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For me, it's Beethoven
Chopin mogs all
Why didn't Salieri just frick Mozart's wife
because salieri was a profoundly pious man whose only goal in life was to serve god to the best of his abilities, but he feels cursed by god because he doesnt have the talents that such a man should have, and is horrified that such a vulgar and impious man like mozart would have those talents instead. even though he is consumed by the sin of envy, he still controls enough of his willpower to avoid the sin of lust. he hopes that somehow god will forgive him his envy as long as he can avoid the rest
I need a dark fantasy sequel made by fans, or a fan fiction in which Salieri sells his soul to the devil to become as good as Mozart.
And at some point it stops being about Salieri the
and becomes just a dark fantasy series.
>as good as Mozart
>not better
lol you're such a frickin salieri bro
Sounds fricking gay
stupid mexican
>Salieri sells his soul to the devil to become as good as Mozart.
holy based, fund it
nope. salieri got his wish- that’s the entire point. he wanted to be a vessel for Gods music, and what happens at the end? he transcribes lacrimosa. he’s seething that it wasn’t him that will be remembered despite his false piety about being a vessel for a higher power. God gives him what he asks for and he’s too egotistical to be grateful. he didn’t need to frick his wife because he had already humiliated her
his wife is in a coma
He did, didn't you see the movie?
Mom and I watched the director's cut of Amadeus which contains a bawdy scene in which she's made to strip to her bare breasts and offer herself to (the masked, unknown) Salieri. He's sorta considering it but ultimately keeps his vow and dismisses her. Afterward, mom and I agreed that it was best left out (she'd seen theatrical before and didn't remember it). Not only because booba was a bit awkward for us to watch together, but also because it honestly felt out of place besides.
Did you frick after?
I agree but it was also necessary to see her wonderful breasts. The director would have been doing us a disservice if he didn't make her get them out
that was the best scene in the movie
it also angered Salieri that Mozart had such a devoted wife who was ready to frick another man to help Mozart
>W.A.M. biopic
>doesn't play Last Christmas
>>The rest is just the same isn't it
what is this supposed to mean?
It's basically a jingle. Then Salieri gets hit by a train in season 9 and replaced with Ashton Kutcher.
>be salieri
>meet the greatest musical genius of your era
>you know this to be true
>he makes fun of your misunderstanding of isotopes
>persuades a plot to revoke his security clearance
What did he mean by this?
unironically how do you cope with this?
Well, if I were Sallieri I would cope by realizing I was a mere mortal in the presence of a Musical God, a genius the likes of which may never exist again. It would be humbling.
probably take a 2x4 upside mozarts head. we'll see how much of a musical genius you are when you're a braindead drooling vegetable moron eating all your meals through a straw and sitting in your own shitty diaper.
How tf are we gonna enjoy his music then you moron
Become friends until a magician comes to town then you scrawl an M on your forehead and cheap shot him
One reads such posts and what can one say but.. Cinemaphile
Salieri should have realized he was chosen by God as well. Not to be the messiah/jesus of music (Mozart) but to be John the Baptist (the first to recognize the messiah - minus the getting beheaded part).
If Salieri had come to this realization he would have understood he was blessed doubly, both to be the only one with the intelligence to recognize immediately true genius, but also to be tasked with accompanying it, promoting it, growing it, and more importantly surviving it. The burden of talent given to Mozart lead to his death - was Salieri's fate so bad in comparison?
That's why his fate is so tragic, because of the irony. He curses god for forsaking him, meanwhile God gave him a very presitigious job that didn't require getting sacrificed.
Why didnt Saleri just rape Mozart?
That's in the director's cut.
I'm basically Salieri when it comes to writing music but Mozart when it comes to programming. I don't know why I can't be happy with the talent I have, but programming just seems so hollow. I long to be creative.
you're a nobody
nah bro, he said it himself, he's Mozart when it comes to programming, he admitted it right there in his post !
It's funny when people self-report like this. Literally all you know about me is that I post on Cinemaphile, so you just assume they're all exactly like you. You think no one else in the world has talent?
This movie is fun to watch, but it’s preposterous headcanon. Salieri in actuality was a revered composer, and considered far better than Mozart during his lifetime.
People need to understand that what art is popular during the time something was released and what’s popular long after has more to do with proper preservation and capturing cultural zeitgeist, two things that are entirely unpredictable and have ZERO to do with how good someone or something is.
People only parrot how good Shakespeare and Mozart are because that’s what’s in your face and what has essentially been marketed to you. How many of you have ever read work of Shakesepare’s lesser known contemporaries or Mozart’s lesser known contemporaries? Oh, nothing? So then how do you know Shakespeare and Mozart are that good? Aren’t you just parroting what others have said?
>How many of you have ever read work of Shakesepare’s lesser known contemporaries or Mozart’s lesser known contemporaries? Oh, nothing?
What’s funny is that even if people did explore those works they would still think Shakey and Wolfie are better because the bias is so strong at this point. From birth you’re told how genius these guys are. At a subjective art form? They’re not fricking scientists. Shakespeare was a populist playwright who wrote shit to get cheap pops and Mozart for many years was seen as no different than a monkey doing dances.
goto bed Salieri Jr Jr Jr Jr
Salieri in the movie actually loves Mozart’s music, though.
And I like it too. But I wonder how much of that has to do with the fact that I’ve been listening to that shit since I was an infant.
There is nothing subjective about being able to sight-read any musical piece as a toddler. You obviously don't know anything about playing instruments, so shut the frick up, you buffoon.
If you actually listen to Mozart's contemporaries the effect is the opposite, it becomes clear just how revolutionary his music was.
You're a moron. Salieri was considered the more accomplished Composer, but everyone from Moscow to London knew Mozart was the most talented man of his time.
The only reason Salieri was in higher regard was because Mozart was reviled by a lot of people for his lifestyle and behaviour, while Salieri was very much an ideal of his time.
>This movie is fun to watch, but it’s preposterous headcanon. Salieri in actuality was a revered composer, and considered far better than Mozart during his lifetime.
the film shows that though. granted it shows that that's because salieri was manipulating things so that motzart would be snubbed
Mozart was able to sight-read any musical piece he was given when he was only 7 years old. He was simply a prodigy that was able to improvise and improve any musical piece on the go. You are a moron. Mozart's fame wasn't solely built on his rebellious personality.
>Mozart's fame wasn't solely built on his rebellious personality
It kind of was, he's not revered for being a child prodigy but for his revolutionary approach to musical form and to a lesser extent harmony, as well as being an early example of a true independent artist.
His revolutionary music was thanks to his innate talents though so i fail to see what you are arguing against.
was it innate or the fact he was on the piano 16 hours a day as a toddler? he had talent drilled into him. shakespeare is weird because he doesn’t seem to have been from any sort of special circumstances and apparently didn’t even know latin or greek which would put him behind a lot of his contemporaries
You are coping. There are so many people who end up becoming mediocre even when they get shit load of lessons and practice as children. It doesn't really mean anything unless you are gifted.
>There are so many people who end up becoming mediocre even when they get shit load of lessons and practice as children
>shot load of lessons and practice
That's the thing though, very few people actually do this.
>You are coping.
The default Zoomer response to being asked to think critically about something instead of accepting and regurgitating the nonsense you’ve heard other people regurgitate from others. It must be hard being forced to have thoughts these days when you’re literally shamed for not being dumb enough to accept rhetoric that’s repeated ad nauseam by those too dim to be contemplative.
By that logic you are a pseud moron as well since you use a sporadic terminology to come off as intellectual because you are an insecure prick desperately seeking for validation online from some no life nerds on a Vietnamese basket forum.
Touché, Black person. Touché.
What the frick does “sporadic terminology” mean? Did you just use those words without knowing what the frick they mean you illiterate moron? Or are you actually so stupid that you don’t know how to say “you use big words with multiple syllables.” A pretentious twat calling another person a pseud is why Cinemaphile is so hilarious sometimes.
He's saying you pepper your posts with jargon in order to sound smart and technically capable, when in reality you expose yourself as a midwit.
The words your samegayging ass was looking for was “multisyllabic diction.” But of course, you’re actually too much of a moron Zoomer that can only spout buzzwords and doesn’t know that online dictionaries exist. Or maybe you’re Indian.
The samegayging is particularly obvious in this case. Maybe it's his cope.
Zoomers are braindead and learned the world through memes. Like their dumb use of the word cope. Instead of ever providing any rebuttal with substance, they think saying you are coping or cope garder is all they need to say and that somehow shuts down the other side. They treat discussions like video games.
Samegay moron. lol Reddit is more up your alley with those petty remarks.
Yeah no. Also congrats on learning how to use a VPN, Rajeesh. Your surprise more than one person hates how moronic Zoomies are is laughable.
Remember to pull the butt plug out once in a while, gaylord. It turns you into a repulsive individual when it's in you 7/24.
I'm arguing against the notion that his fame is predicated solely on his incredible skill, rather than on his iconoclastic approach to music and for being one of the first somewhat successful independent artists in music.
>“Innate talent”
homie, his dad was the Joe Jackson of his time. Which is why both Mozart and MJ grew up to be emotionally stunted children with warped senses of humor and had other bizarre behaviors. They weren’t magical beings with supernatural gifts. They were fricking chimpanzees that could balance balls on their heads.
People want to fetishize “talent” so much that they blatantly ignore everything it took to achieve that “talent”
are there any examples of extremely talented people who weren’t racking up thousands of hours in their childhood at a skill?
Shakespeare.
Nah, certain abilities are dependent on who we are. You can teach anyone to play music or a certain sport but it doesn't mean you have the intelligence or athletic ability to become a champion chess player or an Olympic racer but to be the best of the best or reach certain levels of creativity it's a rare thing
Except we’re talking about subjective art. Unless you’re talking about something objectively measurable like athletics (which arguably has its own can of worms with PEDs, better forms of training and such) with someone like Michael Phelps or the other MJ, you don’t have a leg to stand on
people also forget that salieri would end up mentoring a lot of great composers such as beethoven
That was my point, moron. lol Nice self own reinterpreting what i have already stated.