I actually want the Fantastic Four more than the X-Men. >buh buh there's never been a good FF movie so obviously a good one can never ever be made by anyone
Shut up. Look, at the very least I want a based Ben and a nice Thing versus Hulk battle and a half decent Doctor Doom.
Then again, I know Marvel is unlikely to deliver on that, especially after seeing how they have treated Reed in Multiverse...
It's a hero without a big name and being a teenager show and her being Muslim (a no go for some) it's gonna hurt till people find a reason to watch. One show being a low point, not bad isn't gonna ruin the MCU
Do any Muslims even like her? She's like an insult to fundamentalists at least.
Are you a part of that human centipede of fece-eaters who hated Brian Cranston's Power Rangers even though it was good, and who act like Josh Trank's Akira/Power Rangers Fant4stic was NOT sabotaged, even though it obviously was sabatoged?
Both casts of Fantastic Four need to be brought back, the older ones as zombies and the younger ones as Ultimate Fantastic Four so Miles Teller can bank on Fan4stic hate as Evil Reed and so non-Trank Doom can throw Fan4stic Glowy Trank Doom into the negative zone after power harness draining his Akira powers. Gag! So many details!
Except it was a lot of fun. I mean Saban sounds like Satan, so I can understand why you're programmed to ostracize but it was still very different and yet appropriately adapted to modern action movie standards.
But Josh Trank's Fan4stic was sabatoge, and the internal production sabatoge was as obvious as The Thing's lack of pants.
>Brian Cranston's Power Rangers even though it was good
Even when you ignore the aesthetic choices and the product placement littered through the film, if I'm watching a Power Rangers movie and instead of showing an actual combination sequence for the Megazord they just cut to it coming out of a dark cloud of smoke already combined, then I'm not watching a good Power Rangers movie.
the Brian Cranston POwer RAngers movie seems to want to pander to the fans and yet at the same time is ashamed of being a Power Rangers movie.
Which makes me want a "SHin Power Rangers" movie honestly. Something that has the good bits of Brian Cranston's movie, but with CGI that also pays homages to the old show by recontextualizing the old techniques like what Shin Ultraman did.
It's a hero without a big name and being a teenager show and her being Muslim (a no go for some) it's gonna hurt till people find a reason to watch. One show being a low point, not bad isn't gonna ruin the MCU
I watched trailer reactions to this show, and the response almost universally was >This looks like kiddie shit, I'm not interested
coming from grown ass adults who unironically enjoy superheroes
people who know who Ms. Marvel is are largely happy with the show for getting the casting and characterization right, outside of the people upset about the power change
>people who know who Ms. Marvel is are largely happy with the show for getting the casting and characterization right
Get fricked moron the characterization is nothing like the comics, or how it handles its themes. Go parret nonsense somewhere else.
>issue encourages voting like cartoon medias did for decades >hurr durr muh orange man feelings
I think Jan 6 did enough to show what some people thing really think about democracy.
>a show about a literal who super powered teenage brown girl that they completely changed her powerset
wow who could have ever guessed that this would flop horribly
>WE WANT THE X-MEN ALREADY
You already had them, and they were all utterly mogged by Marvel's resident moron, Deadpool. Even the X-Men's golden boy, Wolverine, did numbers comparable to Ant-Man of all characters.
>can't do inhumans because they fricked it up >changed her powers for no reason >cast a fat annoying b***h who can't act as Marvel >turned Bruno into a simp within a single episode >changed Ms Marvels character for no reason >shoehorned in feminist ideals which were handled far better in comics, because the writers are hacks >ignores muslim aspects of the story and how it effects her, or tones them down >Marvels mother is a tone deaf moron who can't act >plots completely changed because hollykyke writers don't have any respect for comics as a medium >if Captain ever turns up it'll be Brie, who fricking sucks >cheesy homosexual tier graphical effects everywhere because the creative hacks just copied Scott Pilgrim
WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY CURRY WIFE?
>new hero >given the feel of a teen targeted show >is presented as a fan of a character that isn't a fan favorite >going against star wars >racial background might put people off
And that's just for the MCU casuals for the people that do know kamala >changed her powers and the style of the story >removed characters or changing their personality >not using any of her more recognizable villains >Kamala's popularity has slipped massively and struggles to hold down even a mini
You know shit is bad when her latest mini is about her teaming with more popular characters.
>Ms Marvel is one of the most popular new marvel characters in years
She held steady at 30k sales for a little over a year, before a relaunch and Civil War 2 dropped her into cancelation numbers for the rest of her existence. Her team book and her solo book have both been cancelled and now she is forced to do a bunch of one-shots where she teams up with other characters to fight alternate universe versions of herself. Kamala is a failure.
would you also call Moon Knight a failure for not having good comic books between 1985 and and 2006?
would you call Doctor Strange a failure for not having a good comic book between 1997 and 2007?
capeshit is literally an endless cycle of good runs and bad runs
>kamala is super popular if you just ignore her comic sales, cancelled animated specials, and the fact that nobody is watching her mcu show
Whatever moron. Kamala is not, and will never be popular.
Yeah no we didn't like her then and we don't now. Moon Knight wasn't even always cool, his shit was in the 50¢ bin for years. Her shit started there and will end there. Cope, lather, and seethe
Now run the numbers accounting for 100,000 libraries staffed by Twitter-using “inclusive” dipshit c**ts who made sure to buy ten copies at full cover price
This is my theory so far.
Basically at the end of Shang-Chi, it sent out that signal.
My bet is that it sent out a ping to the Phoenix Force.
The Phoenix Force will then inhabit Jean Gray, which will bring the mutants who has been in hiding into public attention.
The X-Men will be trying to contain the Phoenix Force while trying to also save Jean, while the Avengers will be trying to stop Jean by any means possible.
This will mean the X-Men and Avengers will be fighting, until they decide to work together to either expel the Phoenix Force from Jean, or at least expel it from her and it fricks off to another solar system or something.
Just because she's been shoved into stuff doesn't mean people care about her. That game flopped so hard Square Enix sold off the Eidos studios. No one even remembers the Marvel Rising shit either.
Nobody cares anymore. Reboots of all kinds will be out the door as well in about six months, whether the industry wants to continue banking on it or not.
Either pay people to make new content or lose your viewership year on year. We can't be assed to continue discussing the same boring shit anymore. Not every board is /vp/.
Anybody feel like DC never touched Robin for so many years because they thought this would happen? They're doing Batgirl but I'm sure she's like in college which people are more interested in than if she was a high schooler.
2023 X-Men '97
2024 X-Force the Movie
2025-2026 X-Factor Survival of The Fittest
2027 Uncanny X-Men Galactic Storm crossover.
Start with what you got coming soonest, X-Men 97 relaunch and animation style charles in MOM. Then keep working in stuff left unresolved, x-23, New Mutants, specifically Anya Taylor Joy connecting direct-o-mundo to DEADPOOL COLOSSUS. Then, THEN lean in heavy to Brolin Cable's origin with Older FoX-Men Cyclops, Beast, Marvel Girl, with a ever slight direction of Archangel's blue shift, Beast's blue Shift, for the sequel(X-Factor). Have Kang, Moon Knight, Apocalypse, and some moon stuff into a sort of Uncanny X-Men Krakoa/Executioner's Song mash up. There you go, dont be too mad I did Kevin Fiege's job for him. Welcome to Walmart,I LoveYou.
they released it when the obi wan show is still airing. i'm not watching two disney+ things simultaneously. keep them staggered and they'll get better numbers.
i only hawkeye because it feels like a comfy superhero show. kamala is too kiddie for me to care and the other shows are too pretentious trying to tackle mature topics, but the netflix shows do it better.
>the MCU is over any day now >I swear, I'll stop watching any day now >dude, I'm serious, I'm gonna do it >I'm gonna stop watching >dude superheroes are for kids, why would I watch movies and TV shows about superheroes? >I've been watching the MCU for 30 years and I hate every single movie and TV show they've ever made >just bought my ticket for Avengers 10: Age of Khonshu
>Ezra "hide yo kids hide yo wife" Miller >Amber "poop in the bed" Heard >WB currently planning to murder baby Kal-El
I too eagerly await the properly executed live-action Justice League film in 2065.
the threads about the episodes are pretty positive, this is just a /misc/ bait thread
just like how there are dedicated fan bases on Cinemaphile for She-Ra, Owl House, and Kipo but there's always also a /misc/ bait thread running about them
The MCU lacked all of Kamala's prerequisites to work properly.
Although then again I believed Kamala SHOULD have be her own person instead of riding off the coattails of both Mar-Vell and the Inhumans.
Because it's kind of aimless and they can't reground things easily because they have some need to one up things.
We went from local or personal threats, to global threats, to universal threats, and now multiversal/ all reality encompassing threats.
They needed to scale things way down and relax for a while. Push street level shows like hawkeye, personal stories like wandavision, and not just jump feet first into constant threat ramp, so that the audiences would get into the groove of accepting some lower stakes threats again.
Instead it's timeline and multiverse nonsense for years on end.
I want to see the carry over numbers for episode 2.
It's the first MCU show I'm not gonna finish, and I know other people who felt the show was targeting younger demos very very hard, so I'm curious how it works out on retention.
Very disappointed they changed her powers to generic special effects junk.
Putting aside being too cheap to pay for Disney +, I have all of Wilson's Ms. Marvel run on my shelf and I have zero interest in this series. Partially because of the "quirkyness" of the cinematography, but also because it's just too steeped in MCU bullshit for me to care.
We were this close to live action GTS/growth and they picked gay lantern knockoff.
>WE WANT THE X-MEN ALREADY
No we don't.
I do but I know Marvel/Disney will frick it up somehow.
I actually want the Fantastic Four more than the X-Men.
>buh buh there's never been a good FF movie so obviously a good one can never ever be made by anyone
Shut up. Look, at the very least I want a based Ben and a nice Thing versus Hulk battle and a half decent Doctor Doom.
Then again, I know Marvel is unlikely to deliver on that, especially after seeing how they have treated Reed in Multiverse...
Do any Muslims even like her? She's like an insult to fundamentalists at least.
Are you a part of that human centipede of fece-eaters who hated Brian Cranston's Power Rangers even though it was good, and who act like Josh Trank's Akira/Power Rangers Fant4stic was NOT sabotaged, even though it obviously was sabatoged?
Both casts of Fantastic Four need to be brought back, the older ones as zombies and the younger ones as Ultimate Fantastic Four so Miles Teller can bank on Fan4stic hate as Evil Reed and so non-Trank Doom can throw Fan4stic Glowy Trank Doom into the negative zone after power harness draining his Akira powers. Gag! So many details!
>Brian Cranston's Power Rangers was good
Opinion duly discarded.
Except it was a lot of fun. I mean Saban sounds like Satan, so I can understand why you're programmed to ostracize but it was still very different and yet appropriately adapted to modern action movie standards.
But Josh Trank's Fan4stic was sabatoge, and the internal production sabatoge was as obvious as The Thing's lack of pants.
>Brian Cranston's Power Rangers even though it was good
Even when you ignore the aesthetic choices and the product placement littered through the film, if I'm watching a Power Rangers movie and instead of showing an actual combination sequence for the Megazord they just cut to it coming out of a dark cloud of smoke already combined, then I'm not watching a good Power Rangers movie.
the Brian Cranston POwer RAngers movie seems to want to pander to the fans and yet at the same time is ashamed of being a Power Rangers movie.
Which makes me want a "SHin Power Rangers" movie honestly. Something that has the good bits of Brian Cranston's movie, but with CGI that also pays homages to the old show by recontextualizing the old techniques like what Shin Ultraman did.
This isn't surprising those are people from the movies this is some literal who I don't know.
It's a hero without a big name and being a teenager show and her being Muslim (a no go for some) it's gonna hurt till people find a reason to watch. One show being a low point, not bad isn't gonna ruin the MCU
Iron Man 2 ruined the MCU
I watched trailer reactions to this show, and the response almost universally was
>This looks like kiddie shit, I'm not interested
coming from grown ass adults who unironically enjoy superheroes
people who know who Ms. Marvel is are largely happy with the show for getting the casting and characterization right, outside of the people upset about the power change
That just tells me how cringy this show is, when even the typical MCUtards turn their noses away.
>people who know who Ms. Marvel is are largely happy with the show for getting the casting and characterization right
Get fricked moron the characterization is nothing like the comics, or how it handles its themes. Go parret nonsense somewhere else.
I still like Ms. Marvel
Even when she raped Mike?
cushin' pushin'
>that panel
Fricking cringe
You think thats cringe? They had an whole orange man bad issue in 2016.
>issue encourages voting like cartoon medias did for decades
>hurr durr muh orange man feelings
I think Jan 6 did enough to show what some people thing really think about democracy.
>Guided tour was an affront to democracy.
Hysterical morons, all of you.
>mouth is a literal D: emoji
>a show about a literal who super powered teenage brown girl that they completely changed her powerset
wow who could have ever guessed that this would flop horribly
Hate to say I told ya so.
It's a no-name character compared to Wanda and Hawkeye, and still managed 800k viewers. That's really damn good.
LOOK LOOK PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT YOU ALSO HAVE TO NOT LIKE IT
>WE WANT THE X-MEN ALREADY
You already had them, and they were all utterly mogged by Marvel's resident moron, Deadpool. Even the X-Men's golden boy, Wolverine, did numbers comparable to Ant-Man of all characters.
>can't do inhumans because they fricked it up
>changed her powers for no reason
>cast a fat annoying b***h who can't act as Marvel
>turned Bruno into a simp within a single episode
>changed Ms Marvels character for no reason
>shoehorned in feminist ideals which were handled far better in comics, because the writers are hacks
>ignores muslim aspects of the story and how it effects her, or tones them down
>Marvels mother is a tone deaf moron who can't act
>plots completely changed because hollykyke writers don't have any respect for comics as a medium
>if Captain ever turns up it'll be Brie, who fricking sucks
>cheesy homosexual tier graphical effects everywhere because the creative hacks just copied Scott Pilgrim
WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY CURRY WIFE?
>changed her powers for no reason
Wait, what does she do now?
Green Lantern, but mudslime... and marlel comics
>changed her powers for no reason
Pretty sure it's because having Battletoads-style giant fists done realistically would be really offputting.
All new, all different MCU.
Let's be honest, if Hawkeye was only about kate Bishop, the same shit would've happened to a similar degree. People wanted to see the main Hawkeye.
Nobody gives a shit about MCU Hawkeye, bro. We watched that show because it looked fun.
Go woke go broke
Enough with the /misc/ shit.
>X-gays thinking they will turn things around when they were already bombing for fox
The cape bubble is collapsing and no one can save it
I don't want anything except for this garbage to crash and burn
Umm MCU sisters? What do we do now?
You guys should watch Peacemaker instead if you're tired of these MCU shitshows.
Derivative characters are not popular
They just have some loud online fans
More news at 11
>new hero
>given the feel of a teen targeted show
>is presented as a fan of a character that isn't a fan favorite
>going against star wars
>racial background might put people off
And that's just for the MCU casuals for the people that do know kamala
>changed her powers and the style of the story
>removed characters or changing their personality
>not using any of her more recognizable villains
>Kamala's popularity has slipped massively and struggles to hold down even a mini
You know shit is bad when her latest mini is about her teaming with more popular characters.
Probably because she sucks. Comic readers hated her and they aren't far from TV viewers in interest
>Comic readers hated her
Ms Marvel is one of the most popular new marvel characters in years. Sorry you don't like brown people, cope.
Briefly out the gate when the concept was still a novelty, then crashed and burned hard within two years.
>Ms Marvel is one of the most popular new marvel characters in years
She held steady at 30k sales for a little over a year, before a relaunch and Civil War 2 dropped her into cancelation numbers for the rest of her existence. Her team book and her solo book have both been cancelled and now she is forced to do a bunch of one-shots where she teams up with other characters to fight alternate universe versions of herself. Kamala is a failure.
would you also call Moon Knight a failure for not having good comic books between 1985 and and 2006?
would you call Doctor Strange a failure for not having a good comic book between 1997 and 2007?
capeshit is literally an endless cycle of good runs and bad runs
>kamala is super popular if you just ignore her comic sales, cancelled animated specials, and the fact that nobody is watching her mcu show
Whatever moron. Kamala is not, and will never be popular.
>>Hurr durr I'm moronic
Yeah no we didn't like her then and we don't now. Moon Knight wasn't even always cool, his shit was in the 50¢ bin for years. Her shit started there and will end there. Cope, lather, and seethe
Now run the numbers accounting for 100,000 libraries staffed by Twitter-using “inclusive” dipshit c**ts who made sure to buy ten copies at full cover price
I like her. I'm not crazy that they turned her in to purple lantern though.
This is my theory so far.
Basically at the end of Shang-Chi, it sent out that signal.
My bet is that it sent out a ping to the Phoenix Force.
The Phoenix Force will then inhabit Jean Gray, which will bring the mutants who has been in hiding into public attention.
The X-Men will be trying to contain the Phoenix Force while trying to also save Jean, while the Avengers will be trying to stop Jean by any means possible.
This will mean the X-Men and Avengers will be fighting, until they decide to work together to either expel the Phoenix Force from Jean, or at least expel it from her and it fricks off to another solar system or something.
Another attempt to do Dark Phoenix would be hilarious
NOrmalgays are expecting it so it'll probably happen.
The signal is for Fing Fang Foom
It's a race to the bottom with DC and Marvel now. Just like the comics!
>dude nobody knows Kamala, she hasn't been in anything
Just because she's been shoved into stuff doesn't mean people care about her. That game flopped so hard Square Enix sold off the Eidos studios. No one even remembers the Marvel Rising shit either.
Unironic kino, aside from making her ugly as frick.
Her hands just look big rather than closer to the camera.
The MCU brand lifting literally who characters is over. Wasn't Disney planning on making a show based on some extra obscure Asian girl?
>leave Phase 4 to me
I honestly can't believe they released the trailer in that state.
I can. Marvel has been getting by with absolute dogshit CGI for years but nobody wants to admit it
I prefer to call it Jurassic Park 1 style CGI.
They're source is "SambaTV" who does not say how they got these viewership numbers since Disney hasn't released them.
Nobody cares anymore. Reboots of all kinds will be out the door as well in about six months, whether the industry wants to continue banking on it or not.
Either pay people to make new content or lose your viewership year on year. We can't be assed to continue discussing the same boring shit anymore. Not every board is /vp/.
These shows are mid in general. not shocked.
kek more people still watch cnn
Why haven't they announced her show yet?
No thanks. I'd rather Gwen be completely forgotten before Marvel butchers her more than they already have.
All they could do with her is adapt Hasting's run. There's nothing else to draw from after that.
Please. Let it somehow die.
lol
>5 days
So it did worse than Peacemaker even. This character seems to fail in everything they put her in. That Avengers game was a huge flop
She didn't help that game in the slightest but she's not the main reason why it failed so spectacularly
God all the wasted manhours on that fricking game because business suits think they're game designers
Anybody feel like DC never touched Robin for so many years because they thought this would happen? They're doing Batgirl but I'm sure she's like in college which people are more interested in than if she was a high schooler.
2023 X-Men '97
2024 X-Force the Movie
2025-2026 X-Factor Survival of The Fittest
2027 Uncanny X-Men Galactic Storm crossover.
Start with what you got coming soonest, X-Men 97 relaunch and animation style charles in MOM. Then keep working in stuff left unresolved, x-23, New Mutants, specifically Anya Taylor Joy connecting direct-o-mundo to DEADPOOL COLOSSUS. Then, THEN lean in heavy to Brolin Cable's origin with Older FoX-Men Cyclops, Beast, Marvel Girl, with a ever slight direction of Archangel's blue shift, Beast's blue Shift, for the sequel(X-Factor). Have Kang, Moon Knight, Apocalypse, and some moon stuff into a sort of Uncanny X-Men Krakoa/Executioner's Song mash up. There you go, dont be too mad I did Kevin Fiege's job for him. Welcome to Walmart,I LoveYou.
We do?
they released it when the obi wan show is still airing. i'm not watching two disney+ things simultaneously. keep them staggered and they'll get better numbers.
Ms. Marvel premiered already?
Thanks Kevin.
Why are they trying to keep the terrible mohawk helmet alive?
I don’t even think Carol uses it much anymore. Tho I kinda like it sometimes depending on the artist.
all the MCU shows suck ass except WandaVision (which ended on a disappointing note), I'm not gonna bother giving another one a shot
i only hawkeye because it feels like a comfy superhero show. kamala is too kiddie for me to care and the other shows are too pretentious trying to tackle mature topics, but the netflix shows do it better.
Bad week for disney.
endgame really was the endgame for the mcu
>the MCU is over any day now
>I swear, I'll stop watching any day now
>dude, I'm serious, I'm gonna do it
>I'm gonna stop watching
>dude superheroes are for kids, why would I watch movies and TV shows about superheroes?
>I've been watching the MCU for 30 years and I hate every single movie and TV show they've ever made
>just bought my ticket for Avengers 10: Age of Khonshu
Every genre fad of films has ended up sooner or later. None has lasted forever. This will be no exception.
It'll all go down when DC finally launches their proper Justice League lineup.
>Ezra "hide yo kids hide yo wife" Miller
>Amber "poop in the bed" Heard
>WB currently planning to murder baby Kal-El
I too eagerly await the properly executed live-action Justice League film in 2065.
I never said any of that
The MCU ended with the first Avengers.
It looked like a Disney channel sitcom for tweens. Why the frick would I watch this shit ?
Cinemaphile doesnt like a show whos target demographic is teen girls, whoathink
within its target demographic its got ground breaking numbers
the threads about the episodes are pretty positive, this is just a /misc/ bait thread
just like how there are dedicated fan bases on Cinemaphile for She-Ra, Owl House, and Kipo but there's always also a /misc/ bait thread running about them
Ms. Marvel is the best MCU series so far.
Sorry Cinemaphile, you guys definitely lost on this one. Try to take the L gracefully.
Would Kamala's story work if you had aged her up to college age like Bishop?
>stars a Muslim character
>bombs
>She ends up going on a bombing campaign with her girlfriends, they all proceed to get picked off by police as their attempt fails miserably.
MSheU strikes again.
The MCU lacked all of Kamala's prerequisites to work properly.
Although then again I believed Kamala SHOULD have be her own person instead of riding off the coattails of both Mar-Vell and the Inhumans.
It's not like Marvel can even bring this to China
Muslims and blacks are no nos
Why is phase 4 so divisive bros?
Because it's kind of aimless and they can't reground things easily because they have some need to one up things.
We went from local or personal threats, to global threats, to universal threats, and now multiversal/ all reality encompassing threats.
They needed to scale things way down and relax for a while. Push street level shows like hawkeye, personal stories like wandavision, and not just jump feet first into constant threat ramp, so that the audiences would get into the groove of accepting some lower stakes threats again.
Instead it's timeline and multiverse nonsense for years on end.
>Finally get decent fun series
>It fails
>decent
bruh episode 2 was absolute boring garbage
I want to see the carry over numbers for episode 2.
It's the first MCU show I'm not gonna finish, and I know other people who felt the show was targeting younger demos very very hard, so I'm curious how it works out on retention.
Very disappointed they changed her powers to generic special effects junk.
Putting aside being too cheap to pay for Disney +, I have all of Wilson's Ms. Marvel run on my shelf and I have zero interest in this series. Partially because of the "quirkyness" of the cinematography, but also because it's just too steeped in MCU bullshit for me to care.