the more holes poked into this story the worse it becomes I fear..

the more holes poked into this story the worse it becomes I fear..

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >story
    not a story issue. you could change the dialogue to make it not moronic and the story would be the same

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    at what point in the books is it revealed smeagol was a hobbit? or does that happened inthe hobbit?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Idk p sure in the movie it’s said he’s one of the river folk, not too different from a hobbit. Plus look at him. In the books it might be one of those things Tolkien leaves vague

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hes a hobbit, just one of the other types

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm thinking of the scene at the start of return of the kings, which may not even be in the books.

        either way the woman in the op is after timing. at the start ot the LOTR movies you dont know smeagol was a hobbit, so the narration makes sense.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Who cares about the shitass movies

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tolkien establishes that Sméagol is a hobbit when Gandalf learns the ring is the one ring. He explains it to Frodo (who is like 45 in the books btw)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I distinctly remember in the book it falls smeagold.people.somethobg like "similar to hobbits". Later he established the migration and origin of hobbits and I think he made it clear he was a type of hobbit. Technically hobbits are literally of the race of Men, they're just inbred to be short and stout like the Irish.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There is like 3 different branches of hobbits, they are slightly different. Hobbits from the rivers, hobbits from the forests and hobbits of the mountains. I can't recall the names, but should be easy to research. Smeagle was one of the river hobbits.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He doesn't say that until the appendix, in the book he doesn't have that worked out yet, just says they're kinda similar.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stoors, Fallohides and Harfoots. IIRC Smeagol was a Stoor. Everyone in the Shire were technically Harfoots

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gollum was not a hobbit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He was literally a river hobit

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The ring lured Bilbo to it. Its aware. It constantly tries to get back to Sauron by affecting the mind of its current owner. But Gollum just wanted to keep it, not return it. His selfishness prevented it from returning to its master. So it "chose" to abandon Gollum and entice Bilbo

    That was the point. It was ironic. It passes from one hobbit to another

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ring feels Sauron's growing power.
    >Adioses from gollum intending to get picked up by one of the thousands of orcs living in the cave.
    >Gets picked up by a short land owner who takes it in the opposite direction from where it wanted to go.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    She's so stupid.
    >Ring gets lost after Isildur gets jumped
    >Ring gets found by hobbit-thing Smeagol
    >Ring wants to go home, Smeagol doesn't let it go
    >hangs out with Smeagol in the dark for a few hundred years
    >think about bailing to some orc or goblin but Smeagol keeps killing and eating them
    >finally some other dink shows up, time to dump Smeagol
    >it's ANOTHER fricking hobbit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. What are the chances its first ride in centuries is another of these infuriating little fricks. Even better, who do they choose to carry it next to try and destroy it? ANOTHER FRICKING HOBBIT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The song of Eru is like poetry, it rhymes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >She's so stupid
      wdym? it sounds like you are agreeing with her.
      yes I know all women are stupid, but it seems a dumb thing to open your post with

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Her complaint is disingenuous because she's unable to process information critically. It's the sign of a weak mind, therefore she's stupid.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >complaint
          it's not a complaint. it's a joke.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >hurr durr I was only pretending to be moronic
            Joke or not, disingenuity in social media is often taken too seriously by readers and should be attacked by the learned on sight or else be considered complicit in the spreading of lies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it's ANOTHER fricking hobbit
      Considering that the whole history of the world is supposed to be a song, it's fitting that this rhymes. It's like poetry.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the ring did not intend
    I thought it purposely hitched a ride with Bilbo since it could sense that Sauron was almost ready again? am I remembering this wrong?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It didn't intend to get picked up by another hobbit. It wanted to get picked up by an orc. But beggars can't be choosers, so it went with Bilbo. It must have been seething when he took it all the way back to the Shire

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >when a movie trilogy is so incredibly amazing this is the best nitpicking the haters can come up with

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was still insanely unlikely that a random hobbit would find the ring deep in the middle of a mountain nowhere near the shire tho

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Smeagol wasn't a hobbit. If he had been a hobbit the ring never could have corrupted him quickly enough in the way it did to drive him to kill his friend over it. It would have taken a lot longer to warp a hobbit to that degree. Bilbo had it for decades and was still able to hand it over to Gandalf willingly, with only a small outburst of anger. Smeagol was probably some precursor to humans.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He was a hobbit, there are different types. It corrupted him that quickly because he was mentally fricked up already

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The true plotholes are Gandalf and Galadriel being such huge fricking buttholes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gandalf literally tortured Gollum for information, right? They didn't put that in the movies...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        who is torturing smeagol in the movies then

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The orcs under Saruman?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, Saruman did that. Gandalf just treats everyone like shit and Galadriel doesn't do a single important thing, she just scares Frodo and leaves. Also I remember Elrond ranting to his own daughter
        >If you stay here, even if Aragorn survives this war, and trust me, he won't...sooner or later he'll die, and you'll be alone! Do you want that? Do you want to be alone, surrounded by darkness and misery? Huh? Didn't think so! Come with me, right now! Don't you love me? I'm your father!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I distinctly recall Gandalf sending Aragorn to track Smeagle, and then doing some advanced interrogation on him. It doesn't go into detail but it suggests Gandalf was very...intense.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He gets results

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          would you let go of such a hot b***h, i don't think so.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The river folk were not hobbits though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lowland Scots aren't the same as highland Scots

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're literally hobbits per Tolkien. The river and forest ones are taller than the mountain ones. The harfoots are the manlets of hobbits

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, and that was an unlikely event. What's the problem?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fantasy stories are supposed to be out likely events, chud

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It abandoned Gollum to get away from his hobbit-like nature of never leaving home and found the unlikeliest creature to be in wandering around that cave, another damn hobbit. Tolkien wins.

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