I understand that this felt like an extremely triumphant moment, but as of late, I can't help but feel that the story gets it wrong in the end.
Of course, the director is anti-Christian, so Man rejecting Eden and God's plan is supposed to be a good thing. In reality, it is a liberation so painful that it kills the spirit.
But in a more literal sense, he is trading a near perfect life for one where statistically most people have to wageslave everyday just to go home to an empty room or a family on the verge of falling apart. And that is just if you are lucky enough to be born in a first world country. The people in Truman's "fake" world, cared more about Truman than most people could ever get in 100 lifetimes. The freedom to suffer is not some valuable thing that is worth sacrificing a near paradise for.
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He wasn't leaving Eden, he was leaving Saturn/elite/Luciferian "paradise" and their control for a world of his own decision. People will compare this with gnosticism and "peeking beyond the veil" but the director was not benevolent and made a spectacle of Truman's suffering. Only a mimicry of the garden. Those people didn't care for him, he was their charge. Like Daemons over principalities and powers. The woman cared for him. She wanted his freedom. She was created by God and not some design of the director. Like an angel even. Truman made the right choice, leaving the antichrist's attempt at paradise. Even if the director seemed sad he was leaving, it was surely only because what he had attempted to create had withered. Yet the world Truman would leave for was eternal. Even beyond the Earth.
Anon I don't think OP is ready for what you're putting down.
Seems so, thanks for acknowledging my reply at least before archive
I like your creativity and in a sense, I do think you have a point. The was a level of fakeness to the world of Truman that was a bit uncanny. Arguably, one could say this is the result of man/whatever schizo demon you are attributing this to trying to recreate God's world and failing. I just don't think that is what the author intended.
Could be, it is just a story after all. Only my interpretation. The whole movie just seemed like an sphere within a sphere. An imitation of the cradle man was meant to reach adolescence through.
Reminiscent of the Luciferian position on Prometheus and being given this wisdom through the hands of a being they consider god like. Attributing kindness to their ultimate beguilement.
This is how I always interpreted it, it has shocked me to see how many people think that Ed Harris is a literal depiction of God when the film goes out of its way to portray him as delusional and malign, and that his powers are finite at every turn.
Let's even leave aside the fact that the director is incredibly based, goes out of his way to defend Mel Gibson, and went on to make Master and Commander. We're not talking about Ricky Gervais here.
And to add to this, doesn't the Bible claim that the antichrist will sit in the Temple of God and claim to be God himself? That was how I interpreted all the surface-level Christian symbols, that were always placed on things that would have been under Ed Harris's control and presumably under his direction.
Well said, we seem to have an eye for the same israeliteel here. Wrapped up neatly in a bow is an allegory for the Antichrist. The artificial. The Promethean lie of a paradise offered in exchange for their obedience. HPRW8S
religious schizobabble language. but accurate
Should I seek out a psychiatrist if what you wrote makes complete sense to me?
Nah, if you don't see the religious value of it, you should see the structural value. Never trust a man-made system selling you paradise and exchange for your freedom and loyalty. I don't care what they provide for you, It's not out of benevolence. It's for control. A golden decorated cage. Don't let the world become like an idealized CCP occupied China.
Rather: reality itself is the ultimate fabrication, the film ends when he leaves since he, just like you, cannot "go" anywhere else. One can only die.
This is an interesting take, but your value system is wrong on multiple registers. The film shares in common with The Matrix the idea that the people trapped in the thing intuitively understand that the thing they're in isn't real, and so they start going crazy. They start to understand that they have to get out of it, no matter what. This may slightly explain the ennui attributed here to Office Space and Fight Club. Things were just so good and comfortable during peak human civilizational achievement (1999, truly) that people were bored out of their minds and forgot real hardship.
Also, since you seem to defend religious beliefs in some way, it would seem that you ought to have some contempt for the obvious Ed Harris man-playing-at-being-god thing, which is one of the major themes, but you elide this to prize comfort above freedom, like a woman.
What the character really should have done is to unleash a tirade of vulgar, base, childish profanity at his false god. But he doesn't do this, because he's been conditioned to be telegenic. And so he does the wrong thing that he's been conditioned to do, and makes a graceful exit. He ought to have scorned the bulk of humanity right then and there.
>The film shares in common with The Matrix the idea that the people trapped in the thing intuitively understand that the thing they're in isn't real, and so they start going crazy. They start to understand that they have to get out of it, no matter what. This may slightly explain the ennui attributed here to Office Space and Fight Club. Things were just so good and comfortable during peak human civilizational achievement (1999, truly) that people were bored out of their minds and forgot real hardship.
Then that is ultimately damning of the nature of humanity. We fight for the right to toil and feel misery, because perfection causes misery anyway. Endless war, destruction, and oppression because we have been evolved to always strive and put ourselves higher than other people. Nothing short of transhumanism or genetic engineering (i.e. changing human nature) will save us.
>Also, since you seem to defend religious beliefs in some way, it would seem that you ought to have some contempt for the obvious Ed Harris man-playing-at-being-god thing, which is one of the major themes, but you elide this to prize comfort above freedom, like a woman.
In that sense, I am analyzing it as an allegory. Ed Harris is 100% supposed to represent the Christian God, (or at least the idea of him if you see him as fictional), in our own life.
Comparing the desire of comfort above freedom to womanhood is quite foolish as well. What is heaven but complete comfort within God's controlled paradise? Do you think you will have the freedom to sin in heaven?
Actually I wanted to disagree with you, but on the first reply I agree that humans are fundamentally broken, especially along the materialistic lines that you have suggested.
Basically, the will to god itself is a fundamental psychological error, an evolutionary necessary cope. You are right, here, to identify nature itself as the problem. But then you go all wrong in the last bit. The point is to re-engineer humans to be inhuman, to have no need of false gods,
For your last graph, I don't think that you're an honest christian, or theist, but really just playing with ideas. You don't speak their language. heaven and "being good" aren't usually described in terms of comfort. Also, your retort that women don't value comfort above freedom is just plain false, and bordering on troll territory. At any rate, thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Your value system is fundamentally broken, and you have the mentality of a sheep. Freedom and dignity are wortth dying for. Without them, you are not truly alive; you're simply a slave, a husk that serves a master, being parasitized all the way down to your very soul. Everything in you serves another, from your cellular energy to your very thoughts.
You're the kind of person who reads Brave New World and thinks it's about a utopian paradise. However, we have a divine spark in us that makes us seek autonomy and freedom - a soul that gives us agency and the desire to enact our will upon the world. No creature can be truly happy in a technocratic dystopia. It is, as another anon aptly stated, a golden cage. It has the illusion of beauty and comfort, but it cannot satisfy any creature with a sense of dignity.
Heaven is a place on Earth. It exists in the mind, when the soul is free of burdens like bitterness and hatred. It has nothing to do with comfort. Comfort enabled by tyranny is a slow death and a subservience to the will of another. Ultimately, you're advocating willing slavery to other human beings, which is utterly insane.
>What the character really should have done is to unleash a tirade of vulgar, base, childish profanity at his false god. But he doesn't do this, because he's been conditioned to be telegenic. And so he does the wrong thing that he's been conditioned to do, and makes a graceful exit. He ought to have scorned the bulk of humanity right then and there.
lol
I would choose FREEDOM over a Perfect Life any day! What's the point of a perfect life if it's FAKE?
>cared more about Truman than most people could ever get in 100 lifetimes
Anon when all is said and done and the "show" ends a character literally remarks "alright... wonder what else is one" without a second thought or lingering bit of sentimentality.
Still seems better than what the overwhelmingly majority of people receive in this life.
Choice
He would not be a wage slave. He would be a billionaire based on the inevitable lawsuits he will file for what happened
It's a society that allowed a corporation to own a baby. I doubt Truman would win a lawsuit.
I just saw this movie again, the ending always makes me cry
He isn't, he's trading a cage for the world, he isn't a wageslave, he's a worldwide celebrity
>thread with thoughtful, quite well written replies and polite vibe
what's going on here
Love him
The movie is actually about Truman trying to escape the burden of life, entering the door represented Truman's death