The Irish connection makes Sons of Anarchy St. Patrick's Day content. Have there actually been any good shows since SoA ended?
The Irish connection makes Sons of Anarchy St. Patrick's Day content.
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White people being proud of heritage is problematic and toxic.
Take your klan rally thread to pol. Slava Ukraini.
>yet another vatmoron spergout
Where? Also
>vatmoron
This isn't a thing.
SOA was soap opera shit for hillbilly boomers
All "prestige television" is just soap operaism given a glossy coat of paint. The difference is that SoA fully understood this, embraced it, and built tonal metacommentaries that informed and reflected on the nature of the medium while having a whole lot of fun,
the writing was too bad for me to have fun with it
for shlock that's repetitive, I'll watch something like burn notice--I know it's a different type of show, but a show with a whole cast of characters cant have shit writing or it's not worth the squeeze
something closer to the style of SoA with excellent writing, characters, and steaks?
The Shield
>built tonal metacommentaries that informed and reflected on the nature of the medium while having a whole lot of fun,
Really? Stopped watching after S2 and never noticed that. Can you give some examples?
People overlook it because the show is MC content and can be taken at face value, but SoA is also top level satire and a deconstruction of media culture and long form television as a medium. The show being based on Hamlet is well known, and we see the progression from normalcy to absurdity that we should expect in line with Ophelia's descent into the lake, the stabbing of Polonius, but the show's own internal commentaries on the media landscape might just as well be The Murder of Gonzago as much as they are Hamlet, using "the play within the play" device multiple times to skewer the nature of content that must extend and propagate itself by virtue of season contract lengths demanded by studios. Jax is not only unable to kill Clay and Gemma and quickly resolve the situation and save his family and the S.A.M.C.R.O MC because he is an analog for Hamlet, he is unable to do these things due to the ordinance of God, the network television system. At the essence of tragedy is the bitter, unsatisfying resolution that could have been easily avoided but was also impossible to avoid, and at the heart of that are questions about the nature of free will. To be or not to be, these are questions that Hamlet and Jax can ask but ones they can never actually be given the power to answer due to the nature of circumstance, destiny, and being a slave to one's own drives and inevitable mortality. Through the baseline connection to Hamlet, we see history first repeating as tragedy, and as the show moves through recycling and updating previous story cycles it has already brought to the screen, we see tragedy repeated as farce. The progression of Tigg's character, Otto (Kurt Sutter) biting his tongue off and other exploits in the both symbolic and literal prison of the show, Marilyn Manson, Gemma's songs, it's an extremely well organized and exercised piece of metafiction that can also be appreciated in the pure sense as MC content.
Yeah no, you're reading too much into it, and embarrassing yourself while so doing.
What's your counter thesis and can you support it? Everything I've said is completely supported by the text of the show and comments from Sutter himself.
I just said it. You're over-complicating it to sound smart, and achieving the opposite effect in the process.
You're not even engaging with the show. You're just writing it off because the show doesn't present itself as pretentious high art crap. Literal midwit behavior.
This is the correct take. Most people missed the Hamlet context entirely.
What kind of content do you like then? What kind of content is actually good?
NTA but The Sopranos is basically the Italian mafia version of "what if SOA was a good show?". Also Tig fucks chuds. Not based.
Did you miss the part where he is basically insane and his rise in the ranks of S.A.M.C.R.O coincides with the decline of the MC? Literal commentary on the decline of civilizations.
this show turned to shit as soon as they went to ireland
Can't agree with this. But on the basic level I would just say that some MC content is better than no MC content.
the season 3 was the worst season but everyone remembers the dyke getting killed
Sutter built an entire show on "badass" finales.
That little town had a gang for every ethnicity known to man. And they all took a lot of casualties once Jax came up with his secret plan each episode. Hundreds of dead gang members for the enemy gang without any casualties for the sons, except maybe a generic character who appeared two episodes ago. Do the feds ever notice that this California town has a murder rate higher than Juarez Laredo combined? Not really Wait, what’s that? It’s time for today’s musical montage
soa posting while it was airing was goat content
No reason it can't be great again, in my opinion
SAO ended in 2014, True Detective started in 2014.
Also, Bosch.
Is the golden age of television dead?
Will they make good content again or is the culture just too far gone?
>MC content
>don't mind if I do
Why didn't he just move with his ladyfriend?
I actually like the idea of people being able to enjoy non pretentious content on a deeper level while also just enjoying fun stuff like St. Patrick's day.
SoA totally supports a scholarly reading. Juice is a stand in for Rosencrantz and Guildenstern and meets a similar fate. Say this aloud with me, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Juice.
Might have to mix up one of these and have a relaxed day streaming before really going out to party tonight, might as well be MC content. Anyone got any recs?