>I-is that . . . a black guy in Star Wars?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME LUCAS!
troony
it died with Phantom Menace and the Special Editions, sequel trilogy was like an attempt at some Dr. Frankenstein shit
the ultimate truth
I don't understand how any so called Star Wars fan could claim that the mere appearance of a black character onscreen killed Star Wars when one of the most loved and well known characters in the franchise is black.
The franchise died with Phantom Menace and any other answer is just wrong.
Lando is cool but you're gay
Seeing John Boyega for the first time in The Force Awakens was the shock of my life.
I was so hyped for the sequel trilogy that I cagily avoided all marketing materials, all trailers, and all commercials. If I walked by a toy aisle at the store and caught a small glimpse of a vehicle or stormtrooper, I'd look away immediately. I wanted to go into the new era of Star Wars with an entirely open mind, as pure as an Amish virgin. On opening night I knew there was a brown-haired female protagonist (that much was hard to avoid, even though I shielded my eyes), but little else. I didn't even know which classic characters were returning.
When Boyega first took off that helmet and revealed himself to the theater, I let out an audible gasp. My entire row of filmgoers looked at me like I was nuts, but I couldn't help myself. There before me was the most Simian creature I'd ever seen in a galaxy far, far away. An intergalactic gorilla with huge flaring Black person nostrils and big Nigerian chieftain lips.
Oftentimes film studios will soften the blow by casting Billy Dee Williams or Will Smith... but not this time. This time you were forced to feast your eyes on a pure-blooded coal black silverback Black person, blown up forty feet high on an IMAX screen.
I looked around, uncomprehendingly, as the rest of the crowd seemed to accept this monstrosity as a regular matter of course. Then it occurred to me that I was the only person who hadn't already seen months' worth of marketing materials.
Little by little, they had been led to accept this by drips and drabs of commercials, trailers, and TV interviews. Their minds had been so softened that they were willing to stare unflinchingly, even giggle and smile at the Black folkhines, as MegaBlack person (missing only a bone in his nose) besmirched the galaxy.
Lots of people debate about the exact moment when Star Wars died. I contend it was when that minstrel-looking sweaty jigaboo removed his helmet and revealed his Lovecraftian face.
>tryhard hipster gay
there is no point in keep making new star wars movies
the whole universe and the characters can't be separeted
you can't make a new trilogy with new characters, you have to invent a different universe
at that point call it something else, call it space battles i dont care
ESB and ROJ were already flawed movies because their characters arcs were already completed and star wars got their inspiration from a lot of diferrent movies. there's nothing of that in the subsequent movies and if they do they feel out of place. vader being lukes father was the stupidest decision ever but what else can you do to get people to go see your inferior movie? yoda and john williams music was ok but cant save a bad story
His character arguably had the most interesting premise imo, stormtrooper turned rebel with all his squad mates calling traitor and all that comes along with that, instead of doing anything with it they just turned him into a comic relief side character
this >defect because your fellow grunt brother in arms dies dramatically on top of you >smears his blood in your visor with his last gasp and movement >doesn't tell Poe to disarm them nonlethally as they escape >WOOO DID YOU SEE ME BLAST MY OWN GUYS WOOO
he could have been the most kino SW character in 40 years but the lack of any realistic motivation or tone as a result of being written by committee ruined it. Then TLJ opens with him pissing himself in a bubble suit.
It all boils down to Rian Johnson leaving his steaming turd of a midway point in the trilogy, any competent writer would have fully utilised Fin's backstory for the B-plot but nope we got a casino planet nothingfest that made the prequels look like shakespeare in comparison
It's Kathleen Kennedy and Disney's fault for not polishing a script for all three movies years in advance. How could they frick up one of their most profitable franchises ever? The incompetence is still astounding.
What's worse is JJ did originally had scripts for all 3 movies before production on episode 7 even begun, say what you want about TFA but at least it was enjoyable in comparison to the two movies that came after
But Kathleen Kennedy decided to give full creative control to someone who then decided to throw those out the window and rewrite the movie completely fricking over whoever had to direct episode 9
>What's worse is JJ did originally had scripts for all 3 movies before production on episode 7 even begun,
no he literally did not
2 years ago
Anonymous
He didn't have full scripts, he had notes and outlines though, which Rian Johnson threw in the trash. The original idea has been pieced together for a while now.
>Snoke was Plagueis >Rey was a student at the jedi temple that was destroyed >Rey was Luke's daughter >Rey's Mom/Luke's wife was killed >Luke wiped Rey's memory and sent her to Jakku for her own safety >He went to the jedi planet to level up for his eventual fight against Plageuis >2nd movie was supposed to end with Luke BTFO'ing the knights of Ren
2 years ago
Anonymous
oh wow so he went from 3 full scripts to half a dozen notes
funny backtrack bruh really
you might have set a record there you bullshitting midwitted homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just google it, moron.
Granted though that different people say different things about it. But one of the stories is that JJ had notes and suggestions but Rian just threw them all out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so you are totally just making shit up then
got it
you stupid frick
I've seen some of his interviews and it seemed like he genuinely cared up until TLJ, afterwards every actor and even JJ Abrams seemed to give up on it completely and didn't even pretend to be excited about the movie
Even if he cared the movie was still shit and he was bad in it. He seems conflicted for like a minute at the beginning and then he easily turns on his old comrades without a hint of hesitation or remorse. Really interesting premise for a character (exploring the humanity of Storm Troopers) that wasn't utilized at all for some reason.
>His character arguably had the most interesting premise imo
Anything good about the premise disappeared the moment the script was starting to be written.
He hates Rian Johnson for some reason but that is the movie where he is portrayed the most seriously. He has an entire B plot that is dedicated to him and probably gets as much screen time as Daisy Ridley. I can't even remember a thing he did in TROS
I don't understand how any so called Star Wars fan could claim that the mere appearance of a black character onscreen killed Star Wars when one of the most loved and well known characters in the franchise is black.
The franchise died with Phantom Menace and any other answer is just wrong.
It really is spectacular how they burned all the goodwill of the franchise in this trilogy.
I remember calling my autistic uncle when the Last Jedi came out. Full on room of his house dedicated to Star Wars merchandise autistic, to the point of owning arcade and pinball machines.
Of the Last Jedi, he said "It was like the director had never seen a Star Wars movie before."
Still haven't seen it or Episode 9.
Seeing John Boyega for the first time in The Force Awakens was the shock of my life.
I was so hyped for the sequel trilogy that I cagily avoided all marketing materials, all trailers, and all commercials. If I walked by a toy aisle at the store and caught a small glimpse of a vehicle or stormtrooper, I'd look away immediately. I wanted to go into the new era of Star Wars with an entirely open mind, as pure as an Amish virgin. On opening night I knew there was a brown-haired female protagonist (that much was hard to avoid, even though I shielded my eyes), but little else. I didn't even know which classic characters were returning.
When Boyega first took off that helmet and revealed himself to the theater, I let out an audible gasp. My entire row of filmgoers looked at me like I was nuts, but I couldn't help myself. There before me was the most Simian creature I'd ever seen in a galaxy far, far away. An intergalactic gorilla with huge flaring Black person nostrils and big Nigerian chieftain lips.
Oftentimes film studios will soften the blow by casting Billy Dee Williams or Will Smith... but not this time. This time you were forced to feast your eyes on a pure-blooded coal black silverback Black person, blown up forty feet high on an IMAX screen.
I looked around, uncomprehendingly, as the rest of the crowd seemed to accept this monstrosity as a regular matter of course. Then it occurred to me that I was the only person who hadn't already seen months' worth of marketing materials.
Little by little, they had been led to accept this by drips and drabs of commercials, trailers, and TV interviews. Their minds had been so softened that they were willing to stare unflinchingly, even giggle and smile at the Black folkhines, as MegaBlack person (missing only a bone in his nose) besmirched the galaxy.
Lots of people debate about the exact moment when Star Wars died. I contend it was when that minstrel-looking sweaty jigaboo removed his helmet and revealed his Lovecraftian face.
That's not the scene where Jabba appears in docking bay 94
true
tryhard hipster gay
troony
the ultimate truth
Lando is cool but you're gay
based
>tryhard hipster gay
there is no point in keep making new star wars movies
the whole universe and the characters can't be separeted
you can't make a new trilogy with new characters, you have to invent a different universe
at that point call it something else, call it space battles i dont care
ESB and ROJ were already flawed movies because their characters arcs were already completed and star wars got their inspiration from a lot of diferrent movies. there's nothing of that in the subsequent movies and if they do they feel out of place. vader being lukes father was the stupidest decision ever but what else can you do to get people to go see your inferior movie? yoda and john williams music was ok but cant save a bad story
inb4 tldr
go watch better movies
that's not empire strikes back
God I hate this c**t so much
>I-is that . . . a black guy in Star Wars?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME LUCAS!
Literally true
His character arguably had the most interesting premise imo, stormtrooper turned rebel with all his squad mates calling traitor and all that comes along with that, instead of doing anything with it they just turned him into a comic relief side character
Black person lover
this
>defect because your fellow grunt brother in arms dies dramatically on top of you
>smears his blood in your visor with his last gasp and movement
>doesn't tell Poe to disarm them nonlethally as they escape
>WOOO DID YOU SEE ME BLAST MY OWN GUYS WOOO
he could have been the most kino SW character in 40 years but the lack of any realistic motivation or tone as a result of being written by committee ruined it. Then TLJ opens with him pissing himself in a bubble suit.
It all boils down to Rian Johnson leaving his steaming turd of a midway point in the trilogy, any competent writer would have fully utilised Fin's backstory for the B-plot but nope we got a casino planet nothingfest that made the prequels look like shakespeare in comparison
>It all boils down to Rian Johnson
dude the character sucked shit from the begining of the script for 7 and the casting of boyega
It's Kathleen Kennedy and Disney's fault for not polishing a script for all three movies years in advance. How could they frick up one of their most profitable franchises ever? The incompetence is still astounding.
What's worse is JJ did originally had scripts for all 3 movies before production on episode 7 even begun, say what you want about TFA but at least it was enjoyable in comparison to the two movies that came after
But Kathleen Kennedy decided to give full creative control to someone who then decided to throw those out the window and rewrite the movie completely fricking over whoever had to direct episode 9
>What's worse is JJ did originally had scripts for all 3 movies before production on episode 7 even begun,
no he literally did not
He didn't have full scripts, he had notes and outlines though, which Rian Johnson threw in the trash. The original idea has been pieced together for a while now.
>Snoke was Plagueis
>Rey was a student at the jedi temple that was destroyed
>Rey was Luke's daughter
>Rey's Mom/Luke's wife was killed
>Luke wiped Rey's memory and sent her to Jakku for her own safety
>He went to the jedi planet to level up for his eventual fight against Plageuis
>2nd movie was supposed to end with Luke BTFO'ing the knights of Ren
oh wow so he went from 3 full scripts to half a dozen notes
funny backtrack bruh really
you might have set a record there you bullshitting midwitted homosexual
Just google it, moron.
Granted though that different people say different things about it. But one of the stories is that JJ had notes and suggestions but Rian just threw them all out.
so you are totally just making shit up then
got it
you stupid frick
In theory, yes. In practice, no. Because Boyega sucks at portraying that character.
I've seen some of his interviews and it seemed like he genuinely cared up until TLJ, afterwards every actor and even JJ Abrams seemed to give up on it completely and didn't even pretend to be excited about the movie
another Black person apologist. Stop posting this reddit tier “analysis” in order to make excuses for that ugly and terrible actor.
Even if he cared the movie was still shit and he was bad in it. He seems conflicted for like a minute at the beginning and then he easily turns on his old comrades without a hint of hesitation or remorse. Really interesting premise for a character (exploring the humanity of Storm Troopers) that wasn't utilized at all for some reason.
>His character arguably had the most interesting premise imo
Anything good about the premise disappeared the moment the script was starting to be written.
stop trying to force Black person characters. simple as. lando still sucks and doesnt actually seem like hans old friend
He hates Rian Johnson for some reason but that is the movie where he is portrayed the most seriously. He has an entire B plot that is dedicated to him and probably gets as much screen time as Daisy Ridley. I can't even remember a thing he did in TROS
>admitting to having watched nu-wars
it died with Phantom Menace and the Special Editions, sequel trilogy was like an attempt at some Dr. Frankenstein shit
Lucas was just as bad as Disney. Minus the woke.
I don't understand how any so called Star Wars fan could claim that the mere appearance of a black character onscreen killed Star Wars when one of the most loved and well known characters in the franchise is black.
The franchise died with Phantom Menace and any other answer is just wrong.
Lando had charisma and decent looks. Finn was obnoxious and the actor looks grotesque. Differences.
Lando is a well-acted character with personal motivations and a part to play, Finn is a diversity Black person
No, that's not Kathleen Kennedy and Jar Jar saying they're not making star wars for straight white males.
It really is spectacular how they burned all the goodwill of the franchise in this trilogy.
I remember calling my autistic uncle when the Last Jedi came out. Full on room of his house dedicated to Star Wars merchandise autistic, to the point of owning arcade and pinball machines.
Of the Last Jedi, he said "It was like the director had never seen a Star Wars movie before."
Still haven't seen it or Episode 9.
That's not the Phantom Menace
at least we all agree that it's dead
somehow... *sigh* nu wars threads have returned
Seeing John Boyega for the first time in The Force Awakens was the shock of my life.
I was so hyped for the sequel trilogy that I cagily avoided all marketing materials, all trailers, and all commercials. If I walked by a toy aisle at the store and caught a small glimpse of a vehicle or stormtrooper, I'd look away immediately. I wanted to go into the new era of Star Wars with an entirely open mind, as pure as an Amish virgin. On opening night I knew there was a brown-haired female protagonist (that much was hard to avoid, even though I shielded my eyes), but little else. I didn't even know which classic characters were returning.
When Boyega first took off that helmet and revealed himself to the theater, I let out an audible gasp. My entire row of filmgoers looked at me like I was nuts, but I couldn't help myself. There before me was the most Simian creature I'd ever seen in a galaxy far, far away. An intergalactic gorilla with huge flaring Black person nostrils and big Nigerian chieftain lips.
Oftentimes film studios will soften the blow by casting Billy Dee Williams or Will Smith... but not this time. This time you were forced to feast your eyes on a pure-blooded coal black silverback Black person, blown up forty feet high on an IMAX screen.
I looked around, uncomprehendingly, as the rest of the crowd seemed to accept this monstrosity as a regular matter of course. Then it occurred to me that I was the only person who hadn't already seen months' worth of marketing materials.
Little by little, they had been led to accept this by drips and drabs of commercials, trailers, and TV interviews. Their minds had been so softened that they were willing to stare unflinchingly, even giggle and smile at the Black folkhines, as MegaBlack person (missing only a bone in his nose) besmirched the galaxy.
Lots of people debate about the exact moment when Star Wars died. I contend it was when that minstrel-looking sweaty jigaboo removed his helmet and revealed his Lovecraftian face.
Based
This but unironically
based...
Fml this is so true
Your post is why I haven’t been able to leave Cinemaphile. Well done, sir. One of favorite reads ever here and I’ve been here a long time
>I’ve been here a long time
Clearly not if you're reading that copypasta for the first time.
I don’t venture into Cinemaphile often. I actually came in here to see if there was anything about the new love death + robots
What are your homeboards?
Technology history and pol mostly. I’ve seen that pic of Fin and all the memes, but I honestly don’t remember the copy pasta
I'm fricking dead
This place has fricked me up, is that picture shopped?
Nope
the israelites chose the nigest of nigs on purpose
Finn should have been the lead.