If you watch both movies back-to-back it becomes really obvious how much effort they put into 1's script and pacing and how little they put into 2's by comparison. 2 is simply lower-quality in terms of writing, on every level. Scenes are less entertaining and less efficient. The villain is of course way worse. The character arcs are less concrete. The themes are less coherent. And so on.
You can blame the year they lost due to having to swap places with Toy Story 4, and I'm sure that was a huge factor, but I personally think it was a huge mistake to not have a time gap between movies. All the characters are in the same place they were in 1, the family dynamic has barely changed so there's less to explore. If they do make 3 they definitely need to jump ahead a couple years at a minimum.
It's the most underwhelming sequel ever made but I guess it's not completely horrible. Just clearly rushed and definitely not worth the wait. It absolutely deserved harsher critical reception than it got, just like Wreck It Ralph 2, which was worse.
WIR2 was all-around shit, just 90 minutes of internet memes and references with a storyline that directly defies the morals/character arcs of the first movie.
Incredibles 2's crime is just being...not as good as the first one.
It wasn’t great, but there were parts I enjoyed >villain reveal was cliche and not very good, but the villain concept itself was ok >seeing the supers fight other supers was fun
I think what really brought it down was the heavy-handed way they tried to do the whole “independent woman” concept for the story with Helen, and making Bob look like a complete doofus in the father role was also really uninspired
Crazy how the first one was so good and the sequel is so mid
Nope, Brad was saying Incredibles 2 was his next project after Tomorrowland well before Tomorrowland bombed.
Finding Dory's the real "Sequel made specifically so the director can get out of movie jail"
Mediocre as a stand alone movie. Not a worthy sequel 14 years in the making.
Jack-jack shenanigans (racoon battle and others) and some of Helen's action scenes were nice, the rest was either predictable, cringe or boring. I had Screenslaver figured out ~20 minutes into the movie, except I expected the brother to be in on it as well.
How did they manage to frick it up after all these years of planning time? Did no one expect there to be a new one and someone had to pull a plot out of their ass?
Jack Jack is garbage. He is a useless character in the whole franchise. Annoying as frick. I predict he'll grow to be a typical millenial douchebag and turn into a bad guy. Then there will probably be some sort of "redemption" bullshit as in this age of liberalism there's "a good guy in all bad people and they just need love, hugs and understanding" bla-bla-bla.. (roll eyes).
The 2nd movie is full of subtle feminist propaganda. Yeah, you're right, the movie was garbage. I just want action and entertainment and not be preached to that seems to be so prevalent in todays manipulative media. Hopefully Violet will mature in the next movie.
There was a 10 or 11 year gap between me seeing these movies, and i was predicting every single move that the movie made. I didn't particularly like it.
But holy frick they really sexed up Violet a lot, she's extremely attractive and well animated.
>shilling >threads that lasts several days because no one gives a shit about the animated turd so shills have to page10 bump it over and over
As I said, shitbait. Also, you didn't even bother reading the thread before posting. Every post is calling it mediocre at best.
I hate this movie.
Mainly cuz at the time it was in theaters, my sister was being so insufferably cancerous to me, I didn't want to go see it with the family just to stay away from her.
Also it's ass and belittles mr incredible and only serves to fuel my disgusting hypno fetish.
I liked it but I'd personally cut all those weirdo secondary heroes like the grandpa that spits acid. shit was lame. also the ending rushes lore, they shouldn't be pushing for hero legislation so soon after the first movie. solid 8/10 otherwise
Put the Violet and Dash in their late teens or early 20s, Bob and Helen are more removed from the superhero scene. Villains are some campy group of old supers that have been in hiding for the last few decades and manage to capture Bob/Helen/Lucius. Kids have to track them down and deal with golden-age traps that are more annoying than they are deadly.
>QUAKE IN FEAR AS THE ROOM SLOWLY FILLS WITH TOXIC GAS! >Wait. What are you doing? (Is this gas flammable? Well, FIND OUT. The youngest one is on fire.)
>BEHOLD! THE FEROCIOUS ARMORED GRIZZLY BEAR! >With its raw physical power augmented by protective titanium plating, you'll have no choice but to... (Where did that purple bubble come from? Why is the bear floating in a bubble? They're halfway through our Labyrinth of Doom and there's been shockingly little "doom" taking place.) >*Dash, to a nearby surveillance cam* We can still hear you. These traps are lame. >They're CLASSICS! >*Lucius, in a nearby cell* Dunno, man. That grizzly was probably more trouble than it was worth.
>Kids continue to basically cheat their way through old-school scenarios using their powers, with Jack-Jack being especially aggravating to the villains due to his wider array of tricks -- fire immunity, teleportation, etc.
>Big reveal near the middle is that the LoD was a setup to observe the kids while fine-tuning the same suit/bot/whatever that captured their parents in order to counter the kids' abilities, which leads to a wild battle at the finale.
It was crap, but I enjoyed the Helen scenes.
What dust? Of course it was trash
The only thing it had going for it was improved character models, but everything else was...sub-Parr
Carlos!
Go to hell, Carlos!
The only thing I can really say about it is that it actually managed to beat the internet to the punch on Dash's fetish potential.
>it was garbage
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! NICE TRY! This movie is amazing! I wait to see a new sequel!
So true bestie! Only sequels and remakes and reboots forever! I don't want to see anything new ever again!
Screensaver should have been real, with Evelyn as his ally
They should have just used Mezmerella.
She looks moronic.
Less moronic then glowy Bane and Recycled Megamind b***h
wait she's a real character? I thought she was just from porn
Boom had like a 20 issue run of Incredibles before the license got pulled right when they were entering the finale.
Screen slavery pretty much was mesmerella, wasn't she?
In the sense that the evil white business guy in Iron Man 3 was The Mandarin.
If you watch both movies back-to-back it becomes really obvious how much effort they put into 1's script and pacing and how little they put into 2's by comparison. 2 is simply lower-quality in terms of writing, on every level. Scenes are less entertaining and less efficient. The villain is of course way worse. The character arcs are less concrete. The themes are less coherent. And so on.
You can blame the year they lost due to having to swap places with Toy Story 4, and I'm sure that was a huge factor, but I personally think it was a huge mistake to not have a time gap between movies. All the characters are in the same place they were in 1, the family dynamic has barely changed so there's less to explore. If they do make 3 they definitely need to jump ahead a couple years at a minimum.
The only issue I had with it was the villain's motivation being absurdly exaggerated; the rest was fine
better than any of the recent Pixar movies
Only ones that are worse than Incredibles 2 are Onward and Lightyear, the rest are better.
>Onward
Wasn't that more of a mediocre forgettable film than a horribly infamous one?
It's the most underwhelming sequel ever made but I guess it's not completely horrible. Just clearly rushed and definitely not worth the wait. It absolutely deserved harsher critical reception than it got, just like Wreck It Ralph 2, which was worse.
WIR2 was all-around shit, just 90 minutes of internet memes and references with a storyline that directly defies the morals/character arcs of the first movie.
Incredibles 2's crime is just being...not as good as the first one.
It wasn’t great, but there were parts I enjoyed
>villain reveal was cliche and not very good, but the villain concept itself was ok
>seeing the supers fight other supers was fun
I think what really brought it down was the heavy-handed way they tried to do the whole “independent woman” concept for the story with Helen, and making Bob look like a complete doofus in the father role was also really uninspired
Crazy how the first one was so good and the sequel is so mid
It only exists as an apology for Tomorrowland
Nope, Brad was saying Incredibles 2 was his next project after Tomorrowland well before Tomorrowland bombed.
Finding Dory's the real "Sequel made specifically so the director can get out of movie jail"
I didn't hate it, but it was definitely a downgrade from the first in just about every way
Mediocre as a stand alone movie. Not a worthy sequel 14 years in the making.
Jack-jack shenanigans (racoon battle and others) and some of Helen's action scenes were nice, the rest was either predictable, cringe or boring. I had Screenslaver figured out ~20 minutes into the movie, except I expected the brother to be in on it as well.
Helen sexo 2
that's all
I thought that was already mostly agreed upon on the internet.
>Now that the dust has settled, we can finally admit it as a board.
What are we admitting?
OP's homosexuality.
That it’s the only good Pixar movie of the 2010’s
How did they manage to frick it up after all these years of planning time? Did no one expect there to be a new one and someone had to pull a plot out of their ass?
Jack Jack is garbage. He is a useless character in the whole franchise. Annoying as frick. I predict he'll grow to be a typical millenial douchebag and turn into a bad guy. Then there will probably be some sort of "redemption" bullshit as in this age of liberalism there's "a good guy in all bad people and they just need love, hugs and understanding" bla-bla-bla.. (roll eyes).
The 2nd movie is full of subtle feminist propaganda. Yeah, you're right, the movie was garbage. I just want action and entertainment and not be preached to that seems to be so prevalent in todays manipulative media. Hopefully Violet will mature in the next movie.
There was a 10 or 11 year gap between me seeing these movies, and i was predicting every single move that the movie made. I didn't particularly like it.
But holy frick they really sexed up Violet a lot, she's extremely attractive and well animated.
Dude this board is shilling primos of course they're gonna say incredibles 2 wasn't garbage
The irony of this automatic bot reply that has nothing to do with anything
>shilling
>threads that lasts several days because no one gives a shit about the animated turd so shills have to page10 bump it over and over
As I said, shitbait. Also, you didn't even bother reading the thread before posting. Every post is calling it mediocre at best.
I hate this movie.
Mainly cuz at the time it was in theaters, my sister was being so insufferably cancerous to me, I didn't want to go see it with the family just to stay away from her.
Also it's ass and belittles mr incredible and only serves to fuel my disgusting hypno fetish.
braaaaap
Yeah. It was a bad rehash.
I liked it but I'd personally cut all those weirdo secondary heroes like the grandpa that spits acid. shit was lame. also the ending rushes lore, they shouldn't be pushing for hero legislation so soon after the first movie. solid 8/10 otherwise
This was never in argument. The only thing anyone likes about this movie is Helen's ass.
Put the Violet and Dash in their late teens or early 20s, Bob and Helen are more removed from the superhero scene. Villains are some campy group of old supers that have been in hiding for the last few decades and manage to capture Bob/Helen/Lucius. Kids have to track them down and deal with golden-age traps that are more annoying than they are deadly.
>QUAKE IN FEAR AS THE ROOM SLOWLY FILLS WITH TOXIC GAS!
>Wait. What are you doing? (Is this gas flammable? Well, FIND OUT. The youngest one is on fire.)
>BEHOLD! THE FEROCIOUS ARMORED GRIZZLY BEAR!
>With its raw physical power augmented by protective titanium plating, you'll have no choice but to... (Where did that purple bubble come from? Why is the bear floating in a bubble? They're halfway through our Labyrinth of Doom and there's been shockingly little "doom" taking place.)
>*Dash, to a nearby surveillance cam* We can still hear you. These traps are lame.
>They're CLASSICS!
>*Lucius, in a nearby cell* Dunno, man. That grizzly was probably more trouble than it was worth.
>Kids continue to basically cheat their way through old-school scenarios using their powers, with Jack-Jack being especially aggravating to the villains due to his wider array of tricks -- fire immunity, teleportation, etc.
>Big reveal near the middle is that the LoD was a setup to observe the kids while fine-tuning the same suit/bot/whatever that captured their parents in order to counter the kids' abilities, which leads to a wild battle at the finale.
>the first movie's plot but worse
what was the point?