I'm just gonna say it. How Flanagan combined this many Poe stories and still managed to produce one coherent story is fantastic. The cinematography is beautiful, the actors fantastic and the music is great as well. Easily his best show since Hill House.
nowhere near as good as midnight mass. decent but flanagan's cringe dialog ruined a lot of it
I liked it but it starts to drag around episode 5.
As much as I liked the show, the monologues gets a bit jarring at places
>prosecutor/detective/whatever talks to old man Usher
>ignores what he asked him and just keeps talking about the alcoholic drink instead
I hate this trope so much.
That one didnt bother me too much because that was Rod purposefully stalling the DA. The ones that bother me are the cynical "Thats how the system works" monologues, mostly because they just serve as over explaining shit and feel out of place, they are there so the actor can have his big "look Im acting, look how long this line is" moment
>IM NEVER GONNA SERVE NO MAN
>GRISWALD U R SO STUPID I AM LITERALLY A SUPERGENIUS
>FUCKING CONSOOMERS CREATED US
Madeline was the fucking worst
The last about consumers when we are having this tense moment between her and rod is the worst of all, and its the most out of place. I get that the idea is that she's rambling so she doesnt notice that she's drinking poison, but cmon, we could have had a dialogue about their relationship and there mistakes in place of Monologue about Capitalism #12
Not gonna lie when I heard this being advertised on the radio I thought it was an investigative documentary about Usher the rapper raping people or something. Like the Armie Hammer doc.
The Fall of the House of Usher: A town, down
finally I got to fucking use that joke
The final episode is 50% kino and 50% utter fucking retardation in a way I've never seen before
please elaborate
no
We owe David Lynch so much just for that alone
Just finished it the other day. It was really good. Better than Bly Manner for sure. I was thrown off by the sheer amount of gay multi racial couples and trans garbage, but I think that was kinda a joke and meant to shame it. Every scene in the old house with the DA was brilliant and peak spooky vibes.
There are literally more gay/bisexual relationships in the show than hetero ones by a huge margin. It's honestly insane and goes well beyond the idea of "look how degenerate these assholes are".
>Roderick Usher signs a deal with the devil that makes him rich and famous
>in return his bloodline will end after him
>all his subsequent children become gay, ensuring no further offspring
I'm thinking based
I actually had the though towards the end that he intentionally had a bunch of random kids with degenerates and foreign women to shield his 2 real kids. He knew death would come for them so he made a bunch of random kids to go first that he didn’t really care about.
I think it's true that he genuinely doesn't remember signing the deal, or not taking it seriously. Roderick seems to believe he is the cleverest man alive, while in fact he ows all his success to Madeline and Verna. Every character had a fatal flaw, for Roderick it was hubris.
I don’t know, while Rod seemed to be a fool most of the time and followed his sister, he wasn’t dumb. And seemed to accept the wish in the bar way faster than Mad. I think his real weakness was cowardice. He fathered a ton of kids because he knew when the last of his bloodline died he’d be next, so he made a bunch to protect himself and his first born kids.
That's a pretty good interpretation honestly. It bothered me that he jumped on the opportunity to sell out his kids for his own gain while Maddie was hesitant when up to this point it was Roderick who still had some semblance of humanity while Maddie was a cold calculating manipulator. But I guess the cowardice angle makes sense.
I don’t know if it was intentional or not, but they didn’t transition Rodrick well as a young man. He went from passionate dreamer who was appalled to see forgeries, to backstabber real fast and t eh never really gave a good reason. Madeline obviously was a big influence, but he seemed to be immune to her most of the time. And as adults they’re shown to be in balance, not one dominating the other. So it surprised me how ruthless he got so fast
Maddy called the shots on pretty much everything Roderick did in their youth. I do agree that his character changed way too quickly. Maybe it was supposed to be a taste of the forbidden fruit kind of deal.
how did this bald fuck marry that hot broad from the show
>The cinematography is beautiful
I literally turned it off 5 minutes in because the cinematography was shit.
Did the people who liked this just fast-forward through the first episode?
It's just women liking it because it's filled with sex scenes.
The only good thing about it is Bruce greenwood
How does the gay black investigator have kids with his husband?
They tried really hard
His husband is a trans man, chud
mpreg
NEVERMORE
NEVRMORE
NEVREMORE
NEVERMOR
ENEVEMEO
NEMVROR
NEVEROM
NEVRMO
NVRMR
NEVERMOR
NVERMOE
NEVMERO
Toby and Tina quitting was the best scene in the show. Hearty keks were had.
Agreed, one of the better shows i have seen in a while.
Honestly Mark Hammel killed it. His character was mysterious and badass. And dropped some cool lines in the end about going his own path and not being leveraged by anyone. Why couldn’t Disney bring a fraction of Mark’s nefarious side to Noo Wars.
Yeah he was perfect. Fucked up accident face really worked for the character and his gravelly voice was great.
The only problem was the voice he used would occasionally slip to “Skips” from regular show and it would make me giggle
I really liked how he’s given people enough deals to know that the one making the deal is the one trying to fuck you over.
Pajeet Gaymer Bro didn't deserve it.
>Pajeet Gaymer Bro didn't deserve it.
His boyfriend was the real victim. He and the granddaughter were the only innocent ones in this whole mess.
BILLT did nothing wrong
He stuck his dick in crazy
Well, he didn't really, did he
He was better in Midnight Mass but good here too.
it went way downhill after the orgy got cooked by acid. everyone is gay, capitalism is bad, republicans are bad, it checks all the boxes for the causes du jour. preachy and lame. mark hamill is a fag but his character was good
At least almost all mystery meat gay degenerates die horrible deaths while based Pym survives and takes it on the chin.
How they never checked if the "water" was good for the orgy is beyond me. When they hooked up the tanks to the sprinklers, surely they must have also noticed that the tanks where in really bad shape.
I fucking despised how it flip flopped from one great point to an absolutelly atrocious one. It felt like there was 1 competent writer and 3 retarded nepo-babies in the writing room.
>Eldricht abomination that regards humans as playthings and curiosities. Fully detached from them and puts them in front of faustian bargains just to see what they would do
>Seems to understand that different breeds of humans make different choices
>FUCK YOU AND YOUR SAILING AROUND THE WORLD IF YOU COULD ONLY GIVE 1% of ELON MUSK'S CASH YOU COULD STOP WORLD HUNGER
>Gives a monologue about cause and consequence, sentencing 80 people to die by melting their skin and organs because Perry decided to fuck around the water pipes.
>But Oh no! Mu poor Mulatto woman! Need to warn her to get out of there!!!
>Gives the twins the option to creat an empire based on opioid, a literal mountain of corpses over the span of decades
>But not muh poor sweet, little angel Leonore. I'm literally crying tears as I give you the sweetest most painless death of the whole family.
>I have lived aeons, outside of time and space. Humans have made atrocities that I have witnessed over and over without a care in the world
>But you bumped a ton of coke and tortured your wife? That is a bridge too far MISTER, I personally will intervene to torture you and berate you for being a CHUD.
>Of my sweet Cleopatra you are just so much of a girlboss that I will forgive you for snapping my neck and trying to do a loophole around my rules by killing your brother. You GO girl!
I hated how inconsistent it was and how much of a fucking Mary Sue Madeline was. She was as despicable as the rest but somehow she gets a free pass?
>I hated how inconsistent it was and how much of a fucking Mary Sue Madeline was. She was as despicable as the rest but somehow she gets a free pass?
How the hell did Madeline get a free pass. She was mummified while alive, her eyes ripped out and replaced with stones and then left to claw her way out of the basement for hours. She had one of the worse deaths.
Yeah, but the whole show made a point about how she was always in the right, the one to steer the ship, to lead the company. How she was a strong woman that needed no man, etc.
Besides, it was her brother that did her in not the abomination. For some reason, it's the abomination that kills everyone but it's the brothers that kill each other? And the rest of the family got killed first by getting humiliated and everything taken from them, the last of which was their sanity. Madeline died in a fit of rage while getting high praises from whatever passes as god in this world. She didn't get humiliated and broken as the rest of the cast. Basically she got a free pass from the writers. If it were me I would have put her in a positon where all her plans somehow fail, that she can outsmart the goddess, be on top of the world...only to be humbled by schitzo Dr.Manhattan.
>Yeah, but the whole show made a point about how she was always in the right, the one to steer the ship, to lead the company. How she was a strong woman that needed no man, etc.
Her interaction where she berates Annabel Lee for being a housewife and mother paints Madeline as a sociopathic monster. We are not supposed to like her. She is as horrible a person as anyone else in that family and the writing repeatedly emphasizes this. In her last monologue she tries to shift blame away from her, but it's clearly bullshit and framed as such. If you think the point was that Madeline was always in the right, you've missed the point entirely.
Again, I got that she was a complete sociopath and a full blown cunt but the writers sure as fuck favoured her much more than the rest of the cast.
>She got mummified
But not publicly humiliated, dressed down or even confronted. When the writers pick her as a favourite and try to make you like her it's like the movie "I Care a Lot" where, the main character is as despicable as they come but the writers tried by all their might to make you like the unlikeable cunt.
I liked the scene with Leonore a lot but I agree with the rest of your post, especially Madeline. What a fucking horrible character.
>that scene where she pitches the IT stuff to Griswald and he becomes a complete caricature of a radical feminist's idea of every man in a management position while she is the most awesomest Einstein-killer tier supergenius that ever lived
The funny thing is that, in that scene, Griswald actually read her like an open book, dismantled her plans and didn't even hold a grudge. Yet we are somehow to believe he was a fool? I keep saying, 1 good writer and 3 nepobabies in the room.
Yeah the guilt shaming from the monster that feeds on misery was odd.
>if you stopped making television for a year you’d solve world hunger
Fucking kek money has never been the problem. We’ve thrown billions at hunger and given away lifetimes of food. It just gets wasted or misappropriated. And btw if you canceled TV for a year millions of people would be out of work and would also fall into poverty and hunger. But hey, it sounded cool in the script.
Indeed and even out o character for the monster. Shit, after lifetimes of making faustian bargains...she still doesn't get that different humans are different? But now, "muh capitalism bad". It's so jarring that there's some great lines in the show and then it does the college freshman speech. Gave me whiplash.
I took it as her making the people she's about to kill feel bad about their wasted lives of hedonism before they die.
At the end the raven chic reminded me of crossroad demons from supernatural. Demons that should be horribly scarred and tortured souls from hell that act like nothing happened and are basically just snarky teenage girls with power fantasies. If raven chic was really a timeless being that’s witnessed all of humanity why is she so casual and takes the Ushers problems so personally.
for the lulz
No Ivan, I'm not going to watch it.
It's Ahmed now, get with the program idiot.
>Fall of the House of Usher
>has nothing to do with Usher the Rapper getting caught molesting children
Hard pass
After finishing this show I decided to give Midnight Club a chance despite what I've heard.
Wish I hadn't. What a pile of garbage lol
the only disturbing part was the chad guy finally giving up hope and not saying anything while they walled him in.
>In the end I truly witnessed the Fall of the House of Usher™ on Netflix directed by Mike Flanagan.
The House of Usher really did fall, didn't it?
woah that’s deep. almost as deep as i wanna bury my dick in carla gugino
it was fucking boring as shit. DURR I MAEK DEAL AND ALL MY LITTLE BASTARDS ARE ALL RETARDED STUCK UP CUNTS NOW THEY DEAD BOOHOO NOW I DIE
First 30 mins and we have
>le strong secretary mother
>ebil white male ceo
>righteous gay brown attorney
>incompetent white male heir
>righteous brown girl
>boss bitch white female heir
>wholesome gay black female doctor heir
Someone should tell who ever created this that there's such a thing as being "too on the nose'
>wholesome gay black female doctor heir
Haha yeah
🙂
>righteous brown girl
>boss bitch white female heir
>wholesome gay black female doctor heir
Watch some more, they are all horrible people. The wholesome black female doctor might be the worst.
Leonore is the only good person in the entire show
>Leonore is the only good person in the entire show
Because she died at age 14. If she had had a few more years she would have become equally as bad as the rest
Her grandad is convinced she'd grow up to be a good person.
Who knows, but she was basically the only kinda pure person in that whole shithole they call family.
And her grandad and aunt had no foresight
>so my kids die... at least they'll have like 30-40 years of good life
>I SURE HOPE THEY NEVER HAVE KIDS TOO
That and the fucker never stopped having kids. Prospero only made it to like 21.
OK now I'm on to the second episode and in the first 30 seconds we have
>righteous black guys monologuing to white about how le bad the system is and da epic racism
>you people? Really
My fucking God, is it really that hard to make a movie/series with out shoving all this shit in?
You're in luck, they all die horrible deaths.
That's not enough of a reward for having to put up with these caricatures in the first place.
Lol, ofcourse he was.
Evil whitey didn't mean black people, he meant gay people
Also I like how tongue in cheek they are with this shit.
>entire series is about le ebil pharmaceutical company's
>le soccer moms with headaches
>director is butt buddies with CNN and co
It's like they're gloating about the covid vaxxes.
They literally say safe and effective at one point
the nagger looks completely out of place
there is no way the black lesbian doctor is rod’s daughter, she’s black as night
That's what bothered me the most. Not the gay shit, not the anti capitalism, not even the weird bundle of contradictions that is Verna. How the hell am I supposed to believe that T'nia Miller is the biological daughter of Bruce Greenwood?? They wouldn't even be believable as distant cousins. The pajeet and the spic I get, fine, Rod shagged the maids. But I don't know what kind of vantablack cryptid he must have fucked to produce Dr. Lesbo.
Same. I rolled my eyes at a lot of the other stuff too but this was retarded. Leonore looked blacker than her mom too. Though I can buy Frederick having the world's most recessive genes.
>you think le developing le single chip would earn you some respec?