The MCU just keeps getting dumber
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This sounds absolutely awful and so I believe it
I really hate the multiverse
You should thank Rick and Morty
No I shouldn't, that show died around its 4th season.
2017 for me after the atrocity that was the 3rd season. That fat frick harmon had the balls to shit on the fanbase, frick him.
So why is the "multiverse" being used as a tool for poor writing decisions?
It's a crutch used by shitty writers. Idk who is telling them audiences still care about this trope
>Idk who is telling them audiences still care about this trope
audiences only caring about sequels/remakes/reboots of old things, that's why there's been so much multiverse shit lately
First, fricking hell why is this board so moronic, Jesus frick. Another mutherfricking twitter thread, and not only that, a twatter thread by some literally who.
The "multiverse" is a thing that already existed in comics, at least pretend that you read this shit.
The whole point of the extended a cinematic universe (and the multiverse by extension) is to link things together simply to work as ads for other works and therefore get more people to buy comics (later watch movies). It works until it doesn't, but like any free money scheme that worked once, you get people beating the dead horse in the hope of cashing out.
This is why allowing Cinemaphile here was the original and final nail in Cinemaphile's coffin.
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The MCU just keeps getting dumber(OP)
>First, fricking hell why is this board so moronic, Jesus frick. Another mutherfricking twitter thread, and not only that, a twatter thread by some literally who.
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audiences only caring about sequels/remakes/reboots of old things, that's why there's been so much multiverse shit lately
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> The "multiverse" is a thing that already existed in comics, at least pretend that you read this shit.
> The whole point of the extended a cinematic universe (and the multiverse by extension) is to link things together simply to work as ads for other works and therefore get more people to buy comics (later watch movies). It works until it doesn't, but like any free money scheme that worked once, you get people beating the dead horse in the hope of cashing out.
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> This is why allowing Cinemaphile here was the original and final nail in Cinemaphile's coffin.
The anon you quoted is more insightful than you will ever be, and is a better participant in Cinemaphile. But board culture doesn't matter to you. I need you to quote my post with a Wojak now so I can get hard and cum. SAY THE LINE, BART. WHERE'S MY WOJAK, I CAN'T ENJOY THIS POST WITHOUT MY WOJAK!
frick off to reddit, soijack
I wasn't denying the multiverse didn't exist in comics you fricking moron, at least read what you reply to before you get on your high horse.
It really isn't, at least not directly. "Multiverse" is basically another way to say "like our Earth, but our Earth doesn't have mutants and it'd be really weird for them to suddenly appear or for them to always have been there, so they're on that Earth and not this one." Which is fine in theory, the problem is post-Endgame all writing shit the bed so instead of it being like going to another planet it's incredibly stupid shit like "Scarlet Witch has an infinite multiverse but can't find one where her kids are alive but she's dead".
Well the smart thing to do with it was recast the beloved roles with far younger actors and link 2 beloved franchises (mcu,x men)
Well the ran in the oppsite way with it
This is frankly one of the dumbest things they could have gone with, connects to an ideology some people have, but it's moronic
Yes.
because not even morons on Cinemaphile have better ideas. like an outsider seeing a losing fighter and asking why he doesnt just punch harder
>So why is the "multiverse" being used as a tool for poor writing decisions?
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Didn't Peter die for 5 years?
Exactly... The writers wrote themselves to the fricking wall again. Uh oh, we fricked up!
They don't care.
Peter coming back was a canon event.
>canon
>disney
Pedro playing Maker will turn people off from him completely
Good, I hope Marvel loses all their profits.
the universe doesn't see the future. if it did, it would end immediately because it already knows he eventually dies.
Of course it's sequelbait
This "the universe has 1 chosen hero, and it's spider-man" thing sounds like a telephone game corruption of the previous leaks that said
>Every hero has a "prime" version somewhere in the multiverse that the TVA has designated as the one they want to recruit. Holland is the prime version of Spider-Man, and Jackman and Reynolds are the prime Wolverine and Deadpool
>the best wolverine is the tall one
Sounds reasonable.
Why does everything Mouse related summon the most unhinged of autistic schizos?
da jooz
What else would it be? Anything that could be tangentially related to israelites gets the /misc/ schizos frothing at the mouth
jews are legit cancer so sick of their shit
If you mean its institution, then I wholeheartedly agree.
Because the high water mark was The Avengers? Because that was the smartest film ever? Why are you people suddenly acting like you have standards? You've all watched all 35 films so far, so why wouldn't you watch this?
i didn't watch them all, and people need to stop spending money on trash or it begets more trash
You feel less autistic now?
So what if they die of old age
shit b8 m8
not that it matters on Cinemaphile
So into the spiderverse rules but even worse! If they just keep raising the stakes every movie people will surely care about their movies
It's like they saw spider-verse and wanted to make a concept even more moronic than canon events
...eh?
Didn't Holland-Man die in Infinity War? Like what does "the universe dies if the chosen hero also dies" mean in a practical sense? I mean, I get that they make shit up as they go, but this feels like they're taking the piss. How do characters in the setting determine who is the "chosen hero"? Can Nurse Normal determine that, for example? What does it mean for the stakes involving lesser villains?
A concept like this *could* work, but given the absolute state of the modern MCU, I don't have any faith in the writers doing the concept justice.
You're not making any sense. No one said anything about anyone figuring out who the chosen one is you idiot stupid.
>didn't Tom Holland die
Literally who cares?
You know what would make sense? One Above All or Living Tribunal being that sole figure in all multiverses. Not fricking Spider-Man.
Who?
How does that not make sense? Because you don't know what you're talking about and have not even seen the spider-man movies.
Why didn't the MCU end when he got snapped away then?
So it's the Molecule Man thing without Molecule Man?
It'll be a woman.
No, it will be a capitalist pig.
>there's a chosen one that is the lynchpin to the universe not dying
>but ignore everything damn near universe-ending that happened before they did anything important, like half of the universe eating shit, along with said "chosen one," because those didn't count
Man, they really are just reaching for anything at this point.
mcu gradually becoming kingdom hearts
No, Kingdom Hearts is actually interesting.
lmfao
i said interesting, not good
I don't think anything is as convoluted or involved as Kingdom Hearts when trying to figure out what the frick is going on.
Don't lie, the MCU going full moron doesn't excuse Kingdom Hearts being moronic.
that's why I said gradually
>or involved
You're a moron and deserve to die, for the good of humanity. You think that you can just decide that something makes sense if you make up enough bullshit headcanons and pretend that they're real even if the games contradict it? Frick you moron. You will never figure out kingdom hearts, because it's not possible. We all know what you mean by being "involved". You mean wasting your fricking life and coming up with lies because you can't accept that we don't know things that we don't know. You were unable to even FATHOM that possibility! You ever even thought of it! DIE!
It's a Japanese-American venture, that's all it really was.
Kingdom Hearts is schizo kino thoughbeit
Soon they'll be the same thing
>Kingdom Hearts being moronic
That's what makes it fun.
It was always THIS stupid. You're just moron for realizing it just now.
What about the 5 years that he was erased from existence? What about the fact that Tom Holland keeps suggesting that he's done soon and wants the character to get his position cucked by Miles?
YASS MORE WIBBLY WOBBLY MULTIVERSE SLOL
Makes sense actually, if the main character dies in a story there's nothing else to write about unless you're going to focus on a new protagonist.
So the hero dies, whoever is writing the story no longer has interest in continuing that universe, the universe dies. All existence is tied to the story that universe's writer wants to tell. So you kill the main character, you kill that character's reality.
Just hope whoever the main character or the group of people who are the main characters of our reality never meet their end or we could end the same. Possibly near the end of this year, where they say future sight machines cannot penetrate.
Raping Miles' mom won't fix your own universe, Miguel
Still worth a shot don'cha think?
this is so they can easily kill off the multiverse, right?
Oh God they're making the gay ass Spiderverse shit canon. I swear to God that was the worst part of the money they better not.
I've always suspected it was derivative, despite the stellar art direction.
>shill pretending to be a troll for fun
It's not fun. how is it fun to you?
Me? Shilling Spider-Shart? KEK
You literally just fricking did.
It's being toned down to be family friendly.
Isn't this the same concept as Mile's second movie? that spiderman needs to go through a traumatic even otherwise the universe implodes? now its basically if spiderman dies the universe implodes
Nope. Spider-verse concept is that certain things are canon events and must happen for the stability of the universe. Death of a particular does not result in the universe imploding upon itself.
It sounds like an excuse to double down on and reinforce obsolete tropes
Spiderverse bypasses this shit by stating that Madame Web or whatever sends some spider to start another Spider person to replace the olde Spider Person because THIS IS GAY THIS ENTIRE CANON EVENT SHIT MAIN SUPERHERO CANNOT DIE SHIT IS GAY IT'S SO FRICKING GAY JUST MAKE THE MULTIVERSE A MINOR DETAIL FRICK.
Congratulations to the MCU for being almost as moronic as 616. The MCU is going to surpass 616 in overall moronness once they introduce X-men and mutant hate drama.
>Universe exists for a gorillion years before character is born
>Character dies of old age
>Entire universe implodes
????????
i thought the universe started with iron man
It did, because paramount.
Doomsday Clock did something similar with Superman.
The difference is, if I remember correctly, was that the universe was crafted around Superman and you could kill Superman, the universe will always make sure Superman exists.
It was the one good thing in that shit book.
It also explained that all you need to defeat Dr. Manhattan is imply his own existence is meaningless
they're saying that each universe, at any particular point in time, has a hero that dooms the universe if they die.
The problem with that is... spiderman died and the universe stayed
What a cheap writing tactic; Feels like a rehash of a rehash of a rehash.
it's probably just meta commentary about how first you hate the xmen movies, but then once the spiderman movies came out, the xmen did poorly, and then once the MCU came out, the spiderman ones did poorly, until they MCU spiderman, etc
Meta commentary is maybe worse that anything marketing related. Especially if it makes some self-absorbed people believe that being a comic-movie is part of the in-universe story. Hated how they used a literary term like "canon" in the spiderverse movies.
So the universe always picks some homosexual in one of the most dangerous professions imaginable to be the killswitch for all creation? A mortal being that has a finite amount of time regardless of how their life plays out? They've already played out the TVA, is there a whole other subsection of time jannies who go around ensuring the Chosen Hero is never born so they can never threaten all life by existing? Are we going to be lectured about how one random butthole deserves to exist for 80 or 90 years even though they objectively take everyone and everything with them when they go?
This sounds like in-universe copyright law.
It sounds like setting up the framework for Maker Reed
>Universes aren't destroyed, they just get dumped into a mega-universe when their time is up
>has the ugliest image ever made with a nintendo/kingdom hearts character making stupid ooc faces that not even babies would find funny
What is the word for this kind of freak? There are several of them. Also
>can't understand a simple fricking sentence
>thinks that no one will understand it and it will be "relatable" to post said image
Freaks like this need to be punished.
Are you having a seizure?
see
>if a chosen hero of a universe dies, the universe dies
>the mcu literally died after his death
Incredible, I can't believe it.
Holy shit.
WAIT NO NO I GOT "ASTRO" AS A RARE CAPTCHA AND DIDN'T SCREENSHOT IT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You sure it wasn't "Astr0"
Nah, take it further, we need characters who are Singularity Points, where they exist outside of time itself
Wow, I love Gary Stus and Mary Stus who lack any personality traits whatsoever.
Ryotaro Nogami is hardly lacking in personality
>shonenshit
Opinion disregarded
nah its better then western shit
It's just meta bullshit to justify why certain characters are marketed more heavily than others and are considered essential to a universe's stability or survival or whatever horseshit excuse they use, the two most notable examples are Batman and Superman who are basically treated as universal constants integral to the functioning of the universe..
JUST STOP!! Like who are these moronic movies aimed at?
The lowest common denominator.
THEY'RE AIMED AT ME!
>JUST STOP!! Like who are these moronic movies aimed at?
KEEP GOING!!! We need these moronic movies to keep crashing and burning
then what happens when the hero dies of old age. this is dumb
Universe will create a new version through the law of attraction
Then the story is over you piece of shit! What the frick is wrong with you! Commit suicide PLEASE!
the universe doesn't end when the scarlet witch dies.
Nexus beings are irrelevant in the comics.
I want Deadpool to frick up the MCU so bad they have to reboot it.
Good, Ryan Reynolds is a corporate shill.
I think we need Owl Man more than ever Now
How about Darkwing Duck?
It don't matter. None of this matters.
Thanks for explaining how multishit is nothing more than an excuse to sell more products.
so if peter dies of old age, the universe just fricking ends? Shouldn't it have ended when he got snapped and was removed from existence?
You're not thinking fourth-dimensionally.
Why are there so many people just posting stupid things constantly? I just don't understand! The story was not over yet! How can the universe be gone when his story is just beginning?
stupid fricking idea
They really didn't think about the implications of this at all. Lmao
Because this means that universes should only exist for, at max, 100 years. Chosen ones are gonna die of old age, eventually. And if you further extrapolate, how can there even be a past before the birth of the chosen one if that universe's existence relies on the chosen one being alive? Its a paradox.
Also, this retroactively makes Kang a giga-moron. The homie enacted this big plan to prune alternate timelines and shit... but it seems the universes just commit seppuku anyways. All that shit in Loki was pointless.
Its so dumb.
I hope its real.
The forced "comedy" was even worse.
Isn't this just the Molecule Man plot from Hackman's SW?
>chosen one of the mcu
That was already a thing. Tony Stark chose him to be the only one allowed to use his tech(except for war machine who can only use one suit and doesn't even know how it works and can't upgrade it) and to basically replace him. It's even said that Tony wouldn't have sacrificed himself if he didn't know spider-man was going to be there when he's gone. And Spider-man was the whole reason why Tony invented time travel and saved the universe. And keep in mind, tony didn't just give him access to tech, he gave him everything. With edith Tom could access the whole entire company and stuff. And of course he doesn't even need edith because he can just ask Happy(which he can still do btw). And just like, watch the movies you can tell he's supposed to be the chosen one.
>muh chosen one
What is the point of this post you just posted?
Anon's probably implying that Chosen One stories are fricking moronic. It's one thing to say "this individual is a very influential individual that can contribute heavily to how events proceed" and "you are THE ordained one, the survival of an entire fricking universe hinges on your existence, some shitbird in the ass end of the Milky Way, don't eat anything dodgy or drink and drive or whatever."
Go away troll shill. You're going to hell for wasting your life being an butthole to people for no reason. Pretending to be a moron to frick with people and waste their time to try to get them to explain obvious shit to you is not funny. Kys.
Take your meds, schizoid
Projection, much?
>They're STILL trying to make multiverse shit important the whole of the franchise
For fricks sakes, just find a new gimmick. Nobody wants "muh multiverses" anymore, Spider-verse is the exception but everything else crashed and burned.
sorry bro, this is the multiverse phase
every movie has to touch on the multiverse in a new and different way
>new
>different
That's bullshit.
Isn't this just a meta concept? I mean of course if the hero dies the series ends.
>Ant-Man and family beat Kang, a multiversal tier threat
>They are not the chosen ones, they simply are THAT good
Holy based ANTS
Antz is better.
Pym People are just that OP
tbf they beat 1 Kang that all the other Kangs thought was a c**t so they took his stuff
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAT WITH IT
That is fricking stupid
Didn’t Sony say that they want Miles to replace Peter Parker?
How are they going to happen if Peter can never die?
peter becomes iron man and hands the spider title to miles
Tom Holland doesn’t want to be in the MCU anymore and wants to be killed off
no
>Didn’t Sony say that they want Miles to replace Peter Parker?
Some tard who worked at Insomniac said that, and they are already getting ugly looks from the higher ups for failling to meet expectations with the last title
I don´t feel so good, MCU.
Is Marvel trying to steal Crisis on Infinite Earths?
this is such a moronic concept. just end this multiverse shit
>You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them! Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!
So what killed the MCU? I feel like the instant they introduced the multiverse, everything just went to shit.
COVID, writers strike, Boseman’s death and Majors’ arrest. They can get through it, but that was a lot of obstacles to have to re-write around.
>the moronic concepts made by 40 year old writers that made comics only hip for 30-50 year old losers are transpiring to the cinema
no wonder everyone but manchildren are jumping the boat on capeshit movies.
What's with these shitty plotholes?
Like I get having a few in a product for meaningless entertainment, but gosh darn these people writing have become moronic. From the top of my head
>Venom knowing about Peter Parker
>Elektro outright saying he didn't know who was behind the mask
This
>a Universe dies when this character dies
could've worked before the MCU was established, when we only had solo movies. But even then it'd have been extremely shitty and meta, even for a late 2000s Deadpool.
Fake and gay. Spiderman died once already, and the universe was fine
So Wade is his universe's chosen hero, and he goes to the end of time.to save his "family" when they get purged after he is removed from it?
Multiverse & Time Travel
The terrible writers solution to all their problems.
Multiverse bs peaked with that movie with the 3 Spider-Mans. You can't beat that, there is nothing you can do.
The only multiverse kino they could do is Cage, Snipes, and Jane as midnight sons
That sounds like bullshit considering that Spider-man was dead for 5 years and the universe went on without him just fine.
No, in the comics a Nexus Being is someone who has an iteration of themselves in EVERY single AU in the entire multiverse. The MCU seems to have set America Chavez up as the opposite of this, a multiversal singularity, there's just the one of her.
No, there's just one of her in every AU. Franklin Richards, Odin, Vision, Phoenix and Kang were also established as Nexus Beings.
Sadly true, nobody's really addressed the concept in comics since the early 90s.
Wasn't something like this in Spiderverse 2?
Wait, so officially the MCU's prime universe is so racist it would rather cease to exist than allow Miles to pick up the Spider-Man mantle like originally happened in the 1610?