Actually (just) finished watching it about 3 minutes ago. Thought it was okay, missed the start but apparently that's the best part so... Damn. Rest of the movie felt slow or massive build up for nothing to happen. For example; the big bad poison created by the big bad witch at the big bad island that requires a big bad gun that just knocks Red unconscious. That's it. A cast of characters spent 70% of the movie toting this awesome weapon that does just about nothing. On that topic there's MASSIVE chunks of the incredibly short runtime where again, nothing bloody happens. Characters sitting around, talking about the war and historical inaccuracies or fishing or repairing their dingy wee boat. It's a damn shame because pirate media is all about adventure. Exploring exotic islands, finding cool ancient treasures, meeting with locals is all part of it, but it's nowhere to be found in this movie. Hell, even an exploration scene where the 2 protags (I forgot their names since they barely ever say them) find some ancient war ruins on the island and note of the aforementioned historical inaccuracies would've benefited FAR better then them sitting in the conch shell just talking.
Also the messages are sorta fricked. "monsters aren't bad just misunderstood", sure Red is an exception but what about crab-gay in OP's pic? Dude's just violent for no reason then gets BTFO'd. And what about the whole "history is fake" deal. Movie makes a big scene of it at the end but we never find out the "why". Why 'did' they lie about parts of the war? Why 'did' they want the beasts dead? It's just never explained. Overall very 4/10, slightly below average because it's average but forgettable.
> pirate media is all about adventure. Exploring exotic islands, finding cool ancient treasures, meeting with locals is all part of it
Nothing personal against you in particular, but I’m getting a little sick of anons mistaking the Inevitable for pirates when they are clearly more like whalers. There’s a few pirating parallels to be found, like the royals essentially recruiting them to fight a war and then just suddenly dumping them when they’re done. But functionally the sea beast hunt is really a lot more like a whaling voyage than a pirate movie, just without the part where they go home with oil. And whalers don’t dig treasure or linger in ports, they harvest whales and that’s exciting enough. >a scene where the 2 protags find some ancient war ruins on the island and note of the aforementioned historical inaccuracies would've benefited
You’re right about this, though. The conspiracy that history is wrong has almost no evidential backing and is built mostly in Maisie’s head, and a little ruins exploring would be so much better.
> we never find out the "why"
This is how I felt immediately after the first time I watched the movie. But after watching it again with a friend and squinting real hard to find it, I think they sorta imply that sea beast territory had been closing off potential trading and shipping routes, and that killing sea beasts opened those routes and ushered in a new era of prosperity for the kingdom. They really do not do a good job of making that at all clear, though, and it’s easy to miss, if it’s even really supposed to be much of a thing at all.
> what about crab-gay in OP's pic? Dude's just violent for no reason
It’s just a big dumb brainless crab. Literally all it does is pick up things within its reach and eats them, as all crabs do. Jacob was just unlucky that it happened to pick up his boat.
Hey I’m just recognizing a historical truth. When a 12 year old or thereabouts wayward orphan says to a 20 something guy that she wants to live on a farm and “make a family” with him in pre 20th century not-britain, that means he’s gonna take her in for a few years as a ward, and then marry her.
>historical truth >marriage >living on a farm >interracial >orphan girl literally no-one cares about and that's before considering she's black in a white country
The only historical truth is that if the sailor has no good morals, she'll be raped and discarded.
Your trad romanticism never happened.
I sort of wish there was an edit that cuts out basically everything about Maisie and Jacob’s story after the part where Red swallows them. Just keep it a high seas whaling adventure with cool kaiju fights and cut out the How to Train Your Dragon half.
>sees history books are made by the kingdom >just randomly decides that history is a lie and that everything they knew was wrong.
Did I miss something? Like I know the claim isn't out of the realm of possibility but she has no proof for her claims and everyone just instantly believes her
"My source is that the royal insignia is on all the books!"
Well yes, the only printing press in the country is located here where it's safe. Plus our libraries have dozens of books made by independent authors, did you care to look?
"I.... Well I..."
Sargent.
"Yes ma'am?"
Turn the oceans Red.
I appreciate characters that have names that don’t perfectly suit them. It adds a touch of realism. Also I think Crow may have been chosen because it’s really easy to rhyme in a sea shanty.
funny that they avoiding to show good images of the little girl.
just saw two on the official page while everyone else had a lot more .
I wonder what they fear .... 😛
The books are suspicious, but not for the reasons Maisie thinks. >the story books generally give the impression of being very old and well read >but the Inevitable crew are all principle figures, including Jacob, who isn’t THAT old >so the book about the Inevitable and Jacob’s adventures would have to have been published relatively recently >the illustrations and portraiture for Sara Sharpe and Jacob are also dead on accurate >but Jacob has never even read the book, and doesn’t know the author wrote them as saying “yarr” all the time, so it seems like he wouldn’t have posed for the artist
the suspicion doesn't even make sense, the kings own almost everything, even the orphanage where she lived, obviously the books will have the logo of the kingdom.
>Maisie at the end talking about how she gets to live great life. >b***h probably triggered a reign of terror and heads are being chopped left and right
But it's probably what the californians who wrote this were going for.
The scene with the witch lady didn’t make sense, but I do still commend them for putting it in anyway. You can tell it could’ve easily been a deleted scene because they didn’t make it fit right, but somebody on crew put a lot of passion into that particular scene, and they needed to pad runtime.
Still a better use of time then having Maisie and Jacob sit in a conch and argue politics.
I've been thinking about that scene and yeah, though it's needed to explain how the crew get their hands on ultima weapon, it REALLY should've been written differently. I would've had totally-not-calypso offer them tons of different weapons first while trying to hide the mega buster. only for her to give in and say the weapon was scavenged from the old war except the arrow/ammo is missing then had the black women make note of the royal engravings on it. Cut to team Jacob and they're scrounging around some island ruins, Macy makes more reference to historical inaccuracies while Jacob finds a cool spear. That spear being the ammo needed. I think you can imagine where this is going, sure it's cliche but christ anything but more talking talking talking uh
And let's not forget that they never explain what the price of the witch was. >since the witch says the price is high, I guess they have to have sex with her.
The witch said it would cost him "everything". Since killing sea beasts is everything to him, the sequence of events leading up to the end finalizes the war on sea beasts meaning his "everything" is now gone. At least, that's the message I got from it.
Watched it yesterday. It had an awesome beginning with the hunters working and then facing the royalty who wants to defund them. Also, the relationship between Ahab and Ismael is quite good and feels real.
HOWEVER everything crumbles to dust after Meisje comes out of that fricking barrel. Suddenly, she does no longer care about living a great life and dying a great death and decides to cut the fricking rope, and then, OUT OF NO FRICKING WHERE becomes sympathetic for the red monster, despite her being an orphan because of the fricking monsters.
Things could have been like this: >the monster bites the rope and it breaks >Meisje and Ismael get swallowed by the monster when they try to get on board again >they reach the island and find out that there are actual peaceful monsters >they start to have their doubts about the war, because a large part of the monsters are not hostile per-se >They follow the monster back to Rum’s Island >Ahab captures the monster alive and reunited with the pair >The king and queen refuse to pay Ahab and offer him an officer post instead, telling him that the humans were the ones who attacked first >Ahab understands that everything he believed in was a lie and decides to free the monster out of spite >The monster wreacks havoc and the royals GTFO >peace is achieved at last
There. I’ve improved the film.
In the cut we got, I’m not even sure the King and Queen know the truth. They say that things have been going this way for like one hundred years, so it’s within the realm of possibility that their predecessors actually started this shit and didn’t clue them in.
I'll get back to you when I see it
Actually (just) finished watching it about 3 minutes ago. Thought it was okay, missed the start but apparently that's the best part so... Damn. Rest of the movie felt slow or massive build up for nothing to happen. For example; the big bad poison created by the big bad witch at the big bad island that requires a big bad gun that just knocks Red unconscious. That's it. A cast of characters spent 70% of the movie toting this awesome weapon that does just about nothing. On that topic there's MASSIVE chunks of the incredibly short runtime where again, nothing bloody happens. Characters sitting around, talking about the war and historical inaccuracies or fishing or repairing their dingy wee boat. It's a damn shame because pirate media is all about adventure. Exploring exotic islands, finding cool ancient treasures, meeting with locals is all part of it, but it's nowhere to be found in this movie. Hell, even an exploration scene where the 2 protags (I forgot their names since they barely ever say them) find some ancient war ruins on the island and note of the aforementioned historical inaccuracies would've benefited FAR better then them sitting in the conch shell just talking.
Also the messages are sorta fricked. "monsters aren't bad just misunderstood", sure Red is an exception but what about crab-gay in OP's pic? Dude's just violent for no reason then gets BTFO'd. And what about the whole "history is fake" deal. Movie makes a big scene of it at the end but we never find out the "why". Why 'did' they lie about parts of the war? Why 'did' they want the beasts dead? It's just never explained. Overall very 4/10, slightly below average because it's average but forgettable.
> pirate media is all about adventure. Exploring exotic islands, finding cool ancient treasures, meeting with locals is all part of it
Nothing personal against you in particular, but I’m getting a little sick of anons mistaking the Inevitable for pirates when they are clearly more like whalers. There’s a few pirating parallels to be found, like the royals essentially recruiting them to fight a war and then just suddenly dumping them when they’re done. But functionally the sea beast hunt is really a lot more like a whaling voyage than a pirate movie, just without the part where they go home with oil. And whalers don’t dig treasure or linger in ports, they harvest whales and that’s exciting enough.
>a scene where the 2 protags find some ancient war ruins on the island and note of the aforementioned historical inaccuracies would've benefited
You’re right about this, though. The conspiracy that history is wrong has almost no evidential backing and is built mostly in Maisie’s head, and a little ruins exploring would be so much better.
> we never find out the "why"
This is how I felt immediately after the first time I watched the movie. But after watching it again with a friend and squinting real hard to find it, I think they sorta imply that sea beast territory had been closing off potential trading and shipping routes, and that killing sea beasts opened those routes and ushered in a new era of prosperity for the kingdom. They really do not do a good job of making that at all clear, though, and it’s easy to miss, if it’s even really supposed to be much of a thing at all.
> what about crab-gay in OP's pic? Dude's just violent for no reason
It’s just a big dumb brainless crab. Literally all it does is pick up things within its reach and eats them, as all crabs do. Jacob was just unlucky that it happened to pick up his boat.
Shocked it's getting such good reviews. It's just your standard Netflix animated film; passably animated with a weak script.
>Shocked it's getting such good reviews
Really?
Yes, usually reviewers don't like anything that isn't made by Disney.
I honestly think the standard Netflix animated film generally surpasses the standard theatrically released major animated studio film at this point.
Thoughts on these two?
Cute father and daughter.
>Colonize the e-girl
Anon. That's literally his kid.
He probably married her after a couple years.
You need to be behind bars
Hey I’m just recognizing a historical truth. When a 12 year old or thereabouts wayward orphan says to a 20 something guy that she wants to live on a farm and “make a family” with him in pre 20th century not-britain, that means he’s gonna take her in for a few years as a ward, and then marry her.
>historical truth
>marriage
>living on a farm
>interracial
>orphan girl literally no-one cares about and that's before considering she's black in a white country
The only historical truth is that if the sailor has no good morals, she'll be raped and discarded.
Your trad romanticism never happened.
girl literally no-one cares about
The guy did care, though. Even changed his entire way of life for her.
I sort of wish there was an edit that cuts out basically everything about Maisie and Jacob’s story after the part where Red swallows them. Just keep it a high seas whaling adventure with cool kaiju fights and cut out the How to Train Your Dragon half.
>sees history books are made by the kingdom
>just randomly decides that history is a lie and that everything they knew was wrong.
Did I miss something? Like I know the claim isn't out of the realm of possibility but she has no proof for her claims and everyone just instantly believes her
"My source is that the royal insignia is on all the books!"
Well yes, the only printing press in the country is located here where it's safe. Plus our libraries have dozens of books made by independent authors, did you care to look?
"I.... Well I..."
Sargent.
"Yes ma'am?"
Turn the oceans Red.
>Did I miss something?
No. They forgot the movie was supposed to have a story so they desperately shoved it all in the ending.
How long before there is art of Jacob fricking Red?
I thought Captain Crow looks daddy as frick
I love Jared Harris but I thought his performance was kinda bad in this. Phoned in.
>crow
>beak nose
>literally nothing else
A job half done is rather off putting.
I appreciate characters that have names that don’t perfectly suit them. It adds a touch of realism. Also I think Crow may have been chosen because it’s really easy to rhyme in a sea shanty.
funny that they avoiding to show good images of the little girl.
just saw two on the official page while everyone else had a lot more .
I wonder what they fear .... 😛
these painted on clothes are a mockery
Ugly
The books are suspicious, but not for the reasons Maisie thinks.
>the story books generally give the impression of being very old and well read
>but the Inevitable crew are all principle figures, including Jacob, who isn’t THAT old
>so the book about the Inevitable and Jacob’s adventures would have to have been published relatively recently
>the illustrations and portraiture for Sara Sharpe and Jacob are also dead on accurate
>but Jacob has never even read the book, and doesn’t know the author wrote them as saying “yarr” all the time, so it seems like he wouldn’t have posed for the artist
the suspicion doesn't even make sense, the kings own almost everything, even the orphanage where she lived, obviously the books will have the logo of the kingdom.
But anon, monarchy bad.
>Maisie at the end talking about how she gets to live great life.
>b***h probably triggered a reign of terror and heads are being chopped left and right
But it's probably what the californians who wrote this were going for.
A very American thing, yes.
The scene with the witch lady didn’t make sense, but I do still commend them for putting it in anyway. You can tell it could’ve easily been a deleted scene because they didn’t make it fit right, but somebody on crew put a lot of passion into that particular scene, and they needed to pad runtime.
Still a better use of time then having Maisie and Jacob sit in a conch and argue politics.
I've been thinking about that scene and yeah, though it's needed to explain how the crew get their hands on ultima weapon, it REALLY should've been written differently. I would've had totally-not-calypso offer them tons of different weapons first while trying to hide the mega buster. only for her to give in and say the weapon was scavenged from the old war except the arrow/ammo is missing then had the black women make note of the royal engravings on it. Cut to team Jacob and they're scrounging around some island ruins, Macy makes more reference to historical inaccuracies while Jacob finds a cool spear. That spear being the ammo needed. I think you can imagine where this is going, sure it's cliche but christ anything but more talking talking talking uh
And let's not forget that they never explain what the price of the witch was.
>since the witch says the price is high, I guess they have to have sex with her.
The witch said it would cost him "everything". Since killing sea beasts is everything to him, the sequence of events leading up to the end finalizes the war on sea beasts meaning his "everything" is now gone. At least, that's the message I got from it.
And Jacob?
Jacob is off doing his own thing. No time for daddy anymore.
Had a strong start but felt like it was rushing to the end around the mid way point
Watched it yesterday. It had an awesome beginning with the hunters working and then facing the royalty who wants to defund them. Also, the relationship between Ahab and Ismael is quite good and feels real.
HOWEVER everything crumbles to dust after Meisje comes out of that fricking barrel. Suddenly, she does no longer care about living a great life and dying a great death and decides to cut the fricking rope, and then, OUT OF NO FRICKING WHERE becomes sympathetic for the red monster, despite her being an orphan because of the fricking monsters.
Things could have been like this:
>the monster bites the rope and it breaks
>Meisje and Ismael get swallowed by the monster when they try to get on board again
>they reach the island and find out that there are actual peaceful monsters
>they start to have their doubts about the war, because a large part of the monsters are not hostile per-se
>They follow the monster back to Rum’s Island
>Ahab captures the monster alive and reunited with the pair
>The king and queen refuse to pay Ahab and offer him an officer post instead, telling him that the humans were the ones who attacked first
>Ahab understands that everything he believed in was a lie and decides to free the monster out of spite
>The monster wreacks havoc and the royals GTFO
>peace is achieved at last
There. I’ve improved the film.
>The king and queen [tell] him that the humans were the ones who attacked first
But… why would they do that?
This.
In the cut we got, I’m not even sure the King and Queen know the truth. They say that things have been going this way for like one hundred years, so it’s within the realm of possibility that their predecessors actually started this shit and didn’t clue them in.
Why is Red so fat?
She eats a lot of eyeballs.
Eating people isn't a healthy diet.
Any art of Red?