Good, I want to be surprised. The only way to make a good modern Superman flick in a modern age is to go full Silver Age silly. make people excited to see cape shit to see new things.
characters who don't do anything
This. I imagine it is a giant catastrophe and we see a bunch of heroes doing damage control and rescuing civilians while Superman takes on the big guns. Not saying they won't frick it up, but I can see where they are coming from having a bunch of cameos to show how vast the DCU is and how it is already established to have a whole league of heroes and then some.
>just keep throwing all the heroes into the next big film!
It didn't work in the first DCEU, and it didn't work for Shazam or Black Adam. Other than the Suicide Squad, why do they think this time will be different?
>David Corenswet as Clark Kent / Kal-El / Superman. >Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, an intrepid reporter for the Daily Planet newspaper. >Skyler Gisondo as Jimmy Olsen, a young photographer for the Daily Planet newspaper. >Wendell Pierce as Perry White, the intimidating editor-in-chief of the Daily Planet newspaper. >Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor, a corrupt magnate and mad scientist and Superman’s nemesis. >Sara Sampaio as Eve Teschmacher, Luthor’s alluring assistant. >Terence Rosemore as Otis, Luthor’s bumbling enforcer. >Edi Gathegi as Michael Holt / Mister Terrific, a tech vigilante. >María Gabriela de Faría as Angela Spica / Engineer, a cyborg operative. >Isabella Merced as Kendra Saunders / Hawkgirl, a winged warrior. >Anthony Carrigan as Rex Mason / Metamorpho, a shapeshifting adventurer. >Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern / Guy Gardner, an intergalactic officer. >Milly Alwiener as Kara Zor-El / Supergirl, a Kryptonian superhero and Superman’s cousin. >Sean Gunn as Maxwell Lord, an unscrupulous entrepreneur. >Pruitt Taylor Vince as Jonathan Kent, Superman’s adoptive father. >Neva Howell as Martha Kent, Superman’s adoptive mother. >Mikaela Hoover as cat Grant, a seductive gossip columnist for the Daily Planet newspaper. >Beck Bennett as Steve Lombard, a boorish sports reporter for the Daily Planet newspaper. >Christopher McDonald as Ron Troupe, a veteran investigative journalist for the Daily Planet newspaper.
>Pruitt Taylor Vince as Jonathan Kent, Superman’s adoptive father.
What the frick? Such a weird choice. I always associate him with playing psychos/mental invalids and being a huge fatass.
This guy gets it. Go slow. Start with just baby Superman alone in the pod. Second film maybe introduce Kansas. Close out the trilogy with Metropolis, and that's even too fast. A few years down the road consider another trilogy. First film he starts work at the Planet lets say, by the end maybe he gets a suit. Second film introduce Lex Luther if you want to rush things. Close out the trilogy with his saving Lois from plane and revealing himself to public. Why is this so hard?
Anon, the capeshit genre is undergoing recession at the moment. Trying to build up another universe from the ground up just like MCU during its first stages is no longer an option, not when they're doing shit like the multiverse and space right now.
SOME characters from the Creature Commandos will appear.
Gunn said the other super heroes are comparable to the Daily Planet staff, aka his super colleagues.
they're running way long on the shoot and probably just adding random shit because the studio wants it at this point
it's fricked this movie almost certainly but maybe the next reboot will work out because maybe WB will learn a lesson from this, either way Gunn is either getting an early out from a nightmare working scenario or he'll end up with more control on the next one
Really want Superman Legacy to be good, mostly because I just want a good Superman for Pete’s sake. But, man, all these extra characters just scream “we’re setting up several movies/shows!” It’d be like watching Iron Man and instead of just Nick Fury, they have Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow and Hulk at the same time.
You all really have this weird fixation with stock prices as some goal post. I suppose that's why Game Stop and AMC are such successful businesses today, because their STONKS are STRONG, amirite?
WBD has a lot of debt, so does Disney and so do a lot of these other companies. That's something suits on Wall Street don't like and that depresses the stock market.
However, cash flow and cash on hand is a better indicator of the strength of a company. AMC survived because it was successful at negotiating some of its debt without having to go into bankruptcy and without needing to sell it's ass like Alamo Drafthouse just did.
Game Stock on the other hand, is a dead company walking. The people who have lost money on this stock will continue to lose money and they will end up like Red Lobster franchisees or like RL employees and the 99 Cent Only employees who got shit canned with little notice. Only the owners of the real estate of RL made out like bandits whereas the owners of the real estate that 99 Cents Only sit on will not.
But WBD isn't in those kinds of business, so what they need is cash flow and cash on hand. They have both.
That's not to say they don't need to pay down debt. But they are doing that. AT&T saddled Discovery with the debt, which is why you see that huge increase in PICREL and that DEBT INCREASE explain the current/recent stock price drops.
a random character passing by does not bloat a movie. The way marvel stops the film for their cameos is different for how comics should have characters passing by
>Cut out all the goofy shit from the Superman mythos to "modernize" him >Have to bring in all these other characters so audience don't get bored.
Everyone thinks Superman is too goofy and overpowered, I think he's not goofy or overpowered enough. All the cool stuff about Superman is the weird stuff that modern adaptations leave out. Superman should have an arctic base full of confiscated alien tech as well as a zoo full of extraterrestrial critters. He should a superpowered dog, he should have a miniature city in a bottle, Superman robots to fill in for him/throw suspicion off Clark Kent. He should have traveled to the future as a teen to fight with the Legion of Superheroes, he should have close friends who see both Clark and Superman everyday but still aren't sure they're the same person. His ex-girlfriend is a telepathic mermaid. That's the good shit. You take all that away and Superman is just a strong guy who flies and there's a million of them.
I get that any bit of news has to be met with threads pre-emptively shitting on it, but this is one of the gayest angles to take. World building is good, a vast lived in DC Universe. You don't need a decade to set it up. It's there, it exists, let's, along the course of our journey, meet some of the many heros that populate it. Get a grip.
The issue isn't setting up or not setting up, the issue is precedent. The precedent for DC is stuffing things in and not handling them well. The worst MCU movies coincidentally also suffered from stuffing too many characters in with no decent set up. And while people admonish the origin story it is also there for a purpose.
We don't need 27 side characters in a Superman origin movie.
>b-but it's not an o-
Yeah yeah I know what that homosexual said, but considering the plot is about Superman learning and trying to balance his Kryptonian heritage with his human unbringing, it's basically an origin story with extra steps like The Batman.
I don't have it out for Gunn and neither am I calling every small thing a frick up. The vast majority of people complaining are just following the perception and narrative that superhero bubble has burst because DC shit the bed multiple times and Marvel caught diarrhea. It is people with no real good expectations for this stuff anymore hearing things that don't change that perception. That's all. I for one know the plebians are fickle and for as many people who claim the bubble has burst and dance with glee there is just as many lighting candles in secret silent prayer for it to return and even a hint of "it's slightly good" will be them declaring superheroes are back baby.
If Gunn isn't being forced to do this by WB this movie is now confirmed to either make or break DC, it will either break 2 billion or it will fail so bad they instantly sell DC to Disney a month after it bombs.
When they say "characters appearing in SUPERMAN", I think they just mean Rick Flag Sr., which makes sense if they're making him the "lead military guy" of the DCU.
All these fricking multiverse films gotta cram everything in so they can have their avengers moment. Fricker, no one cares about all these fricking characters in your film unless we get time to know them!
>waller doesn't run the creature commando team >she just tasks satellites to track various superheroes waiting for them to frick up >also runs a side business selling superhero snuff porn to fund her operations
Seems right up Gunn's alley.
Real talk, why does the government even bother with Waller and her team? Every villain that served goes back to being a badguy again. Ticking time bombs.
Outside the IP money bankers. She actually has a pretty good record of squeezing work out of them before blowing their brains out. Not much you can do against Harley and by extension her coworkers.
Frick, the Middle east plot is real. I knew Gunn was lying about that rumor being false. Tom King is such a hack, no one wants to see Superman rehashing the war on terror. Just let him fight fricking Brainiac or Mongul or something!
>look at how Nathan Fillion was used in GOTG 3 >look at how Nathan Fillion was used in The Suicide Squad >shriek hysterically because Nathan Fillion as cast in a supporting role (as friggin Guy Gardner) for the 3rd time in capeshit, and you're paranoid that this time it's going to be some bloated thing that takes away from the DCU
These people are playing supporting characters. We're talking no more than 15 minutes-ish tops. Gunn is inspired by the JLI era, and the JLU cartoon, and New Frontier. He wants to tell a story of Superman rising to become the "good guy" of Earth. Other super heroes will exist to serve as window dressing and present philosophical different approaches to being a hero-- that will serve to make Superman stand out.
We've already seen a Superman origin story. People know it. It's been told for 45 fricking years in movies. People are tired of Superman being in boring movies. People just want a good fun Justice League/Superfriends movie.
You people have no media literacy.
>inb4 mongloid "shill" or "pedo" shitposts from snyder-tists and the pedo obsessed
forgot to add, he's casting the actors he likes as these B list supporting superhero characters because the plan is to sprinkle them in as supporting characters throughout the first chapter of his DC movie universe.
You act like it takes 6 movies of solo superman learning to become the first metahuman before we're allowed to see Martian Manhunter.
yeah, all these other heroes are very minor, specially compared to Supes.
Now, if we were talking about Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and other major heroes, i would understand the concern.
Yeah these people don't understand that *this* is the only way you'll ever get characters like Guy and Hawkgirl and Metamorpho in a movie.
There's too many characters and studios + casuals ALWAYS ONLY want the big guns. That's how it works in floppies too. The Bi listers and C listers aren't deep enough to carry their own franchises. They have always existed as window dressing.
Gunn knows we're past the point of Nolan-inzation. It's been 22 years since Smallville which was on the air for several years. 30 years since Lois and Clark. 50 years since the start of FOUR Christopher Reeve movies. 50 years since the start of several years of Saturday morning cartoons. George Reeves was on TV 70 years ago. This is the 3rd Superman movie in the last 10 years. There is a second Lois and Clark show on TV right now.
People know Superman. Can we just get to the fun part already? The one where he's having adventures and inspiring a whole lineup of superheroes? Because Gunn's premise so far sounds like the closest attempt to that.
Or do we need to see him brooding as a teen in kansas for 90 minutes? Do we need a movie and a half to set up Zod again?
this is what Gunn is doing.
you know what other movies have done this?
>Tim Burton's Batman, Blade, Deadpool, Buckaroo Banzai, Big Trouble in Little China, Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy, Billy Zane's The Phantom,RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE
>You people have no media literacy
That has nothing to do with parsing out casting news you massive moron. You sound like some fat autistic who went to community college, took a script writing class and imagines he’s suddenly “in the know”.
>inb4 mongloid "shill" or "pedo" shitposts from snyder-tists and the pedo obsessed
Imagine defending a pedo. Imagine wanting a pedo to succeed...well I guess you don't have to imagine it.
>These people are playing supporting characters. We're talking no more than 15 minutes-ish tops.
You don't know that.
But even if it's the case, it's a cameo from a show most people will never see, so it's just going to discourage the audience who feel that they're missing out but don't want to bother with the filler stories. Not to mention that the movie was already bloated with characters before they crammed in Creature Commandos.
This isn't Suicide Squad or Guardians of the Galaxy, it's a solo movie, and it's supposed to be the first. But somehow it stars more characters than the Justice League and Avengers combined, and those movies had time to build up to that.
Everything we've seen from Gunn so far has been awful. The actors, the costume, and now more characters in a movie that already had too many characters.
God this movie will be dumb
Good, I want to be surprised. The only way to make a good modern Superman flick in a modern age is to go full Silver Age silly. make people excited to see cape shit to see new things.
stop calling it ‘capeshit’. that word was coined by furries.
explain
Yes
I'd like to imagine it's just one big shitpost movie and it's nonstop appearances of DC characters every other scene
>Background characters who don't do anything
Gunn only knows how to make a quirky crew of misfits movie, that's why its so stacked
characters who don't do anything
This. I imagine it is a giant catastrophe and we see a bunch of heroes doing damage control and rescuing civilians while Superman takes on the big guns. Not saying they won't frick it up, but I can see where they are coming from having a bunch of cameos to show how vast the DCU is and how it is already established to have a whole league of heroes and then some.
With any kind of luck it will be as post-credit cameos, like how Gunn threw in the original Guardians of The Galaxy in the second film.
>who should appear in a post credits scene in a Superman movie? the creature commandos of course
still dumb as hell
What's the appearance count?
CC
The Authority
Supergirl
Green Lantern
Mister Terrific
Hawkgirl
Metamorpho
I will watch all the Metamorpho scenes as Webm on Cinemaphile
thats the best I can do
I will goon to all the Hawkgirl scenes as Webm on Cinemaphile
thats the best I can do
Why do they keep casting these these scrawny twigs as Mr Terrific?
Nobody reads the bio that he is essentially captain america in physical build and just stop at the black T, smarts, and maybe invisibility power.
he bulked up for the role
Well shit. Good for him
It must suck to have to frick your hormone system forever with gear as part of the job description.
>just keep throwing all the heroes into the next big film!
It didn't work in the first DCEU, and it didn't work for Shazam or Black Adam. Other than the Suicide Squad, why do they think this time will be different?
>Other than the Suicide Squad, why do they think this time will be different?
You mean THE Suicide Squad? Because Gunn directed that one as well.
Here's the full cast.
>David Corenswet as Clark Kent / Kal-El / Superman.
>Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, an intrepid reporter for the Daily Planet newspaper.
>Skyler Gisondo as Jimmy Olsen, a young photographer for the Daily Planet newspaper.
>Wendell Pierce as Perry White, the intimidating editor-in-chief of the Daily Planet newspaper.
>Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor, a corrupt magnate and mad scientist and Superman’s nemesis.
>Sara Sampaio as Eve Teschmacher, Luthor’s alluring assistant.
>Terence Rosemore as Otis, Luthor’s bumbling enforcer.
>Edi Gathegi as Michael Holt / Mister Terrific, a tech vigilante.
>María Gabriela de Faría as Angela Spica / Engineer, a cyborg operative.
>Isabella Merced as Kendra Saunders / Hawkgirl, a winged warrior.
>Anthony Carrigan as Rex Mason / Metamorpho, a shapeshifting adventurer.
>Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern / Guy Gardner, an intergalactic officer.
>Milly Alwiener as Kara Zor-El / Supergirl, a Kryptonian superhero and Superman’s cousin.
>Sean Gunn as Maxwell Lord, an unscrupulous entrepreneur.
>Pruitt Taylor Vince as Jonathan Kent, Superman’s adoptive father.
>Neva Howell as Martha Kent, Superman’s adoptive mother.
>Mikaela Hoover as cat Grant, a seductive gossip columnist for the Daily Planet newspaper.
>Beck Bennett as Steve Lombard, a boorish sports reporter for the Daily Planet newspaper.
>Christopher McDonald as Ron Troupe, a veteran investigative journalist for the Daily Planet newspaper.
And now the Creature Commandos as well.
>Pruitt Taylor Vince as Jonathan Kent, Superman’s adoptive father.
What the frick? Such a weird choice. I always associate him with playing psychos/mental invalids and being a huge fatass.
That's what Gunn thinks of the midwest. He'll be a big dumb loveable oaf to correct on Snyder's Pa Kent.
>That's what Gunn thinks of the midwest.
This kind of parasocial thinking is good and healthy
>no Mercy
It's so fricking over
Ex amazon origin Mercy seems like such an easy fit to slot in Lex. Why they won't do it is beyond reason.
Because it's unnecessary and was invented for the comics after her debut in the cartoon.
Wow, ts almost like they;re rushing this cinematiic universe.
Again.
This guy gets it. Go slow. Start with just baby Superman alone in the pod. Second film maybe introduce Kansas. Close out the trilogy with Metropolis, and that's even too fast. A few years down the road consider another trilogy. First film he starts work at the Planet lets say, by the end maybe he gets a suit. Second film introduce Lex Luther if you want to rush things. Close out the trilogy with his saving Lois from plane and revealing himself to public. Why is this so hard?
Are you saying the entire first movie is him as a baby rocketing through space?
Well yeah, Krypton needs its own show to cover.
Anon, the capeshit genre is undergoing recession at the moment. Trying to build up another universe from the ground up just like MCU during its first stages is no longer an option, not when they're doing shit like the multiverse and space right now.
SOME characters from the Creature Commandos will appear.
Gunn said the other super heroes are comparable to the Daily Planet staff, aka his super colleagues.
what is this movie even about
It'll be about 2 hours and 20 minutes.
That's not long enough for all this shit to be in it.
nobody knows any more
they're running way long on the shoot and probably just adding random shit because the studio wants it at this point
it's fricked this movie almost certainly but maybe the next reboot will work out because maybe WB will learn a lesson from this, either way Gunn is either getting an early out from a nightmare working scenario or he'll end up with more control on the next one
probably fricked it tho
Really want Superman Legacy to be good, mostly because I just want a good Superman for Pete’s sake. But, man, all these extra characters just scream “we’re setting up several movies/shows!” It’d be like watching Iron Man and instead of just Nick Fury, they have Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow and Hulk at the same time.
At this point Zaslav HAS to pull an MCU 2: Electric Boogaloo out of his ass, as WBD stock is fading fast.
You all really have this weird fixation with stock prices as some goal post. I suppose that's why Game Stop and AMC are such successful businesses today, because their STONKS are STRONG, amirite?
WBD has a lot of debt, so does Disney and so do a lot of these other companies. That's something suits on Wall Street don't like and that depresses the stock market.
However, cash flow and cash on hand is a better indicator of the strength of a company. AMC survived because it was successful at negotiating some of its debt without having to go into bankruptcy and without needing to sell it's ass like Alamo Drafthouse just did.
Game Stock on the other hand, is a dead company walking. The people who have lost money on this stock will continue to lose money and they will end up like Red Lobster franchisees or like RL employees and the 99 Cent Only employees who got shit canned with little notice. Only the owners of the real estate of RL made out like bandits whereas the owners of the real estate that 99 Cents Only sit on will not.
But WBD isn't in those kinds of business, so what they need is cash flow and cash on hand. They have both.
That's not to say they don't need to pay down debt. But they are doing that. AT&T saddled Discovery with the debt, which is why you see that huge increase in PICREL and that DEBT INCREASE explain the current/recent stock price drops.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/WBD/warner-bros-discovery/long-term-debt
This poster still gets a laugh out of me. "Oh the city is under attack? Alright, give me a minute whilst I take my sweet time putting my costume on"
>Every day the same shit
Here's the thing.....
How the frick can you FRICK UP a concept like the Creature Commandos!?
It writes itself!!!
They already found a way by cramming them into a setting that they completely clash with.
no no it'll be fine, you'll see all your favorites like in Space Jam 2
a random character passing by does not bloat a movie. The way marvel stops the film for their cameos is different for how comics should have characters passing by
>Cut out all the goofy shit from the Superman mythos to "modernize" him
>Have to bring in all these other characters so audience don't get bored.
Everyone thinks Superman is too goofy and overpowered, I think he's not goofy or overpowered enough. All the cool stuff about Superman is the weird stuff that modern adaptations leave out. Superman should have an arctic base full of confiscated alien tech as well as a zoo full of extraterrestrial critters. He should a superpowered dog, he should have a miniature city in a bottle, Superman robots to fill in for him/throw suspicion off Clark Kent. He should have traveled to the future as a teen to fight with the Legion of Superheroes, he should have close friends who see both Clark and Superman everyday but still aren't sure they're the same person. His ex-girlfriend is a telepathic mermaid. That's the good shit. You take all that away and Superman is just a strong guy who flies and there's a million of them.
You get it.
Every good Superman story for the past 40 years has had to try and repair the damage Crisis on Infinite Earths did to the character.
I get that any bit of news has to be met with threads pre-emptively shitting on it, but this is one of the gayest angles to take. World building is good, a vast lived in DC Universe. You don't need a decade to set it up. It's there, it exists, let's, along the course of our journey, meet some of the many heros that populate it. Get a grip.
The issue isn't setting up or not setting up, the issue is precedent. The precedent for DC is stuffing things in and not handling them well. The worst MCU movies coincidentally also suffered from stuffing too many characters in with no decent set up. And while people admonish the origin story it is also there for a purpose.
But EVERYONE knows Superman's origin. And Gunn always include a ton of characters in his CBMs.
You missed the point. I was not talking specifically about superman then. I was talking more general about set up in regards to characters stuffed in.
>And Gunn always include a ton of characters in his CBMs
Suicide squad was full of disposable characters so this doesn't really tell us much anyway.
Guardians certainly handled some characters far better than others. Drax for instance never really had a moment to shine. There is winners and losers.
As long as Superman himself and his supporting cast/antagonists are treated well, i don't mind it. Side characters are side characters.
We don't need 27 side characters in a Superman origin movie.
>b-but it's not an o-
Yeah yeah I know what that homosexual said, but considering the plot is about Superman learning and trying to balance his Kryptonian heritage with his human unbringing, it's basically an origin story with extra steps like The Batman.
No, there is no issue. It's one or two anons that have it out for Gunn that have to position every crumb of news or development as some frickup.
I don't have it out for Gunn and neither am I calling every small thing a frick up. The vast majority of people complaining are just following the perception and narrative that superhero bubble has burst because DC shit the bed multiple times and Marvel caught diarrhea. It is people with no real good expectations for this stuff anymore hearing things that don't change that perception. That's all. I for one know the plebians are fickle and for as many people who claim the bubble has burst and dance with glee there is just as many lighting candles in secret silent prayer for it to return and even a hint of "it's slightly good" will be them declaring superheroes are back baby.
So yeah, there are issues.
>ermm, so yeah...
Frick you too shill
If Gunn isn't being forced to do this by WB this movie is now confirmed to either make or break DC, it will either break 2 billion or it will fail so bad they instantly sell DC to Disney a month after it bombs.
No one will appear in the theater though.
I just see no reality where this does well. At best it'll be fine, at worst I can't see it pushing Snyder off the bottom spot
When they say "characters appearing in SUPERMAN", I think they just mean Rick Flag Sr., which makes sense if they're making him the "lead military guy" of the DCU.
>Superman will feature 18 heroes and 7 villains
Remember when Snyderhaters complained about the DCEU being bloated? They seem pretty quiet now....
I dont bloody care if fricking Biomecha Hitler with the Exaclibur gets in, I just want a GOOD Superman movie
All these fricking multiverse films gotta cram everything in so they can have their avengers moment. Fricker, no one cares about all these fricking characters in your film unless we get time to know them!
And they'll die within the first fifteen minutes of the film while Waller's team bets on who goes first for a giggle.
>waller doesn't run the creature commando team
>she just tasks satellites to track various superheroes waiting for them to frick up
>also runs a side business selling superhero snuff porn to fund her operations
Seems right up Gunn's alley.
Real talk, why does the government even bother with Waller and her team? Every villain that served goes back to being a badguy again. Ticking time bombs.
>why does the government even bother with Waller and her team?
Pass the responsibility in case they frick up, plus they don't have the resources to fight things like an out of control mage or a kaiju starfish.
Outside the IP money bankers. She actually has a pretty good record of squeezing work out of them before blowing their brains out. Not much you can do against Harley and by extension her coworkers.
How much of the movie do I have to watch in order to understand the next movie then?
Frick, the Middle east plot is real. I knew Gunn was lying about that rumor being false. Tom King is such a hack, no one wants to see Superman rehashing the war on terror. Just let him fight fricking Brainiac or Mongul or something!
It was real but got changed to Europe because of the israel-hamas war
If that's a real set photo then it seems like they didn't actually change it.
>look at how Nathan Fillion was used in GOTG 3
>look at how Nathan Fillion was used in The Suicide Squad
>shriek hysterically because Nathan Fillion as cast in a supporting role (as friggin Guy Gardner) for the 3rd time in capeshit, and you're paranoid that this time it's going to be some bloated thing that takes away from the DCU
These people are playing supporting characters. We're talking no more than 15 minutes-ish tops. Gunn is inspired by the JLI era, and the JLU cartoon, and New Frontier. He wants to tell a story of Superman rising to become the "good guy" of Earth. Other super heroes will exist to serve as window dressing and present philosophical different approaches to being a hero-- that will serve to make Superman stand out.
We've already seen a Superman origin story. People know it. It's been told for 45 fricking years in movies. People are tired of Superman being in boring movies. People just want a good fun Justice League/Superfriends movie.
You people have no media literacy.
>inb4 mongloid "shill" or "pedo" shitposts from snyder-tists and the pedo obsessed
forgot to add, he's casting the actors he likes as these B list supporting superhero characters because the plan is to sprinkle them in as supporting characters throughout the first chapter of his DC movie universe.
You act like it takes 6 movies of solo superman learning to become the first metahuman before we're allowed to see Martian Manhunter.
yeah, all these other heroes are very minor, specially compared to Supes.
Now, if we were talking about Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and other major heroes, i would understand the concern.
Yeah these people don't understand that *this* is the only way you'll ever get characters like Guy and Hawkgirl and Metamorpho in a movie.
There's too many characters and studios + casuals ALWAYS ONLY want the big guns. That's how it works in floppies too. The Bi listers and C listers aren't deep enough to carry their own franchises. They have always existed as window dressing.
Gunn knows we're past the point of Nolan-inzation. It's been 22 years since Smallville which was on the air for several years. 30 years since Lois and Clark. 50 years since the start of FOUR Christopher Reeve movies. 50 years since the start of several years of Saturday morning cartoons. George Reeves was on TV 70 years ago. This is the 3rd Superman movie in the last 10 years. There is a second Lois and Clark show on TV right now.
People know Superman. Can we just get to the fun part already? The one where he's having adventures and inspiring a whole lineup of superheroes? Because Gunn's premise so far sounds like the closest attempt to that.
Or do we need to see him brooding as a teen in kansas for 90 minutes? Do we need a movie and a half to set up Zod again?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_medias_res
this is what Gunn is doing.
you know what other movies have done this?
>Tim Burton's Batman, Blade, Deadpool, Buckaroo Banzai, Big Trouble in Little China, Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy, Billy Zane's The Phantom,RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE
>You people have no media literacy
That has nothing to do with parsing out casting news you massive moron. You sound like some fat autistic who went to community college, took a script writing class and imagines he’s suddenly “in the know”.
you sound gotten to
>inb4 mongloid "shill" or "pedo" shitposts from snyder-tists and the pedo obsessed
Ok?? Take your meds, schizo.
>inb4 mongloid "shill" or "pedo" shitposts from snyder-tists and the pedo obsessed
Imagine defending a pedo. Imagine wanting a pedo to succeed...well I guess you don't have to imagine it.
Such a weird kneejerk reaction
>Pedo apologism
Check out.
Where did I defend Gunn? You are a fricking schizo.
>These people are playing supporting characters. We're talking no more than 15 minutes-ish tops.
You don't know that.
But even if it's the case, it's a cameo from a show most people will never see, so it's just going to discourage the audience who feel that they're missing out but don't want to bother with the filler stories. Not to mention that the movie was already bloated with characters before they crammed in Creature Commandos.
This isn't Suicide Squad or Guardians of the Galaxy, it's a solo movie, and it's supposed to be the first. But somehow it stars more characters than the Justice League and Avengers combined, and those movies had time to build up to that.
Everything we've seen from Gunn so far has been awful. The actors, the costume, and now more characters in a movie that already had too many characters.
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I WANT A SUPERMAN MOVIE WITH JUST SUPERMAN AND SUPERMAN CHARACTERS
Too bad, we have other movies and HBOslop to set up for our investors
and then gandalf the grey
>stuff in as many characters as possible, we're setting up a cinematic universe
Time is a flat circle