The entire sequence of Luke coming into Jabbas palace in Empire Strikes Back is objectively the best episode of Star Wars in the entire series. It's the prime example of showing what being a Jedi Knight is supposed to be, traveling the galaxy and fighting evil criminals in dangerous situations. It also just has long shots of just weird aliens and druids as puppets and claymation which is what everyone came to see from the story
It’s pretty cool, it was my favourite part as a kid. Something about all of it just clicks with a child’s brain
Oola made my peepee happy
slave leia too, Jabba should have won
based post, agree on every point, Return of the Jedi was my favourite of the trilogy almost purely because of this part.
I acknowledge Empire is probably objectively the best though
also based!
It makes me happy to know that Carrie Fisher is burning in hell and that part of her punishment is knowing that several serviceably attractive white women voluntarily wear the bikini that she hated so much.
I have nothing against Fisher but I kek'd anon
Leia is pure. Carrie was not but that makes her playing Leia so well even more based than Carrie screwing her was through the cast and crew.
Forgot pic
Two threads today where I'm jealous of every grip or regular camera guy who got to rail Carrie in some bathroom between takes. Based bawd, no one like her.
Most actresses just frick their male costars, directors, producers, etc. Nice that Carrie was so democratic with her charms lol.
>the bikini that she hated so much.
She b***hed about everything. You can see interviews where she complained about lack of wardrobe in Star Wars, then she b***hed about the wardrobe in ESB not being sexy enough, so George let her wear a biking in ROTJ and she STILL b***hed.
Never placate women.
every second of the jaba's palace scene I just associate with thumbing through and pausing my VHS at various parts to crank off to the slave leia scenes. I remember every single angle perfectly. Thought of taking pictures of my TV so I could have them all at once but the film would be developed the next time my mom went to get it developed and was afraid she would see them.
Jabba's palace is one of the most soulful locations in Star Wars for sure, I was obsessed with it when I was a kid and I can still name a lot of aliens and their species in it.
For me it's B'omarr monks.
thought that was eyes wide shut there for a minute.
I warn you, if you chi chi may any further or if you ooh ki tay to anyone about what you have seen, there will be the most dire consequences for you and your family. De wana wanga?
>you should have a cloak liked with nerf
fudge. "lined" not "liked"
>Empire
Shut up nerds
>Empire Strikes Back
>Empire Strikes Back
You fricking Black person. Let the thread die and try to get it right next time.
>Empire Strikes Back
>The entire sequence of Luke coming into Jabbas palace in Empire Strikes Back is objectively the best episode of Star Wars in the entire series.
When I was a wee lad and heard GL talk in an interview about possible sequels for star wars that’s the visual that came to mind, to see Luke being a badass jedi master. Shame it all went to shit
For me it's the Droid foot branding
Luke should have been eaten by the rancor and the rest of the movie should have been slave Leia being pimped to various bounty hunters.
>It's the prime example of showing what being a Jedi Knight is supposed to be,
>KNOCK KNOCK SAY HELLO TO MY GLOCK
Yes.
>Empire Strikes Back
fricking moron
Why didn't Han just pay his debt? The Rebels already gave him a dozen fricking crates of money
He's Greek
He's clearly Chinese. Hence why he's called Han.
Chinese would've baited Greedo into shooting first so he could invade his island and claim it as rightful Solo land.
A pirate stole his money.
He got caught before he could square up with Jabba
He must have been American, that's just how they do it there
yeh, I agree 100%. Incredible worldbuilding, there's a simple goal, there's plot complexity, double twists, you get to see the new improved Luke, with a new lightsaber, wearing all black. Jabba's a great puppet, so are all those freak aliens. Luke fighting the Rancor is iconic, so is him fighting on the ship above the sarlacc thing. And it's Jedi lmao.
>Luke is making the israeliteluminati triangle with his hands
damn, after the first time you ~~*notice*~~, it just never stops
Free Palestine
that's a mudra you fricking baka
KOO NEE TAY
>The entire sequence of Luke coming into Jabbas palace in AWM39V is objectively the best episode of Star Wars in the entire series. It's the prime example of showing what being a Jedi Knight is supposed to be, traveling the galaxy and fighting evil criminals in dangerous situations. It also just has long shots of just weird aliens and druids as puppets and claymation which is what everyone came to see from the story
>lando, a businessman politician becomes a military general and leads the attack on the second death star with his space mexican friend
Yes
Any rank above captain or maybe major is a politician.
You're a moron.
Mara Jade is trash.
Why would a politician be leading the charge in a space battle?
Don't know much about ancient Rome, do you?
Why would space people from another galaxy follow Roman military ethics?
It's a fantasy film set it space, anon
>Falcon is the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy
>Han, the best Falcon pilot, is on the ground with the Ewok Rape Team
>Lando, previous owner of the Falcon, is the 2nd best pilot for the task
>His Mexican Homie is the only one with hard enough to ride with Lando
Sorry the movie didn't spell this out for clearly enough.
It's just funny if you overthink it, don't be such a bore
>Mara Jade is trash.
You wouldn't have preferred the Thrawn trilogy to the dumpster fire that was the sequel trilogy? Singular taste, anon.
Sequel trilogy is trash too but no while Zahn's isn't absolute trash it is horribly overrated. Thrawn and Palleaon are good characters and the Noghri are an interesting arc but Joruus is shit and Luke's arc is shit, and the clone aspect is mediocre. Leia's arc is alright regarding the noghri and coping with being secretly Vader's child, but outside of that she's mediocre and I don't recall Han really so obviously lackluster.
I liked Mara's story best, followed by Leia's. Thrawn and Palleon were the best on the Imperial side. One thing I hate about any SW novels involving OT characters are rhe endless callbacks to the films. Yeah, we get it, you want the reader to remember specific movie moments, but they're almost a crutch to prop up poor or no characterization in the novels.
It’s five years after RotJ, so why is Luke acting like a naive idiot?
>Any rank above captain
This.
Field grade and above are political pieces of shit.
In Rome, the politicians led armies with the help of local auxilia
that's kind of par for the course with a disorganized rebellion
>Empire Strikes Back
Every single character is a better version of themselves from the first two movies
>Luke becomes and acts like a true jedi master
>Han matures
>Leia becomes a true buttbawd for Han
>Tatooine, even more dangerous and criminal
>Vader turns against master
>Palpatine actually gets a role in the movie
>new Death Star not even fully finished but operational
RotJ doesn't deserve the hate
Vader is actually quite b***hmade and subservient in comparison to his active character in the second movie.
I also love the ewoks man. But it might be because I'm a fraggle rock guy and I like shit like that, their muppet village
>fantasy movie
>a tribe of underequipped halflings are oppressed by the evil empire
>rebellion makes its last stand at their side
>end the movie having a big halfling feast with drums and woodwinds
star wars is just space fantasy so what's the problem? why are fans afraid of whimsy? if you want dark and edgy you're watching the wrong franchise
>It was never about how powerful he is or how good at swordfighting he is, it was about his nearly Christlike capacity for forgiveness and seeing good in people, he believed Vader could be turned back to the light
star wars fans overlook this as well, revealing themselves as midwits and edgelords
The added palace dance number and boring as shit point between the speeder bike chase and Luke meeting with Vader definitely drag it down from being perfect.
No one hates RotJ for these reasons though you fricking mongol. They hate the ewoks. They are justified in hating the ewoks. And the ewoks take up a sizeable, unforgiveable amount of time in the film. Thus a lot of the film is trash. Thus people, justly, think it's trash, at least compared to ANH/Empire. The good in it does not outweigh the bad hard enough. Just enough to be enjoyable.
It would have been so much cooler if the Ewoks were switched out with Wookiees or something
The Jabba stuff was honestly worse than the Ewoks, at least until Luke shows up.
disagree strongly
what a terrible opinion
I don't hate the ewoks, I hate Warwick Davis
>letting a little person live rent free in your head
Anon...
*slowly raises paw*
I hate the whole movie outside of the luke/vader/emperor scenes
all of this by itself is meaningless
it only works because its payoff for the first two movies and completes those arcs
if you just made darth vader as a good guy it'd be suck, but him turning against the emperor only works because he wasn't a good guy up until that point
>RotJ doesn't deserve the hate
Haters gonna hate.
>Quentin Tarantino was in Return of the Jedi
Also could have been/should have been thr first time we meet Mara Jade. But George torpedoed the best female character in SW to keep Luke a bluebealls bitter celibate space monk.
Mara Jade’s a ripoff of Shira Brie.
It's cool for like 3 minutes until he falls into a pit in the floor and gets scared by some stupid lizard monster, basically demonstrating he was only larping as a serene, unflappable, stoic Jedi in the preceding scene.
>Jedi ‘master’
>falls in a hole and nearly dies
He killed a giant monster with a bone and a rock. I think he did a pretty good job
He looked like he was about to shit himself
You wouldn't be?
Jabba should have just left him in there. He couldn’t get out.
I'll go ahead and say it: I really hate the powerlevel crap people do with Luke in the OT as if he's the most powerful jedi who ever lived.
First off, it's pretty embarrassing because the things we see Hamill/Luke do on screen are pretty mild. It's competent basics of swordfighting but if you took Luke's OT choreography and pitted it against let's say Darth Maul's PT choreography or young Obiwan's PT choreography, Luke would get chopped in two within 15 seconds. Now you can say "it was a different time, limitations and fragile props etc" but it doesn't really contradict what we see on screen which is just not indicative of great power or great skill or speed. Which makes total sense and is not Luke's fault, he never had access to the training the previous jedi generations would have. How would he even get very good at fighting?
More importantly, powerlevel crap fundamentally misunderstands the value of Luke as a character. It was never about how powerful he is or how good at swordfighting he is, it was about his nearly Christlike capacity for forgiveness and seeing good in people, he believed Vader could be turned back to the light despite even the wise jedi and the entire galaxy refusing to believe it. And that quality is exactly what allows Luke to redeem his father and overthrow the Emperor. His rejection of evil no matter the cost is what saves the day, not strength or cunning or power levels. In fact I'd go so far as to say Luke's story is even cooler if he's merely an above average level jedi who won because of his goodness.
thanks for posting with a cat cause it made it obvious your post was gonna be gay af, of course the PT looks like theyre better fighters because they are more modern movies, Luke defeats Vader who is the best and thats the bottom line
tl;dr Anakin > Vader > Luke
Yes. Anti-Heroes and Dark Heroes will always be cooler than the goody two shoes Boy Scouts.
>the OT character is heckin' bad because he doesn't have a 15-minute lightsaber battle
>the OT character is heckin' bad
Who are you quoting?
Luke whooped Vader's ass in RotJ.
You're right about his nature of forgiveness but ultimately the message is actually hollow because it's forced to scapegoat the Emperor as the true irredeemable evil.
>the entire galaxy refusing to believe it.
It was originally implied that Obi-Wan tried in the past to redeem Vader. The line about "Obi-Wan once thought as you do". Of course retconned along with almost everything about the clone wars.
RotJ was always seen as the best of the trilogy. No one spazzed out about the Ewoks, most people liked them. And the combo of Jaba's Palace and the throne room fight are the two best sequences in all Star Wars movies. It wasn't until Kevin Smith's cynical, depressed, self insert character in Clerks started expounding on why Empire was so great and commented that all Jedi had was muppets that the opinion began to change. In fact, in the movie, when Randall, who is the cool smart oe asks Dante which film he prefers and Dante says, "Empire," Randall actually says, "Blasphemy," because at the time, this was the obvious concensus, and it's still the correct answer. All you have to do is listen to the RLM commentary track for Jedi to realize just how moronic Empire fans are, and how stupid their critiques of Jedi are.
>Kevin Smith was the original RLM
Time really is a flat circle, and everything rhymes with everything else
Canonically jedi were more like eunuch monks that worm tongued their way into intergalactic politics and did frick all sitting on cushions all day. You're confusing force users with religious zealots.
Do you guys prefer jedi rocks or lapti nek?
Lapti Nek. Talk about fixing something that wasn't broken. See also: Yub Nub.
It's the worst segment in the OT.
But I must warn you of my powers
Also, before all of the Boba Fett fan canon, Boba was drunk as frick throughout the whole sequence because he was partying after capturing Han, which is why he was killed by a blind Han Solo
>after capturing Han
He was sloshed for like an entire year straight?
Yes, he got paid out and was partying at Jabbas house for a long time
EU made it a year. It was originally 6 months.
Let's be completely honest, how many times did he frick her?
obviously he tongued her pussy and ass beyond repair, but do slugs have dicks?
Why does he kill the guard at the entrance? Seemed kind of unnecessary.
Because he wanted to flex.