bunch of zerglings to launch an asteroid over interstellar distances with such accuracy that it nails a particular city on a planet on the other side of the galaxy, one that presumably has orbital defences?
Just as plausible as humans inventing warp drive for FTL
You're talking about the probability of something irl vs the probability of something in a super technologically advanced fictional earth setting. In your desperation to die on that hill, you've somehow managed to confuse yourself completely.
so you give humans a pass to do something impossible but not the bugs? Sounds like you got the ole' cherry picker out for this one.
It's very simple, if humans have FTL then it's easy enough to imagine there are worm holes that the bugs and fling asteroids through. maybe they got some kind of bug to help out with it?
I just gotta laugh people who think there's nothing out of the ordinary about human accomplishments.
lmao no
moron
>zerglings
You're using the Zerg as your example? A species that can in fact travel across interstellar space without issue?
Yes, I absolutely believe with all my heart that a bunch of zerglings could launch an asteroid to hit earth.
The Bugs had spaceships in the books. They didn't bombard Earth with asteroids.
They are capable of interstellar travel and took out Zegema
>presumably
Nothing presumably about it. The viewer is shown the orbital guns during one of those news segments, destroying an asteroid even. Truth be told, it doesn't matter whether the bugs launched it or not. The Feds let it hit to bolster waning support for the war.
>orbital guns
those orbital guns were built after Buenos Aries. Hence why they say
>planetary defenses are better than ever
That clip happens before the asteroid hits.
It's shown at the beginning of the movie, which takes place during the invasion of Klendaathu, after the attack.
The human empires wasn't portrayed as anywhere big enough to warrant them pushing into the other side of the entire GALAXY. Not sure what they were doing over there. I'm sure there were plenty of habitable worlds in between.
Wasn't it Mormon morons on some mission trip?
You might be thinking of The Expanse
I think he's right. Mormons set up camp in some planet and get massacred by bugs.
All worlds must be conquered. You'd knew if you were white
You're really overestimating how many planets are habitable at all. In our entire galaxy there's probably only like five of them in total.
>In our entire galaxy there's probably only like five of them in total.
ask me how i know you are a carbon based lifeform
*mogs*
>twitter filename
>shilling literal who
Go back.
>too stupid to read
Eat shit, my man!
great book. love when those characters who manage to survive come back home and find that everyone is gay or a clone and the home they were fighting for is now almost unrecognizable to them.
imagine going to vietnam in the early sixties, America is the idyllic boomer eden built by the ww2 war chest and a generation of people with actual ambition, and coming home right as the hippies go apeshit in the late sixties and ruin everything permanently.
>IT'S AN UGLY PLANET. A BUG PLANET. BUT WE CAN TURN IT AROUND, TONIGHT ON HGTV.
I'm from Buenos Aires and I agree with this take. Now more than ever we must show compassion and forgiveness.
Buenos Aires was an inside job no matter how much you cope and seethe.
>muh satire
>muh false flags
>muh
literal reddit takes.
props to based Verhoven for making his movie about how great the 1930's were in Germany and getting those dumbshit israeli producers to finance it.
Then the bugs should've accepted human refugees. They're racists and deserve to die
It's satire. The film was making fun of you RWNJs but your to stupid to see it.
The film bugs don't have interstellar travel, both planet P and Klendathu are the the same system, we never see anywhere outside of this system so at best the bugs have spread to 2 planets in the same system, they could never hit Earth on the other side of the galaxy, they are mindless insects being used as an excuse for a war, the brain bug is fake and Starship Troopers is an in universe propaganda recruitment film