John has this weird role where he's like magic representative of DC now when that role can fit Zatana easily. that being said I liked him in the Doom Patrol story for the Halloween special this year
John has this weird role where he's like magic representative of DC now when that role can fit Zatana easily. that being said I liked him in the Doom Patrol story for the Halloween special this year
It's weird because who the fuck is it this John Constantine fanservice for?
Gen Z readers who haven't even started reading the first issue of Hellblazer yet?
Just that tiny bit of creative effort when writers couldn't use JonCon willy nilly and had to come up with a replacement is dead? Is the fact that we know magical characters besides Constantine exist make us that much of an outlier?
Writers today just have zero curiosity if DC ever offered anything more then Hellblazer?
Ugh.
For Normies, John fills a very specific niche in that he exists as a character that has magical adventurers but is "above" the superheroic genre. it's for people that want to like capeshit but think they are too cool to like it
>Gen Z readers who haven't even started reading the first issue of Hellblazer yet?
it's for the same readership as whatever that weird Hellblazer but he's in a girl punk band YA Slop was that DC released. I guess DC just love to rape John when they get the chance
I'm not approaching this from a sympathetic view towards John Constantine. I'm more indignant towards the lesser known characters who could've been a better suited role
i doubt Wong or the "We are Legends" editor could even name the other members of the trenchcoat brigade let alone any of the more obscure Magic characters DC has, John was chosen because he's the most well-known out of them, even if a general readership know very little about his character
I’ll do you one better it would have been a better comic if it was only about John and they got rid of the OC.
I think the comic would have been better if it was actually about the three characters and they had equal weight in the story. But instead it's all about Poochie. Cass and John are there just to enable Poochie's story and connect it to DC.
One of the extended Sandman comics did this same "magic doesn't work on deadnames" thing, but years earlier. The moon being a TERF doesn't speak for magic as a whole
>Did anybody read it?
I read it. >Was it any good?
Not really. The problem with the comic is that it's almost entirely Xanthe's book, and I just can't give a damn about Xanthe. If she had the decency to identify as a woman without this forced-diversity "they/them" bullshit she'd aspire to being mediocre, but now she's just a character I wish went away. Which she does at the end of #6, so, good I guess.
I read the comic because Cassandra Cain was in it. She does nothing. She could have been replaced with literally any other character without changing the story. There's also a so-called "John Constantine" who shoots fireballs from his fingers like he's Dr. Strange and doesn't really act anything like the John I remember from Hellblazer.
Art's the best part. It's not stellar, and it has a really bad sense of location (everything seems to happen in a void), but it's got energy and the girls look cute, and that's more than you usually get these days.
pretty much since this book was part of the "We are Legends" thing DC which was all about Asian heroes, the only one that anyone seemed to like was City Boy. i think even less people read the Vigil compared to this book
I skimmed through Vigil. That comic went off the rails fast and hard. It starts as relatively grounded street level action, and in the span of like 3 issues out of 5 they introduce a cosmic omnipotent wish-granting machine and tell me all the characters are figments of one guy's imagination and give them each a bag full of extra powers. It's the type of shit you'd normally do over the course of multi-year arc, crammed into a tiny miniseries. Didn't give me a positive first impression of Ram V's writing ability, I can tell you that.
Vigil's also cameoing in Ram V's 'Tec arc. That seems to be written more competently, though in an equally crazy fashion.
Yes. Incidentally the comic also says that your biology, not your culture or belief, determines your afterlife. If you're half-Chinese, your spectral ass is gettin' hauled to Chinese afterlife. Ironic, coming from an enby writer.
Yes. Xanthe is the laziest kind of "diverse" character there is. >born female >looks female >has a vagina >refuses to call herself female though, purely to be special
I have no respect for that kind of nonsense.
Any Xanthe fan service?
No and no
>Alyssa "Self Insert" Wong
Shit should have been a YA or Webtoon
Nobody read any of this so of course nobody red the latest issue.
I’ll do it myself before anyone else can
>red
Yikes
don't really like John Constantine being a combat mage so no.
the book would have markedly improve if John was not in the title, felt like a third wheel for the entire book.
I’ll do you one better it would have been a better comic if it was only about John and they got rid of the OC.
I disagree their simply due to Wong's writing of Constantine being shitty, she can't write him to save her live
John has this weird role where he's like magic representative of DC now when that role can fit Zatana easily.
that being said I liked him in the Doom Patrol story for the Halloween special this year
It's weird because who the fuck is it this John Constantine fanservice for?
Gen Z readers who haven't even started reading the first issue of Hellblazer yet?
>It's weird because who the fuck is it this John Constantine fanservice for?
Just that tiny bit of creative effort when writers couldn't use JonCon willy nilly and had to come up with a replacement is dead? Is the fact that we know magical characters besides Constantine exist make us that much of an outlier?
Writers today just have zero curiosity if DC ever offered anything more then Hellblazer?
Ugh.
For Normies, John fills a very specific niche in that he exists as a character that has magical adventurers but is "above" the superheroic genre. it's for people that want to like capeshit but think they are too cool to like it
>Gen Z readers who haven't even started reading the first issue of Hellblazer yet?
it's for the same readership as whatever that weird Hellblazer but he's in a girl punk band YA Slop was that DC released. I guess DC just love to rape John when they get the chance
I'm not approaching this from a sympathetic view towards John Constantine. I'm more indignant towards the lesser known characters who could've been a better suited role
i doubt Wong or the "We are Legends" editor could even name the other members of the trenchcoat brigade let alone any of the more obscure Magic characters DC has, John was chosen because he's the most well-known out of them, even if a general readership know very little about his character
Kami Garcia is fucking cancer incarnate
I think the comic would have been better if it was actually about the three characters and they had equal weight in the story. But instead it's all about Poochie. Cass and John are there just to enable Poochie's story and connect it to DC.
Nah that's dumb anon and your opinion is trash because chinese sword magician is cool.
Is Xanthe born a man or woman?
>but I changed my name and got a buzzcut I am non binary now!
At least the people who go under the scalp show their deranged commitment to the cause.
I don't think being non-binary detracts from Xanthe but I don't think it adds anything either.
But ultimately maybe that doesn't matter.
Woke gender ideology is always a net negative
Morally and ethically I disagree with you but narratively I'm thinking 6 issues just isn't enough space to do all these ideas justice.
Those tits are too big to be enby tits.
Xanthe has big tits. Can get pregnant.
Says she’s not a girl.
I don’t get it.
Reminder that you can't use magic in the DC universe if you're a bigot. Sorry, chuds. Magic has a liberal bias.
But that conflicts with the established Sandman lore that moon is a bigot??
One of the extended Sandman comics did this same "magic doesn't work on deadnames" thing, but years earlier. The moon being a TERF doesn't speak for magic as a whole
Well that's not how truenames work.
Does she get her tits out?
No, she wears the same boring masculine clothes the entire time.
Sup Wong
I liked the braless monster lady.
That costume for Cass sucks.
>Did anybody read it?
I read it.
>Was it any good?
Not really. The problem with the comic is that it's almost entirely Xanthe's book, and I just can't give a damn about Xanthe. If she had the decency to identify as a woman without this forced-diversity "they/them" bullshit she'd aspire to being mediocre, but now she's just a character I wish went away. Which she does at the end of #6, so, good I guess.
I read the comic because Cassandra Cain was in it. She does nothing. She could have been replaced with literally any other character without changing the story. There's also a so-called "John Constantine" who shoots fireballs from his fingers like he's Dr. Strange and doesn't really act anything like the John I remember from Hellblazer.
Art's the best part. It's not stellar, and it has a really bad sense of location (everything seems to happen in a void), but it's got energy and the girls look cute, and that's more than you usually get these days.
The cover made me think this was an X Book or some shit
I wonder why Cass was even in the book. Is it really just because she's half-chinese?
pretty much since this book was part of the "We are Legends" thing DC which was all about Asian heroes, the only one that anyone seemed to like was City Boy. i think even less people read the Vigil compared to this book
I skimmed through Vigil. That comic went off the rails fast and hard. It starts as relatively grounded street level action, and in the span of like 3 issues out of 5 they introduce a cosmic omnipotent wish-granting machine and tell me all the characters are figments of one guy's imagination and give them each a bag full of extra powers. It's the type of shit you'd normally do over the course of multi-year arc, crammed into a tiny miniseries. Didn't give me a positive first impression of Ram V's writing ability, I can tell you that.
Vigil's also cameoing in Ram V's 'Tec arc. That seems to be written more competently, though in an equally crazy fashion.
honestly, that description sounds interesting I'll give it a read later but I guess in the context of DC continuity sounds really really weird
Yes. Incidentally the comic also says that your biology, not your culture or belief, determines your afterlife. If you're half-Chinese, your spectral ass is gettin' hauled to Chinese afterlife. Ironic, coming from an enby writer.
I guess some parts of celestial order are bigoted and some are not.
Isn't this the comic with the tranny genderspecial MC?
Yes. Xanthe is the laziest kind of "diverse" character there is.
>born female
>looks female
>has a vagina
>refuses to call herself female though, purely to be special
I have no respect for that kind of nonsense.