Uh... Well, it's not a good show, like not even remotely. The "good" first season has a completely nonsensical plot that relies on the villain making bizarre tactical errors that would make other cartoon villains facepalm. It's basically only considered "good" because the remaining nine seasons somehow ended up being even worse (and because that first season fit neatly on a single VHS tape, making it easy for kids to internalize it by simply watching it too many times).
So from a creative standpoint, it was indeed a total mistake.
According to Eastman and Laird, Sakai had more than one chance, but he'd have to give up/sell/share at least some of the rights to Usagi and he isn't willing to do that. That's also one of the main reasons why the current Usagi show is a spin-off.
According to Eastman and Laird, Sakai had more than one chance, but he'd have to give up/sell/share at least some of the rights to Usagi and he isn't willing to do that. That's also one of the main reasons why the current Usagi show is a spin-off.
Based Stan holding on to his rights. He makes enough money as it is, he's happy owning his shit. I wonder what will happen when he dies though he is pretty old and I don't know if he has kids.
Difficult question. I'd say yes, it is OK but it would require a bit more tact than how the concept has been approached.
Most stories in those comics are not as child-unfriendly as you might think, it's mostly extreme violence and some "adult" references which would need to go. The problem is that many people who have attempted to make child-friendly versions tend to not take their task seriously enough, and as such they rob the characters of their dignity simply because they think it's too weird to take seriously, think the MCU quipping on overload. Much like how the MCU undercut the tone out of fear of being seen as taking a weird thing too seriously in the eyes of the normies, kiddy TMNT does the same thing but far worse. Sure, Mutant Turtles may seem like a concept not worth taking seriously but you can literally take that approach with anything, it's a sliding scale of subjectivity here and deciding it's not worth taking seriously because it's out of the scope of realism is a slippery slope. You could just as easily dismiss the notion that anything using unrealistic elements isn't worth taking seriously, including but not limited to: >Dracula >Frankenstein >Night of the Living Dead >Alien >Conan >Cthulhu >Batman >Jurassic Park >Star Trek >The Birds >James Bond
The idea that something unrealistic should be automatically dismissed from being taken seriously is, quite frankly, not a great position to take on. Kiddy TMNT can't be overly violent, that doesn't mean it should be treated like a joke either.
Was TMNT ever "for adults"? It started as a parody of Daredevil for fricks sakes, the premise was never one you should take "THAT" seriously and prides itself in goofy sci-fi bullshit taking heavy inspiration from b-movies.
It's about as "for adults" as Star Wars was.
These threads tend to get populated by 2003/Mirage guys that are just barely into their 20s and are very concerned about appearing like mature adults. That's also why they're super angry that the turtles aren't constantly killing their enemies.
Uh... Well, it's not a good show, like not even remotely. The "good" first season has a completely nonsensical plot that relies on the villain making bizarre tactical errors that would make other cartoon villains facepalm. It's basically only considered "good" because the remaining nine seasons somehow ended up being even worse (and because that first season fit neatly on a single VHS tape, making it easy for kids to internalize it by simply watching it too many times).
So from a creative standpoint, it was indeed a total mistake.
Was TMNT ever "for adults"? It started as a parody of Daredevil for fricks sakes, the premise was never one you should take "THAT" seriously and prides itself in goofy sci-fi bullshit taking heavy inspiration from b-movies.
It's about as "for adults" as Star Wars was.
Obviously it did something right, the only reason TMNT is known at all is because of the 87 cartoon. That was a huge force in kids entertainment at the time and inspired almost every single kind of tie-in imaginable including 2 live action movies.
Kids liked the show despite the animation errors or wacky plots.
Yea sure. Even better if I have creative input that people took into consideration
People who scream sellout are people who will never get put in that position where you have the opportunity to make more money off an idea you nurtured by yourself and want to see grow. My biggest goal in life is for my work to outlive me long after I'm gone
This but I doubt it'll happen. Even though she is more important than characters like Krang, she was never technically in that show, making her an unlikely thing to reference.
If Usagi Yojimbo gets added, I think it might be a clincher for me.
That's even less likely, double licensing is a b***h.
>posts terrible versions of each >the girl so "down to earth" she literally went "nah, I don't want to go TIME TRAVELING" that sounds like too much fun" >the guy "reveling in the craziness" so much he considers it a HUGE VICTORY that he didn't get revenge on his father's killer
Agreed, April and Casey are shit characters. Wish they would stop showing up, but sadly idiots are going to say "You can't get rid of trash characters! You will get Next Mutation!" And even if you can convince executives to not bother with Casey, to tell them that a female character like April is not going to exist in TMNT media is the equivalent of committing a crime against political correctness you can't exclude twats in media. You always need at least one twat. Frick this trash Earth.
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2012 April was good the first couple of seasons. '86 April was pretty fun. IDW April started well at least.
2003 April was just a wet blanket almost all the time, incapable of actually enjoying the weird shit going on around her. Still blows my mind that she was offered a chance to see real live dinosaurs and went "No."
He is pointless. Casey is dumber than Michelangelo but because he's not one of the titular characters he's irrelevant. And whenever writers try to make Casey more intelligent, idiots complain that that is not Casey. Wish more TMNT media would not include this stupid character.
So this is the only version of the character that is not pointless, a version abandoned several decades ago and replaced by the special snowflake we have now.
Usagi, the Fugitoid, Mondo Gecko, the Punk Frogs, the Neutrinos, Metalhead, REX-1, Kerma and the rest of the Turtleoids, Gadgetman, Muckman, human Splinter, there is a bunch they could add. But I get the feeling we'd get another girl first, so maybe Irma with a 'clumsy' moveset.
Sushi would be the most popular choice, but there would be rights issues. Metalhead is a villain in this.
Since the Triceratons are in the game, maybe Fugitoid.
They could do some dumb multiverse shit and bring a turtle from each version of the series, considering the 80s show is the one that always crosses over with the other series
I think the developers stated that they couldn't include REX-1 due to the fact some 87 characters are owned by Fred Wolf. But they could add in Zach since he's owned by Paramount.
>remember beating Turtles in Time all the time as a kid >went back to play it >can't even beat Slash
Did I get worse at videogames? I also wish they were different shades of green.
If you created a semi popular underground comic aimed at adults, would you be ok with it being turned into a g rated show for kids?
Yes. For money.
What's it matter so long as it's good?
And as anon says
>What's it matter so long as it's good?
Uh... Well, it's not a good show, like not even remotely. The "good" first season has a completely nonsensical plot that relies on the villain making bizarre tactical errors that would make other cartoon villains facepalm. It's basically only considered "good" because the remaining nine seasons somehow ended up being even worse (and because that first season fit neatly on a single VHS tape, making it easy for kids to internalize it by simply watching it too many times).
So from a creative standpoint, it was indeed a total mistake.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE there's no lgbttqqiaapp bipoc representation!!!!
that's all you had to say, Cinemaphilemblr troony
there is bipoc representation in 80s tmnt. And even if you don't count this guy. Splinter was originally a japanese man in the 80s version
Asians aren't BIPOC
SHADOW CLONE JUTSU
Stan Sakai wished he could.
According to Eastman and Laird, Sakai had more than one chance, but he'd have to give up/sell/share at least some of the rights to Usagi and he isn't willing to do that. That's also one of the main reasons why the current Usagi show is a spin-off.
>Stan Sakai
Based Stan holding on to his rights. He makes enough money as it is, he's happy owning his shit. I wonder what will happen when he dies though he is pretty old and I don't know if he has kids.
Difficult question. I'd say yes, it is OK but it would require a bit more tact than how the concept has been approached.
Most stories in those comics are not as child-unfriendly as you might think, it's mostly extreme violence and some "adult" references which would need to go. The problem is that many people who have attempted to make child-friendly versions tend to not take their task seriously enough, and as such they rob the characters of their dignity simply because they think it's too weird to take seriously, think the MCU quipping on overload. Much like how the MCU undercut the tone out of fear of being seen as taking a weird thing too seriously in the eyes of the normies, kiddy TMNT does the same thing but far worse. Sure, Mutant Turtles may seem like a concept not worth taking seriously but you can literally take that approach with anything, it's a sliding scale of subjectivity here and deciding it's not worth taking seriously because it's out of the scope of realism is a slippery slope. You could just as easily dismiss the notion that anything using unrealistic elements isn't worth taking seriously, including but not limited to:
>Dracula
>Frankenstein
>Night of the Living Dead
>Alien
>Conan
>Cthulhu
>Batman
>Jurassic Park
>Star Trek
>The Birds
>James Bond
The idea that something unrealistic should be automatically dismissed from being taken seriously is, quite frankly, not a great position to take on. Kiddy TMNT can't be overly violent, that doesn't mean it should be treated like a joke either.
Sure, but I'd like more input than they had.
Was TMNT ever "for adults"? It started as a parody of Daredevil for fricks sakes, the premise was never one you should take "THAT" seriously and prides itself in goofy sci-fi bullshit taking heavy inspiration from b-movies.
It's about as "for adults" as Star Wars was.
These threads tend to get populated by 2003/Mirage guys that are just barely into their 20s and are very concerned about appearing like mature adults. That's also why they're super angry that the turtles aren't constantly killing their enemies.
If I got a cut of the profits and the show itself was decent, why the frick wouldn't I? All the more so if I had some creative input.
Hmmm.... well I suppose that it's kinda nice to be able to pay the rent...
If it'll let me buy a tank, sure!
Depends how good it is.
If my underground bullshit made me nothing while the kids show made me rich? Hell Yes.
Obviously it did something right, the only reason TMNT is known at all is because of the 87 cartoon. That was a huge force in kids entertainment at the time and inspired almost every single kind of tie-in imaginable including 2 live action movies.
Kids liked the show despite the animation errors or wacky plots.
Yea sure. Even better if I have creative input that people took into consideration
People who scream sellout are people who will never get put in that position where you have the opportunity to make more money off an idea you nurtured by yourself and want to see grow. My biggest goal in life is for my work to outlive me long after I'm gone
DLC Karai pls.
If Usagi Yojimbo gets added, I think it might be a clincher for me.
This but I doubt it'll happen. Even though she is more important than characters like Krang, she was never technically in that show, making her an unlikely thing to reference.
That's even less likely, double licensing is a b***h.
Anyone else feels like Casey Jones is a pointless character?
What’s is like having shit taste, loser?
Seethe, Casey is fricking lame.
No? Why would he be?
What is the point of this character? The turtles already have a human friend.
Yeah but she needs a love interest so people don’t try to ship her with a turtle
Eastman fulfilling his street level vigilante fetish.
Because one is down to earth and the other revels in the craziness of the situation?
>posts terrible versions of each
>the girl so "down to earth" she literally went "nah, I don't want to go TIME TRAVELING" that sounds like too much fun"
>the guy "reveling in the craziness" so much he considers it a HUGE VICTORY that he didn't get revenge on his father's killer
Agreed, April and Casey are shit characters. Wish they would stop showing up, but sadly idiots are going to say "You can't get rid of trash characters! You will get Next Mutation!" And even if you can convince executives to not bother with Casey, to tell them that a female character like April is not going to exist in TMNT media is the equivalent of committing a crime against political correctness you can't exclude twats in media. You always need at least one twat. Frick this trash Earth.
2012 April was good the first couple of seasons. '86 April was pretty fun. IDW April started well at least.
2003 April was just a wet blanket almost all the time, incapable of actually enjoying the weird shit going on around her. Still blows my mind that she was offered a chance to see real live dinosaurs and went "No."
I though april meeting/befriending the turtles was her qouta of "getting some wild fun excitement" in her life.
Imagine b***hing about a dude who wears a hockey mask and beats people up with a hockey stick.
Really sounds uncool compared to 4 mutated asian weapon weilding vigilantes
That's like asking there's already a ninja turtle why do you need three more
He is spiritually Canadian. This game is being made in Montreal.
He is pointless. Casey is dumber than Michelangelo but because he's not one of the titular characters he's irrelevant. And whenever writers try to make Casey more intelligent, idiots complain that that is not Casey. Wish more TMNT media would not include this stupid character.
>Anyone else feels like Casey Jones is a pointless character?
You stupid shit, let me educate you.
They weren't a comic relief crazy guy in the last 3 shows.
So this is the only version of the character that is not pointless, a version abandoned several decades ago and replaced by the special snowflake we have now.
What a chad.
Depends on the version
2012 literally forgot he existed for an entire season
Just admit you're mad causes he's fricking April and cucking the turtles
Not canon in the 80s show, nerd. Also I actually like Casey
I think he's only there because it would be weird if April dated one of the turtles.
but saying that he's likeable and he deosn't ruin anything.
I like Casey and I'm trying to think of a rebuttal but I can't. You're right, he's basically pointless besides to give April someone to hug
Yeah, but I don't give a shit. He's the coolest character.
No, thats Raph
No. He's a vigilante who fights people with sports equipment from his garage, that's cool.
>Comes out in less than a week.
Fricking hell can I have a little time to clear a calendar?
Here I thought Casey would be DLC.
Oh well, Kairi then.
More like Lotus Blossom.
No one cares about Karai stop posting about her.
You're right. Post Aska instead
floof mommy dlc when?
Never, 87 cartoon only.
I want to hug Alopex!
Alopex is fluffy!
FLUFFY!
the fact that splinter comes after april says a lot.
rat penis
Big deal. Casey has never mattered in the first cartoon and Casey is a stupid shit character in general.
How come there is no bipoc trans tortoise?
Rent
Free
PLAYABLE VILLAIN DLC WHEN?
If they do that they better include Slash. Toy design.
Alright, I watched the trailer. Why would the game only have six player mode when it has seven playable characters?
Because then somebody would have to play that bore Leonardo.
>Tempestra all the way in the back of the title image
Both a deep cut and a fitting one, since she's actually from an in-show arcade game.
When does this finally come out?
Will it be any better than NASB?
In one week.
Holy shit he could crush a watermelon with those thunder thighs
Why are all the designs in this game so fricking juicy? Who even is the main artist?
What other non-villain character could possibly be playable at this point? Mondo Gecko? Mona Lisa? Irma?
Lotus Blossom?
REX-1?
I've only seen a few episodes of the show. The REX-1 episode was one of them.
There's always the option of using the villains.
I mean, convert them to good guys just for this game.
Usagi, the Fugitoid, Mondo Gecko, the Punk Frogs, the Neutrinos, Metalhead, REX-1, Kerma and the rest of the Turtleoids, Gadgetman, Muckman, human Splinter, there is a bunch they could add. But I get the feeling we'd get another girl first, so maybe Irma with a 'clumsy' moveset.
Metalhead’s a villain in this game, just like in Turtles in Time.
Sushi would be the most popular choice, but there would be rights issues. Metalhead is a villain in this.
Since the Triceratons are in the game, maybe Fugitoid.
Should say Usagi not Sushi
They could do some dumb multiverse shit and bring a turtle from each version of the series, considering the 80s show is the one that always crosses over with the other series
I think the developers stated that they couldn't include REX-1 due to the fact some 87 characters are owned by Fred Wolf. But they could add in Zach since he's owned by Paramount.
The only correct answer
Guest characters
>Street Sharks
>Biker Mice From Mars
>Samurai Pizza Cats
B A T T L E T O A D S
It'd be better than that trainwreck reboot they got a few years ago that tried to be every game genre all at once
I want the comic Mona Lisa
ray fillet. im still pissed they wasted him on the genesis tournament fighters game
id take em
Aren't we missing like... two very important members of the family? Judt saying...
I’m sure the video game designers are aware. Maybe we’ll see them more in the cut scenes.
give TMNT reading recommendations
>remember beating Turtles in Time all the time as a kid
>went back to play it
>can't even beat Slash
Did I get worse at videogames? I also wish they were different shades of green.
Only hit Slash like 2 or 3 times in a row; if you hit him more than that he'll do that undodgeable spin attack.
I am hyped for Splinter. He is my favourite TMNT character. I am going to 100% this game with him
I was expecting the Addams Family to be honest.
Semi-relevant, what's some good TMNT media to check out if I'm interested?
the original mirage comics, the '87 toon.
the image comics
The 1990 live-action film is very good.
I'd say the 2003 and 2012 cartoons are more accessible than the 1987 cartoon - just be aware that they WILL jump the shark eventually
This; easily one of the top 10 comic book movies
Damn I want this game.
Who would they add as a good 8th character?
Horridus
ALL THE STARS ARE HERE
>people hating on Casey
LAAAAAAAWWWWWBREAKERS
How low can ya get?!